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Muscles 12/23/18 3:21:56 PM #1:	You can think it's crazy to believe in magic but a lot of people believe in smaller forms of magic such are curses/blessings or karma for example Even if you think it isn't real now do you think it could have before? Maybe we ran out of it like a natural resource or lost the connection to it because it was tied to a specific language/chant/spell that was lost to time It just seems weird that all cultures believe in some form of magic (even as simple as superstition) and get to that point independently --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:914603515] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>You can think it's crazy to believe in magic but a lot of people believe in smaller forms of magic such are curses/blessings or karma for example Even if you think it isn't real now do you think it could have before? Maybe we ran out of it like a natural resource or lost the connection to it because it was tied to a specific language/chant/spell that was lost to time It just seems weird that all cultures believe in some form of magic (even as simple as superstition) and get to that point independently</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StoneRevolver 12/23/18 3:23:10 PM #2:	"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --- Ask me for my GT or PSN if you like. <cite>StoneRevolver posted [p:914603574] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JOExHIGASHI 12/23/18 3:23:51 PM #3:	no --- Next Xbox will be named Xbox1 2 <cite>JOExHIGASHI posted [p:914603604] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 12/23/18 3:24:40 PM #4:	Yes. --- I'd rather die helping others survive than be all alone, UNSCATHED, after all others have fallen -DEC <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:914603660] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>Yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rogerskg1979 12/23/18 3:30:24 PM #5:	StoneRevolver posted... "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." This. Also, "magic is just science we don't yet understand." If you would take an automobile or a smartphone back to the year 1000 AD, they would think it is magic because they wouldn't be able to understand it. Magic doesn't exist period. What ancient people called magic was just simply a lack of understanding of the science around them. <cite>rogerskg1979 posted [p:914603938] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote>"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."</quote> This. Also, "magic is just science we don't yet understand." If you would take an automobile or a smartphone back to the year 1000 AD, they would think it is magic because they wouldn't be able to understand it. Magic doesn't exist period. What ancient people called magic was just simply a lack of understanding of the science around them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 12/23/18 3:34:00 PM #6:	Magic is making the impossible happen. That's occurring constantly. --- I'd rather die helping others survive than be all alone, UNSCATHED, after all others have fallen -DEC <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:914604121] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>Magic is making the impossible happen. That's occurring constantly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 12/23/18 3:37:46 PM #7:	rogerskg1979 posted... StoneRevolver posted... "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." This. Also, "magic is just science we don't yet understand." If you would take an automobile or a smartphone back to the year 1000 AD, they would think it is magic because they wouldn't be able to understand it. Magic doesn't exist period. What ancient people called magic was just simply a lack of understanding of the science around them. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:914604300] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote>"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."</quote> This. Also, "magic is just science we don't yet understand." If you would take an automobile or a smartphone back to the year 1000 AD, they would think it is magic because they wouldn't be able to understand it. Magic doesn't exist period. What ancient people called magic was just simply a lack of understanding of the science around them.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AnnoyedCops 12/23/18 3:38:34 PM #8:	No <cite>AnnoyedCops posted [p:914604331] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>No</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 12/23/18 3:42:18 PM #9:	rogerskg1979 posted... StoneRevolver posted... "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." This. Also, "magic is just science we don't yet understand." If you would take an automobile or a smartphone back to the year 1000 AD, they would think it is magic because they wouldn't be able to understand it. Magic doesn't exist period. What ancient people called magic was just simply a lack of understanding of the science around them. That does work sometimes, but there's a difference between a shaman/witch doctor type things and something you would see out of of a fantasy book, there's no amount of technology that would be able to replace real magic (real magic being what you would see in LotR or traditional mythologies) --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:914604505] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote>"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."</quote> This. Also, "magic is just science we don't yet understand." If you would take an automobile or a smartphone back to the year 1000 AD, they would think it is magic because they wouldn't be able to understand it. Magic doesn't exist period. What ancient people called magic was just simply a lack of understanding of the science around them.</quote> That does work sometimes, but there's a difference between a shaman/witch doctor type things and something you would see out of of a fantasy book, there's no amount of technology that would be able to replace real magic (real magic being what you would see in LotR or traditional mythologies)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chewster 12/23/18 3:44:38 PM #11:	I think that believing magic "used to" exist might actually be even dumber than believing it exists now. Thinking of it like a finite resource is ascribing a semblance of an idea that has some actual basis in reality. At least people who still believe in it fully know to go all in on rejecting the science <cite>Chewster posted [p:914604597] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>I think that believing magic "used to" exist might actually be even dumber than believing it exists now. Thinking of it like a finite resource is ascribing a semblance of an idea that has some actual basis in reality. At least people who still believe in it fully know to go all in on rejecting the science</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 12/23/18 3:45:29 PM #12:	Gimps in action: https://io9.gizmodo.com/heres-what-happened-when-a-rainmaker-ended-up-in-court-1680338361 --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:914604648] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>Gimps in action: https://io9.gizmodo.com/heres-what-happened-when-a-rainmaker-ended-up-in-court-1680338361</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rogerskg1979 12/23/18 3:45:43 PM #13:	Muscles posted... Maybe we ran out of it like a natural resource or lost the connection to it because it was tied to a specific language/chant/spell that was lost to time Muscles posted... That does work sometimes, but there's a difference between a shaman/witch doctor type things and something you would see out of of a fantasy book, there's no amount of technology that would be able to replace real magic (real magic being what you would see in LotR or traditional mythologies) You have played too many RPGs and can no longer tell the difference between reality and fantasy. Ancient civilizations were not chanting for Fireballs and Magic Missiles and drinking mana potions when they ran out of MP. You do know that orcs, goblins, trolls, and dragons are not real too, right? They never existed. <cite>rogerskg1979 posted [p:914604663] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muscles posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe we ran out of it like a natural resource or lost the connection to it because it was tied to a specific language/chant/spell that was lost to time</quote> <cite>Muscles posted...</cite> <quote>That does work sometimes, but there's a difference between a shaman/witch doctor type things and something you would see out of of a fantasy book, there's no amount of technology that would be able to replace real magic (real magic being what you would see in LotR or traditional mythologies)</quote> You have played too many RPGs and can no longer tell the difference between reality and fantasy. Ancient civilizations were not chanting for Fireballs and Magic Missiles and drinking mana potions when they ran out of MP. You do know that orcs, goblins, trolls, and dragons are not real too, right? They never existed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StoneRevolver 12/23/18 3:47:58 PM #14:	Idk, really. Anything is possible. Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants. I highly doubt that's the only case of something like that. Especially considering all the stuff that's extinct that we'll likely never know of. I do believe most cases of 'magic' do probably have some sort of real explanation. --- Ask me for my GT or PSN if you like. <cite>StoneRevolver posted [p:914604759] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>Idk, really. Anything is possible. Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants. I highly doubt that's the only case of something like that. Especially considering all the stuff that's extinct that we'll likely never know of. I do believe most cases of 'magic' do probably have some sort of real explanation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rogerskg1979 12/23/18 3:52:43 PM #15:	StoneRevolver posted... Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants. You do know that the voodoo doll thing with the pins and needles is a product of Hollywood/pop culture and not an actual real thing, right? Shamans, witch doctors, and the like never used "real magic." The so-called "magical" chemicals they use would just make a person high and experience hallucinations and stuff. It was just a drug, no different than modern drugs like crack and marijuana and stuff like that. Any so-called healing they could produce was just the placebo effect. <cite>rogerskg1979 posted [p:914605001] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote>Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants.</quote> You do know that the voodoo doll thing with the pins and needles is a product of Hollywood/pop culture and not an actual real thing, right? Shamans, witch doctors, and the like never used "real magic." The so-called "magical" chemicals they use would just make a person high and experience hallucinations and stuff. It was just a drug, no different than modern drugs like crack and marijuana and stuff like that. Any so-called healing they could produce was just the placebo effect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
minervo 12/23/18 4:00:14 PM #16:	Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again. --- "how hard is it for people to understand that not everything you read will be something you agree with?" - Awesome <cite>minervo posted [p:914605337] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 12/23/18 4:01:28 PM #17:	minervo posted... Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again. [citation needed] --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:914605400] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote>Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again.</quote> [citation needed]</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rogerskg1979 12/23/18 4:06:28 PM #18:	Lokarin posted... minervo posted... Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again. [citation needed] The Holy Bible of Tolkien <cite>rogerskg1979 posted [p:914605638] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote>Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again.</quote> [citation needed]</quote> The Holy Bible of Tolkien</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
minervo 12/23/18 4:07:08 PM #19:	Lokarin posted... minervo posted... Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again. [citation needed] Read the Bible. --- "how hard is it for people to understand that not everything you read will be something you agree with?" - Awesome <cite>minervo posted [p:914605668] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote>Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again.</quote> [citation needed]</quote> Read the Bible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StoneRevolver 12/23/18 4:07:54 PM #20:	rogerskg1979 posted... StoneRevolver posted... Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants. You do know that the voodoo doll thing with the pins and needles is a product of Hollywood/pop culture and not an actual real thing, right? Shamans, witch doctors, and the like never used "real magic." The so-called "magical" chemicals they use would just make a person high and experience hallucinations and stuff. It was just a drug, no different than modern drugs like crack and marijuana and stuff like that. Any so-called healing they could produce was just the placebo effect. There's a documentary and some interviews on a guy whose family thought he was dead but he was kept as a slave by someone who kept him in a trance for years. It's not magic, no, but to say there isn't anything to it is denying some truth. Even in things that sound overblown and ridiculous there is often a kernel of truth somewhere. --- Ask me for my GT or PSN if you like. <cite>StoneRevolver posted [p:914605704] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote>Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants.</quote> You do know that the voodoo doll thing with the pins and needles is a product of Hollywood/pop culture and not an actual real thing, right? Shamans, witch doctors, and the like never used "real magic." The so-called "magical" chemicals they use would just make a person high and experience hallucinations and stuff. It was just a drug, no different than modern drugs like crack and marijuana and stuff like that. Any so-called healing they could produce was just the placebo effect.</quote> There's a documentary and some interviews on a guy whose family thought he was dead but he was kept as a slave by someone who kept him in a trance for years. It's not magic, no, but to say there isn't anything to it is denying some truth. Even in things that sound overblown and ridiculous there is often a kernel of truth somewhere.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 12/23/18 4:11:38 PM #21:	I can, I don't personally believe in magic, but i've been reading LotR and the way magic fades after the war of the ring and the fact Tolkien said it took place 6000 years before his time makes it sound like it takes place in early history And many mythologies that use magic also imply that idea, obviously it's all fiction, but it's just something to think about and dismiss as fiction --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:914605880] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>I can, I don't personally believe in magic, but i've been reading LotR and the way magic fades after the war of the ring and the fact Tolkien said it took place 6000 years before his time makes it sound like it takes place in early history And many mythologies that use magic also imply that idea, obviously it's all fiction, but it's just something to think about and dismiss as fiction</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 12/23/18 4:13:47 PM #22:	minervo posted... Read the Bible. The only thing true in the Bible is that POSSIBLY sheep and ox exist. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:914605998] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote>Read the Bible.</quote> The only thing true in the Bible is that POSSIBLY sheep and ox exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rogerskg1979 12/23/18 4:15:01 PM #23:	StoneRevolver posted... rogerskg1979 posted... StoneRevolver posted... Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants. You do know that the voodoo doll thing with the pins and needles is a product of Hollywood/pop culture and not an actual real thing, right? Shamans, witch doctors, and the like never used "real magic." The so-called "magical" chemicals they use would just make a person high and experience hallucinations and stuff. It was just a drug, no different than modern drugs like crack and marijuana and stuff like that. Any so-called healing they could produce was just the placebo effect. There's a documentary and some interviews on a guy whose family thought he was dead but he was kept as a slave by someone who kept him in a trance for years. It's not magic, no, but to say there isn't anything to it is denying some truth. Even in things that sound overblown and ridiculous there is often a kernel of truth somewhere. Source for those interviews and documentary? There are plenty of drugs that can induce a trance-like state, and drugs can even put you in a coma. That doesn't mean there is anything magical about it. Using drugs to keep someone in a trance-like state for years is completely believable. Using magic and spells to do that same thing is 100% nonsense. <cite>rogerskg1979 posted [p:914606067] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote>Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants.</quote> You do know that the voodoo doll thing with the pins and needles is a product of Hollywood/pop culture and not an actual real thing, right? Shamans, witch doctors, and the like never used "real magic." The so-called "magical" chemicals they use would just make a person high and experience hallucinations and stuff. It was just a drug, no different than modern drugs like crack and marijuana and stuff like that. Any so-called healing they could produce was just the placebo effect.</quote> There's a documentary and some interviews on a guy whose family thought he was dead but he was kept as a slave by someone who kept him in a trance for years. It's not magic, no, but to say there isn't anything to it is denying some truth. Even in things that sound overblown and ridiculous there is often a kernel of truth somewhere.</quote> Source for those interviews and documentary? There are plenty of drugs that can induce a trance-like state, and drugs can even put you in a coma. That doesn't mean there is anything magical about it. Using drugs to keep someone in a trance-like state for years is completely believable. Using magic and spells to do that same thing is 100% nonsense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 12/23/18 4:16:06 PM #24:	minervo posted... Lokarin posted... minervo posted... Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again. [citation needed] Read the Bible. You clearly have not. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:914606124] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote>Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again.</quote> [citation needed]</quote> Read the Bible.</quote> You clearly have not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StoneRevolver 12/23/18 4:22:28 PM #25:	rogerskg1979 posted... StoneRevolver posted... rogerskg1979 posted... StoneRevolver posted... Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants. You do know that the voodoo doll thing with the pins and needles is a product of Hollywood/pop culture and not an actual real thing, right? Shamans, witch doctors, and the like never used "real magic." The so-called "magical" chemicals they use would just make a person high and experience hallucinations and stuff. It was just a drug, no different than modern drugs like crack and marijuana and stuff like that. Any so-called healing they could produce was just the placebo effect. There's a documentary and some interviews on a guy whose family thought he was dead but he was kept as a slave by someone who kept him in a trance for years. It's not magic, no, but to say there isn't anything to it is denying some truth. Even in things that sound overblown and ridiculous there is often a kernel of truth somewhere. Source for those interviews and documentary? There are plenty of drugs that can induce a trance-like state, and drugs can even put you in a coma. That doesn't mean there is anything magical about it. Using drugs to keep someone in a trance-like state for years is completely believable. Using magic and spells to do that same thing is 100% nonsense. Can you read? I literally just said it wasn't magic. And before that I called it chemicals. --- Ask me for my GT or PSN if you like. <cite>StoneRevolver posted [p:914606465] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote>Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants.</quote> You do know that the voodoo doll thing with the pins and needles is a product of Hollywood/pop culture and not an actual real thing, right? Shamans, witch doctors, and the like never used "real magic." The so-called "magical" chemicals they use would just make a person high and experience hallucinations and stuff. It was just a drug, no different than modern drugs like crack and marijuana and stuff like that. Any so-called healing they could produce was just the placebo effect.</quote> There's a documentary and some interviews on a guy whose family thought he was dead but he was kept as a slave by someone who kept him in a trance for years. It's not magic, no, but to say there isn't anything to it is denying some truth. Even in things that sound overblown and ridiculous there is often a kernel of truth somewhere.</quote> Source for those interviews and documentary? There are plenty of drugs that can induce a trance-like state, and drugs can even put you in a coma. That doesn't mean there is anything magical about it. Using drugs to keep someone in a trance-like state for years is completely believable. Using magic and spells to do that same thing is 100% nonsense.</quote> Can you read? I literally just said it wasn't magic. And before that I called it chemicals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rogerskg1979 12/23/18 4:23:02 PM #26:	Jesus was a cleric/mage who used spells like Water Walk and Raise Dead. He got 1,000 XP for turning water to wine. Too bad he ran out of MP and had no mana potions when the Romans came for him. Game over! <cite>rogerskg1979 posted [p:914606497] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>Jesus was a cleric/mage who used spells like Water Walk and Raise Dead. He got 1,000 XP for turning water to wine. Too bad he ran out of MP and had no mana potions when the Romans came for him. Game over!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rogerskg1979 12/23/18 4:24:41 PM #27:	StoneRevolver posted... rogerskg1979 posted... StoneRevolver posted... rogerskg1979 posted... StoneRevolver posted... Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants. You do know that the voodoo doll thing with the pins and needles is a product of Hollywood/pop culture and not an actual real thing, right? Shamans, witch doctors, and the like never used "real magic." The so-called "magical" chemicals they use would just make a person high and experience hallucinations and stuff. It was just a drug, no different than modern drugs like crack and marijuana and stuff like that. Any so-called healing they could produce was just the placebo effect. There's a documentary and some interviews on a guy whose family thought he was dead but he was kept as a slave by someone who kept him in a trance for years. It's not magic, no, but to say there isn't anything to it is denying some truth. Even in things that sound overblown and ridiculous there is often a kernel of truth somewhere. Source for those interviews and documentary? There are plenty of drugs that can induce a trance-like state, and drugs can even put you in a coma. That doesn't mean there is anything magical about it. Using drugs to keep someone in a trance-like state for years is completely believable. Using magic and spells to do that same thing is 100% nonsense. Can you read? I literally just said it wasn't magic. And before that I called it chemicals. So then when what was the point of bringing it up when I was talking about shamans and witch doctors? It sounded like you were implying it was some magic voodoo hocus pocus. <cite>rogerskg1979 posted [p:914606576] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote>Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants.</quote> You do know that the voodoo doll thing with the pins and needles is a product of Hollywood/pop culture and not an actual real thing, right? Shamans, witch doctors, and the like never used "real magic." The so-called "magical" chemicals they use would just make a person high and experience hallucinations and stuff. It was just a drug, no different than modern drugs like crack and marijuana and stuff like that. Any so-called healing they could produce was just the placebo effect.</quote> There's a documentary and some interviews on a guy whose family thought he was dead but he was kept as a slave by someone who kept him in a trance for years. It's not magic, no, but to say there isn't anything to it is denying some truth. Even in things that sound overblown and ridiculous there is often a kernel of truth somewhere.</quote> Source for those interviews and documentary? There are plenty of drugs that can induce a trance-like state, and drugs can even put you in a coma. That doesn't mean there is anything magical about it. Using drugs to keep someone in a trance-like state for years is completely believable. Using magic and spells to do that same thing is 100% nonsense.</quote> Can you read? I literally just said it wasn't magic. And before that I called it chemicals.</quote> So then when what was the point of bringing it up when I was talking about shamans and witch doctors? It sounded like you were implying it was some magic voodoo hocus pocus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ogurisama 12/23/18 4:27:12 PM #28:	Magic is not real. I have an easier time believing that there was ancient aliens visiting earth then magic being real. And that is already far fetched. --- http://cdn-android.apptap.com/img/870/mobi.colortrilogy.bitlink/267135850.png https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/5/uv4r7nGyrE6ylt2lHGWpiQ2.gif <cite>Ogurisama posted [p:914606705] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>Magic is not real. I have an easier time believing that there was ancient aliens visiting earth then magic being real. And that is already far fetched.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StoneRevolver 12/23/18 4:27:53 PM #29:	rogerskg1979 posted... StoneRevolver posted... rogerskg1979 posted... StoneRevolver posted... rogerskg1979 posted... StoneRevolver posted... Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants. You do know that the voodoo doll thing with the pins and needles is a product of Hollywood/pop culture and not an actual real thing, right? Shamans, witch doctors, and the like never used "real magic." The so-called "magical" chemicals they use would just make a person high and experience hallucinations and stuff. It was just a drug, no different than modern drugs like crack and marijuana and stuff like that. Any so-called healing they could produce was just the placebo effect. There's a documentary and some interviews on a guy whose family thought he was dead but he was kept as a slave by someone who kept him in a trance for years. It's not magic, no, but to say there isn't anything to it is denying some truth. Even in things that sound overblown and ridiculous there is often a kernel of truth somewhere. Source for those interviews and documentary? There are plenty of drugs that can induce a trance-like state, and drugs can even put you in a coma. That doesn't mean there is anything magical about it. Using drugs to keep someone in a trance-like state for years is completely believable. Using magic and spells to do that same thing is 100% nonsense. Can you read? I literally just said it wasn't magic. And before that I called it chemicals. So then when what was the point of bringing it up when I was talking about shamans and witch doctors? It sounded like you were implying it was some magic voodoo hocus pocus. I see where you could get that. I was only implying that some of the stuff witchdoctors do is based in reality and does have weird effects on people. Like the trance thing. If you didn't understand it, you might call it magic. Which is what I think some cases of 'magic' are. --- Ask me for my GT or PSN if you like. <cite>StoneRevolver posted [p:914606742] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote>Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants.</quote> You do know that the voodoo doll thing with the pins and needles is a product of Hollywood/pop culture and not an actual real thing, right? Shamans, witch doctors, and the like never used "real magic." The so-called "magical" chemicals they use would just make a person high and experience hallucinations and stuff. It was just a drug, no different than modern drugs like crack and marijuana and stuff like that. Any so-called healing they could produce was just the placebo effect.</quote> There's a documentary and some interviews on a guy whose family thought he was dead but he was kept as a slave by someone who kept him in a trance for years. It's not magic, no, but to say there isn't anything to it is denying some truth. Even in things that sound overblown and ridiculous there is often a kernel of truth somewhere.</quote> Source for those interviews and documentary? There are plenty of drugs that can induce a trance-like state, and drugs can even put you in a coma. That doesn't mean there is anything magical about it. Using drugs to keep someone in a trance-like state for years is completely believable. Using magic and spells to do that same thing is 100% nonsense.</quote> Can you read? I literally just said it wasn't magic. And before that I called it chemicals.</quote> So then when what was the point of bringing it up when I was talking about shamans and witch doctors? It sounded like you were implying it was some magic voodoo hocus pocus.</quote> I see where you could get that. I was only implying that some of the stuff witchdoctors do is based in reality and does have weird effects on people. Like the trance thing. If you didn't understand it, you might call it magic. Which is what I think some cases of 'magic' are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
minervo 12/23/18 4:30:29 PM #30:	Mead posted... minervo posted... Lokarin posted... minervo posted... Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again. [citation needed] Read the Bible. You clearly have not. Have you? --- "how hard is it for people to understand that not everything you read will be something you agree with?" - Awesome <cite>minervo posted [p:914606870] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote>Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again.</quote> [citation needed]</quote> Read the Bible.</quote> You clearly have not.</quote> Have you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rogerskg1979 12/23/18 4:35:20 PM #31:	StoneRevolver posted... rogerskg1979 posted... StoneRevolver posted... rogerskg1979 posted... StoneRevolver posted... rogerskg1979 posted... StoneRevolver posted... Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants. You do know that the voodoo doll thing with the pins and needles is a product of Hollywood/pop culture and not an actual real thing, right? Shamans, witch doctors, and the like never used "real magic." The so-called "magical" chemicals they use would just make a person high and experience hallucinations and stuff. It was just a drug, no different than modern drugs like crack and marijuana and stuff like that. Any so-called healing they could produce was just the placebo effect. There's a documentary and some interviews on a guy whose family thought he was dead but he was kept as a slave by someone who kept him in a trance for years. It's not magic, no, but to say there isn't anything to it is denying some truth. Even in things that sound overblown and ridiculous there is often a kernel of truth somewhere. Source for those interviews and documentary? There are plenty of drugs that can induce a trance-like state, and drugs can even put you in a coma. That doesn't mean there is anything magical about it. Using drugs to keep someone in a trance-like state for years is completely believable. Using magic and spells to do that same thing is 100% nonsense. Can you read? I literally just said it wasn't magic. And before that I called it chemicals. So then when what was the point of bringing it up when I was talking about shamans and witch doctors? It sounded like you were implying it was some magic voodoo hocus pocus. I see where you could get that. I was only implying that some of the stuff witchdoctors do is based in reality and does have weird effects on people. Like the trance thing. If you didn't understand it, you might call it magic. Which is what I think some cases of 'magic' are. Okay, yeah, shamans and witch doctors were basically just using drugs before the effects of the drugs were commonly known by the average person. Native Americans smoked a "peace pipe" which was basically just marijuana. Is it therefore really any wonder that they hallucinated "spirit animals" and stuff when they were high on the wacky weed? <cite>rogerskg1979 posted [p:914607115] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote><cite>rogerskg1979 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StoneRevolver posted...</cite> <quote>Haitians have those voodoo folks that can turn people into a zombie state just using chemicals from plants.</quote> You do know that the voodoo doll thing with the pins and needles is a product of Hollywood/pop culture and not an actual real thing, right? Shamans, witch doctors, and the like never used "real magic." The so-called "magical" chemicals they use would just make a person high and experience hallucinations and stuff. It was just a drug, no different than modern drugs like crack and marijuana and stuff like that. Any so-called healing they could produce was just the placebo effect.</quote> There's a documentary and some interviews on a guy whose family thought he was dead but he was kept as a slave by someone who kept him in a trance for years. It's not magic, no, but to say there isn't anything to it is denying some truth. Even in things that sound overblown and ridiculous there is often a kernel of truth somewhere.</quote> Source for those interviews and documentary? There are plenty of drugs that can induce a trance-like state, and drugs can even put you in a coma. That doesn't mean there is anything magical about it. Using drugs to keep someone in a trance-like state for years is completely believable. Using magic and spells to do that same thing is 100% nonsense.</quote> Can you read? I literally just said it wasn't magic. And before that I called it chemicals.</quote> So then when what was the point of bringing it up when I was talking about shamans and witch doctors? It sounded like you were implying it was some magic voodoo hocus pocus.</quote> I see where you could get that. I was only implying that some of the stuff witchdoctors do is based in reality and does have weird effects on people. Like the trance thing. If you didn't understand it, you might call it magic. Which is what I think some cases of 'magic' are.</quote> Okay, yeah, shamans and witch doctors were basically just using drugs before the effects of the drugs were commonly known by the average person. Native Americans smoked a "peace pipe" which was basically just marijuana. Is it therefore really any wonder that they hallucinated "spirit animals" and stuff when they were high on the wacky weed?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StoneRevolver 12/23/18 4:39:48 PM #32:	Sweat lodges too. I got to participate in one and it definitely causes hallucinations. --- Ask me for my GT or PSN if you like. <cite>StoneRevolver posted [p:914607313] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>Sweat lodges too. I got to participate in one and it definitely causes hallucinations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rogerskg1979 12/23/18 4:45:18 PM #33:	Ogurisama posted... Magic is not real. I have an easier time believing that there was ancient aliens visiting earth then magic being real. And that is already far fetched. Why are aliens visiting Earth far fetched? Maybe they were just exploring and decided not to make their presence known to us. Especially if they were that much more advanced than us, it makes sense why they wouldn't want to make their presence known. Heck, in the Star Trek lore, the Vulcans knew about human life on Earth, but they purposefully avoided contact with Earth until humans achieved space traveling capabilities. Also, Kirk inadvertently broke the Federation's directive of avoiding contact with primitive cultures in Star Trek: Into Darkness. It makes sense that a very advanced and more peaceful alien civilization would want to avoid contact with a very primitive and very warlike Earth culture. I don't see that as far fetched at all. <cite>rogerskg1979 posted [p:914607553] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ogurisama posted...</cite> <quote>Magic is not real. I have an easier time believing that there was ancient aliens visiting earth then magic being real. And that is already far fetched.</quote> Why are aliens visiting Earth far fetched? Maybe they were just exploring and decided not to make their presence known to us. Especially if they were that much more advanced than us, it makes sense why they wouldn't want to make their presence known. Heck, in the Star Trek lore, the Vulcans knew about human life on Earth, but they purposefully avoided contact with Earth until humans achieved space traveling capabilities. Also, Kirk inadvertently broke the Federation's directive of avoiding contact with primitive cultures in Star Trek: Into Darkness. It makes sense that a very advanced and more peaceful alien civilization would want to avoid contact with a very primitive and very warlike Earth culture. I don't see that as far fetched at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimCarrysToe 12/23/18 4:53:49 PM #34:	No. --- kiss balloon pop Woops, now you're pregnant. /\|\ ^._.^ /\|\ <cite>JimCarrysToe posted [p:914607958] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 12/23/18 5:35:10 PM #35:	Chewster posted... I think that believing magic "used to" exist might actually be even dumber than believing it exists now. Thinking of it like a finite resource is ascribing a semblance of an idea that has some actual basis in reality. At least people who still believe in it fully know to go all in on rejecting the science unless you go with the ley line theory, and it got used up. or objects/creatures granted access to it, but they are all gone. --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:914609965] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Chewster posted...</cite> <quote>I think that believing magic "used to" exist might actually be even dumber than believing it exists now. Thinking of it like a finite resource is ascribing a semblance of an idea that has some actual basis in reality. At least people who still believe in it fully know to go all in on rejecting the science</quote> unless you go with the ley line theory, and it got used up. or objects/creatures granted access to it, but they are all gone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 12/23/18 5:39:24 PM #36:	It's very clear none of you know how to be magical. --- I'd rather die helping others survive than be all alone, UNSCATHED, after all others have fallen -DEC <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:914610146] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>It's very clear none of you know how to be magical.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coinstarcad 12/23/18 5:41:54 PM #37:	Yes there was magic before. The magic of fire, earth, air, and water. <cite>coinstarcad posted [p:914610247] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>Yes there was magic before. The magic of fire, earth, air, and water.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 12/23/18 6:01:04 PM #38:	Only in a young girl's heart. --- Judge, Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. You're a regular Jack Kerouac <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:914611016] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>Only in a young girl's heart.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 12/23/18 6:01:06 PM #39:	coinstarcad posted... Yes there was magic before. The magic of fire, earth, air, and water. what about heart? --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:914611019] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>coinstarcad posted...</cite> <quote>Yes there was magic before. The magic of fire, earth, air, and water.</quote> what about heart?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 12/23/18 6:40:09 PM #40:	minervo posted... Mead posted... minervo posted... Lokarin posted... minervo posted... Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again. [citation needed] Read the Bible. You clearly have not. Have you? Yes and it isnt full of references to fucking goblins and elves --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:914612719] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote>Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again.</quote> [citation needed]</quote> Read the Bible.</quote> You clearly have not.</quote> Have you?</quote> Yes and it isnt full of references to fucking goblins and elves </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 12/23/18 7:12:56 PM #41:	There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:914614272] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 12/23/18 8:08:28 PM #42:	How high are you? --- https://imgur.com/qL0DHFI https://imgur.com/JL9rRLt https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:914616906] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>How high are you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 12/23/18 8:36:46 PM #43:	Muscles posted... Do you think magic exists/used to exist? Only in some folks head. ClarkDuke posted... How high are you? TC is certainly puffing that magic Dragon, ok? --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:914618169] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muscles posted...</cite> <quote>Do you think magic exists/used to exist?</quote> Only in some folks head. <cite>ClarkDuke posted...</cite> <quote>How high are you?</quote> TC is certainly puffing that magic Dragon, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
minervo 12/23/18 8:49:22 PM #44:	Mead posted... minervo posted... Mead posted... minervo posted... Lokarin posted... minervo posted... Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again. [citation needed] Read the Bible. You clearly have not. Have you? Yes and it isnt full of references to fucking goblins and elves Israel is the human race. The following races were obliterated in the book of Ezekiel: Ammon - for being grateful when Israel nearly perished. These were the dwarves. Moab - for claiming Israel is just like every other nation. These were the orcs. Edom - for seeking revenge against Israel when it nearly perished. These were the halflings. Phillista - for acting in vengeance against Israel when it nearly perished. These were the trolls. Tyre - for taking pride in their beauty and claiming to be better than Israel. These were the elves. Sidon - for failing to protect Israel in its time of need. These were the dragons. --- "how hard is it for people to understand that not everything you read will be something you agree with?" - Awesome <cite>minervo posted [p:914618718] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote>Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again.</quote> [citation needed]</quote> Read the Bible.</quote> You clearly have not.</quote> Have you?</quote> Yes and it isnt full of references to fucking goblins and elves </quote> Israel is the human race. The following races were obliterated in the book of Ezekiel: Ammon - for being grateful when Israel nearly perished. These were the dwarves. Moab - for claiming Israel is just like every other nation. These were the orcs. Edom - for seeking revenge against Israel when it nearly perished. These were the halflings. Phillista - for acting in vengeance against Israel when it nearly perished. These were the trolls. Tyre - for taking pride in their beauty and claiming to be better than Israel. These were the elves. Sidon - for failing to protect Israel in its time of need. These were the dragons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 12/23/18 9:15:31 PM #45:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL1Xt3T9ZnY" data-time="&start=8 --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:914619779] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL1Xt3T9ZnY" data-time="&start=8</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ungubby 12/23/18 9:26:33 PM #46:	minervo posted... Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again. came here to say this. Also, Harry Potter (although you may know him as the actor "Daniel Radcliffe") is real. Hollywood decided to use these REAL wizards but give them "actor aliases" to make sure people wouldn't suspect they are from the wizarding world. --- https://imgur.com/PQUCsqg <cite>ungubby posted [p:914620277] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote>Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again.</quote> came here to say this. Also, Harry Potter (although you may know him as the actor "Daniel Radcliffe") is real. Hollywood decided to use these REAL wizards but give them "actor aliases" to make sure people wouldn't suspect they are from the wizarding world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 12/23/18 9:26:53 PM #47:	Geez, did the topic seriously go this long without somebody posting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnbfuAcCqpY" data-time=" --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:914620290] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>Geez, did the topic seriously go this long without somebody posting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnbfuAcCqpY" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 12/23/18 9:28:13 PM #48:	^ post 38 refrences it --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:914620356] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>^ post 38 refrences it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 12/23/18 9:29:39 PM #49:	Classic Muscles topic --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:914620425] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>Classic Muscles topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 12/23/18 9:37:12 PM #50:	real magic was/is just the same sleight of hand stuff that still exists today, except now most people understand that it's phony and admire it for the skill required, whereas back then pretty much everyone believed it. --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* https://imgur.com/GMouTGs http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:914620713] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote>real magic was/is just the same sleight of hand stuff that still exists today, except now most people understand that it's phony and admire it for the skill required, whereas back then pretty much everyone believed it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 12/23/18 9:47:00 PM #51:	minervo posted... Mead posted... minervo posted... Mead posted... minervo posted... Lokarin posted... minervo posted... Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again. [citation needed] Read the Bible. You clearly have not. Have you? Yes and it isnt full of references to fucking goblins and elves Israel is the human race. The following races were obliterated in the book of Ezekiel: Ammon - for being grateful when Israel nearly perished. These were the dwarves. Moab - for claiming Israel is just like every other nation. These were the orcs. Edom - for seeking revenge against Israel when it nearly perished. These were the halflings. Phillista - for acting in vengeance against Israel when it nearly perished. These were the trolls. Tyre - for taking pride in their beauty and claiming to be better than Israel. These were the elves. Sidon - for failing to protect Israel in its time of need. These were the dragons. When do the unicorns and bugbears show up --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:914621122] in Do you thi... [t:77328436]...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>minervo posted...</cite> <quote>Magic is real; elves, dwarves, trolls, dragons and many other mythical creatures used to exist on this very planet. But every single one of those creatures became proud, and began to kill and destroy. It was then that humans, the most powerful of earthly beings, had to put a stop to the bloodshed. And so under the eye and protection of God, they brought all these ancient races and beings to utter extinction. They did not disappear completely though. All earthly souls are ancient, they are caught in endless reincarnation cycles until all are saved. The BC era was full of warfare and many people went to hell. In the CE era no one goes to actual hell; they go to a place that looks like hell until they repent. Once they do, they are reincarnated again.</quote> [citation needed]</quote> Read the Bible.</quote> You clearly have not.</quote> Have you?</quote> Yes and it isnt full of references to fucking goblins and elves </quote> Israel is the human race. The following races were obliterated in the book of Ezekiel: Ammon - for being grateful when Israel nearly perished. These were the dwarves. Moab - for claiming Israel is just like every other nation. These were the orcs. Edom - for seeking revenge against Israel when it nearly perished. These were the halflings. Phillista - for acting in vengeance against Israel when it nearly perished. These were the trolls. Tyre - for taking pride in their beauty and claiming to be better than Israel. These were the elves. Sidon - for failing to protect Israel in its time of need. These were the dragons.</quote> When do the unicorns and bugbears show up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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