Board 8 > Persona 5 Mafia Topic 1 - Enter the Metaverse

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Arti
12/16/18 7:58:44 PM
#1:


RULES
GENERAL
0. Don't be an ass-hat. I might modkill.
1. Mafia is fundamentally a game of the uninformed majority (the TOWN), against the informed minority (the MAFIA). It is the town's job to eradicate the mafia completely, and the mafia's job to survive to a point where numbers are such that they cannot lose.
2. The town eliminates the mafia via lynches, which occur once a day. Everyone gets one vote which they may place on whoever they feel is scum. Whoever receives the most votes is 'lynched' and removed from the game.
3. During the night phase, the mafia gets its chance to even the numbers slightly by killing one townie, removing them from the game. All power roles (under most circumstances) also get to perform their actions.
4. Upon a player's death, their role PM will be posted in the topic.
5. The game ends when one faction meets its victory condition. A player will win, even if they are dead, so long as their alignment triumphs.
6. Do what the host says. The host shouldn't ask you to break a rule, but if he says to do something that violates something else, do it. Feel free to take it up with him in private beforehand, but do it.

VOTING
1. You vote in the format '##Vote: Player', in bold. You can remove your vote by posting '##Unvote', also in bold. You can also choose to '##Vote: No Lynch'. I will be very strict on this formatting.
2. The lynch is decided on a plurality system. Once one player receives votes from a majority of the playership left in the game, the day immediately ends, and that player is lynched. Failing that, every day has a time limit of 48 hours. The player in the lead at that point will be lynched.
2a. If there are an even number of players alive, No Lynch only requires half of the players to vote for it. Everything else requires an actual majority.
3. In the event that two or more players are tied in votes at the end of the day, sudden death will occur. A thirty minute extension will begin once indicated by the host, and only the tied players may be voted for. The moment one player emerges as the vote leader, the day immediately ends, and they will be lynched. If there is no change after thirty minutes, the day will end with No Lynch.
3a. In a tie between No Lynch and a player (or players), No Lynch automatically wins, with no tiebreaker.

ROLES
1. Before the game begins, you will receive your role from the host. This will contain your flavor character, your alignment, and your role, as well as some flavor text explaining your character and role. As bad as said flavor text is, I worked hard on it!
2. You must keep this role to yourself. Sharing it with anyone else within or outside of the topic will lead to your immediate modkill, as well as possibly anyone who sees it.
3. You may choose to reveal your role in-game, but you must paraphrase anything that isn't your flavor name, alignment, and role (i.e. the flavor text that came with your role - You can discuss this, but you must paraphrase it). Incidentally, if there are any other communications with me that you wish to reference for whatever reason, you must paraphrase those as well.
4. All TOWN Vanillas have the following in their flavor:
You are [flavor character], TOWN Vanilla.

You have no powers besides your voice and vote, use them well!

You win when all threats to the TOWN are eliminated.

DO NOT POST YET
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Arti
12/16/18 7:59:21 PM
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ETIQUETTE
1. An above-average level of activity is expected in this game. You are not expected to post for the whole 48 hours, but you are expected to keep up to speed with the topic. Posting only a handful of times a day is not an acceptable level of activity. I will modpoke you if you have not posted for 24 hours and have not brought it up to my attention previously. Being inactive for 48 hours straight will result in a forced replace, no exceptions.
2. Play to win. There is no such thing as being in an unwinnable position in mafia, however hopeless it may seem. If you are patently not trying, and/or sabotaging your faction, you will be on grounds for a modkill.
3. You are forbidden from talking to another player about the game outside the topic, unless you have a special board, or permission from the host to do so. You are forbidden from posting in the topic during the night phase. You are forbidden from deleting posts. This includes players who have been eliminated from the game, and I would appreciate if spectators would do the same.
4. Do not post/pass on messages or pictures from another player into the topic. Do not post audio clips into the topic.
5. Remember to check your messages before posting in each new day, even if you are not expecting correspondence from the host. There may be something you need to be aware of before posting.
6. Do not attempt to bet, or stake a claim on outside forces during the game i.e. do not 'swear on your mother's life' that you are telling the truth or threaten 'to quit mafia' if something doesn't go the way you want it to. This will result in a swift modkill, as soon as it's brought to my attention.
7. Play nice. Deliberate intimidation, harassment or verbal abuse of another player in a malicious and uncalled for fashion may lead to a modkill. Mafia is a game first and foremost, and while your own fun should be priority #1, everybody else's should be priority #1a.
8. No warnings and no mercy for anything I deem across the line on the above rule. Consider this your only warning.
9. If I forgot an obvious rule, too bad, don't break it, etc. I reserve the right to modify these rules within reason if I forgot a rule or something similar.

OTHER NOTES
1. I may or may not write flavor for fakeclaiming with. Ask me if you want it. The sooner you ask, the more likely you are to get it before you urgently need it.
2. Don't discuss spoilers. They probably exist in your role PMs. But discussing them is exceedingly pointless and may spoil somebody on a book/show they've yet to read or are currently reading.
3. You may vote for yourself, but do keep in mind that this can violate the "Play to win" rule and may be grounds for a modkill.
4. You may edit posts for minor grammatical errors. Fixing votes that are misformatted do not count towards this.
5. Metagaming is definitely encouraged. Please do it as much as you can so gravy and I can laugh at you.
6. Anything not in bold in the flavor text is just flavor, and does not affect the game as a whole.
7. If you need to contact me, you can send me a PM here on GameFAQs or a message on Discord (arti#9842). I am almost always on the latter so if you need a quick response, that is probably the better option.


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Arti
12/16/18 8:00:15 PM
#3:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZtFhrb3xmg" data-time="


The Metaverse.

Inside its mystery lies strong distortions known as Palaces, where a person's thoughts and perception of themselves create the ideal environment for their Shadow. Each one holds a Treasure, which is a representation of the owner's thoughts and desires.

The Phantom Thieves of Hearts were formed to steal the distorted desires of the many people who have unwittingly created a Palace in the Metaverse. We will take your distorted desires without fail.


Player List (20)
1. Ashethan
2. benjamin3740
3. Corrik
4. Dark Young Link
5. eaedwards6400
6. garetha200
7. HanOfTheNekos
8. Hbthebattle
9. htaeD
10. IfGodCouldDie
11. Johnbobb
12. masterplum
13. MZero11
14. Neablis
15. red13n
16. Reg
17. ScareChan
18. Shaduln
19. Sheep007
20. Terra-enforcer

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch. Day ends at 8:00 PM EST on Tuesday, December 18th, approximately 48 hours from now.


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Arti
12/16/18 8:03:19 PM
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Arti
12/16/18 8:04:12 PM
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IfGodCouldDie
12/16/18 8:07:45 PM
#6:


First.
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DoomTheGyarados
12/16/18 8:08:08 PM
#7:


Replacement tag.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/16/18 8:08:33 PM
#8:


Vote:Reg
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IfGodCouldDie
12/16/18 8:08:51 PM
#9:


##Vote:Reg
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red13n
12/16/18 8:12:35 PM
#10:


Aren't you all tired? You should go to sleep.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/16/18 8:12:35 PM
#11:


Well this sure is exciting.
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Dark Young Link
12/16/18 8:13:18 PM
#12:


Evening everyone.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/16/18 8:14:35 PM
#13:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBvV1miNoA8" data-time="

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Neablis
12/16/18 8:14:37 PM
#14:


Hi kids,

So excite about this flavor
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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:21:37 PM
#15:


corrik is the doctor

dont lynch him
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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:21:56 PM
#16:


han is the cop

dont lynch him
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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:22:50 PM
#17:


whoever gara is will replace out and become chris

dont lynch him
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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:23:09 PM
#18:


Miz is always scum

lynch him

##Vote: Miz
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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:24:45 PM
#19:


ben is my mason buddy and I hope he forgives me for last game because I still love him

dont lynch him
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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:25:41 PM
#20:


Red is my scum buddy

please dont lynch him, he keeps dieing day 1 as scum give him time to be scum harder
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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:26:45 PM
#21:


FD is not in this game

his posting is already consistent as if he were in game

lynch him anyways
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red13n
12/16/18 8:26:54 PM
#22:


Neablis posted...
Hi kids,

So excite about this flavor


your flavor in particular or?
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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:27:34 PM
#23:


Reg is playing for the first time in years

would be rude to kill him so quickly

lynch him day 2
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red13n
12/16/18 8:27:50 PM
#24:


also who is garetha200.
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red13n
12/16/18 8:28:09 PM
#25:


Scare aren't you tired? You should head to bed.
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Neablis
12/16/18 8:28:27 PM
#26:


red13n posted...
Neablis posted...
Hi kids,

So excite about this flavor


your flavor in particular or?


Just in general.

How are you red?
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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:28:40 PM
#27:


I dont know what you are trying to breadcrumb red

I already gave you scum cover so relax
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Reg
12/16/18 8:29:03 PM
#28:


you know

for not having played mafia in nearly five years I sure recognize a lot of this player list

also hi igcd you want to teach me how to play mafia since you have clearly mastered the art of day 1? =)
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red13n
12/16/18 8:29:44 PM
#29:


Neablis posted...
red13n posted...
Neablis posted...
Hi kids,

So excite about this flavor


your flavor in particular or?


Just in general.

How are you red?


I am full of bloodlust.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/16/18 8:29:52 PM
#30:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrO9ySwbTjo" data-time="

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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:30:03 PM
#31:


Hot predix

end of day is me vs DYL because of course

please dont mislynch me
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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:30:43 PM
#32:


town clearing IGCD already
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IfGodCouldDie
12/16/18 8:31:22 PM
#33:


Reg posted...
you know

for not having played mafia in nearly five years I sure recognize a lot of this player list

also hi igcd you want to teach me how to play mafia since you have clearly mastered the art of day 1? =)

Sure, lynch people and win.
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Neablis
12/16/18 8:32:27 PM
#34:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Reg posted...
you know

for not having played mafia in nearly five years I sure recognize a lot of this player list

also hi igcd you want to teach me how to play mafia since you have clearly mastered the art of day 1? =)

Sure, lynch people and win.


Igcd just slipped hes scum he just wants to lynch people not scum
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Reg
12/16/18 8:33:02 PM
#35:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Reg posted...
you know

for not having played mafia in nearly five years I sure recognize a lot of this player list

also hi igcd you want to teach me how to play mafia since you have clearly mastered the art of day 1? =)

Sure, lynch people and win.

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IfGodCouldDie
12/16/18 8:33:06 PM
#36:


Neablis posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Reg posted...
you know

for not having played mafia in nearly five years I sure recognize a lot of this player list

also hi igcd you want to teach me how to play mafia since you have clearly mastered the art of day 1? =)

Sure, lynch people and win.


Igcd just slipped hes scum he just wants to lynch people not scum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAlaVnDyzIA" data-time="

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IfGodCouldDie
12/16/18 8:33:38 PM
#37:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Neablis posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Reg posted...
you know

for not having played mafia in nearly five years I sure recognize a lot of this player list

also hi igcd you want to teach me how to play mafia since you have clearly mastered the art of day 1? =)

Sure, lynch people and win.


Igcd just slipped hes scum he just wants to lynch people not scum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAlaVnDyzIA" data-time="

Also scum are people too.
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red13n
12/16/18 8:34:03 PM
#38:


Random.org says we should lynch reg.

For those curious, the full random.org scumteam(And I am just assuming 6 it could be who knows what) is

16. Reg
18. Shaduln
7. HanOfTheNekos
12. masterplum
6. garetha200
8. Hbthebattle

I am mostly just keeping this for hilarious how bad was random at picking scum things at the end of the game.

But you are feeling tired. You should go to bed.
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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:34:29 PM
#39:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Reg posted...
you know

for not having played mafia in nearly five years I sure recognize a lot of this player list

also hi igcd you want to teach me how to play mafia since you have clearly mastered the art of day 1? =)

Sure, lynch people and win.


this is good but let me add on
*channels inner chris*
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red13n
12/16/18 8:34:46 PM
#40:


It did however correctly place me at the bottom of the list as I am the least likely to be scum. Good job, RNG.
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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:34:50 PM
#41:



0. The Obvious

Not everything within mafia is strictly about the game that you are playing in. Outside factors will often determine your success and your ability to sustain long term success. Never harm yourself, even mentally, over how you approach the game and thats the first and best moment important way to become a very good player. You have to show up to be good, after all.

Learning to cope with being wrong

No mafia player is ever going to always be right. No matter how successful, intelligence, or diligent mistakes are always going to happen. It feels amazing to do everything right and to bask in the warm glow of victory, but what about when you make the decision that leads to towns downfall? What happens when you are trusted to safeguard a victory only for the final scum to have tricked you despite your best efforts?

Pinpoint the moment where the scum(s) started you on the path of faulty logic, embrace the error as solvable with diligence and post game strategizing, and move on to the next sign up topic.

Mafia is an incredibly hard game to play among peers who are comparable in skill, but when you are also playing against your ghosts it becomes next to impossible to play. Every one of you who has read this has been, and will be many times again, wrong in the game of mafia. As has this author. Thats OK! It does not mean that you should accept your flaws and not seek improvement, but for good mental health and steady progress it is imperative that you not punish yourself and become emotional over even really poor decision making. We have all been there, and you are only human. This essay is meant to instruct on how your best can be better, but at the end of the day if you gave it your best thats all anyone should ever ask of you.

b. The absence of fear

As either alignment mafia is largely a game of personality. No matter what you do as town you have to realize, in conjunction with the fact that you are human and are going to inevitably err, is that you cannot be afraid of making tough decisions. You will either be right or you will be right, it is a yes/no paradigm. Undue hesitation (which is not to be confused with prudent consideration) only harms both your decision making process as well as your reputation as a decider for future games.

When you allow fear to enter into the equation you allow yourself to be manipulated by arguments that do not matter. It does not matter who the person is or what role they have claimed or how upset you are making them if you, through your diligent method, believe them to be scum. Mistakes of thought are to be analyzed when an alignment becomes a known quantity, not while in the midst of the action.

We all fear that anxiety. That bubbling in our stomach of wanting to get it right. It is, again, human nature to hesitate and to torment ourselves when we invest fully into something. We dont want to mess up, of course. However it is key as a member of town to be able to quash that rebellious tendency and to move forward regardless. Measure twice, cut once, and you will never miss your mark unduly.


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Reg
12/16/18 8:35:08 PM
#42:


Scare did you actually get good and develop an inner Chris or are you lying to these poor saps?
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12/16/18 8:35:36 PM
#43:



c. Having Fun

Despite what some may think, this section is probably the most vital thing I am going to write in this entire essay and it is much more than the generic sentiment that games should be fun. If you do not have fun playing mafia you should not play it not only because games should not tax you, but also because you will be a much poorer player because of it. When you do things out of obligation instead of zeal it will hinder what can reasonably be expected from you. People too often do not realize this and attempt to play in poor circumstances when really they would have been better served simply taking a break and coming back when they were better able to handle the workload that a high paced mafia game can put on a person from time to time.

In game this remains true. Frustration at times is to be expected if things are not unfolding in a manner which you would like, but allowing it to override your enjoyment of the game continuously is going to do nothing but harm the decision making paradigm you implement. Sustained stress and emotional volatility lead to lapses in judgment and in a game as competitive as mafia that can lead to unforced errors which will inevitably lead to just more stress. Nip it in the bud, and remember by having fun you contribute to a more welcoming environment as well as a better played game over

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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:36:27 PM
#44:


Reg posted...
Scare did you actually get good and develop an inner Chris or are you lying to these poor saps?


I literally just copy and pasted Chris's essay he is writing

but I would say its fair to say I am significantly better than I was 5 years ago

Game of Thrones series raised my game very much
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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:36:50 PM
#45:


Neablis posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Reg posted...
you know

for not having played mafia in nearly five years I sure recognize a lot of this player list

also hi igcd you want to teach me how to play mafia since you have clearly mastered the art of day 1? =)

Sure, lynch people and win.


Igcd just slipped hes scum he just wants to lynch people not scum


neablis having fun

scum tell
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red13n
12/16/18 8:37:03 PM
#46:


Scare you copy paste any more crap I will make sure you get lynched today stop it.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/16/18 8:38:35 PM
#47:


red13n posted...
Scare you copy paste any more crap I will make sure you get lynched today stop it.

This is definitely scum move. Why wouldn't you want town to be the best they could be? That's what Scare is doing. He is making town better.
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12/16/18 8:38:59 PM
#48:


did you get that from random.org scum buddyred13n posted...
Scare you copy paste any more crap I will make sure you get lynched today stop it.

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Reg
12/16/18 8:39:48 PM
#49:


ScareChan posted...
but I would say its fair to say I am significantly better than I was 5 years ago

That makes one of us
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ScareChan
12/16/18 8:40:36 PM
#50:


Reg I am giving you a day 1 pass because its been a while but you have not earned the right to shit post. I already marked you for day 2 lynch
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