Current Events > The 40 hour work week is objectively bad

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bobbaaay posted...

The Popo posted...

Id be all for having four 10-hour days instead of five 8-hour days. Still work 40 hours, but get a 3 day weekend.

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The labor movement didn't fight for 8 hour days so people could fight for ten. Do you want child labor again, too?

Prime Minister of Malaysia bad! Martial arts good!

Trickfinger posted...

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KobeSystem posted...

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40s perfect amount unless you are a lazy millenial

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Im a doctor. Sometimes i put in 80. Good try though. I like knowing my time is spent bettet than eating cheetos, drinking mountain dew and playing video games

You're a doctor and you spend all day every day on here

Yeah, I don't think so.

He uses voice to text while checking a dudes prostate

Fitting, since he's always talking out of his ass.
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DarkRoast posted...

40 hours lol. If I had a 40 hour week, it'd be only due to being sick.

what hours do you do normally
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Trickfinger posted...

DarkRoast posted...

40 hours lol. If I had a 40 hour week, it'd be only due to being sick.

what hours do you do normally

At least 80
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Psh, get on my level. I work 160 hours a week
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

Psh, get on my level. I work 160 hours a week

I do 320

Lightweights
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Middle hope posted...

PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

I put in 12hrs today.

Right now I'm half way into a 10 hour day. Working about 60 this week.

So, are you advocating for a longer work week, or a shorter one?
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DarkRoast posted...

40 hours lol. If I had a 40 hour week, it'd be only due to being sick.

and youre proud of that? fucking pathetic
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Fuck, I can't remember the last time I only worked 40 hours.
I love my job though, so...
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edededdy posted...

DarkRoast posted...

40 hours lol. If I had a 40 hour week, it'd be only due to being sick.

and youre proud of that? fucking pathetic

That's Miss Coffeebeanz and works with Internal medicine, meaning long hectic hours are the norm.

Like I said, 40 hours seem plausible, BUT ONLY if we get three days off in return.
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People only work 40 hrs a week lmao

Trickfinger posted...

what job are you doing that's 70+ hours a week regularly?

Oil/gas and construction. When I worked camp jobs, I was doing 84 hours weeks (12 hours per day) for 3 weeks straight at a time.
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I've been trying to argue for a 6-month 4 12s and 6 month 4 8s at my job. Heck, Id be ecstatic for 4 10s. That's basically 50 extra vacation days.

I've been more and more curious about Germany's way of doing things. 35 hour weeks, 24 paid days off averaged or something like that. Also saw where some employees won a legal battle to only work 28 hours a week for 2 years.

I'd probably go stir crazy if I worked that little though.
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MuayThai85 posted...

Trickfinger posted...

what job are you doing that's 70+ hours a week regularly?

Oil/gas and construction. When I worked camp jobs, I was doing 84 hours weeks (12 hours per day) for 3 weeks straight at a time.

ouch
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Trickfinger posted...

MuayThai85 posted...

Trickfinger posted...

what job are you doing that's 70+ hours a week regularly?

Oil/gas and construction. When I worked camp jobs, I was doing 84 hours weeks (12 hours per day) for 3 weeks straight at a time.

ouch

The $15,000 I went home with after a 3 week run made it worth it though. Oil/wind jobs + driving escorts in between contracts is what allowed me to travel as much and for as long as I did. If I worked a regular job I wouldn't have been able to come to Asia 3 times in 3 years (2 months - 8 months - 6 months).
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MuayThai85 posted...

Trickfinger posted...

what job are you doing that's 70+ hours a week regularly?

Oil/gas and construction. When I worked camp jobs, I was doing 84 hours weeks (12 hours per day) for 3 weeks straight at a time.

That's how it was for me working in the oil/gas field and I didn't mind it at all. Being on the road there was no reason to not work as much as possible and coming home with a fat paycheck plus three/four weeks to do whatever I wanted was great.
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It's true, anyone arguing in favor of the current 40 hour work week is just plain wrong, and you poor saps putting in 70+ hours just aren't getting to live life. Life is meant to be enjoyed, not spent at work. Work to live not live to work.

Yes somewhere there is a NEET smiling at how right they are, but take away the pathetic life of a NEET for a minute and you will see they are not altogether wrong in their analysis of the pitfalls of the 40 hour work week, which isn't even 40 hours when factoring in traffic and limits you place on your home life to insure you can go back out to work the next morning.

It's only designed to be 40 hours a week to trick people into spending all their leisure time on entertainment. The idea being back in the day, why make fancy cars for everyone if no one has time to use them.

Then of course, technology was supposed to make work more efficient yet we are still stuck in the mode of "logged hours".

It should be quality of work, not quantity.

One other big problem is when you work so much you get diminishing returns in terms of output.

kayoticdreamz posted...

It's true, anyone arguing in favor of the current 40 hour work week is just plain wrong, and you poor saps putting in 70+ hours just aren't getting to live life. Life is meant to be enjoyed, not spent at work. Work to live not live to work.

How many people can say the spent a year and a half backpacking around a continent? Working 70+ hour weeks made that possible for me. Working those kind of hours made it possible for me to enjoy life more.

I wouldn't be interested in doing it anymore now that I have a child and I have a decent paying job where I work 40 hours/week (well, I teach about 15 hours, the rest is just sitting in the office playing on my phone). However, if I was still single and without a family I would definitely go back to working the 70+ hour weeks just so I could do even more travelling. Work 70-80 hours/week for 4 months so I can have 8 months off to travel and do whatever the hell I pleased is worth it no matter what way you look at it.
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MuayThai85 posted...

kayoticdreamz posted...

It's true, anyone arguing in favor of the current 40 hour work week is just plain wrong, and you poor saps putting in 70+ hours just aren't getting to live life. Life is meant to be enjoyed, not spent at work. Work to live not live to work.

How many people can say the spent a year and a half backpacking around a continent? Working 70+ hour weeks made that possible for me. Working those kind of hours made it possible for me to enjoy life more.

I wouldn't be interested in doing it anymore now that I have a child and I have a decent paying job where I work 40 hours/week (well, I teach about 15 hours, the rest is just sitting in the office playing on my phone). However, if I was still single and without a family I would definitely go back to working the 70+ hour weeks just so I could do even more travelling. Work 70-80 hours/week for 4 months so I can have 8 months off to travel and do whatever the hell I pleased is worth it no matter what way you look at it.

Thats a fair trade off.

But the point is most people don't make that trade off. They keep logging long hours and live to work and nothing but that.

Everyone needs to work 80 hours a week for a month to solely develop robots who will then work and send them their wage for years to come
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My problem is that I never take any days off, because every time I do, I'm giving up $1200/day by not moonlighting. I inevitably ask if I'd pay $1200 to have a day off, then I force myself to work extra.
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I actually cashed my vacation time in.

Rather than taking time off with nowhere to go I opted to cash out my 80hrs.

I got a 120 hour check in a weeks time.

They literally gave me three pay stubs that weekend.

The extra 80hrs on my 40 didn't count as OT pay but it was still was a attractive payday.

Taxed me to hell but my account went up like $1,400 in a week.
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DarkRoast posted...

My problem is that I never take any days off, because every time I do, I'm giving up $1200/day by not moonlighting. I inevitably ask if I'd pay $1200 to have a day off, then I force myself to work extra.

You make like $35,000 a month ?
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Out of 168 hours in a week I don't think working less than 1/4 of them so you can survive and provide for yourself as all that bad.
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

Out of 168 hours in a week I don't think working less than 1/4 of them so you can survive and provide for yourself as all that bad.

That math only works if you aren't considering sleep.

An adult is recommended to get 7-9 hours of sleep.

So ~56 hours of that 168 is dedicated is sleep.

40/112 is more like a 1/3. Actual is ~36%.
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Middle hope posted...

You cannot deny it.

Sure I can. There's nothing wrong with that hour amount, the issue is the common 8/day layout.
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RedWhiteBlue posted...

WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

Out of 168 hours in a week I don't think working less than 1/4 of them so you can survive and provide for yourself as all that bad.

Eh. You're only awake for so long, and work is an exhausting thing for a lot of people. Hell, most people hate their jobs. Doing that for almost 40 years just so you can retire on little to nothing and not enjoy life is dehumanizing. We should strive to improve the quality of our lives, and more time to do what we actually want is the best place to start. People saying "oh well I work 12345 hours a day and I'm fine!" are missing the point and don't have any empathy.

This is also another factor. A lot of people come home from work and collapse from exhaustion. They essentially use home as a place to recover before they have to go back to work rather than using home as a place to live. Hence TV gets so much time because you are so damn tired.

And yes doing that for 40 years would kill anyone's soul.

Agreed.

40 hour a week jobs are just so counterproductive and burn out employees.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Agreed.

40 hour a week jobs are just so counterproductive and burn out employees.

People were talking about 20-30 hour weeks 40 years ago. I wonder what happened.
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People say commercial construction takes too long now, imagine what would happen with a 25 hour work week. Ha.

What's joke.
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as a guy that works on a computer all day. I could probably do 4 tens instead of 5 eights. Hell I'd probably take wednesday off
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i work 36 or 48 hours a week, depends on the week/day
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It used to be 48 hours.

In all seriousness, nothing sounds more miserable than working 40 hours/week at a dead-end job. That's no way to live.
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I really like how my job works with it's busy season.

For like 3 months a year I work 50-70hrs a week. I honestly enjoy the challenge and I know that it's going to end. The rest of the year I work 25-35hrs a week. It's a nice ebb and flow.

I actually really enjoy my job though.
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PepperoniMaster posted...

In all seriousness, nothing sounds more miserable than working 40 hours/week at a dead-end job. That's no way to live.

I think people need to realize that them having a dead-end job they dislike doesn't mean everyone does. When you have a job you can enjoy or take pride in, 40 hours a week ain't shit.
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

DarkRoast posted...

My problem is that I never take any days off, because every time I do, I'm giving up $1200/day by not moonlighting. I inevitably ask if I'd pay $1200 to have a day off, then I force myself to work extra.

You make like $35,000 a month ?

I've only made that much in a month one time, but it required 3 straight weeks of work with no breaks and it was agonizing.

If you want to make that kind of cash, you're better off in surgery or Cardiology.
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DarkRoast posted...

PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

DarkRoast posted...

My problem is that I never take any days off, because every time I do, I'm giving up $1200/day by not moonlighting. I inevitably ask if I'd pay $1200 to have a day off, then I force myself to work extra.

You make like $35,000 a month ?

I've only made that much in a month one time, but it required 3 straight weeks of work with no breaks and it was agonizing.

You need to get better organized.

I don't need nowhere that amount to live a month.

$3,000 a month is good enough for me.
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

DarkRoast posted...

PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

DarkRoast posted...

My problem is that I never take any days off, because every time I do, I'm giving up $1200/day by not moonlighting. I inevitably ask if I'd pay $1200 to have a day off, then I force myself to work extra.

You make like $35,000 a month ?

I've only made that much in a month one time, but it required 3 straight weeks of work with no breaks and it was agonizing.

You need to get better organized.

I don't need nowhere that amount to live a month.

$3,000 a month is good enough for me.

He made a year's salary in 1/12 of the time. I think he's better organized than most people here.
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DarkRoast posted...

PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

DarkRoast posted...

My problem is that I never take any days off, because every time I do, I'm giving up $1200/day by not moonlighting. I inevitably ask if I'd pay $1200 to have a day off, then I force myself to work extra.

You make like $35,000 a month ?

I've only made that much in a month one time, but it required 3 straight weeks of work with no breaks and it was agonizing.

If you want to make that kind of cash, you're better off in surgery or Cardiology.

So what do you do for a living?

kayoticdreamz posted...

DarkRoast posted...

PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

DarkRoast posted...

My problem is that I never take any days off, because every time I do, I'm giving up $1200/day by not moonlighting. I inevitably ask if I'd pay $1200 to have a day off, then I force myself to work extra.

You make like $35,000 a month ?

I've only made that much in a month one time, but it required 3 straight weeks of work with no breaks and it was agonizing.

If you want to make that kind of cash, you're better off in surgery or Cardiology.

So what do you do for a living?

Hospitalist
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DarkRoast posted...

kayoticdreamz posted...

DarkRoast posted...

PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

DarkRoast posted...

My problem is that I never take any days off, because every time I do, I'm giving up $1200/day by not moonlighting. I inevitably ask if I'd pay $1200 to have a day off, then I force myself to work extra.

You make like $35,000 a month ?

I've only made that much in a month one time, but it required 3 straight weeks of work with no breaks and it was agonizing.

If you want to make that kind of cash, you're better off in surgery or Cardiology.

So what do you do for a living?

Hospitalist

oh here we go again with coffee acting all high and mighty. no1 gives a fuck how much you work or how much you make. just because thats how your fucking job does things doesnt make you superior or right. it just reinforced the idea that things need to change. i wouldnt want a doctor whos worked 80 fucking hours and is exhausted beyond all repair making life changing decisions for me about my health
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Best schedule possible for 40 hours

4 10 hour days with friday saturday Sunday off
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squarion posted...

Best schedule possible for 40 hours

4 10 hour days with friday saturday Sunday off

My old job had that schedule.

My new one is 9hrs Mon > Thu and 4hrs on Fri.

Would be nice to do 4 10s but they want people working on Fridays rather than being completely closed.
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my uncle has a whole bunch of vacation hours saved it's going to pay off when the hours get cut (normal paychecks all winter).
looking forward to that since he works all the time and he could spend a bit of time with the dog (she's turning 8 this year) in January.
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I do 4 tens to close to eleven.

This week it's 5
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