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Genocet_10-325
11/07/18 7:30:19 AM
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Itll be fun to see what he's been hiding
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Chicken
11/07/18 7:31:02 AM
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Just because they can doesnt mean they will
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11/07/18 7:31:55 AM
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Genocet_10-325
11/07/18 7:31:57 AM
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Chicken posted...
Just because they can doesnt mean they will

Pelosi already said she intends to.
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V-E-G-Y-
11/07/18 7:32:35 AM
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Genocet_10-325
11/07/18 7:34:09 AM
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V-E-G-Y- posted...
Polosi said dey aren't dere to impeach trump so its a fail

Okay, that has nothing to do with making him release his tax returns.
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eston
11/07/18 7:37:07 AM
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Does anyone actually care about Trump's tax returns, or is it just a way to stick it to him?
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
11/07/18 7:42:25 AM
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I figure if the tax returns weren't such a big deal to him, he'd have released them already. He won't even release the years that aren't under "audit", so I think there's something to be found there.
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iClockwork
11/07/18 7:46:51 AM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
I figure if the tax returns weren't such a big deal to him, he'd have released them already.

If you have nothing inside just let the police search your house and car anytime they want.
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ledbowman
11/07/18 7:47:26 AM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
I figure if the tax returns weren't such a big deal to him, he'd have released them already. He won't even release the years that aren't under "audit", so I think there's something to be found there.

Definitely.
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Autocraticus
11/07/18 7:48:11 AM
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Is this the Democrat equivalent of "but her emails?"
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ledbowman
11/07/18 7:48:44 AM
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Autocraticus posted...
Is this the Democrat equivalent of "but her emails?"

No
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Genocet_10-325
11/07/18 7:49:53 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
I figure if the tax returns weren't such a big deal to him, he'd have released them already.

If you have nothing inside just let the police search your house and car anytime they want.

If I had nothing to hide then sure I would.
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DanHarenChamp
11/07/18 7:50:15 AM
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Autocraticus posted...
Is this the Democrat equivalent of "but her emails?"


Yup. But in this case he's actively going around bragging about how he abuses tax loopholes and theres reports out of him committing tax fraud. And this is a guy where you'd be stupid to not believe he has committed tax fraud at some point.
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Hawaiian_punch
11/07/18 7:51:28 AM
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@eston posted...
Does anyone actually care about Trump's tax returns, or is it just a way to stick it to him?


1) wait until its 7 months before the 2020 election
2) release tax returns bombshell
3) make a SMALL dent on his numbers

A series of hits like that will have some impact on 2020

Remember what Russia and Wikileaks did? Every time Hillary was out of a slump they would release a new bad scoop about Hillary.

The tax returns could be just one scoop in a series of big stories theyd release. The last 2 months of 45s campaign would be week after week of (true) stories that are negative to him.
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
11/07/18 7:53:50 AM
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Autocraticus posted...
Is this the Democrat equivalent of "but her emails?"

Not really. Every modern presidential candidate (even the GOP's savior Reagan) has released their returns. If your hands are clean, then you have nothing to hide.

It would even work to his favor in attacking the media. Imagine the shame on the leftwing media if after all their claims, Trump's returns show nothing untoward?
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Youngster_Joey_
11/07/18 7:59:39 AM
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Antifar
11/07/18 7:59:57 AM
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V-E-G-Y- posted...
Polosi said dey aren't dere to impeach trump so its a fail

Trying to impeach him would be a waste of time
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TheBiggerWiggle
11/07/18 8:04:32 AM
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TIL a random cop showing up to a random persons house is comparable to a world leader proving he cannot be bribed and follows the laws of his country.
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Fam_Fam
11/07/18 8:08:12 AM
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this is what will happen

they'll find he did shitty things

he'll say he's smart for doing those shitty things, and that anyone in his position would have and should have done the same thing ("everyone does it, and everyone knows that")

his enemies will rightfully dislike him even more. his supporters won't care. and nothing will happen.
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
11/07/18 8:09:30 AM
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And on the subject of Pelosi, she needs to recognize that she'd be the perfect foil to Trump and guarantee his 2020 reelection. She needs to step aside to allow a progressive to become speaker for the good of the party.
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Genocet_10-325
11/07/18 8:11:58 AM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
And on the subject of Pelosi, she needs to recognize that she'd be the perfect foil to Trump and guarantee his 2020 reelection. She needs to step aside to allow a progressive to become speaker for the good of the party.

I actually like her as speaker because theres nobody who makes republican blood boil more than her. They've been demonizing her for 12 years and to them its like satan himself is now the house speaker
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EndOfDiscOne
11/07/18 8:12:00 AM
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Is their some law that presidents have to release their returns? I thought candidates just did it out of tradition and to appear transparent.
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Genocet_10-325
11/07/18 8:13:57 AM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Is their some law that presidents have to release their returns? I thought candidates just did it out of tradition and to appear transparent.

There's no law but they can still subpoena them
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NinjaWarrior455
11/07/18 8:15:54 AM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
And on the subject of Pelosi, she needs to recognize that she'd be the perfect foil to Trump and guarantee his 2020 reelection. She needs to step aside to allow a progressive to become speaker for the good of the party.

I'm not big on Pelosi but there isn't anyone from the Dems right now that can do her job as well as she can. Maybe after 2020 when the Dems hopefully win the WH.
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EndOfDiscOne
11/07/18 8:17:48 AM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Is their some law that presidents have to release their returns? I thought candidates just did it out of tradition and to appear transparent.

There's no law but they can still subpoena them


For what cause, in this case?
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iClockwork
11/07/18 8:19:21 AM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
If I had nothing to hide then sure I would.

yikes
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frozenshock
11/07/18 8:30:10 AM
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If they get his tax returns, whatever will be in there will make democrats go "see, he's a crook!" and republicans go "there's nothing there!"
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JBaLLEN66
11/07/18 8:31:26 AM
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Chicken posted...
Just because they can doesnt mean they will

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EndOfDiscOne
11/07/18 4:55:23 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Is their some law that presidents have to release their returns? I thought candidates just did it out of tradition and to appear transparent.

There's no law but they can still subpoena them


For what cause, in this case?

Serious question for anyone who knows. Why will congress subpoena the tax returns for any reason other than "we want to see them"? Is that considered a good enough reason?
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ledbowman
11/07/18 5:20:47 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Is their some law that presidents have to release their returns? I thought candidates just did it out of tradition and to appear transparent.

There's no law but they can still subpoena them


For what cause, in this case?

Serious question for anyone who knows. Why will congress subpoena the tax returns for any reason other than "we want to see them"? Is that considered a good enough reason?

They will show he doesn't pay his taxes. "That makes me smart."
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11/07/18 5:27:15 PM
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Because other presidents have released their taxes to the public doesn't mean anybody can force Trump, a private citizen, to release anything to the public. This literally can't be done without people in the IRS and others getting fired and penalized legally
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ledbowman
11/07/18 5:27:40 PM
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Spooking posted...
Funny seeing all the left has on Trump now is his tax returns. Whoa... calm down, we might get another Rachel Maddow tax return clip.

Can you give us a sneak peek at what you'll say when the indictments come down?
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PrettyBoyFloyd
11/07/18 5:32:13 PM
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What does it matter anyway ?

Trump might not or might have done what anybody else would do if they could pull a sneaker on the IRS.
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Houston
11/07/18 5:34:35 PM
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Spooking posted...
Funny seeing all the left has on Trump now is his tax returns. Whoa... calm down, we might get another Rachel Maddow tax return clip.


Hahaha I remember that. What a joke that was
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EndOfDiscOne
11/07/18 5:45:03 PM
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ledbowman posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Is their some law that presidents have to release their returns? I thought candidates just did it out of tradition and to appear transparent.

There's no law but they can still subpoena them


For what cause, in this case?

Serious question for anyone who knows. Why will congress subpoena the tax returns for any reason other than "we want to see them"? Is that considered a good enough reason?

They will show he doesn't pay his taxes. "That makes me smart."


If you're referring to his comment on the campaign trail regarding the time in the 90s when he had massive loss carryovers so he didn't pay taxes...he had no taxes to pay. It wasn't some sneaky loophole, and it didn't make him smart. Loss carryovers are a basic tool that anyone would use if they had them. But of course both sides see what they want.
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Questionmarktarius
11/07/18 5:47:58 PM
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Via what mechanism?
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Ray_Dorset
11/07/18 5:48:14 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Is their some law that presidents have to release their returns? I thought candidates just did it out of tradition and to appear transparent.

There's no law but they can still subpoena them


For what cause, in this case?

Serious question for anyone who knows. Why will congress subpoena the tax returns for any reason other than "we want to see them"? Is that considered a good enough reason?


To see if he is beholden in any way to a foreign power and to ensure that he has not broken any laws. Just the circumstantial evidence around him should be enough to have his taxes reviewed and then a report made public, at the very least.
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EndOfDiscOne
11/07/18 5:49:45 PM
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Ray_Dorset posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Is their some law that presidents have to release their returns? I thought candidates just did it out of tradition and to appear transparent.

There's no law but they can still subpoena them


For what cause, in this case?

Serious question for anyone who knows. Why will congress subpoena the tax returns for any reason other than "we want to see them"? Is that considered a good enough reason?


To see if he is beholden in any way to a foreign power and to ensure that he has not broken any laws. Just the circumstantial evidence around him should be enough to have his taxes reviewed and then a report made public, at the very least.


Okay, that would be a good reason if they are investigation him for something else.
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Ray_Dorset
11/07/18 5:51:25 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Ray_Dorset posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Is their some law that presidents have to release their returns? I thought candidates just did it out of tradition and to appear transparent.

There's no law but they can still subpoena them


For what cause, in this case?

Serious question for anyone who knows. Why will congress subpoena the tax returns for any reason other than "we want to see them"? Is that considered a good enough reason?


To see if he is beholden in any way to a foreign power and to ensure that he has not broken any laws. Just the circumstantial evidence around him should be enough to have his taxes reviewed and then a report made public, at the very least.


Okay, that would be a good reason if they are investigation him for something else.


No, that should be a standard part of being president.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/07/18 5:51:50 PM
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iClockwork posted...
Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
I figure if the tax returns weren't such a big deal to him, he'd have released them already.

If you have nothing inside just let the police search your house and car anytime they want.


If cops are trying to search your house and car regularly, you should be asking yourself why...
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11/07/18 5:52:04 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Ray_Dorset posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Is their some law that presidents have to release their returns? I thought candidates just did it out of tradition and to appear transparent.

There's no law but they can still subpoena them


For what cause, in this case?

Serious question for anyone who knows. Why will congress subpoena the tax returns for any reason other than "we want to see them"? Is that considered a good enough reason?


To see if he is beholden in any way to a foreign power and to ensure that he has not broken any laws. Just the circumstantial evidence around him should be enough to have his taxes reviewed and then a report made public, at the very least.


Okay, that would be a good reason if they are investigation him for something else.


Maybe it would be if there was circumstances evidence but there isn't. If there was, Mueller would have done this ages ago. Know who else would have leaked info? The IRS. So we do know that currently there is no reason or legal reason to do it so it's impossible without his permission
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ledbowman
11/07/18 6:25:09 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
ledbowman posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Is their some law that presidents have to release their returns? I thought candidates just did it out of tradition and to appear transparent.

There's no law but they can still subpoena them


For what cause, in this case?

Serious question for anyone who knows. Why will congress subpoena the tax returns for any reason other than "we want to see them"? Is that considered a good enough reason?

They will show he doesn't pay his taxes. "That makes me smart."


If you're referring to his comment on the campaign trail regarding the time in the 90s when he had massive loss carryovers so he didn't pay taxes...he had no taxes to pay. It wasn't some sneaky loophole, and it didn't make him smart. Loss carryovers are a basic tool that anyone would use if they had them. But of course both sides see what they want.

Ok but he clearly thinks if you can get out of paying, you did good. Why didn't he just say what you said? It's almost like he stinks to high heaven.
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rikasa
11/07/18 6:29:12 PM
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It is the "but her emails" of Donald Trump which perfectly demonstrates how sexist and hypocritical people are. I read Hillary's emails and didn't find anything objectionable. I'd like the same opportunity with Trump's taxes.
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southcoast09
11/07/18 6:30:04 PM
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Its really nobodys business. Theres literally no way that could, in any way, obstruct his power.
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dirtycommunist
11/07/18 6:35:41 PM
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eston posted...
Does anyone actually care about Trump's tax returns, or is it just a way to stick it to him?

I am quite interested in seeing what he has so doggedly hidden, having broken precedent, then promises, in not releasing them.
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ChainedRedone
11/07/18 6:38:00 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
iClockwork posted...
Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
I figure if the tax returns weren't such a big deal to him, he'd have released them already.

If you have nothing inside just let the police search your house and car anytime they want.

If I had nothing to hide then sure I would.


That's pathetic if true. You're a sheep.

Anyway the two aren't comparable because releasing tax return is a presidential tradition. Plus, he promised he would. Neither of you are the brightest huh.
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Lorenzo_2003
11/07/18 7:03:27 PM
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I think what the tax returns might reveal would be embarassing, if anything. For example, critics could laugh that he doesn't quite have the billions he's bragged about and it would turn into the inaugaration small crowd controvery all over again.

As for willingly revealing your tax returns when you feel you have nothing to hide anyway, well, that is just stupid as hell. Guys, don't do that. Don't talk to the police or other law enforcement either when you don't have an attorney present to advise you. Better yet, don't talk at all because nothing good comes of it, regardless of whether you did or did not do something wrong. It may be used against you in court and that's literally in the Miranda rights text. That's basic personal law defense.
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ChainedRedone
11/07/18 11:00:35 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
As for willingly revealing your tax returns when you feel you have nothing to hide anyway, well, that is just stupid as hell. Guys, don't do that. Don't talk to the police or other law enforcement either when you don't have an attorney present to advise you. Better yet, don't talk at all because nothing good comes of it, regardless of whether you did or did not do something wrong. It may be used against you in court and that's literally in the Miranda rights text. That's basic personal law defense.


Imagine thinking it has anything to do with Miranda rights. Lol...just lol.
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