Poll of the Day > Why do people think it's ok to sit and talk in a restaurant that closed an...

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...hour ago?

We were nice enough to serve you 15 minutes to close but now you're just being rude.
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Probably because the goober of a cook didnt mention to them that they were closing soon and that he could pack up their food to go along with some to go cups for their drinks
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As usual, mead posts the exact opposite of the truth.
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Yea Mead, hes waiting to bus their table.

Guy needs to take a hospitality 101 course
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What if the closed restaurant charges, like, an overtime uphike on the food they serve so they don't mind?
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Mead posted...

Probably because the goober of a cook didnt mention to them that they were closing soon and that he could pack up their food to go along with some to go cups for their drinks

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Lokarin posted...

What if the closed restaurant charges, like, an overtime uphike on the food they serve so they don't mind?

I wish. $50 plus one of them was a slob. Talking with food in his mouth, waving his half a cheesesteak appetizer and burger with fries for lunch around. Cleaning up, you'd think a small child just ate.
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Mead posted...

Guy needs to take a hospitality 101 course

Pfft, I know plenty of hospitality majors. They all know I could teach the class, especially the section on non-confrontational conflict resolution.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Mead posted...

Guy needs to take a hospitality 101 course

Pfft, I know plenty of hospitality majors. They all know I could teach the class, especially the section on non-confrontational conflict resolution.

Tell us more about how highly esteemed you are

It sounds true
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Mead posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

Mead posted...

Guy needs to take a hospitality 101 course

Pfft, I know plenty of hospitality majors. They all know I could teach the class, especially the section on non-confrontational conflict resolution.

Tell us more about how highly esteemed you are

It sounds true

I could tell you about the time, while bartending, a drunk angry couple came in, she wanting to drink but unservable, he wanting her not to drink and being a bit to too aggressive about it. Then how I denied her, checked on her safety, calmed him down from angry drunk to over zealously concerned to husband that was just trying to keep her safe. They left calmly, holding hands.

I could then also tell you how my drinking buddy, the casino blackjack dealer, that graduated from Johnson and Wales, was completely blown away by how I handled the situation. His words were "Beyond what they can teach a person". My other friend and cousin-in-law, who also witnessed the event, both agreed with him.

It was really a work of art, from my body language, tone, demeanor and choice of words to watching them walk away lovingly.

But why? It's not like you'll believe it. Negative people have a hard time believing true, positive things actually happen. I pray for you.
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Jfc you two just because you dislike each other doesnt mean you need to argue in every single goddamn one of sunnys topics
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Greenfox111 posted...

Jfc you two just because you dislike each other doesnt mean you need to argue in every single goddamn one of sunnys topics

What arguing? I'm not yelling or hurling insults.
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Not 100% sure but I thought there's the actual closing time when the lights are off and everyone leaves and then there's the "we no longer accept customers" time. I rarely go in that late but I assume the time on display is just the "we no longer accept customers" time. Don't the workers usually stay a bit after the doors are locked to cleanup?
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Greenfox111 posted...

Jfc you two just because you dislike each other doesnt mean you need to argue in every single goddamn one of sunnys topics

I have unlimited argue privileges
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InfestedAdam posted...

Not 100% sure but I thought there's the actual closing time when the lights are off and everyone leaves and then there's the "we no longer accept customers" time. I rarely go in that late but I assume the time on display is just the "we no longer accept customers" time. Don't the workers usually stay a bit after the doors are locked to cleanup?

Most companies won't allow their servers to say anything to campers. Honestly it's one of the rudest things you can do. People always say 'well I paid and they're getting paid so tough', but fact is that they're not getting paid anymore. When a waiter gets a paycheck it's taxed until it reads 0.00
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SunWuKung420 posted...

But why? It's not like you'll believe it. Negative people have a hard time believing true, positive things actually happen.

I believe that happened and I believe your friends told you you were great, but I don't agree with the implication you have any skill, mister cheesesteak chef.
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I'm also going to blame the cook who thinks he's a part-owner.
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Part of it is the restaurants fault though, as you shouldn't seat new customers when you are getting close to closing time OR you should pay employees to work at least 30 minutes after closing.

Now if you get paid in tips and there is just 1 or 2 customers staying afterwards, and especially if they do not actually tip you....that is extremely rude I agree. I also realize not everywhere is like Washington where you get base min wage + tips (so $11 hour here).

Even here though I have a friend who literally disregards his base pay as non-existant and RAVES about customers not tipping him as much. Dude gets $300+ a day in tips and complains sometimes, it's crazy.

If your getting paid less then min wage though, and your employeer makes you stay after closing, you should at least get a pay hike to normal min wage for that time or something. Course, if your like my friend you will consider that worthless lol.
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Zeus posted...

I'm also going to blame the cook who thinks he's a part-owner.

The owner thinks he should be running the place

When he shows up everyone claps!
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SunWuKung420 posted...

But why? It's not like you'll believe it. Negative people have a hard time believing true, positive things actually happen. I pray for you.

Lol I believe it happened. But i dont think that's some impressive accomplishment that I'd still be talking about years down the road like you seem to think it is. That's like bartending 101 and is the kind of stuff that you have to do fairly frequently in that industry

Zeus posted...

I'm also going to blame the cook who thinks he's a part-owner.

Depending on the restaurant and the quality, don't the head chef usually have some pull? Of course not to the degree of being "part-owner" but I would assume some influence. Granted I assume this only applies to high end restaurants and not something like BJs, Yardhouse, or other mid/lower end restaurants.

BADoglick posted...

Most companies won't allow their servers to say anything to campers. Honestly it's one of the rudest things you can do. People always say 'well I paid and they're getting paid so tough', but fact is that they're not getting paid anymore. When a waiter gets a paycheck it's taxed until it reads 0.00

Kinda confused by this. If a restaurant is closed to customers at 10pm and workers stay another hour for the late comers and then maybe another hour to cleanup and finally leave at 12am. Regardless of when they leave they're only paid for their shift unless they get OT?

In this case shouldn't the restaurant either A) adjust shifts to account for late arrivals and the actual time the restaurant is close close or B) stop accepting new customers X minutes before the public closing time?

Mead posted...

The owner thinks he should be running the place

I read Anthony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential and I vaguely recall him writing about the different type of owners. One in particular are the owners who know little to nothing about running a business or restaurant and simply just writing the checks to so speak. In some cases this is fine because said owner leaves the managing to the manager/head chef while in some the owner tries to take control and the inexperience kills the restaurant.
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I keep hearing conflicting reports from friends who are waiters/cooks.

The cooks pretty much universally agree that tips suck for them, they often just get 10% of the total (counted) tips spread between all non-waiters, if that. From what I hear they often are lucky to get an extra $20 a day. This sounds like a pretty horrid deal to me honestly, and totally unfair. This is especially true as it sounds like most waiters take the cash tips themselves and don't count them, so it's the tips on cards that get shared mainly.

Waiters though vary greatly in their description, most baretenders and waiters at places that serve alcohol are very happy with tips and make way more then most other part time jobs...often needing to work 2-3 days only and still take home way more then most people working 40-50 hours a week.

Others who work at places like Denny's or Shari's, Applebee's etc, are not as jubilant when describing their job and tips. Biggest factor seems to be how busy the place is where they work, the cost of the food, and if the establishment serves alcohol.

Seems from what I have heard that many drunk people tip way more...not always, but a tip of $20 happens sometimes for meals that cost half that.

I personally like to socialize, I'm friendly, I LOVE food and would actually have liked to have been a waiter. I'm not too old to try it sometime honestly, and I may still. I wanted to be a cook though, but in my area cooks get min wage or there about ($11 an hour) and no or a very small portion of the tips. This seems extremely unfair to me, so even though I enjoy cooking I would not do that job and work twice as many hours for less money as the wait staff.
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BADoglick posted...

Most companies won't allow their servers to say anything to campers. Honestly it's one of the rudest things you can do. People always say 'well I paid and they're getting paid so tough', but fact is that they're not getting paid anymore. When a waiter gets a paycheck it's taxed until it reads 0.00

Lol.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Mead posted...

Guy needs to take a hospitality 101 course

Pfft, I know plenty of hospitality majors. They all know I could teach the class, especially the section on non-confrontational conflict resolution.

Then why is it that nobody here likes you or respects you?
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BADoglick posted...

Most companies won't allow their servers to say anything to campers. Honestly it's one of the rudest things you can do. People always say 'well I paid and they're getting paid so tough', but fact is that they're not getting paid anymore. When a waiter gets a paycheck it's taxed until it reads 0.00

I thought tax was a percentage of your paycheck. And if so, this doesn't make any sense...

InfestedAdam posted...

adjust shifts to account for late arrivals and the actual time the restaurant is close close

That could be hard. Especially since you may not get late customers everyday. One night, you may get late customers that stay for an hour after you close. And another night may have the last customers leave before closing time. They should just have regular hours where they are paid for the time they are there. And they just get more hours (which is more money) in the end...

InfestedAdam posted...

stop accepting new customers X minutes before the public closing time?

This would probably be a good idea. Though, then people get mad when a place says it's open, but they won't serve them.
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Right?
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Mead posted...

Guy needs to take a hospitality 101 course

Welcome to PotD, where that word has no meaning.
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ungubby posted...

Mead posted...

Guy needs to take a hospitality 101 course

Welcome to PotD, where that word has no meaning.

And the points don't matter...
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LinkPizza posted...

ungubby posted...

Mead posted...

Guy needs to take a hospitality 101 course

Welcome to PotD, where that word has no meaning.

And the points don't matter...

Also, those without jobs have no right to say anything.
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LinkPizza posted...

This would probably be a good idea. Though, then people get mad when a place says it's open, but they won't serve them.

So don't leave an open sign when not open for business?
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Because it is ok?

People go to a restaurant to sit and have a meal - not to be rushed out.

Don't like your job? Get a different, but don't complain about the people who literally pay your salary.

Where do you think the money for your paycheck comes from? The Paycheck fairy? No, from those consumers buying a meal at your restaurant. if you close at 11:00pm, and someone comes at 10:55pm, you have no right to complain.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

This would probably be a good idea. Though, then people get mad when a place says it's open, but they won't serve them.

So don't leave an open sign when not open for business?

Well, if it says the restaurant is open until 10, but they stop serving new customers earlier, the business is technically still open. They just won't serve you. People will get mad because you didn't serve them even though you were open. If you turn the sign off early, people then think you closed early even though you just turned off the sign because you weren't serving new customers. But they'll still get mad...
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JazzMasterZero posted...

Yea Mead, hes waiting to bus their table.

ahhhh beat me to it LOL
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GodKuzanagi posted...

Because it is ok?

lol Topic over.
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GodKuzanagi posted...

People go to a restaurant to sit and have a meal - not to be rushed out.

They had finished eating and just say their and talked. It's rude.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

GodKuzanagi posted...

People go to a restaurant to sit and have a meal - not to be rushed out.

They had finished eating and just say their and talked. It's rude.

sat* there*
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LinkPizza posted...

Well, if it says the restaurant is open until 10, but they stop serving new customers earlier, the business is technically still open. They just won't serve you. People will get mad because you didn't serve them even though you were open. If you turn the sign off early, people then think you closed early even though you just turned off the sign because you weren't serving new customers. But they'll still get mad...

It should work like that but just doesn't. If anything it could work to serve them and then just have the employees clean up after fully closing.
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Revelation34 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Well, if it says the restaurant is open until 10, but they stop serving new customers earlier, the business is technically still open. They just won't serve you. People will get mad because you didn't serve them even though you were open. If you turn the sign off early, people then think you closed early even though you just turned off the sign because you weren't serving new customers. But they'll still get mad...

It should work like that but just doesn't. If anything it could work to serve them and then just have the employees clean up after fully closing.

They could also maybe serve customers until closing, but only serve take-out orders after a certain time. Like at 15-30 minutes before closing, everything has to be take-out. Maybe...
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If you're still doing closing stuff, it shouldn't be a huge deal but when you're done you'd definitely be justified in saying they have to go

SunWuKung420 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

ungubby posted...

Mead posted...

Guy needs to take a hospitality 101 course

Welcome to PotD, where that word has no meaning.

And the points don't matter...

Also, those without jobs have no right to say anything.

Sure we do

If you cant handle it then dont post
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I wouldnt want to work in a restaurant because i value going home when im supposed to and hate staying extra even if i do sometimes. If customers dictated when i could leave essentially id kill myself

:)
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