Board 8 > McGregor/Khabib who ya got

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ScareChan
10/07/18 1:11:11 AM
#51:


if I put the belt on you people are going to throw shit and people will get hurt

Dana as super face gm
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scarletspeed7
10/07/18 1:11:44 AM
#52:


It's kind of amazing how the sense of reality there is UFC allows such a simple storyline to completely trump the cartoonish nature of WWE.
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Jakyl25
10/07/18 1:12:15 AM
#53:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Is the idea to prep this for a second fight? Because that's what it feels like to me. Maybe on the Brock Lesnar return show?


I imagine theyd rather not put all their draws on one show
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ScareChan
10/07/18 1:12:16 AM
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this will literally cause Irish and Russian mafia warfare
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CaptainOfCrush
10/07/18 1:12:55 AM
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UFC has out-pro wrestling'd pro wrestling ever since the WWE abandoned their PPV model.
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Jakyl25
10/07/18 1:13:45 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Menji posted...
Seeing the dude in red jump the cage and sucker punch mcgregor was ridiculous and stupid

I'm inclined to believe their entire beef is staged. UFC has been going the WWE route for awhile now.


If by that you mean since it was created then yes

No it's been going the literal staged drama route since just before Dana White sold it and the Fertitta brothers left. Without the showmanship in recent years that sport is dying a very fast death, and their biggest star just got destroyed.


My point is that it was staged drama since day 1

Maybe now you just notice more?
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ScareChan
10/07/18 1:13:52 AM
#58:


GIVE US THE REMATCH

we need FACE CONNER
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scarletspeed7
10/07/18 1:14:21 AM
#60:


In the ultimate of ironies, UFC saw Becky getting cheered and turned Conor face.
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ScareChan
10/07/18 1:15:21 AM
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I need Talking Smack for a post show cool down
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davidponte
10/07/18 1:15:29 AM
#62:


I've bought in to heel Khabib.
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voltch
10/07/18 1:15:31 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Menji posted...
Seeing the dude in red jump the cage and sucker punch mcgregor was ridiculous and stupid

I'm inclined to believe their entire beef is staged. UFC has been going the WWE route for awhile now.


If by that you mean since it was created then yes

No it's been going the literal staged drama route since just before Dana White sold it and the Fertitta brothers left. Without the showmanship in recent years that sport is dying a very fast death, and their biggest star just got destroyed.


My point is that it was staged drama since day 1

Maybe now you just notice more?


Tito vs Dana was basically Stone Cold vs Vince at one point!
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scarletspeed7
10/07/18 1:16:04 AM
#64:


ScareChan posted...
I need Talking Smack for a post show cool down

Daniel Bryan just revealed that Khabib has a Tout account
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ScareChan
10/07/18 1:16:52 AM
#66:


watching end of taker and trips is like a waste now
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scarletspeed7
10/07/18 1:17:00 AM
#67:


Staged drama is not the same as a staged fight.
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DoomTheGyarados
10/07/18 1:17:17 AM
#68:


Given how long Jakyl has been following wrestling I am willing to get some popcorn here
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TheRock1525
10/07/18 1:17:21 AM
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Khabib gonna start yelling "I'm not the coward! You're the coward!"
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ScareChan
10/07/18 1:17:35 AM
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Im pretty sure I watched UFC 1
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Jakyl25
10/07/18 1:18:25 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Menji posted...
Seeing the dude in red jump the cage and sucker punch mcgregor was ridiculous and stupid

I'm inclined to believe their entire beef is staged. UFC has been going the WWE route for awhile now.


If by that you mean since it was created then yes

No it's been going the literal staged drama route since just before Dana White sold it and the Fertitta brothers left. Without the showmanship in recent years that sport is dying a very fast death, and their biggest star just got destroyed.


My point is that it was staged drama since day 1

Maybe now you just notice more?

There is no way you watched UFC 1 live, and I'd even bet money you've never been in a fight in your entire life. Claiming UFC has staged drama from day one is laughably ignorant and proves you know jack shit outside the biggest names.


What are you talking about?

The fights arent staged and never have been (in UFC, not MMA)

The storylines are the staged part
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Jakyl25
10/07/18 1:19:01 AM
#72:


ScareChan posted...
Im pretty sure I watched UFC 1


I rented the VHS
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Corrik
10/07/18 1:22:13 AM
#73:


Yinz are all weird.
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scarletspeed7
10/07/18 1:22:53 AM
#74:


Best tweet of the night:

https://twitter.com/steveaustinbsr/status/1048804282424676353?s=21
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ScareChan
10/07/18 1:23:08 AM
#75:


the DOOBLE CHAMP DOES WHAT THE FUCK HE WANTS

for AMERICA

...(and ireland)
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Jakyl25
10/07/18 1:23:32 AM
#76:


Like, the storyline of UFC 1 was a tournament designed to determine the best martial art, organized by the Gracies, who put their smallest dude in there instead of the best Gracies to prove the superiority of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Ken Shamrock was the only other legit quality fighter in there, and Royce predictably was still able to tap him.

They deliberately didnt put anyone in there who was a threat to him.
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ScareChan
10/07/18 1:24:41 AM
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im at full chub
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DoomTheGyarados
10/07/18 1:25:57 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Like, the storyline of UFC 1 was a tournament designed to determine the best martial art, organized by the Gracies, who put their smallest dude in there instead of the best Gracies to prove the superiority of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Ken Shamrock was the only other legit quality fighter in there, and Royce predictably was still able to tap him.

They deliberately didnt put anyone in there who was a threat to him.


And this is why you don't fuck with Jakyl. I immediately knew he was about to make Ulti go night night with lore.
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Jakyl25
10/07/18 1:26:58 AM
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To be fair it seems like he wasnt sure what I meant?
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DoomTheGyarados
10/07/18 1:27:34 AM
#80:


Jakyl stop being fair I am your hype man.
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TheRock1525
10/07/18 1:28:25 AM
#81:


JaKyL is the hype.
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CaptainOfCrush
10/07/18 1:29:13 AM
#82:


Yeah, the widespread belief is that the PPV-selling drama is fabricated, but I rarely if ever hear someone actually claim UFC stages their fights.
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davidponte
10/07/18 1:30:48 AM
#83:


So I'm hearing talk on Twitter of charges, VISA losses, suspensions, etc.

But Conor can throw at dolly at a bus and come out unscathed? Obviously this is a little different, but the same idea of assault is there.
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ScareChan
10/07/18 1:32:11 AM
#84:


Im just sitting here going Wow

like UFC is governed differently that has to be a huge fine and suspension and he may literally be excommunicated from UFC right?
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SwiftyDC
10/07/18 1:32:25 AM
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Called it.
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Jakyl25
10/07/18 1:32:53 AM
#86:


CaptainOfCrush posted...
Yeah, the widespread belief is that the PPV-selling drama is fabricated, but I rarely if ever hear someone actually claim UFC stages their fights.


I promise you there has never been a staged fight in UFC history

PRIDE on the other hand...
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ScareChan
10/07/18 1:33:16 AM
#87:


davidponte posted...
So I'm hearing talk on Twitter of charges, VISA losses, suspensions, etc.

But Conor can throw at dolly at a bus and come out unscathed? Obviously this is a little different, but the same idea of assault is there.


interesting ninja

I believe the difference is that no one actually got hurt with conner it was just destruction of property?
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Jakyl25
10/07/18 1:36:16 AM
#88:


ScareChan posted...
davidponte posted...
So I'm hearing talk on Twitter of charges, VISA losses, suspensions, etc.

But Conor can throw at dolly at a bus and come out unscathed? Obviously this is a little different, but the same idea of assault is there.


interesting ninja

I believe the difference is that no one actually got hurt with conner it was just destruction of property?


No, Conor actually did hurt people. Fighters on that bus got cut by the glass window he broke by throwing shit.
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davidponte
10/07/18 1:38:21 AM
#89:


What are the odds that they both actually show up to the post-fight press conference?
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AheadOfTheCurve
10/07/18 1:38:34 AM
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DoomTheGyarados posted...
Given how long Jakyl has been following wrestling I am willing to get some popcorn here

Who gives a shit about wrestling fans right now? We're talking about actual fighting. But if you want to humor me, wrestling fans in no way matter outside of about 4 days per year, and that's based on 2012 numbers. Their biggest audience is brand loyalists of people over 50 years old and they aren't attracting anyone new, which is an unsustainable model as their audience literally dies off. That plus exposing the business put a time limit on it, and you have these numbers to show what kind of advertisers wrestling attracts:

https://imgur.com/yX4C0M1

This is from the 2012 study that investors wanted when discussing WWE TV deals.

If you watch Monday Night Raw, you see a lot of commercials for junk food, because it's all their fans can afford. Compare that to every 30 seconds of Super Bowl ad time costing 5 million dollars. We are going to witness the sale of WWE in our lifetimes; when Vince dies and Stephanie runs it completely into the ground, it'll get sold and go the way of horse racing. I am a very good predictor of markets, and probably do more investing than any other Board 8er. I would put a lot of short stocks on WWE and bet on it failing long term, because a company that only reports earnings via OIBDA is doomed.

But back to actual fighting instead of that fake stuff that people don't care about right now -- seriously, go on Twitter right now and then go find the last time WWE had multiple trends of over 300-500K mentions, if it even exists. We have social metrics now, which is why people who only argue in feels are easily laughed at and not taken seriously. Anyone who claims UFC has manufactured drama from UFC 1 is lying or ignorant. There is literally no other explanation for it. Jak is very clearly the kind of guy who has never been in a fight, googles old MMA results, and thinks the Gracies invented the sport but forgets to check their fighting style when he pretends to fit in at the adult table.

I make *money* being right about stuff, and lots of it. Guys like Jak talk about things with "feels" on social media 12+ hours a day and have to act like pseudo experts in conversations not remotely relevant to the topic at hand. WWE fans are triggered beyond belief right now because they are not capable of their sport getting this attention anymore.
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ScareChan
10/07/18 1:38:55 AM
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Oh, Im not sure then

The bus thing seemed very staged though to me. I felt like the court stuff was because actual damages occured

like the amount of camera angles and coverage was a little too much to me
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scarletspeed7
10/07/18 1:39:55 AM
#92:


What a weird copypasta.
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ScareChan
10/07/18 1:40:09 AM
#93:


davidponte posted...
What are the odds that they both actually show up to the post-fight press conference?


didnt know this was a thing

watching now!
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voltch
10/07/18 1:40:13 AM
#94:


Conor also has the Bellator incident in his pocket.

This just seems to be the first time his team faced a crew as crazy as his.
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AheadOfTheCurve
10/07/18 1:40:29 AM
#95:


Jakyl25 posted...
ScareChan posted...
davidponte posted...
So I'm hearing talk on Twitter of charges, VISA losses, suspensions, etc.

But Conor can throw at dolly at a bus and come out unscathed? Obviously this is a little different, but the same idea of assault is there.


interesting ninja

I believe the difference is that no one actually got hurt with conner it was just destruction of property?


No, Conor actually did hurt people. Fighters on that bus got cut by the glass window he broke by throwing shit.

^this is what someone with zero street smarts that's never been in a fight would say

This is what someone with actual experience in both knows: https://twitter.com/VirtuosoSports/status/1048806239180873728

That's why guys like Jak are not taken seriously. Fake as a 3 dollar bill.
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Eddv
10/07/18 1:40:35 AM
#96:


davidponte posted...
What are the odds that they both actually show up to the post-fight press conference?


100%
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davidponte
10/07/18 1:40:39 AM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
What a weird copypasta.

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ExThaNemesis
10/07/18 1:41:03 AM
#98:


AheadOfTheCurve posted...
Who gives a shit about wrestling fans right now?

Proceeds to yammer yammer yammer for two paragraphs about wrestling fans.


Clearly you do, sunshine.
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scarletspeed7
10/07/18 1:42:00 AM
#99:


Also, I'm actually looking forward to this post-fight conference.
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AheadOfTheCurve
10/07/18 1:43:12 AM
#100:


Jakyl25 posted...
Like, the storyline of UFC 1 was a tournament designed to determine the best martial art, organized by the Gracies, who put their smallest dude in there instead of the best Gracies to prove the superiority of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Ken Shamrock was the only other legit quality fighter in there, and Royce predictably was still able to tap him.

They deliberately didnt put anyone in there who was a threat to him.


CALLED IT.

TOLD YOU SO.

VINDICATED.


AheadOfTheCurve posted...
There is literally no other explanation for it. Jak is very clearly the kind of guy who has never been in a fight, googles old MMA results, and thinks the Gracies invented the sport but forgets to check their fighting style when he pretends to fit in at the adult table.


##Vote: Jak

Faker than a botox injection.
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