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RchHomieQuanChi 10/01/18 4:41:28 AM #51: |
ModLogic posted...
not that these people want "fair pay" to begin with since their skillset equates to min wage. The concept of someone being paid based solely off of the perceived value of their "skillset" is something that only ever comes up if we're talking about businesses exploiting their workers, and doesn't make sense in literally any other context. Like, the actual customers don't give a fuck about how "skilled" you are, all they care about is the quality of your service and the value it provides to their life. It's only businesses that tell workers they need to be x amount of skilled in order to earn y amount of dollars. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EzeDoesIt 10/01/18 4:43:23 AM #52: |
Youre actually forcing them to work minimum wage. Their employer has to pay them minimum if their tips dont go above that. With tips they can make a lot more than min. wage.
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LimboTraveller 10/01/18 5:08:12 AM #53: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
ModLogic posted...not that these people want "fair pay" to begin with since their skillset equates to min wage. so...you just rephrase what modlogic said? Their skillsets sure are mediocre ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crazyman93 10/01/18 5:15:39 AM #54: |
nicklebro posted...
Zikten posted...nicklebro posted...Who says they dont deserve it? Thing is, they're paid the full legal requirement, so if they want more, they have to earn it, meaning provide actual good service. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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elysdeon 10/01/18 5:19:52 AM #55: |
I make $13.50 an hour plus around $4 an hour or so in tips. I think that's pretty good for a guy that was a NEET for 7 years
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bknight 10/01/18 5:35:51 AM #56: |
When I go to the strip club and sit at the stage, I don't tip because dancing for tips is exploitation, they should at least get paid $15/hr to dance and get naked for my viewing pleasure, then I get kicked out by the bouncers for harrasing the girls when I try to tell them my not tipping is the way I show them that I respect them and that they should demand a living wage.
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Nidhoggr 10/01/18 5:37:08 AM #57: |
Only reason I tip is so that they don't spit in my food next time I go there. Otherwise I wouldn't tip.
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SaithSayer 10/01/18 5:39:35 AM #58: |
They should get an hourly wage that stays the same no matter what.
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AlisLandale 10/01/18 5:55:22 AM #59: |
Heres the deal. In America, theres a custom of tipping, which most people do, for better or worse.
One or two people on gamefaqs.gamespot.com arent going to influence this custom by being cheap. Because despite your best (read: no) efforts, the servers still come out ahead every night in tips. In fact, by going to the restaurant at all, youre supporting this business model because they get your money regardless. So just stop the mental gymnastics to try and justify being cheap and just admit you are. Or stop being lazy and actually organize a protest. Maybe if a couple thousand people announce a protest and all go to eat and dont tip on the same days at the same time, you might actually raise some awareness. You wont though, because youre too scared to put yourself out there without the anonymity of the internet protecting you lol --- Sigs are for losers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ving_Rhames 10/01/18 6:04:12 AM #60: |
OP sucks at keeping it real. He just won't admit that he doesn't tip because he's a cheapskate.
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SaithSayer 10/01/18 6:06:19 AM #61: |
Ving_Rhames posted...
OP sucks at keeping it real. He just won't admit that he doesn't tip because he's a cheapskate. When you know their boss uses it as an excuse to pay them less than they should be paid AND you're paying for food, I don't see any reason to dip back into your wallet and give it to the waiter/waitress other than "Here. Sorry your boss sucks." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EpicMickeyDrew 10/01/18 7:11:55 AM #62: |
@nicklebro posted...
EpicMickeyDrew posted... >Not following a custom of a foreign country >Not giving money to people who are richer than me "You are a bad person" Please explain the reasoning here. --- Just how, pray tell, does your dick "take life"? How could a dick take a life? - XciteMe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SailorGoon 10/01/18 7:20:14 AM #63: |
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Looked gf 10/01/18 7:25:04 AM #64: |
I like how people have been brainwashed into thinking paying customers are the cheap ones for not tipping, when you have employers who don't provide a proper wage in the first place
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karlpilkington4 10/01/18 7:36:30 AM #65: |
You dont tip the UPS driver, retail workers, the mailman, plumbers, etc. They certainly provide a service at the same level or greater than a waiter simply bringing out food and smiling at you. Its a stupid double standard, and tipping is dumb to begin with. It's just sheep who will claim some " its a custom lulz if you dont do it ur cheapz", and use herd mentality to justify it.
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FrisbeeDude 10/01/18 7:41:16 AM #66: |
karlpilkington4 posted...
You dont tip the UPS driver, retail workers, the mailman, plumbers, etc. They certainly provide a service at the same level or greater than a waiter simply bringing out food and smiling at you. Its a stupid double standard, and tipping is dumb to begin with. It's just sheep who will claim some " its a custom lulz if you dont do it ur cheapz", and use herd mentality to justify it. the neckbeard is strong in this one --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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karlpilkington4 10/01/18 7:43:18 AM #67: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...You dont tip the UPS driver, retail workers, the mailman, plumbers, etc. They certainly provide a service at the same level or greater than a waiter simply bringing out food and smiling at you. Its a stupid double standard, and tipping is dumb to begin with. It's just sheep who will claim some " its a custom lulz if you dont do it ur cheapz", and use herd mentality to justify it. I'm clean shaved, but thanks for your overwhelming impressive counter argument. --- Is this the Krusty Krab? No this is Patrick!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rioushu 10/01/18 7:45:51 AM #68: |
People still biting on this topic? Sheesh.
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MrToothHasYou 10/01/18 8:41:00 AM #69: |
REMercsChamp posted...
Tipping culture just gives a green light for employers to exploit their employees. "It's okay if I pay them $2 an hour, because tips!". I won't be supporting this practice. So you boycott places who don't pay their employees a fair wage. --- http://weareontherun.bandcamp.com ^^^^^ HEY! ^^^ LISTEN! ^^^^^ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Learning 10/01/18 9:29:23 AM #70: |
LimboTraveller posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...ModLogic posted...not that these people want "fair pay" to begin with since their skillset equates to min wage. Jesus Christ you're dumb. --- Backup Conflict alt for the next week ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 10/01/18 9:49:37 AM #71: |
I'm sure it has been brought up, but if you want to make an impact you should stop eating at sit down restaurants period. Stiffing the bottom of the totem pole workers doesn't impact the owners bottom line at all, it just makes you a cheap ass.
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BlockWatcher 10/01/18 9:59:34 AM #72: |
REMercsChamp posted...
Tipping culture just gives a green light for employers to exploit their employees. "It's okay if I pay them $2 an hour, because tips!". I won't be supporting this practice. Why support the employers by going to the establishment ? --- 1 John 2: 15-17 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LimboTraveller 10/01/18 10:08:36 AM #73: |
Learning posted...
LimboTraveller posted...RchHomieQuanChi posted...ModLogic posted...not that these people want "fair pay" to begin with since their skillset equates to min wage. thats your only argument? give me proof where i was wrong ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Oatcakes 10/01/18 10:23:55 AM #76: |
I find it cheap of the company not paying their employees a wage they can live on.
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Antifar 10/01/18 10:31:08 AM #77: |
fenderbender321 posted...
Tipping is more effective at ensuring servers make decent money than a system where people rely on the restaurant to pay a higher wage. Instead you make them rely on the whims of other capricious assholes. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 10/01/18 10:34:23 AM #78: |
Antifar posted...
fenderbender321 posted...Tipping is more effective at ensuring servers make decent money than a system where people rely on the restaurant to pay a higher wage. This pretty much covers it, yeah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 10/01/18 1:28:50 PM #80: |
Also, one thing that people don't seem to understand:
The price for the food is exactly that: the price of the food. The tip is what you pay for the convenience of having food brought out to you and having someone to constantly refill your drinks. It's like complaining about having to pay a delivery fee when you order food. If you don't like it, go eat at a place without servers. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 10/01/18 1:39:04 PM #81: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The price for the food is exactly that: the price of the food. The tip is what you pay for the convenience of having food brought out to you and having someone to constantly refill your drinks. It's like complaining about having to pay a delivery fee when you order food. Then, you know, charge a table-service fee, rather than leaving it ambiguous. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 10/01/18 1:40:26 PM #82: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...The price for the food is exactly that: the price of the food. The tip is what you pay for the convenience of having food brought out to you and having someone to constantly refill your drinks. It's like complaining about having to pay a delivery fee when you order food. Then you'd just complain about having to pay $5.00 across the board regardless of how good the service was. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 10/01/18 1:41:48 PM #83: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...RchHomieQuanChi posted...The price for the food is exactly that: the price of the food. The tip is what you pay for the convenience of having food brought out to you and having someone to constantly refill your drinks. It's like complaining about having to pay a delivery fee when you order food. No. It'll just be all carryout, all the time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Oatcakes 10/01/18 2:03:09 PM #85: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Also, one thing that people don't seem to understand: You aren't just paying for the literal food. You're also paying to eat in the building, for it to be prepared etc and for the people who own it to make a profit. Do you think restaurant prices are the same as what you would pay in a supermarket? --- F.C. Stokalona https://imgur.com/CJ0dPBq ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 10/01/18 2:05:59 PM #86: |
Oatcakes posted...
You're also paying to eat in the building, for it to be prepared etc and for the people who own it to make a profit. Okay. Not sure how that contradicts what I said. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Snake07 10/01/18 2:06:54 PM #87: |
you don't tip cause you're cheap and don't care if people think you're an asshole. Stop fronting
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Oatcakes 10/01/18 2:07:18 PM #88: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Oatcakes posted...You're also paying to eat in the building, for it to be prepared etc and for the people who own it to make a profit. The part where you said the price for the food was just the price for the food and that tips are for the rest. --- F.C. Stokalona https://imgur.com/CJ0dPBq ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 10/01/18 2:08:57 PM #89: |
Oatcakes posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...Oatcakes posted...You're also paying to eat in the building, for it to be prepared etc and for the people who own it to make a profit. No. I said the tips (a.k.a. the only money going directly to the server) are the fee for the convenience of having it brought out to you while you sit and wait. Nowhere did I mention any of the other stuff you mentioned. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Oatcakes 10/01/18 2:10:48 PM #90: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Also, one thing that people don't seem to understand: I mean, it's right here. --- F.C. Stokalona https://imgur.com/CJ0dPBq ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 10/01/18 2:11:39 PM #91: |
Oatcakes posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...Also, one thing that people don't seem to understand: Having it prepared and cooked kinda goes into the "price of the food".... --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Oatcakes 10/01/18 2:12:52 PM #92: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Oatcakes posted...RchHomieQuanChi posted...Also, one thing that people don't seem to understand: Why does that and not table service? Why are you drawing the line there? --- F.C. Stokalona https://imgur.com/CJ0dPBq ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 10/01/18 2:14:10 PM #94: |
Oatcakes posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...Oatcakes posted...RchHomieQuanChi posted...Also, one thing that people don't seem to understand: Because table service has nothing to do with the actual creation of the meal. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Snake07 10/01/18 2:22:34 PM #95: |
fenderbender321 posted...
TC, you call it worker exploitation. Yet I doubt a single server in the US would trade their tips for an increased wage. I wouldn't have back when I was serving and bartending. No way they would have paid me enough to do those jobs. And if I had no choice but to do those jobs anyway I would of given much less of a shit about making sure customers had a great experience. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Oatcakes 10/01/18 2:23:36 PM #96: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Oatcakes posted...RchHomieQuanChi posted...Oatcakes posted...RchHomieQuanChi posted...Also, one thing that people don't seem to understand: So what you meant to say was, "the price of sourcing the ingredients including delivery to restaurant, preparing the ingredients (compensating the chef) and the cost of the ingredients is the price of sourcing the ingredients including delivery to restaurant, preparing the ingredients (compensating the chef) and the cost of the ingredients." "Price of the food is the price of the food" sounds just like that. --- F.C. Stokalona https://imgur.com/CJ0dPBq ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 10/01/18 2:24:57 PM #97: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Oatcakes posted...RchHomieQuanChi posted...Oatcakes posted...RchHomieQuanChi posted...Also, one thing that people don't seem to understand: So... I can just bring along my own personal concierge to do that? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 10/01/18 2:25:12 PM #98: |
Oatcakes posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...Oatcakes posted...RchHomieQuanChi posted...Oatcakes posted...RchHomieQuanChi posted...Also, one thing that people don't seem to understand: Okay. Not sure what the point of all of this was though. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Oatcakes 10/01/18 2:25:40 PM #99: |
This is all obviously included in the price, as well as paying to sit in a building. Why is one thing separate from the rest?
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ModLogic 10/01/18 3:38:55 PM #100: |
fenderbender321 posted...
TC, you call it worker exploitation. Yet I doubt a single server in the US would trade their tips for an increased wage. of course not. then they wouldn't be able to exploit customers. in this case its the workers doing the exploiting. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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