Current Events > I don't tip anyone - period. It's because I'm against worker exploitation

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Tipping culture just gives a green light for employers to exploit their employees. "It's okay if I pay them $2 an hour, because tips!". I won't be supporting this practice.
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So you're just going to keep allowing it.
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You're not at all helping the workers involved.
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Tipping should be illegal.

So you are going to exploit their service that they provide in expectation of tips to protest employers exploiting their staff. Excellent logic!
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I agree with the TC. It hurts the employees in the short term, but long term, it helps them. If they quit getting tips, then they'll quit and find another line of work which means employers will have to start paying them an hourly wage without relying on the crapshoot of whether or not and how much a customer tips.
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Jackal4 posted...

If they quit getting tips, then they'll quit and find another line of work

I'm not sure that logic checks out
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Jackal4 posted...

I agree with the TC. It hurts the employees in the short term, but long term, it helps them. If they quit getting tips, then they'll quit and find another line of work which means employers will have to start paying them an hourly wage without relying on the crapshoot of whether or not and how much a customer tips.

That's not how it works at all. You guys Are just looking for excuses to be cheap. You're just cheap people, dont act like you care about anyone else.
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Antifar posted...

Jackal4 posted...

If they quit getting tips, then they'll quit and find another line of work

I'm not sure that logic checks out

What like you would stay at a job making that much FUCK no.
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don't ever tip in WA state. by state law, waiters get full pay. but they still beg for tips cause they are greedy and act like they deserve it.

Zikten posted...

don't ever tip in WA state. by state law, waiters get full pay. but they still beg for tips cause they are greedy and act like they deserve it.

this.

also they willingly signed up for rng wage then get upset when rng doesn't go their way and resort to fear mongering and shaming.

"duh u must be cheap dick cus iz dum dum sign up for gamble payz"
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Zikten posted...

don't ever tip in WA state. by state law, waiters get full pay. but they still beg for tips cause they are greedy and act like they deserve it.

Who says they dont deserve it? Why are you such a cheap person?
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nicklebro posted...

Who says they dont deserve it?

they make full pay. and minimum wage is like 10 bucks an hour there. I have had jobs in WA, but I never got tipped....fuck them

Zikten posted...

don't ever tip in WA state. by state law, waiters get full pay. but they still beg for tips cause they are greedy and act like they deserve it.

Thanks for sharing this - this makes me feel even better about not tipping.
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Burgess posted...

Antifar posted...

Jackal4 posted...

If they quit getting tips, then they'll quit and find another line of work

I'm not sure that logic checks out

What like you would stay at a job making that much FUCK no.

There are so many people working low-paying jobs
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While agree that the tipping culture is stupid, I'd still plan on tipping unless you never plan on going to the same place twice.

This is how you shit post, boys. TC is on a roll
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nemu posted...

While agree that the tipping culture is stupid, I'd still plan on tipping unless you never plan on going to the same place twice.

out of fear?
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Zikten posted...

nicklebro posted...

Who says they dont deserve it?

they make full pay. and minimum wage is like 10 bucks an hour there. I have had jobs in WA, but I never got tipped....fuck them

Full pay? Lol you mean minimum wage? Who says they don't deserve more than minimum wage, you seem to think you deserve tips, why do you think you deserve more money than them?

And again, why are you a cheap person? Why be greedy like that?
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nicklebro posted...

Zikten posted...

nicklebro posted...

Who says they dont deserve it?

they make full pay. and minimum wage is like 10 bucks an hour there. I have had jobs in WA, but I never got tipped....fuck them

Full pay? Lol you mean minimum wage? Who says they don't deserve more than minimum wage, you seem to think you deserve tips, why do you think you deserve more money than them?

And again, why are you a cheap person? Why be greedy like that?

Zikten lives off welfare and his parents, he's not greedy, he simply doesn't have the means to pay even more money he doesn't have. So you should check yourself before calling people cheap and greedy when you don't know anything about them
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why is it someone elses issue people are dumb enough to sign up for random pay jobs?
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ModLogic posted...

nemu posted...

While agree that the tipping culture is stupid, I'd still plan on tipping unless you never plan on going to the same place twice.

out of fear?

Pretty much. If he only eats out once in a while, it wouldn't be a big deal to be a cheapass, but they'll remember someone if they go out frequently. Not that anything they would do would be culturally acceptable, but that won't stop it from happening.

glitteringfairy posted...

nicklebro posted...

Zikten posted...

nicklebro posted...

Who says they dont deserve it?

they make full pay. and minimum wage is like 10 bucks an hour there. I have had jobs in WA, but I never got tipped....fuck them

Full pay? Lol you mean minimum wage? Who says they don't deserve more than minimum wage, you seem to think you deserve tips, why do you think you deserve more money than them?

And again, why are you a cheap person? Why be greedy like that?

Zikten lives off welfare and his parents, he's not greedy, he simply doesn't have the means to pay even more money he doesn't have. So you should check yourself before calling people cheap and greedy when you don't know anything about them

Lol well now that I know that about him, it makes him even more cheap and greedy. ModLogic posted...

why is it someone elses issue people are dumb enough to sign up for random pay jobs?

Tipping is part of American culture whether you agree with it or not. People aren't dumb for being waiters and bartenders, you can make quite a bit of money in the right circumstances, far more than most of the people who insult those jobs and act like they're better than people who work them.
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tipping actually originally was anti american culture. it used to be illegal to tip. was seen as bribing. somewhere along the way, it became accepted and then eventually expected and encouraged

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_vivC7c_1k" data-time="

Tipping doesn't exploit the workers, though.
It's exploiting the customer.

Zikten posted...

tipping actually originally was anti american culture. it used to be illegal to tip. was seen as bribing. somewhere along the way, it became accepted and then eventually expected and encouraged

It's part of American culture. In America, we have the word "cheap" to describe the type of person that does things like not tipping. So no matter what your excuse is, if you never tip, you're cheap.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Tipping doesn't exploit the workers, though.
It's exploiting the customer.

Except if we didn't have tipping then prices would have to increase to account for the increased pay. So customers wouldnt be affected much if at all.
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nicklebro posted...

Zikten posted...

tipping actually originally was anti american culture. it used to be illegal to tip. was seen as bribing. somewhere along the way, it became accepted and then eventually expected and encouraged

It's part of American culture. In America, we have the word "cheap" to describe the type of person that does things like not tipping. So no matter what your excuse is, if you never tip, you're cheap.

He likes to live in a past where things like this and separate water fountains were accepted and encouraged.
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You know what I do leave in the tip section on the receipt?

"Get a better job"

Much more valuable than any coins I were to throw at them as if they were beggars on the street
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nicklebro posted...

t's part of American culture

it used to not be. that video explains how tipping used to be literally against the law in america and was considered to be anti american

Zikten posted...

nicklebro posted...

t's part of American culture

it used to not be. that video explains how tipping used to be literally against the law in america and was considered to be anti american

So what? It is now. Slavery and Jim crowe laws used to be part of America, what we were in the past doesn't matter.
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REMercsChamp posted...

You know what I do leave in the tip section on the receipt?

"Get a better job"

Much more valuable than any coins I were to throw at them as if they were beggars on the street

Of they're working at a shitty restaurant then sure, but what about servers and bartenders making a good living? When I worked in Las Vegas I was a server and bartender and made over 70k/year as a 21-22 year old kid with no college degree.
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nicklebro posted...

REMercsChamp posted...

You know what I do leave in the tip section on the receipt?

"Get a better job"

Much more valuable than any coins I were to throw at them as if they were beggars on the street

Of they're working at a shitty restaurant then sure, but what about servers and bartenders making a good living? When I worked in Las Vegas I was a server and bartender and made over 70k/year as a 21-22 year old kid with no college degree.

Why would I donate money to people who make more than me?
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tipping was against the law because it promoted unequal service to citizens. it goes against the spirit of America. just cause it became legal doesn't make it morally right. tipping is immoral

nicklebro posted...

People aren't dumb for being waiters and bartenders, you can make quite a bit of money in the right circumstances,

the "right" circumstances being scamming the customer into tipping either via fear or shaming.

and they are the very definition of dumb if they chose to sign up for RNG then whine when RNG doesn't always go their way. but their simple minds can only ever seem to come to one conclusion. CHEAP. despite the fact the people who are being called "cheap" have no issue paying a set menu price increase.

wonder why tip workers dont want a set pay to begin with eh?
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nicklebro posted...

Zikten posted...

nicklebro posted...

t's part of American culture

it used to not be. that video explains how tipping used to be literally against the law in america and was considered to be anti american

So what? It is now. Slavery and Jim crowe laws used to be part of America, what we were in the past doesn't matter.

Comparing tipping to slavery isn't helping your argument.

Godnorgosh posted...

Am I still the only one who understands TC's gimmick

seriously holy fucking shit people
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EpicMickeyDrew posted...

Why would I donate money to people who make more than me?

Because that's the custom in America. Unless you just don't mind being a cheap person, which it's pretty clear you don't. You don't seem to care about being a good person at all, so stiff away.

Zikten posted...

tipping was against the law because it promoted unequal service to citizens. it goes against the spirit of America. just cause it became legal doesn't make it morally right. tipping is immoral

Sorry but you don't get to decide what's moral and what isn't. American culture has designated tipping as one of our customs and not tipping is considered to be cheap, greedy, immoral, and immature.

Back when tipping wasn't the custom, you'd have a point. But that's not how it is. To quote Marlo, "You want it one way, but it's the other way."
You just gotta learn to deal with that.

ModLogic posted...

nicklebro posted...

People aren't dumb for being waiters and bartenders, you can make quite a bit of money in the right circumstances,

the "right" circumstances being scamming the customer into tipping either via fear or shaming.

and they are the very definition of dumb if they chose to sign up for RNG then whine when RNG doesn't always go their way. but their simple minds can only ever seem to come to one conclusion. CHEAP. despite the fact the people who are being called "cheap" have no issue paying a set menu price increase.

wonder why tip workers dont want a set pay to begin with eh?

Or working at a high end restaurant that people like you can't afford to eat at, and then getting tips through good service and charisma. Lol we never threaten guests into tipping us, because thankfully most people arent like you and are actually decent people. Plus they're not broke boys so they don't have trouble leaving an extra 20%

And no, being a waiter or bartender doesn't make you dumb, you're allowed to complain about something even if you signed up for it. Most people complain about their jobs, don't be ridiculous. Plus like I said, most people are decent and tip, so we don't have to deal with people like you all that often.

Plenty of tip workers do want a set pay, idk why you'd assume they don't. There are some restaurants that do that and actually don't allow tips. Idk why you'd be ok with paying a set menu price but are not ok with tipping, even tho you'd end up paying the same amount anyways. Really for cheap people like you, you should be happy America has a tipping custom, it means you can be cheap and sace a few dollars every time you go out to eat.

knutjob posted...

Comparing tipping to slavery isn't helping your argument.

I'm comparing tipping being illegal to slavery being legal, not tipping to slavery. So it actually does help my argument. What used to be the law doesn't have any bearing on what the law should be now.

Delirious_Beard posted...

Godnorgosh posted...

Am I still the only one who understands TC's gimmick

seriously holy fucking shit people

It's still fun tho.
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I always tip. I give high quality tips on how to improve your self-esteem and be a more confident person. No exploitation involved in informing people of how to better themselves so they can elevate beyond their present mediocrity
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Sharashaska posted...

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remember when that guy was relevant before having some bizarre meltdowns
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nicklebro posted...

Back when tipping wasn't the custom, you'd have a point.

so when slavery was the custom, I'd have a point if I said slavery was moral?

Zikten posted...

nicklebro posted...

Back when tipping wasn't the custom, you'd have a point.

so when slavery was the custom, I'd have a point if I said slavery was moral?

Slavery isn't a custom.

You do realize you're comparing leaving your server some extra money for good service and treating human beings like property right? I mean I know you hate tipping because youre cheap but do you really think that tipping and slavery are interchangeable?
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nicklebro posted...

ok with paying a set menu price but are not ok with tipping

because paying a set price means you don't have to guess if it's the entitled fool who expects 20% or the entitled fool who expects 25% serving you today. but i don't expect you to be able to understand this.

"you're ok with paying increased menu prices. you're cheap."
"tip workers do get a set pay. you're cheap."

no wonder the likes of you are stuck in a no skilled shitty job you defend with such desperation

Zikten posted...

nicklebro posted...

Back when tipping wasn't the custom, you'd have a point.

so when slavery was the custom, I'd have a point if I said slavery was moral?

you're talking to a guy who can only reach 1 conclusion, "you're cheap". don't ask him hard questions.
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You had a topic not to long ago where you said you make $0 after your wage garnishments, so I'm not sure you should be eating out anyway.
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Antifar posted...

Jackal4 posted...

If they quit getting tips, then they'll quit and find another line of work

I'm not sure that logic checks out

it actually does. You need to look at this issue at long term.

TC is smart

"hurr durr I dun tip because they should pay their workers well anyway!"

Well....they don't and uhh.....those workers still kinda need to get paid.

If you actually gave a shit and weren't just giving an excuse to be a cheap ass, you'd stop going to those restaurants entirely. As it stands now, you're just going there, exploiting their service and then actively making sure that the only ones who get fair pay are the owners that don't pay their employees in the first place.
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so who's fault is that? the rotting core is that people sign up for these jobs. not that these people want "fair pay" to begin with since their skillset equates to min wage. so they rely on scamming ignorant customers.
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