Poll of the Day > I support the 2nd amendment, but...

Topic List
Page List: 1, 2
GAMERJET
09/25/18 5:41:11 AM
#1:


the more I'm around people who carry visible firearms, the more I realize the majority of these people shouldn't have access to firearms in the first place. The reason I say this is based on first seeing these persons entering a business where I work displaying their visible firearms and constantly setting off our EAS (Electronic Alert System) upon entry, and then speaking with these persons and listening to some of the things that come out of their mouths.

I'm not a certified doctor, but I can tell you that a majority of these persons should not have access to these weapons. I hear a counterpoint a lot of 'well, they could save your life in the event of a robbery'. Yeah, but they are also just as likely to hit an innocent while trying to play hero.

I'm really just venting/thinking out loud after interacting with another one of these persons today.
I support the 2nd amendment, but I'm struggling to support these persons that shouldn't have this right.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow
09/25/18 5:50:53 AM
#2:


You can't make everyone happy.
... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive
09/25/18 6:09:08 AM
#3:


A hell of a lot of people probably shouldn't have access to cars or the Internet either.

Unfortunately, it's not an easy to solve, all-or-nothing issue, no matter how much some people would like it to be.


---
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 6:19:45 AM
#4:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
A hell of a lot of people probably shouldn't have access to cars or the Internet either.

Unfortunately, it's not an easy to solve, all-or-nothing issue, no matter how much some people would like it to be.


That's a pretty solid arguement for a caste system. Some people can't be trusted with cars, guns or the internet, so they should rank below the general population and have more regulations over their lives.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan
09/25/18 6:34:31 AM
#5:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
Unfortunately, it's not an easy to solve, all-or-nothing issue, no matter how much some people would like it to be.

Very true. It's easier to say "ban all X" or "let everyone have X" than to figure out a system that balances needs with wants.

Tbh, gun crime is overdramatizied. If people had any concept of how big 325,000,000 people is as a number compared to the 34,000 deaths caused annually from guns, it seems much smaller than it is. Then you also have to consider that the majority of gun crime sticks to certain areas. It's not a disease spreading to rural Kansas in your town of 4,000 people.
... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree
09/25/18 6:46:57 AM
#6:


I fully support the 2nd amendment but I will admit it is a bit too easy to get a firearm in some states.

It should be mandatory to take a class such as a CCW. If you complete the class with a passing grade, go nuts and purchase a fully auto silenced p90.
---
A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P.
Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3
... Copied to Clipboard!
MisterXiado
09/25/18 8:30:39 AM
#7:


The overwhelming majority of firearm deaths are suicides. Following that is gang on gang shootings. Murders outside of gang BS are comparatively few, and fewer still are deaths caused by carelessness. You are statistically more likely to die in your bathtub, shower, or swimming pool (not even combined, choose any one) than to be killed by a gun.
With that out of the way, everyone who is not a felon, abuser, drug addict, illegal alien, or a confirmed danger to the public, should have at least one gun. As has been said many a time before now, an armed society is a polite society. If everyone on the street COULD have a pistol on them, then mugging people becomes a bit too risky. Why should women and the elderly be expected to outrun or outfight a criminal who could bench press them? Should everyone sit around waiting to become another statistic? There have been several times where I had needed a gun, and didn't have one. Didn't end well, either. Even my local police explicitly told me that they prefer the law-abiding public to not only be armed, but to leave them with only one side of the story in the case of a break-in/mugging/home invasion.
---
The More You Know
... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead
09/25/18 8:36:59 AM
#8:


Everyone should have guns for hands

Because without fingers they could never pull the triggers
---
If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood
... Copied to Clipboard!
What_The_Chris
09/25/18 8:48:14 AM
#9:


it's almost as if guns were never the problem, but lack of mental care
---
2018 St. Louis Cardinals are 84-69
... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone
09/25/18 8:49:54 AM
#10:


Unfortunately its not an easy to solve all or nothing issue.

Weird because we are the only western country that hasnt figured it out. Are other countries that much smarter that they have come up with super advanced solutions? Or, now hear me out, maybe it is an easy to solve issue but we refuse to look at the easy solution because the NRA (which helped Russian spies infiltrate the top levels of American politics) is an incredibly powerful lobbying group which has led us to believe its hard to solve.
---
Annoy a Conservative, punch a Nazi.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 8:54:08 AM
#11:


kangolcone posted...
Unfortunately its not an easy to solve all or nothing issue.

Weird because we are the only western country that hasnt figured it out. Are other countries that much smarter that they have come up with super advanced solutions? Or, now hear me out, maybe it is an easy to solve issue but we refuse to look at the easy solution because the NRA (which helped Russian spies infiltrate the top levels of American politics) is an incredibly powerful lobbying group which has led us to believe its hard to solve.

Other western countries have firearms allowed too.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan
09/25/18 8:55:27 AM
#12:


MisterXiado posted...
There have been several times where I had needed a gun, and didn't have one.

You're alive, so I doubt that. In the case that someone else died, I'm really sorry and feel awful now.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 8:56:24 AM
#13:


GanglyKhan posted...
You're alive, so I doubt that.

lol dat propaganda

GanglyKhan posted...
In the case that someone else died, I'm really sorry and feel awful now.

Thugs gotta get shot.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone
09/25/18 8:59:24 AM
#14:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
kangolcone posted...
Unfortunately its not an easy to solve all or nothing issue.

Weird because we are the only western country that hasnt figured it out. Are other countries that much smarter that they have come up with super advanced solutions? Or, now hear me out, maybe it is an easy to solve issue but we refuse to look at the easy solution because the NRA (which helped Russian spies infiltrate the top levels of American politics) is an incredibly powerful lobbying group which has led us to believe its hard to solve.

Other western countries have firearms allowed too.


And yet they all have significantly less gun violence. Its almost as if they have additional regulations that they have all implemented which are lacking in the US.
---
Annoy a Conservative, punch a Nazi.
... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone
09/25/18 9:01:43 AM
#15:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
GanglyKhan posted...
You're alive, so I doubt that.

lol dat propaganda

GanglyKhan posted...
In the case that someone else died, I'm really sorry and feel awful now.

Thugs gotta get shot.


If you were actually interested in shooting/apprehending/getting rid of bad guys, you would have joined the military or a LEO. But those would be far more dangerous than posting your willingness to kill on the internet.
---
Annoy a Conservative, punch a Nazi.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 9:01:58 AM
#16:


kangolcone posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
kangolcone posted...
Unfortunately its not an easy to solve all or nothing issue.

Weird because we are the only western country that hasnt figured it out. Are other countries that much smarter that they have come up with super advanced solutions? Or, now hear me out, maybe it is an easy to solve issue but we refuse to look at the easy solution because the NRA (which helped Russian spies infiltrate the top levels of American politics) is an incredibly powerful lobbying group which has led us to believe its hard to solve.

Other western countries have firearms allowed too.


And yet they all have significantly less gun violence. Its almost as if they have additional regulations that they have all implemented which are lacking in the US.

The UK has free healthcare, Germany has free education, the US has a syatem actively encouraging people to flip and kill all the people fucking them over at every level. The US has cultural issues, not necessarily legal ones.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 9:03:59 AM
#17:


kangolcone posted...
If you were actually interested in shooting/apprehending/getting rid of bad guys, you would have joined the military or a LEO. But those would be far more dangerous than posting your willingness to kill on the internet.

The military shoots political targets, and my police selectively enforces law to appease political agendas and both of those make me sick. I will fuck up the thugs who want to fuck up my life, law be damned.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone
09/25/18 9:18:04 AM
#18:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
kangolcone posted...
If you were actually interested in shooting/apprehending/getting rid of bad guys, you would have joined the military or a LEO. But those would be far more dangerous than posting your willingness to kill on the internet.

The military shoots political targets, and my police selectively enforces law to appease political agendas and both of those make me sick. I will fuck up the thugs who want to fuck up my life, law be damned.


Using profanity online is as close as you will ever get to confronting thugs.
---
Annoy a Conservative, punch a Nazi.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 9:19:20 AM
#19:


kangolcone posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
kangolcone posted...
If you were actually interested in shooting/apprehending/getting rid of bad guys, you would have joined the military or a LEO. But those would be far more dangerous than posting your willingness to kill on the internet.

The military shoots political targets, and my police selectively enforces law to appease political agendas and both of those make me sick. I will fuck up the thugs who want to fuck up my life, law be damned.


Using profanity online is as close as you will ever get to confronting thugs.

k bro lol
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone
09/25/18 9:22:49 AM
#20:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
kangolcone posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
kangolcone posted...
If you were actually interested in shooting/apprehending/getting rid of bad guys, you would have joined the military or a LEO. But those would be far more dangerous than posting your willingness to kill on the internet.

The military shoots political targets, and my police selectively enforces law to appease political agendas and both of those make me sick. I will fuck up the thugs who want to fuck up my life, law be damned.


Using profanity online is as close as you will ever get to confronting thugs.

k bro lol


Lets hear the stories about all the thugs youve fucked up. I could use some light fiction to read this morning.
---
Annoy a Conservative, punch a Nazi.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 9:29:28 AM
#21:


kangolcone posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
kangolcone posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
kangolcone posted...
If you were actually interested in shooting/apprehending/getting rid of bad guys, you would have joined the military or a LEO. But those would be far more dangerous than posting your willingness to kill on the internet.

The military shoots political targets, and my police selectively enforces law to appease political agendas and both of those make me sick. I will fuck up the thugs who want to fuck up my life, law be damned.


Using profanity online is as close as you will ever get to confronting thugs.

k bro lol


Lets hear the stories about all the thugs youve fucked up. I could use some light fiction to read this morning.

Seeing the position you're coming in from, I don't see any point.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone
09/25/18 9:44:11 AM
#22:


The point is that I will be entertained by your fictional accounts of your encounters with various forms of thuggery.
---
Annoy a Conservative, punch a Nazi.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 9:49:36 AM
#23:


kangolcone posted...
The point is that I will be entertained by your fictional accounts of your encounters with various forms of thuggery.

I'm not here to entertain the fool, that's your job.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone
09/25/18 10:00:01 AM
#24:


You couldn't fool your mother on the foolingest day of your life if you had an electrified fooling machine.
---
Annoy a Conservative, punch a Nazi.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 10:08:53 AM
#25:


There you go, proving my point.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone
09/25/18 10:15:52 AM
#26:


By quoting the Simpsons?

Come on man. Just one story about how you bravely stood up to a low life criminal. Just one.
---
Annoy a Conservative, punch a Nazi.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 10:23:37 AM
#27:


Fine, here's an example, though I don't expect much from you.

A little bitch thought he could drop kick me as I was walking home at night, I turned around, grabbed his foot and he landed on his back. My first instinct was to get on top of him and start choking him out, pressing down on his neck with my forearm. Unfortunately he had someone else with him, who came over, kicked me off him and they proceeded to kick the shit out of me as I shouted obscenities at them and clawed at their legs determined to fucking kill them. After a few minutes a cyclist came past and they ran.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone
09/25/18 10:28:48 AM
#28:


Idk why you were so hesitant to share that. You sound like a total bad ass.
---
Annoy a Conservative, punch a Nazi.
... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420
09/25/18 10:30:15 AM
#29:


Hahahahahahahahahaha!
---
"Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18
PSN - SunWuKung420
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 10:30:21 AM
#30:


Sounds like an actual incident, dunnit? If I had a knife I would have killed him and got away, if I had a gun then at least one animal would have been put down.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
#31
Post #31 was unavailable or deleted.
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 10:31:49 AM
#32:


America_Dude posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
I will fuck up the thugs who want to fuck up my life, law be damned.


Kyuubi4269 posted...
they proceeded to kick the shit out of me as I shouted obscenities at them and clawed at their legs


Your definition of fucking someone up is the same as Wimp Los...

It's like you're at a disadvantage in a 2v1 ambush, but okay.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420
09/25/18 10:37:17 AM
#33:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's like you're at a disadvantage in a 2v1 ambush, but okay.


Only when you think you can fight but can't.

To quote Ra's al Ghul - "You have sacrificed sure footing for a killing stroke."
---
"Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18
PSN - SunWuKung420
... Copied to Clipboard!
#34
Post #34 was unavailable or deleted.
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 10:46:38 AM
#35:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's like you're at a disadvantage in a 2v1 ambush, but okay.


Only when you think you can fight but can't.

To quote Ra's al Ghul - "You have sacrificed sure footing for a killing stroke."

This may surprise you, but I didn't think to cite combative strategy when caught off-guard. My instinct turned out to not be ideal, but were there not a second guy, the first was in no position to escape.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420
09/25/18 10:47:48 AM
#36:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
I didn't think to cite combative strategy when caught off-guard.


2 more reasons why you don't actually know how to fight.
---
"Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18
PSN - SunWuKung420
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 10:58:04 AM
#37:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
I didn't think to cite combative strategy when caught off-guard.


2 more reasons why you don't actually know how to fight.

Let's talk about your culinary kerfuffles, I assume you're actually a ninja chef?
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan
09/25/18 11:00:25 AM
#38:


shrekcringephoto.gif
... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420
09/25/18 11:01:23 AM
#39:


Clearly, you only know how to deflect on the internet.
---
"Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18
PSN - SunWuKung420
... Copied to Clipboard!
orlouge82
09/25/18 11:03:23 AM
#40:


Before we make any more comparisons between guns and cars, let's first require that gun owners carry insurance like many states do car owners.
---
"If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error." -John Kenneth Galbraith
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 11:04:20 AM
#41:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Clearly, you only know how to deflect on the internet.

Says the guy who upon being questioned on his claimed combat knowledge, immediately changes the subject.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 11:05:07 AM
#42:


orlouge82 posted...
Before we make any more comparisons between guns and cars, let's first require that gun owners carry insurance like many states do car owners.

You can own a high performance car, you can't own a high performance gun.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
#43
Post #43 was unavailable or deleted.
SunWuKung420
09/25/18 11:08:04 AM
#44:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Clearly, you only know how to deflect on the internet.

Says the guy who upon being questioned on his claimed combat knowledge, immediately changes the subject.


I'm going to send your a new pair of bracelets of victory. Your current pair is all scuffed up, probably due to kicks and the ground.
---
"Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18
PSN - SunWuKung420
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 11:14:32 AM
#45:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Clearly, you only know how to deflect on the internet.

Says the guy who upon being questioned on his claimed combat knowledge, immediately changes the subject.


I'm going to send your a new pair of bracelets of victory. Your current pair is all scuffed up, probably due to kicks and the ground.

I imagine all of your injuries have been self-inlicted.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420
09/25/18 11:17:20 AM
#46:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Clearly, you only know how to deflect on the internet.

Says the guy who upon being questioned on his claimed combat knowledge, immediately changes the subject.


I'm going to send your a new pair of bracelets of victory. Your current pair is all scuffed up, probably due to kicks and the ground.

I imagine all of your injuries have been self-inlicted.


Just remember, your imagination led you to believe you could fight, so you may want hold off on using it too much.
---
"Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18
PSN - SunWuKung420
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 11:20:12 AM
#47:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Clearly, you only know how to deflect on the internet.

Says the guy who upon being questioned on his claimed combat knowledge, immediately changes the subject.


I'm going to send your a new pair of bracelets of victory. Your current pair is all scuffed up, probably due to kicks and the ground.

I imagine all of your injuries have been self-inlicted.


Just remember, your imagination led you to believe you could fight, so you may want hold off on using it too much.

Uh, I did fight, and dominated my attacker on instinct. You can't even fight off a fat bitch desperate to get hitched to the first guy who'll take her.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl
09/25/18 11:21:49 AM
#48:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
ParanoidObsessive posted...
A hell of a lot of people probably shouldn't have access to cars or the Internet either.

Unfortunately, it's not an easy to solve, all-or-nothing issue, no matter how much some people would like it to be.


That's a pretty solid arguement for a caste system. Some people can't be trusted with cars, guns or the internet, so they should rank below the general population and have more regulations over their lives.


Given what your online postings reveal about your mental state, you'd probably be assigned to said lower caste. You've got a whole lot of pent-up aggression there, dude.
---
This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269
09/25/18 11:25:06 AM
#49:


lol "I don't like your attitude, you must be a god damn lesser!"

Yeah, this is why you're not in charge of anything.
---
Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
InfestedAdam
09/25/18 11:27:29 AM
#50:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
That's a pretty solid arguement for a caste system. Some people can't be trusted with cars, guns or the internet, so they should rank below the general population and have more regulations over their lives.

If India is an example of how potentially bad the caste system is, I'd rather deal with folks who shouldn't be driving, on the internet, etc. being behind a wheel, monitor, etc. Still, I'm not entirely against what you're suggesting but feel there's better ways to encourage better behavior among these individuals.
---
"You must gather your party before venturing forth"
"Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!"
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1, 2