Poll of the Day > Critics blast Trump for endorsing white-nationalist S. Africa conspiracy theory

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FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/24/18 2:19:39 PM #1:	President Trumps promotion of a white-nationalist conspiracy theory involving South Africa prompted fierce backlash there Thursday and fresh criticism in the United States that he is compromising American foreign policy to stoke his far-right political base. Former U.S. diplomats and South African leaders denounced Trumps declaration in a tweet late Wednesday that he had instructed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to monitor the large scale killing of white farmers and the governments expropriations of their land. White-nationalist groups have for years spread false claims about the murder rates, assertions that have been widely debunked. Local police data shows the number of people murdered on farms has dropped by half over the past two decades from 140 in 2001-2002 to 74 in 2016-2017, according to the Associated Press. Trumps tweet appeared to come in response to a segment on Fox News in which host Tucker Carlson railed against a plan by South Africas governing party to pursue constitutional changes allowing the government to redistribute land without compensating the owners. The measure is designed to redress racial inequalities that have persisted for nearly a quarter-century after the end of apartheid in 1994. White nationalists in the United States and South Africa, where a fringe group called Afriforum has advanced the conspiracy theory, hailed the presidents remarks. David Duke, a former Ku Klux Klan leader, thanked Trump on Twitter and tweeted an image of a white woman holding a sign reading Stop white genocide. Mike Peinovich, a far-right podcast host, called Trumps endorsement very big and said that this is how we slowly chip away at the all-consuming anti-white discourse. Critics lambasted the president for endorsing the conspiracy theory to his 54 million Twitter followers. Patrick Gaspard, who served as U.S. ambassador to South Africa under President Barack Obama, noted that this was the first time Trump had mentioned Africa on Twitter since he took office. He uses the occasion to lift a white-supremacist meme from the darkest place he can find, Gaspard, now president of Open Society Foundations, said in an interview. So many of my friends in South Africa are bewildered that a modern president of the United States, instead of leaning into issues of constitutionalism and jurisprudence, lifts up these themes. Its dangerous and poisoned. Trump faced an intense backlash for saying last summer that a white-supremacist rally in Charlottesville, where a counterprotester was killed, featured some very fine people on both sides. In January, he sparked more outrage when he complained to lawmakers in a private meeting at the White House that U.S. immigration law offered protections for people from shithole countries, referring to Haiti, El Salvador and some African nations. The presidents tweet about South Africa was his latest bid to signal common cause with nationalist movements abroad, including in Europe, where Trump and his top aides have expressed solidarity with populist governments pursuing anti-immigration agendas. Trump has not visited Africa since taking office, although first lady Melania Trump announced this week that she will visit the continent in October for her first major solo trip. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:907473700] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><quote>President Trumps promotion of a white-nationalist conspiracy theory involving South Africa prompted fierce backlash there Thursday and fresh criticism in the United States that he is compromising American foreign policy to stoke his far-right political base. Former U.S. diplomats and South African leaders denounced Trumps declaration in a tweet late Wednesday that he had instructed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to monitor the large scale killing of white farmers and the governments expropriations of their land. White-nationalist groups have for years spread false claims about the murder rates, assertions that have been widely debunked. Local police data shows the number of people murdered on farms has dropped by half over the past two decades from 140 in 2001-2002 to 74 in 2016-2017, according to the Associated Press. Trumps tweet appeared to come in response to a segment on Fox News in which host Tucker Carlson railed against a plan by South Africas governing party to pursue constitutional changes allowing the government to redistribute land without compensating the owners. The measure is designed to redress racial inequalities that have persisted for nearly a quarter-century after the end of apartheid in 1994. White nationalists in the United States and South Africa, where a fringe group called Afriforum has advanced the conspiracy theory, hailed the presidents remarks. David Duke, a former Ku Klux Klan leader, thanked Trump on Twitter and tweeted an image of a white woman holding a sign reading Stop white genocide. Mike Peinovich, a far-right podcast host, called Trumps endorsement very big and said that this is how we slowly chip away at the all-consuming anti-white discourse. Critics lambasted the president for endorsing the conspiracy theory to his 54 million Twitter followers. Patrick Gaspard, who served as U.S. ambassador to South Africa under President Barack Obama, noted that this was the first time Trump had mentioned Africa on Twitter since he took office. He uses the occasion to lift a white-supremacist meme from the darkest place he can find, Gaspard, now president of Open Society Foundations, said in an interview. So many of my friends in South Africa are bewildered that a modern president of the United States, instead of leaning into issues of constitutionalism and jurisprudence, lifts up these themes. Its dangerous and poisoned. Trump faced an intense backlash for saying last summer that a white-supremacist rally in Charlottesville, where a counterprotester was killed, featured some very fine people on both sides. In January, he sparked more outrage when he complained to lawmakers in a private meeting at the White House that U.S. immigration law offered protections for people from shithole countries, referring to Haiti, El Salvador and some African nations. The presidents tweet about South Africa was his latest bid to signal common cause with nationalist movements abroad, including in Europe, where Trump and his top aides have expressed solidarity with populist governments pursuing anti-immigration agendas. Trump has not visited Africa since taking office, although first lady Melania Trump announced this week that she will visit the continent in October for her first major solo trip.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/24/18 2:20:38 PM #2:	President Trumps unfortunate tweet in response to a Fox News broadcast should not distract the United States from improving relations with South Africa, Sens. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) and Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.), who are members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said in a joint statement. We care deeply about the United States relationships with all African countries. Constructive relationships require measured dialogue as opposed to arbitrary tweets. The complicated issue of land expropriation has been fraught with emotion in South Africa, whose leaders quickly sought to stanch the enthusiasm of the far right over Trumps tweet. Government officials said they would summon U.S. diplomats to explain the Trump administrations position, although Trump has yet to name an ambassador to the country. We would like to discourage those who are using this sensitive and emotive issue of land to divide us as South Africans by distorting our land reform measures to the international community and spreading falsehoods that our white farmers are facing the onslaught from their own government, David Mabuza, South Africas deputy president, said while attending a land summit in the province of Limpopo. This is far from the truth. Members of Afriforum, the South African white-supremacist group, recently toured the United States, and the groups causes have been taken up by other white supremacists, including Duke, said Jill Kelly, a South Africa scholar at Southern Methodist University. She said studies have shown that farm murders in South Africa are at a 20-year low and that murders in general in the country have been declining since the end of apartheid. Analysts said the idea that white farmers in South Africa were being unfairly treated and are attacked in large numbers by nonwhites has persisted for decades. Brian Levin, a professor of criminal justice at California State University at San Bernardino who studies hate groups, said the narrative of white genocide has been central to the white-nationalist movement across the globe. Now we have an American leader parroting these talking points once theyve been transmitted through cable news. Its astounding, Levin said. Cumulatively, these messages and particularly the bluntness and adherence to inaccurate information or conspiracy theories are taken like rocket fuel within this fragmented, but still very significant, white-nationalist community. In a news briefing in Johannesburg, Julius Malema, the head of South Africas far-left EFF party, said: We are more determined, after the Donald Trump tweet, to expropriate our land without compensation. . . . Theres no white genocide here. There is black genocide in the USA. At the State Department, spokeswoman Heather Nauert confirmed that Trump and Pompeo discussed South Africa and added that Pompeo promised the president he would review the matter of land being taken from white farmers. In general, she said, expropriation of land without compensation would not be a good thing and would send South Africa down the wrong path. Foreign policy analysts said that Trumps administration has not articulated a clear Africa strategy and that the presidents lack of interest has harmed U.S. interests in sub-Saharan Africa, which features fast-growing populations and economies. Obama visited the continent three times as president, and he gave the Nelson Mandela Annual Lecture there last month. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:907473759] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><quote>President Trumps unfortunate tweet in response to a Fox News broadcast should not distract the United States from improving relations with South Africa, Sens. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) and Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.), who are members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said in a joint statement. We care deeply about the United States relationships with all African countries. Constructive relationships require measured dialogue as opposed to arbitrary tweets. The complicated issue of land expropriation has been fraught with emotion in South Africa, whose leaders quickly sought to stanch the enthusiasm of the far right over Trumps tweet. Government officials said they would summon U.S. diplomats to explain the Trump administrations position, although Trump has yet to name an ambassador to the country. We would like to discourage those who are using this sensitive and emotive issue of land to divide us as South Africans by distorting our land reform measures to the international community and spreading falsehoods that our white farmers are facing the onslaught from their own government, David Mabuza, South Africas deputy president, said while attending a land summit in the province of Limpopo. This is far from the truth. Members of Afriforum, the South African white-supremacist group, recently toured the United States, and the groups causes have been taken up by other white supremacists, including Duke, said Jill Kelly, a South Africa scholar at Southern Methodist University. She said studies have shown that farm murders in South Africa are at a 20-year low and that murders in general in the country have been declining since the end of apartheid. Analysts said the idea that white farmers in South Africa were being unfairly treated and are attacked in large numbers by nonwhites has persisted for decades. Brian Levin, a professor of criminal justice at California State University at San Bernardino who studies hate groups, said the narrative of white genocide has been central to the white-nationalist movement across the globe. Now we have an American leader parroting these talking points once theyve been transmitted through cable news. Its astounding, Levin said. Cumulatively, these messages and particularly the bluntness and adherence to inaccurate information or conspiracy theories are taken like rocket fuel within this fragmented, but still very significant, white-nationalist community. In a news briefing in Johannesburg, Julius Malema, the head of South Africas far-left EFF party, said: We are more determined, after the Donald Trump tweet, to expropriate our land without compensation. . . . Theres no white genocide here. There is black genocide in the USA. At the State Department, spokeswoman Heather Nauert confirmed that Trump and Pompeo discussed South Africa and added that Pompeo promised the president he would review the matter of land being taken from white farmers. In general, she said, expropriation of land without compensation would not be a good thing and would send South Africa down the wrong path. Foreign policy analysts said that Trumps administration has not articulated a clear Africa strategy and that the presidents lack of interest has harmed U.S. interests in sub-Saharan Africa, which features fast-growing populations and economies. Obama visited the continent three times as president, and he gave the Nelson Mandela Annual Lecture there last month.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/24/18 2:20:52 PM #3:	Countries which rely on rabid nationalism and xenophobia and doctrines of religious or racial superiority . . . eventually those countries find themselves consumed by civil or external war, Obama said in a speech widely interpreted as a rebuke to Trumps worldview. Judd Devermont, director of the Africa Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said Trumps weighing in on the issue was another example of the presidents comments derailing what is still a very unformed and unarticulated Africa policy. http://goo.gl/q9AQCJ --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:907473769] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><quote>Countries which rely on rabid nationalism and xenophobia and doctrines of religious or racial superiority . . . eventually those countries find themselves consumed by civil or external war, Obama said in a speech widely interpreted as a rebuke to Trumps worldview. Judd Devermont, director of the Africa Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said Trumps weighing in on the issue was another example of the presidents comments derailing what is still a very unformed and unarticulated Africa policy.</quote> http://goo.gl/q9AQCJ</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 08/24/18 2:27:26 PM #4:	Im shocked Shocked <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:907474158] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>Im shocked Shocked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/24/18 2:33:27 PM #5:	MICHALECOLE posted... Im shocked Shocked Rite? Where's the POTD GOP crew? --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:907474481] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Im shocked Shocked</quote> Rite? Where's the POTD GOP crew?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/24/18 2:38:48 PM #6:	FrndNhbrHdCEman posted... MICHALECOLE posted... Im shocked Shocked Rite? Where's the POTD GOP crew? Blows the horn of Bder Eamales --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:907474756] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Im shocked Shocked</quote> Rite? Where's the POTD GOP crew?</quote> Blows the horn of Bder Eamales</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/24/18 2:42:27 PM #7:	Republicans betting their cowardice wont cost them. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:907474944] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>Republicans betting their cowardice wont cost them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Andromicus 08/24/18 2:44:35 PM #9:	Well I mean it is happening tho right? --- PotD's official master braider <cite>Andromicus posted [p:907475050] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>Well I mean it is happening tho right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/24/18 2:47:28 PM #10:	PyroBlade1985 posted... Wait. So farmers in South Africa aren't being murdered? Nope by law theyre immune to being killed --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:907475190] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>PyroBlade1985 posted...</cite> <quote>Wait. So farmers in South Africa aren't being murdered?</quote> Nope by law theyre immune to being killed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 08/24/18 2:53:46 PM #11:	No zues? --- "I'm probably one of the few here who would actually make it a real fight" - Ohhhja 8/14/18 PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:907475512] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>No zues?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 08/24/18 2:56:24 PM #12:	SunWuKung420 posted... No zues? Not yet. Probably typing pages of responses <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:907475649] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>No zues?</quote> Not yet. Probably typing pages of responses</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 08/24/18 3:21:20 PM #13:	PyroBlade1985 posted... Wait. So farmers in South Africa aren't being murdered? Their lands are being redistributed due to mass protest. The genocide is either not happening or very well hidden such that only white nationalists can see it. --- https://i.imgtc.com/s5SZnYd.jpg <cite>Blighboy posted [p:907476970] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>PyroBlade1985 posted...</cite> <quote>Wait. So farmers in South Africa aren't being murdered?</quote> Their lands are being redistributed due to mass protest. The genocide is either not happening or very well hidden such that only white nationalists can see it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 08/24/18 3:33:46 PM #14:	Here's what I don't understand about this whole South African land problem: In the 1940's, Africa was sadly the victim to Apartheid. This racist and oppressive time resulted in a lot of white people owning most the land in South Africa. Foreign-wealthy-white-bastards from Europe and Asia and even North America were grabbing up this land like it was candy. Just there for the land. Land to profit off of. These racist, oppressive bastards went on to establish their farms, ranches, and large chunks of property......and financially benefited from it all. And then those land owners went on to have children (like humans tend to do). And their children went on to have children. And the land was passed down and inherited by those children. Children who had NOTHING TO DO with the racist and oppressive land-grabbing their ancestors committed. And now, today, in 2018, South Africans are bitter and jealous and angry at the current land owners...because way back in the day, an oppressive and racist system is what allowed them to get that land in the first place. So they want to punish the children for the sins of the father. It's a logic that is immoral. To punish a child for the actions of the parent. The kids weren't complacent. They weren't even born yet. That's like burning someone's house down....because they inherited that house from their dad, who inherited the house from his dad, who got the money for the house by robbing a bank and never getting caught. But a cold case gets open and DNA evidence comes forward, and blah blah blah whatever science.....reveals that the grandfather robbed a bank, and now people are angry that the grandson indirectly benefitted from that robbed bank...so let's punish him. What? Yeah. Tacos. And tunafish. With a splice of genetic primed rib amongst high clouds where are they? who? 1010100001.11..1...1....spider-web huey lewis and the jews. Halps' fgj chees. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:907477650] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>Here's what I don't understand about this whole South African land problem: In the 1940's, Africa was sadly the victim to Apartheid. This racist and oppressive time resulted in a lot of white people owning most the land in South Africa. Foreign-wealthy-white-bastards from Europe and Asia and even North America were grabbing up this land like it was candy. Just there for the land. Land to profit off of. These racist, oppressive bastards went on to establish their farms, ranches, and large chunks of property......and financially benefited from it all. And then those land owners went on to have children (like humans tend to do). And their children went on to have children. And the land was passed down and inherited by those children. Children who had NOTHING TO DO with the racist and oppressive land-grabbing their ancestors committed. And now, today, in 2018, South Africans are bitter and jealous and angry at the current land owners...because way back in the day, an oppressive and racist system is what allowed them to get that land in the first place. So they want to punish the children for the sins of the father. It's a logic that is immoral. To punish a child for the actions of the parent. The kids weren't complacent. They weren't even born yet. That's like burning someone's house down....because they inherited that house from their dad, who inherited the house from his dad, who got the money for the house by robbing a bank and never getting caught. But a cold case gets open and DNA evidence comes forward, and blah blah blah whatever science.....reveals that the grandfather robbed a bank, and now people are angry that the grandson indirectly benefitted from that robbed bank...so let's punish him. What? Yeah. Tacos. And tunafish. With a splice of genetic primed rib amongst high clouds where are they? who? 1010100001.11..1...1....spider-web huey lewis and the jews. Halps' fgj chees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/24/18 3:54:11 PM #15:	SunWuKung420 posted... No zues? Be blocked me cause imma troll. Nothin to do with hearin I work for a politician who's a Democrat. He also got suspended for sayin me bein black means I can only attend clown colleges. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:907478784] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>No zues?</quote> Be blocked me cause imma troll. Nothin to do with hearin I work for a politician who's a Democrat. He also got suspended for sayin me bein black means I can only attend clown colleges.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 08/24/18 4:19:24 PM #16:	GreenKnight127 posted... Children who had NOTHING TO DO with the racist and oppressive land-grabbing their ancestors committed. And now, today, in 2018, South Africans are bitter and jealous and angry at the current land owners...because way back in the day, an oppressive and racist system is what allowed them to get that land in the first place. So they want to punish the children for the sins of the father. It's a logic that is immoral. To punish a child for the actions of the parent. The kids weren't complacent. They weren't even born yet. Right on, man. And this is why America is still plagued with racism. People gotta leave the past to the past. <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:907480204] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Children who had NOTHING TO DO with the racist and oppressive land-grabbing their ancestors committed. And now, today, in 2018, South Africans are bitter and jealous and angry at the current land owners...because way back in the day, an oppressive and racist system is what allowed them to get that land in the first place. So they want to punish the children for the sins of the father. It's a logic that is immoral. To punish a child for the actions of the parent. The kids weren't complacent. They weren't even born yet.</quote> Right on, man. And this is why America is still plagued with racism. People gotta leave the past to the past.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/24/18 4:22:11 PM #17:	GanglyKhan posted... GreenKnight127 posted... Children who had NOTHING TO DO with the racist and oppressive land-grabbing their ancestors committed. And now, today, in 2018, South Africans are bitter and jealous and angry at the current land owners...because way back in the day, an oppressive and racist system is what allowed them to get that land in the first place. So they want to punish the children for the sins of the father. It's a logic that is immoral. To punish a child for the actions of the parent. The kids weren't complacent. They weren't even born yet. Right on, man. And this is why America is still plagued with racism. People gotta leave the past to the past. Ya that's why. /s --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:907480356] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Children who had NOTHING TO DO with the racist and oppressive land-grabbing their ancestors committed. And now, today, in 2018, South Africans are bitter and jealous and angry at the current land owners...because way back in the day, an oppressive and racist system is what allowed them to get that land in the first place. So they want to punish the children for the sins of the father. It's a logic that is immoral. To punish a child for the actions of the parent. The kids weren't complacent. They weren't even born yet.</quote> Right on, man. And this is why America is still plagued with racism. People gotta leave the past to the past.</quote> Ya that's why. /s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_AdjI_ 08/24/18 4:39:48 PM #18:	GreenKnight127 posted... Children who had NOTHING TO DO with the racist and oppressive land-grabbing their ancestors committed. And now, today, in 2018, South Africans are bitter and jealous and angry at the current land owners...because way back in the day, an oppressive and racist system is what allowed them to get that land in the first place. So they want to punish the children for the sins of the father. It's a logic that is immoral. To punish a child for the actions of the parent. The kids weren't complacent. They weren't even born yet. But on the flip side, there are a whole lot of black people in South Africa who have very little because their grandparents had very little because of Apartheid. They're already suffering because of the actions of people who weren't even their ancestors. Is it right to protest this redistribution as being it a punishment for their ancestors' actions while also turning a blind eye to people whose lives already suck without even that justification? This is why reparations are a tricky ethical point: both the harms and benefits of the past's gross inequalities are felt by people today, and the only way to alleviate those harms is to take away the benefits from people who did nothing but be born into the right family to be reaping them. <cite>_AdjI_ posted [p:907481316] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Children who had NOTHING TO DO with the racist and oppressive land-grabbing their ancestors committed. And now, today, in 2018, South Africans are bitter and jealous and angry at the current land owners...because way back in the day, an oppressive and racist system is what allowed them to get that land in the first place. So they want to punish the children for the sins of the father. It's a logic that is immoral. To punish a child for the actions of the parent. The kids weren't complacent. They weren't even born yet.</quote> But on the flip side, there are a whole lot of black people in South Africa who have very little because their grandparents had very little because of Apartheid. They're already suffering because of the actions of people who weren't even their ancestors. Is it right to protest this redistribution as being it a punishment for their ancestors' actions while also turning a blind eye to people whose lives already suck without even that justification? This is why reparations are a tricky ethical point: both the harms and benefits of the past's gross inequalities are felt by people today, and the only way to alleviate those harms is to take away the benefits from people who did nothing but be born into the right family to be reaping them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FourthDimension 08/24/18 4:45:41 PM #19:	I thought he didnt care about shithole countries and their problems? <cite>FourthDimension posted [p:907481639] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>I thought he didnt care about shithole countries and their problems?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Andromicus 08/24/18 4:48:31 PM #20:	FourthDimension posted... I thought he didnt care about shithole countries and their problems? This one is white tho --- PotD's official master braider <cite>Andromicus posted [p:907481814] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>FourthDimension posted...</cite> <quote>I thought he didnt care about shithole countries and their problems?</quote> This one is white tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 08/24/18 5:03:25 PM #21:	@Zeus --- "I'm probably one of the few here who would actually make it a real fight" - Ohhhja 8/14/18 PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:907482625] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>@Zeus</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ninja_lootz 08/24/18 5:05:47 PM #22:	It takes like 5 minutes of research to find all kinds of evidence of the torture and murder of white farmers. You are actually sick in the head, TC. --- MY HELMET'S ON YOU CAN'T TELL ME I'M NOT IN SPACE <cite>ninja_lootz posted [p:907482766] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>It takes like 5 minutes of research to find all kinds of evidence of the torture and murder of white farmers. You are actually sick in the head, TC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfernalFive 08/24/18 5:29:49 PM #23:	These attacks on farms in South Africa are not a "conspiracy theory" lol --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyfabsU4xH1qzy531o1_500.jpg https://imgur.com/ggCrHk8 <cite>InfernalFive posted [p:907484049] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>These attacks on farms in South Africa are not a "conspiracy theory" lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 08/24/18 5:32:29 PM #24:	SunWuKung420 posted... No zues? I'm not surprised that you dont know how to spell zeus <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:907484192] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>No zues?</quote> I'm not surprised that you dont know how to spell zeus</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/24/18 5:34:39 PM #25:	The South Africa situation is sad - they're killing the Boer Farmers who had no part of Apartheid as Apartheid revenge. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:907484312] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>The South Africa situation is sad - they're killing the Boer Farmers who had no part of Apartheid as Apartheid revenge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 08/24/18 5:36:15 PM #26:	OhhhJa posted... SunWuKung420 posted... No zues? I'm not surprised that you dont know how to spell zeus I'm not surprised you don't know I do it on purpose every time. But then, you may be angry but you're not bright. --- "I'm probably one of the few here who would actually make it a real fight" - Ohhhja 8/14/18 PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:907484387] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>No zues?</quote> I'm not surprised that you dont know how to spell zeus</quote> I'm not surprised you don't know I do it on purpose every time. But then, you may be angry but you're not bright.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/24/18 5:36:40 PM #27:	Heh, the Zues Canal --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:907484414] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>Heh, the Zues Canal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Andromicus 08/24/18 5:37:38 PM #28:	OhhhJa posted... SunWuKung420 posted... No zues? I'm not surprised that you dont know how to spell zeus U before E except after Z --- PotD's official master braider <cite>Andromicus posted [p:907484457] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>No zues?</quote> I'm not surprised that you dont know how to spell zeus</quote> U before E except after Z</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 08/24/18 5:45:20 PM #29:	SunWuKung420 posted... OhhhJa posted... SunWuKung420 posted... No zues? I'm not surprised that you dont know how to spell zeus I'm not surprised you don't know I do it on purpose every time. But then, you may be angry but you're not bright. A 40 year old diner cook is calling me dumb. Lmao. And lol at calling me angry when you're clearly very angry right now Anyway, it's pretty funny that the article calls it a conspiracy theory because the number is down from 140 people a year to 70. 70 plus people is still quite a bit. If 70 people were murdered on farms in the U.S. that would be pretty huge news and the U.S. is way more heavily populated. The left claims trump only cares because this involves white people but the irony is that the left doesn't care because it is white people <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:907484867] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>No zues?</quote> I'm not surprised that you dont know how to spell zeus</quote> I'm not surprised you don't know I do it on purpose every time. But then, you may be angry but you're not bright.</quote> A 40 year old diner cook is calling me dumb. Lmao. And lol at calling me angry when you're clearly very angry right now Anyway, it's pretty funny that the article calls it a conspiracy theory because the number is down from 140 people a year to 70. 70 plus people is still quite a bit. If 70 people were murdered on farms in the U.S. that would be pretty huge news and the U.S. is way more heavily populated. The left claims trump only cares because this involves white people but the irony is that the left doesn't care because it is white people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 08/25/18 4:05:15 AM #30:	ninja_lootz posted... It takes like 5 minutes of research to find all kinds of evidence of the torture and murder of white farmers. You are actually sick in the head, TC. I feel like you can't call 5 minutes, thorough research, ok? In 5 minutes, you can find proof of the earth being flat, ok? --- https://imgur.com/qL0DHFI https://imgur.com/JL9rRLt https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:907510309] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>ninja_lootz posted...</cite> <quote>It takes like 5 minutes of research to find all kinds of evidence of the torture and murder of white farmers. You are actually sick in the head, TC.</quote> I feel like you can't call 5 minutes, thorough research, ok? In 5 minutes, you can find proof of the earth being flat, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWorstPoster 08/25/18 8:13:24 AM #31:	South Africa will very soon become the next Zimbabwe. <cite>TheWorstPoster posted [p:907514565] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>South Africa will very soon become the next Zimbabwe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigbadharry 08/25/18 10:30:42 AM #32:	What a load of far left wing crap op. This will fail, it didn't work in Zimbabwe, it didn't work in Venezuela or Russia. While the far left salivate at white people getting what's coming to them. The people who suffer the most will be the Black South Africans, life expectancy will plunge to like 20 years, they will start eating dead people and each other. Zimbabwe North Korea 2.0. Well done you sure got put white people in their place. Most skilled white people will be able to leave because other countries will gladly take them. Oh well I mean as long as we own land we own the means to production. Nobody wants to invest in a country where they don't respect property or land rights. I agree there must restitution in some format but not like this this. They already have Black economic empowerment programs, Affirmative Action for the majority and previously disadvantaged, sports affirmative action quotas, doctors quotas etc I suppose it the fault of the white minority that the polices put in place by the black majority government didn't work out? --- Arrgh. Is this the end of lovable Igniz? Why!? There was no way I could lose! Why!? Why!? <cite>bigbadharry posted [p:907518135] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>What a load of far left wing crap op. This will fail, it didn't work in Zimbabwe, it didn't work in Venezuela or Russia. While the far left salivate at white people getting what's coming to them. The people who suffer the most will be the Black South Africans, life expectancy will plunge to like 20 years, they will start eating dead people and each other. Zimbabwe North Korea 2.0. Well done you sure got put white people in their place. Most skilled white people will be able to leave because other countries will gladly take them. Oh well I mean as long as we own land we own the means to production. Nobody wants to invest in a country where they don't respect property or land rights. I agree there must restitution in some format but not like this this. They already have Black economic empowerment programs, Affirmative Action for the majority and previously disadvantaged, sports affirmative action quotas, doctors quotas etc I suppose it the fault of the white minority that the polices put in place by the black majority government didn't work out?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 08/25/18 10:35:29 AM #33:	At what point are we responsible for the outcome of our own lives? If my parents are poor...and I grow up to be poor as well.....is that PURELY the fault of my parents? Yes, it certainly had a hand in it....but was my poverty so bad that it prevented me from at least becoming LESS POOR than my parents? Was I physically unable to learn from their mistakes? Unable to better myself? Apartheid sucked. There's no defending it. However, the people who are alive today, are dealing with the ripples of the atrocities that happened generations ago. The people alive today are not at fault. So what intrigues me is just how far back do we need to go to justify punishment today? You know? Like the whole idea of reparations for black people....simply because some of their distant ancestors MIGHT have been slaves, and how that enslavement indirectly caused a man alive today to be working a minimum wage job and being a depressed alcoholic. "If my parents hadn't been slaves, they would have had more money and opportunity! Which would have given my great great grandfather more opportunities. Which would have given my grandfather more opportunities. Which would have given my father more opportunities. Which would have given ME more opportunities! So that's why I'm a depressed alcoholic working a minimum wage job!!! Where are my reparations!?!?!" It's just making excuses for yourself. And that's sad. So how far back can we take this logic? If a privileged little white boy is not as tall or as muscular as he would like to be.....should be blame himself for not eating enough or exercising enough to get bulk? Should he blame his parents for being short and choosing to breed? Or should he blame Karka....and Gron.....his distant caveman ancestors who were shorter than average, but really good hunters and passionate lovers....who unfortunately were the root of his pathetic 5'5" lineage that would eventually lead to his existence? lol --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:907518283] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>At what point are we responsible for the outcome of our own lives? If my parents are poor...and I grow up to be poor as well.....is that PURELY the fault of my parents? Yes, it certainly had a hand in it....but was my poverty so bad that it prevented me from at least becoming LESS POOR than my parents? Was I physically unable to learn from their mistakes? Unable to better myself? Apartheid sucked. There's no defending it. However, the people who are alive today, are dealing with the ripples of the atrocities that happened generations ago. The people alive today are not at fault. So what intrigues me is just how far back do we need to go to justify punishment today? You know? Like the whole idea of reparations for black people....simply because some of their distant ancestors MIGHT have been slaves, and how that enslavement indirectly caused a man alive today to be working a minimum wage job and being a depressed alcoholic. "If my parents hadn't been slaves, they would have had more money and opportunity! Which would have given my great great grandfather more opportunities. Which would have given my grandfather more opportunities. Which would have given my father more opportunities. Which would have given ME more opportunities! So that's why I'm a depressed alcoholic working a minimum wage job!!! Where are my reparations!?!?!" It's just making excuses for yourself. And that's sad. So how far back can we take this logic? If a privileged little white boy is not as tall or as muscular as he would like to be.....should be blame himself for not eating enough or exercising enough to get bulk? Should he blame his parents for being short and choosing to breed? Or should he blame Karka....and Gron.....his distant caveman ancestors who were shorter than average, but really good hunters and passionate lovers....who unfortunately were the root of his pathetic 5'5" lineage that would eventually lead to his existence? lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joemodda 08/25/18 10:58:09 AM #34:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrrlLQFbVOs&app=desktop Hear it from Malena himself. No white killing. Very reassuring message --- Whatever the cost, whatever the effort! <cite>joemodda posted [p:907519031] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrrlLQFbVOs&app=desktop Hear it from Malena himself. No white killing. Very reassuring message</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigbadharry 08/25/18 12:46:34 PM #35:	Come on TC what is with the deafening silence? --- Arrgh. Is this the end of lovable Igniz? Why!? There was no way I could lose! Why!? Why!? <cite>bigbadharry posted [p:907523232] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>Come on TC what is with the deafening silence?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfernalFive 08/25/18 1:14:10 PM #36:	bigbadharry posted... Come on TC what is with the deafening silence? He's a troll what did you expect??? --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyfabsU4xH1qzy531o1_500.jpg https://imgur.com/ggCrHk8 <cite>InfernalFive posted [p:907524464] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>bigbadharry posted...</cite> <quote>Come on TC what is with the deafening silence?</quote> He's a troll what did you expect???</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/25/18 10:00:59 PM #37:	Andromicus posted... FourthDimension posted... I thought he didnt care about shithole countries and their problems? This one is white tho Hit it on the nose. bigbadharry posted... Come on TC what is with the deafening silence? Lmao. Post on your main fam. InfernalFive posted... bigbadharry posted... Come on TC what is with the deafening silence? He's a troll what did you expect??? Speakin of. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:907549838] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>Andromicus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FourthDimension posted...</cite> <quote>I thought he didnt care about shithole countries and their problems?</quote> This one is white tho</quote> Hit it on the nose. <cite>bigbadharry posted...</cite> <quote>Come on TC what is with the deafening silence?</quote> Lmao. Post on your main fam. <cite>InfernalFive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bigbadharry posted...</cite> <quote>Come on TC what is with the deafening silence?</quote> He's a troll what did you expect???</quote> Speakin of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fazeo13 08/26/18 6:42:31 AM #38:	joemodda posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrrlLQFbVOs&app=desktop Hear it from Malena himself. No white killing. Very reassuring message Yikes! 0_0!? Jeez I'm not a fan of Trump. He's okay I guess. The reason he was voted for is because he went against the Repub mainstream, which was heading to barn to be shot in the head. Whelp, guess it's cool to genocide people as long as we can do some Trump Bashing? --- You aren't even really reading my posts; you're just staring at your e-mail client and fondly reminiscing about that hobo you stabbed to death. :P <cite>Fazeo13 posted [p:907565515] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>joemodda posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrrlLQFbVOs&app=desktop Hear it from Malena himself. No white killing. Very reassuring message</quote> Yikes! 0_0!? Jeez I'm not a fan of Trump. He's okay I guess. The reason he was voted for is because he went against the Repub mainstream, which was heading to barn to be shot in the head. Whelp, guess it's cool to genocide people as long as we can do some Trump Bashing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 08/26/18 7:42:15 AM #39:	lol they get the jobs, the farmers try to help they still don't know what they're doing it's not some peasent job and even if it was it's a 14-16 hour a day job maybe 12 if you work fast Fazeo13 posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrrlLQFbVOs&app=desktop this guy is insane virtually no one lived in south africa, it's surrounded by open water there was no trade or farmland or anything, it was just uninhabited land the next vid is some woman being interviewed about her dad being murdered by a vagrant <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:907566504] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>lol they get the jobs, the farmers try to help they still don't know what they're doing it's not some peasent job and even if it was it's a 14-16 hour a day job maybe 12 if you work fast <cite>Fazeo13 posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrrlLQFbVOs&app=desktop </quote> this guy is insane virtually no one lived in south africa, it's surrounded by open water there was no trade or farmland or anything, it was just uninhabited land the next vid is some woman being interviewed about her dad being murdered by a vagrant</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 08/26/18 10:28:17 AM #40:	GreenKnight127 posted... Apartheid sucked. There's no defending it. However, the people who are alive today, are dealing with the ripples of the atrocities that happened generations ago. The people alive today are not at fault. So what intrigues me is just how far back do we need to go to justify punishment today? You know? Dude, apartheid isn't ancient history. Probably half the people on this board were alive when apartheid was finally kicked to the trash where it belonged. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:907570779] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Apartheid sucked. There's no defending it. However, the people who are alive today, are dealing with the ripples of the atrocities that happened generations ago. The people alive today are not at fault. So what intrigues me is just how far back do we need to go to justify punishment today? You know? </quote> Dude, apartheid isn't ancient history. Probably half the people on this board were alive when apartheid was finally kicked to the trash where it belonged.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TsC_PoLiTiKz 08/26/18 11:42:41 AM #41:	I don't think people are aware that apartheid essentially JUST ended. Like... I was alive. --- Playing - Fortnite (XONE/NS); Animal Crossing: New Leaf (3DS); Mario Sports Superstars (3DS); Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (NS); Splatoon 2 (NS) <cite>TsC_PoLiTiKz posted [p:907573514] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>I don't think people are aware that apartheid essentially JUST ended. Like... I was alive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sensual_T_Rex 08/26/18 12:52:50 PM #42:	The stupidity of the anti Trumpers is hilarious sometimes. Lol seriously he said he'd look into what's happening over there and people are saying he's a nazi. Of course idiots have been calling him that since he announced he'd run for the presidency. I guess tripling down on stupid is the way to go huh. --- Babylon ah mosh up the sea and fear him da Rasta mon. <cite>Sensual_T_Rex posted [p:907576395] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>The stupidity of the anti Trumpers is hilarious sometimes. Lol seriously he said he'd look into what's happening over there and people are saying he's a nazi. Of course idiots have been calling him that since he announced he'd run for the presidency. I guess tripling down on stupid is the way to go huh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 08/26/18 2:33:00 PM #43:	darkknight109 posted... GreenKnight127 posted... Apartheid sucked. There's no defending it. However, the people who are alive today, are dealing with the ripples of the atrocities that happened generations ago. The people alive today are not at fault. So what intrigues me is just how far back do we need to go to justify punishment today? You know? Dude, apartheid isn't ancient history. Probably half the people on this board were alive when apartheid was finally kicked to the trash where it belonged. The GOP isn't known for being up on its history, ok? --- https://imgur.com/qL0DHFI https://imgur.com/JL9rRLt https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:907580913] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Apartheid sucked. There's no defending it. However, the people who are alive today, are dealing with the ripples of the atrocities that happened generations ago. The people alive today are not at fault. So what intrigues me is just how far back do we need to go to justify punishment today? You know? </quote> Dude, apartheid isn't ancient history. Probably half the people on this board were alive when apartheid was finally kicked to the trash where it belonged.</quote> The GOP isn't known for being up on its history, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/26/18 3:56:01 PM #44:	darkknight109 posted... GreenKnight127 posted... Apartheid sucked. There's no defending it. However, the people who are alive today, are dealing with the ripples of the atrocities that happened generations ago. The people alive today are not at fault. So what intrigues me is just how far back do we need to go to justify punishment today? You know? Dude, apartheid isn't ancient history. Probably half the people on this board were alive when apartheid was finally kicked to the trash where it belonged. TsC_PoLiTiKz posted... I don't think people are aware that apartheid essentially JUST ended. Like... I was alive. They've gotta felate the ego of their party. he's a compulsive liar ffs but he ran republican. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:907585171] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Apartheid sucked. There's no defending it. However, the people who are alive today, are dealing with the ripples of the atrocities that happened generations ago. The people alive today are not at fault. So what intrigues me is just how far back do we need to go to justify punishment today? You know? </quote> Dude, apartheid isn't ancient history. Probably half the people on this board were alive when apartheid was finally kicked to the trash where it belonged.</quote> <cite>TsC_PoLiTiKz posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think people are aware that apartheid essentially JUST ended. Like... I was alive.</quote> They've gotta felate the ego of their party. he's a compulsive liar ffs but he ran republican.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 08/27/18 3:57:39 PM #45:	TsC_PoLiTiKz posted... I don't think people are aware that apartheid essentially JUST ended. Like... I was alive. I remember how surreal it seemed when I heard about it ending that shit like that was still around. It sounded like something that should have been gone by the 1950s, and instead it was still around in the fucking 1990s. I'm assuming that's why so many people are thinking that it's something that happened a long time ago - because the idea of a racial ethno-state seems like something straight out of the 1800s, not something whose demise is younger than the internet. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:907643968] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>TsC_PoLiTiKz posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think people are aware that apartheid essentially JUST ended. Like... I was alive.</quote> I remember how surreal it seemed when I heard about it ending that shit like that was still around. It sounded like something that should have been gone by the 1950s, and instead it was still around in the fucking 1990s. I'm assuming that's why so many people are thinking that it's something that happened a long time ago - because the idea of a racial ethno-state seems like something straight out of the 1800s, not something whose demise is younger than the internet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 08/27/18 4:41:09 PM #46:	darkknight109 posted... TsC_PoLiTiKz posted... I don't think people are aware that apartheid essentially JUST ended. Like... I was alive. I remember how surreal it seemed when I heard about it ending that shit like that was still around. It sounded like something that should have been gone by the 1950s, and instead it was still around in the fucking 1990s. I'm assuming that's why so many people are thinking that it's something that happened a long time ago - because the idea of a racial ethno-state seems like something straight out of the 1800s, not something whose demise is younger than the internet. A similar thing happens with Canada's residential schools. It's easy to think of them being this really bad thing that happened some time in the distant past, and to downplay the impacts accordingly, but the last one only closed in 1996, and the program was still very much in effect when most of our parents were growing up. It's very much still fresh, especially considering how much of the harm arising from cultural genocide like that is inter-generational. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:907646592] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TsC_PoLiTiKz posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think people are aware that apartheid essentially JUST ended. Like... I was alive.</quote> I remember how surreal it seemed when I heard about it ending that shit like that was still around. It sounded like something that should have been gone by the 1950s, and instead it was still around in the fucking 1990s. I'm assuming that's why so many people are thinking that it's something that happened a long time ago - because the idea of a racial ethno-state seems like something straight out of the 1800s, not something whose demise is younger than the internet.</quote> A similar thing happens with Canada's residential schools. It's easy to think of them being this really bad thing that happened some time in the distant past, and to downplay the impacts accordingly, but the last one only closed in 1996, and the program was still very much in effect when most of our parents were growing up. It's very much still fresh, especially considering how much of the harm arising from cultural genocide like that is inter-generational.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigbadharry 08/28/18 8:31:36 AM #47:	darkknight109 posted... TsC_PoLiTiKz posted... I don't think people are aware that apartheid essentially JUST ended. Like... I was alive. I remember how surreal it seemed when I heard about it ending that shit like that was still around. It sounded like something that should have been gone by the 1950s, and instead it was still around in the fucking 1990s. I'm assuming that's why so many people are thinking that it's something that happened a long time ago - because the idea of a racial ethno-state seems like something straight out of the 1800s, not something whose demise is younger than the internet. What does this have to do with the topic? Negotiations to end Apartheid started in 1989, so a lot of Apartheid restrictions were lifted during that time. In 1994 it ended. That's roughly 20 years. It took Germany only 10 years to recover after being decimated in WW2. --- Arrgh. Is this the end of lovable Igniz? Why!? There was no way I could lose! Why!? Why!? <cite>bigbadharry posted [p:907679230] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TsC_PoLiTiKz posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think people are aware that apartheid essentially JUST ended. Like... I was alive.</quote> I remember how surreal it seemed when I heard about it ending that shit like that was still around. It sounded like something that should have been gone by the 1950s, and instead it was still around in the fucking 1990s. I'm assuming that's why so many people are thinking that it's something that happened a long time ago - because the idea of a racial ethno-state seems like something straight out of the 1800s, not something whose demise is younger than the internet.</quote> What does this have to do with the topic? Negotiations to end Apartheid started in 1989, so a lot of Apartheid restrictions were lifted during that time. In 1994 it ended. That's roughly 20 years. It took Germany only 10 years to recover after being decimated in WW2.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 08/28/18 9:39:52 AM #48:	bigbadharry posted... What does this have to do with the topic? Negotiations to end Apartheid started in 1989, so a lot of Apartheid restrictions were lifted during that time. In 1994 it ended. That's roughly 20 years. It took Germany only 10 years to recover after being decimated in WW2. Ignoring that this is an absolutely ridiculous comparison for several reasons, World War II lasted six years; Apartheid lasted for 40 and was a follow-up on an even longer history of segregation. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:907681503] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>bigbadharry posted...</cite> <quote>What does this have to do with the topic? Negotiations to end Apartheid started in 1989, so a lot of Apartheid restrictions were lifted during that time. In 1994 it ended. That's roughly 20 years. It took Germany only 10 years to recover after being decimated in WW2.</quote> Ignoring that this is an absolutely ridiculous comparison for several reasons, World War II lasted six years; Apartheid lasted for 40 and was a follow-up on an even longer history of segregation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
penaferus 08/28/18 11:35:19 AM #49:	Donald Trump is an orange baboon with half the IQ. <cite>penaferus posted [p:907687018] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote>Donald Trump is an orange baboon with half the IQ.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fazeo13 08/28/18 2:50:22 PM #50:	darkknight109 posted... bigbadharry posted... What does this have to do with the topic? Negotiations to end Apartheid started in 1989, so a lot of Apartheid restrictions were lifted during that time. In 1994 it ended. That's roughly 20 years. It took Germany only 10 years to recover after being decimated in WW2. Ignoring that this is an absolutely ridiculous comparison for several reasons, World War II lasted six years; Apartheid lasted for 40 and was a follow-up on an even longer history of segregation. Actually the country was in decent shape when it was handed over, enough to stabilize the country. However mass american democratic party like corruption sunk the country like a stone. 20 years of corruption and now they've run out of state enterprises to loot, now they need to steal farmers land. Standards have dropped drastically since the ruling party took over. --- You aren't even really reading my posts; you're just staring at your e-mail client and fondly reminiscing about that hobo you stabbed to death. :P <cite>Fazeo13 posted [p:907698207] in Critics bl... [t:76933313]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bigbadharry posted...</cite> <quote>What does this have to do with the topic? Negotiations to end Apartheid started in 1989, so a lot of Apartheid restrictions were lifted during that time. In 1994 it ended. That's roughly 20 years. It took Germany only 10 years to recover after being decimated in WW2.</quote> Ignoring that this is an absolutely ridiculous comparison for several reasons, World War II lasted six years; Apartheid lasted for 40 and was a follow-up on an even longer history of segregation.</quote> Actually the country was in decent shape when it was handed over, enough to stabilize the country. However mass american democratic party like corruption sunk the country like a stone. 20 years of corruption and now they've run out of state enterprises to loot, now they need to steal farmers land. Standards have dropped drastically since the ruling party took over.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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