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antfair 08/14/18 12:52:26 PM #1:	https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-10/american-workers-just-got-a-pay-cut-in-economy-trump-calls-great President Donald Trump has presided over an accelerating economy and the lowest unemployment in years, but American workers still arent seeing it in their wallets. U.S. average hourly earnings adjusted for inflation fell 0.2 percent in July from a year earlier, data released on Friday showed, notching the lowest reading since 2012. While inflation isnt high in historical terms, after years of being too low following the 2007-2009 recession, its recent gains are taking a bigger bite out of U.S. paychecks. Inflation has been climbing and wage growth, meanwhile, has been flat as a pancake, said Laura Rosner, senior economist at MacroPolicy Perspectives LLC in New York. In a very tight labor market you would expect that workers would negotiate their wages to at least keep up with the cost of living, and the picture tells you that theyre not. U.S. unemployment at 3.9 percent in July was near a 50-year low and a core measure of inflation that excludes food and energy prices has pushed to 2.4 percent, the highest reading in almost a decade. But wages are just not keeping up and part of the reason is probably a lack of bargaining power on the part of U.S. workers. Ryan Sweet, an economist at Moodys Analytics Inc. in West Chester, Pennsylvania, said given that inflation has been low in recent years, the sense of urgency hasnt been there to negotiate for higher wages. In the post-recession labor market, workers have forgotten how to bargain. As the labor market came back, workers were just happy to have survived, Sweet said. They value their job security more than asking for a higher wage. What will determine real wages in the coming months is not inflation as much as what happen to wages, he said. I do anticipate nominal wage growth picking up which should help drive up real wage gains over the next few months. --- What is this, a fair for ants? <cite>antfair posted [p:906865590] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-10/american-workers-just-got-a-pay-cut-in-economy-trump-calls-great <quote>President Donald Trump has presided over an accelerating economy and the lowest unemployment in years, but American workers still arent seeing it in their wallets. U.S. average hourly earnings adjusted for inflation fell 0.2 percent in July from a year earlier, data released on Friday showed, notching the lowest reading since 2012. While inflation isnt high in historical terms, after years of being too low following the 2007-2009 recession, its recent gains are taking a bigger bite out of U.S. paychecks. Inflation has been climbing and wage growth, meanwhile, has been flat as a pancake, said Laura Rosner, senior economist at MacroPolicy Perspectives LLC in New York. In a very tight labor market you would expect that workers would negotiate their wages to at least keep up with the cost of living, and the picture tells you that theyre not. U.S. unemployment at 3.9 percent in July was near a 50-year low and a core measure of inflation that excludes food and energy prices has pushed to 2.4 percent, the highest reading in almost a decade. But wages are just not keeping up and part of the reason is probably a lack of bargaining power on the part of U.S. workers. Ryan Sweet, an economist at Moodys Analytics Inc. in West Chester, Pennsylvania, said given that inflation has been low in recent years, the sense of urgency hasnt been there to negotiate for higher wages. In the post-recession labor market, workers have forgotten how to bargain. As the labor market came back, workers were just happy to have survived, Sweet said. They value their job security more than asking for a higher wage. What will determine real wages in the coming months is not inflation as much as what happen to wages, he said. I do anticipate nominal wage growth picking up which should help drive up real wage gains over the next few months.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 08/14/18 12:53:21 PM #2:	Really? I just got a huge raise and yearly bonus 6 months ago :) <cite>iClockwork posted [p:906865647] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>Really? I just got a huge raise and yearly bonus 6 months ago :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 08/14/18 12:54:52 PM #3:	iClockwork posted... Really? I just got a huge raise and yearly bonus 6 months ago :) I guess that means there's no problem for the american workers at large then. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:906865727] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>Really? I just got a huge raise and yearly bonus 6 months ago :)</quote> I guess that means there's no problem for the american workers at large then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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frozenshock 08/14/18 1:17:38 PM #5:	Because the average person is totally in a position to negotiate their wages. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:906866872] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>Because the average person is totally in a position to negotiate their wages.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 08/14/18 10:49:22 PM #6:	frozenshock posted... iClockwork posted... Really? I just got a huge raise and yearly bonus 6 months ago :) I guess that means there's no problem for the american workers at large then. It's on them to negotiate their worth or acquire skills to enter a new field. Don't be mad that Walmart isn't providing them with a 3 story house and 2 cars for entry level work. frozenshock posted... Because the average person is totally in a position to negotiate their wages. If you're worth anything they are. I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:906898007] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>Really? I just got a huge raise and yearly bonus 6 months ago :)</quote> I guess that means there's no problem for the american workers at large then.</quote> It's on them to negotiate their worth or acquire skills to enter a new field. Don't be mad that Walmart isn't providing them with a 3 story house and 2 cars for entry level work. <cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>Because the average person is totally in a position to negotiate their wages. </quote> If you're worth anything they are. I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 08/14/18 11:01:26 PM #7:	Why doesn't someone get Trump to push the "wages" lever up then? --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:906898616] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>Why doesn't someone get Trump to push the "wages" lever up then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/14/18 11:14:21 PM #8:	SK8T3R215 posted... Why doesn't someone get Trump to push the "wages" lever up then? Careful, TC might actually end up believing that there really is a wages lever we just need to manually adjust. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:906899236] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote>Why doesn't someone get Trump to push the "wages" lever up then?</quote> Careful, TC might actually end up believing that there really is a wages lever we just need to manually adjust.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Behaviorism 08/14/18 11:14:34 PM #9:	iClockwork posted... frozenshock posted... iClockwork posted... Really? I just got a huge raise and yearly bonus 6 months ago :) I guess that means there's no problem for the american workers at large then. It's on them to negotiate their worth or acquire skills to enter a new field. Don't be mad that Walmart isn't providing them with a 3 story house and 2 cars for entry level work. frozenshock posted... Because the average person is totally in a position to negotiate their wages. If you're worth anything they are. I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food. Sure you did --- In the ashes of Taryn Terrell rises Scarlett Bordeaux <cite>Behaviorism posted [p:906899246] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>Really? I just got a huge raise and yearly bonus 6 months ago :)</quote> I guess that means there's no problem for the american workers at large then.</quote> It's on them to negotiate their worth or acquire skills to enter a new field. Don't be mad that Walmart isn't providing them with a 3 story house and 2 cars for entry level work. <cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>Because the average person is totally in a position to negotiate their wages. </quote> If you're worth anything they are. I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food.</quote> Sure you did</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 08/14/18 11:19:19 PM #10:	Don't be mad that Walmart isn't providing them with a 3 story house and 2 cars for entry level work. Oh iClockwork youre funny --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:906899474] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><quote>Don't be mad that Walmart isn't providing them with a 3 story house and 2 cars for entry level work.</quote> Oh iClockwork youre funny</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWing 08/14/18 11:20:07 PM #11:	iClockwork posted... I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food. Calling bullshit on this <cite>BWing posted [p:906899517] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food.</quote> Calling bullshit on this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 08/14/18 11:22:14 PM #12:	BWing posted... iClockwork posted... I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food. Calling bullshit on this Me as well. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:906899612] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food.</quote> Calling bullshit on this</quote> Me as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 08/14/18 11:22:20 PM #13:	BWing posted... iClockwork posted... I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food. Calling bullshit on this that's the quality of posts to expect when trolling isn't against the rules. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:906899620] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food.</quote> Calling bullshit on this</quote> that's the quality of posts to expect when trolling isn't against the rules.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 08/14/18 11:35:51 PM #14:	BWing posted... iClockwork posted... I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food. Calling bullshit on this Yup sure have. You work for about 4-6 months learning multiple departments or front and back, how to open and close. Show ambition and show you have value as employee. Then you go and let managment know you need to be compensated for it and don't be scared to leave. Follow through and you will get the raise. The one time I didn't I got a call 3 days later. You don't believe it because you're too scared to try it. I worked for them not because of them. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:906900245] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food.</quote> Calling bullshit on this</quote> Yup sure have. You work for about 4-6 months learning multiple departments or front and back, how to open and close. Show ambition and show you have value as employee. Then you go and let managment know you need to be compensated for it and don't be scared to leave. Follow through and you will get the raise. The one time I didn't I got a call 3 days later. You don't believe it because you're too scared to try it. I worked for them not because of them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
X-Pac_Heat 08/14/18 11:36:30 PM #15:	I keep hearing this, but all my family that are in the union won't shut up about how much fucking money they are making right now so... <cite>X-Pac_Heat posted [p:906900278] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>I keep hearing this, but all my family that are in the union won't shut up about how much fucking money they are making right now so...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 08/14/18 11:37:18 PM #16:	I got an 8000 dollar raise last week Have fun though guys --- Come check out my community board for NEET discussions: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1467-neet-discussions <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:906900309] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>I got an 8000 dollar raise last week Have fun though guys</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/14/18 11:38:09 PM #17:	Suddenly its trumps fault american companies are greedy pieces of shit --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:906900348] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>Suddenly its trumps fault american companies are greedy pieces of shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 08/14/18 11:38:38 PM #18:	Yeah no. --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. <cite>eggcorn posted [p:906900359] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>Yeah no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
L0Z 08/14/18 11:39:12 PM #19:	If all employees had their wages raised guess what. Inflation would follow. Just like when tariffs will be implemented companies wont stand for it and pass the cost of to the end user <cite>L0Z posted [p:906900382] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>If all employees had their wages raised guess what. Inflation would follow. Just like when tariffs will be implemented companies wont stand for it and pass the cost of to the end user</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/14/18 11:39:15 PM #20:	BWing posted... iClockwork posted... I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food. Calling bullshit on this Hes telling the truth. What he neglected to tell you is that he has worked 0 jobs ever. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:906900384] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote> I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food.</quote> Calling bullshit on this</quote> Hes telling the truth. What he neglected to tell you is that he has worked 0 jobs ever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Schwarber 08/14/18 11:39:40 PM #21:	Wait there aren't people that legitimately take iClockwork at face value are there? lol --- https://imgur.com/iQXgYOx https://imgur.com/l3frhSF https://imgur.com/HM1Hjby https://imgur.com/bvsFH0H - drawn by Yaridovich <cite>Schwarber posted [p:906900400] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>Wait there aren't people that legitimately take iClockwork at face value are there? lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 08/14/18 11:43:16 PM #22:	Rika_Furude posted... BWing posted... iClockwork posted... I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food. Calling bullshit on this Hes telling the truth. What he neglected to tell you is that he has worked 0 jobs ever. Says the kid who admits to spending his college years playing anime sex games instead of socializing and how has now let it become an addiction to the point of choosing it over sleep. Yup hes a quite the inspiration. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:906900553] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote> I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food.</quote> Calling bullshit on this</quote> Hes telling the truth. What he neglected to tell you is that he has worked 0 jobs ever.</quote> Says the kid who admits to spending his college years playing anime sex games instead of socializing and how has now let it become an addiction to the point of choosing it over sleep. Yup hes a quite the inspiration.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchiePeck 08/15/18 1:13:01 AM #24:	You SHOULD be negotiating your wages in every job other than unskilled work like retail/fast-food/call centers etc You have a skill that is in demand and that the company needs. Know your worth. <cite>ArchiePeck posted [p:906904058] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>You SHOULD be negotiating your wages in every job other than unskilled work like retail/fast-food/call centers etc You have a skill that is in demand and that the company needs. Know your worth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWLurker 08/15/18 1:14:08 AM #25:	ArchiePeck posted... You SHOULD be negotiating your wages in every job other than unskilled work like retail/fast-food/call centers etc You have a skill that is in demand and that the company needs. Know your worth. The unskilled part was what I was calling bullshit on. Fast food negotiation of wages? Give me a break. <cite>BWLurker posted [p:906904104] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>ArchiePeck posted...</cite> <quote>You SHOULD be negotiating your wages in every job other than unskilled work like retail/fast-food/call centers etc You have a skill that is in demand and that the company needs. Know your worth.</quote> The unskilled part was what I was calling bullshit on. Fast food negotiation of wages? Give me a break.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6 08/15/18 1:18:32 AM #26:	Maybe we could give rich people some more money and see if that fixes things. --- //constant loneliness// --- Steam and Fortnite: billcom6 My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs <cite>billcom6 posted [p:906904272] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>Maybe we could give rich people some more money and see if that fixes things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 08/15/18 1:19:24 AM #27:	Rika_Furude posted... Suddenly its trumps fault american companies are greedy pieces of shit imo it's some of everyone's fault. realtor's for not having reasonable prices on homes and businesses for not giving a decent wage to work. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:906904300] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Suddenly its trumps fault american companies are greedy pieces of shit</quote> imo it's some of everyone's fault. realtor's for not having reasonable prices on homes and businesses for not giving a decent wage to work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinksLiege 08/15/18 1:20:23 AM #28:	>_> How do people still take iClockwork seriously? How obvious does a [REDACTED TO AVOID MODDING] need to be before people stop taking the bait? --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. <cite>LinksLiege posted [p:906904334] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>>_> How do people still take iClockwork seriously? How obvious does a [REDACTED TO AVOID MODDING] need to be before people stop taking the bait?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 08/15/18 1:21:38 AM #29:	LinksLiege posted... >_> How do people still take iClockwork seriously? How obvious does a [REDACTED TO AVOID MODDING] need to be before people stop taking the bait? why did he take out the cooper clan :(. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:906904385] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinksLiege posted...</cite> <quote>>_> How do people still take iClockwork seriously? How obvious does a [REDACTED TO AVOID MODDING] need to be before people stop taking the bait?</quote> why did he take out the cooper clan :(.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cosmic_Diabetic 08/15/18 1:27:00 AM #30:	L0Z posted... If all employees had their wages raised guess what. Inflation would follow. Just like when tariffs will be implemented companies wont stand for it and pass the cost of to the end user Inflation wouldn't follow. It is already leading the way. Wages just aren't following. --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." <cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted [p:906904603] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>L0Z posted...</cite> <quote>If all employees had their wages raised guess what. Inflation would follow. Just like when tariffs will be implemented companies wont stand for it and pass the cost of to the end user</quote> Inflation wouldn't follow. It is already leading the way. Wages just aren't following.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmpV2 08/15/18 1:28:55 AM #31:	iClockwork posted... frozenshock posted... iClockwork posted... Really? I just got a huge raise and yearly bonus 6 months ago :) I guess that means there's no problem for the american workers at large then. It's on them to negotiate their worth or acquire skills to enter a new field. Don't be mad that Walmart isn't providing them with a 3 story house and 2 cars for entry level work. frozenshock posted... Because the average person is totally in a position to negotiate their wages. If you're worth anything they are. I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food. Lol, a Trump supporter pretending that they have negotiation skills. Kinda like Trump himself! <cite>AmpV2 posted [p:906904688] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>Really? I just got a huge raise and yearly bonus 6 months ago :)</quote> I guess that means there's no problem for the american workers at large then.</quote> It's on them to negotiate their worth or acquire skills to enter a new field. Don't be mad that Walmart isn't providing them with a 3 story house and 2 cars for entry level work. <cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>Because the average person is totally in a position to negotiate their wages. </quote> If you're worth anything they are. I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food.</quote> Lol, a Trump supporter pretending that they have negotiation skills. Kinda like Trump himself!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
butthole666 08/15/18 1:29:59 AM #32:	Yeah I cant afford to survive lol I got a $150 ticket today for putting something in google maps, have to sue a guy who hit & ran me because he doesnt have insurance, have $2000 worth of repairs (unrelated to previous incidents) to get done on my car, have to find a place to live because living with my abusive father is giving me hypertension, and have to still feed myself and pay monthly bills I make $11.80 and hour --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s <cite>butthole666 posted [p:906904737] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I cant afford to survive lol I got a $150 ticket today for putting something in google maps, have to sue a guy who hit & ran me because he doesnt have insurance, have $2000 worth of repairs (unrelated to previous incidents) to get done on my car, have to find a place to live because living with my abusive father is giving me hypertension, and have to still feed myself and pay monthly bills I make $11.80 and hour</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 08/15/18 1:33:37 AM #33:	if he has to save up for a place. it's first, last and deposit. if can make all 3 you're set. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:906904879] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>if he has to save up for a place. it's first, last and deposit. if can make all 3 you're set.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0AbsoluteZero0 08/15/18 1:38:28 AM #34:	LinksLiege posted... >_> How do people still take iClockwork seriously? How obvious does a [REDACTED TO AVOID MODDING] need to be before people stop taking the bait? Yeah, Ive been saying this for a while lol --- -The Admirable <cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted [p:906905058] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinksLiege posted...</cite> <quote>>_> How do people still take iClockwork seriously? How obvious does a [REDACTED TO AVOID MODDING] need to be before people stop taking the bait?</quote> Yeah, Ive been saying this for a while lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 08/15/18 1:38:39 AM #35:	AmpV2 posted... Lol, a Trump supporter pretending that they have negotiation skills. Kinda like Trump himself! I don't support Trump... I'm a registered Democrat who voted for Bernie... It isn't so much as a negotiation as it is a demand since i'm always willing to walk away. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:906905063] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmpV2 posted...</cite> <quote>Lol, a Trump supporter pretending that they have negotiation skills. Kinda like Trump himself! </quote> I don't support Trump... I'm a registered Democrat who voted for Bernie... It isn't so much as a negotiation as it is a demand since i'm always willing to walk away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmpV2 08/15/18 1:40:02 AM #36:	iClockwork posted... AmpV2 posted... Lol, a Trump supporter pretending that they have negotiation skills. Kinda like Trump himself! I don't support Trump... I'm a registered Democrat who voted for Bernie... Yeah, sure you are. <cite>AmpV2 posted [p:906905114] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmpV2 posted...</cite> <quote>Lol, a Trump supporter pretending that they have negotiation skills. Kinda like Trump himself! </quote> I don't support Trump... I'm a registered Democrat who voted for Bernie... </quote> Yeah, sure you are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DavidWong 08/15/18 1:42:41 AM #37:	Hey, welcome to Australia. Except you don't get any of the perks of living in a fucking expensive country like free healthcare, guaranteed superannuation, guaranteed four weeks paid vacation every year and no fear of being shot in the street. --- COOK WITH A GEORGE FOREMAN GRILL JUST TO DRINK OUT THE DRIP TRAY <cite>DavidWong posted [p:906905208] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>Hey, welcome to Australia. Except you don't get any of the perks of living in a fucking expensive country like free healthcare, guaranteed superannuation, guaranteed four weeks paid vacation every year and no fear of being shot in the street.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 08/15/18 1:44:24 AM #38:	DavidWong posted... Hey, welcome to Australia. Except you don't get any of the perks of living in a fucking expensive country like free healthcare, guaranteed superannuation, guaranteed four weeks paid vacation every year and no fear of being shot in the street. Australia has those dingo's. those are a plus. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:906905262] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>DavidWong posted...</cite> <quote>Hey, welcome to Australia. Except you don't get any of the perks of living in a fucking expensive country like free healthcare, guaranteed superannuation, guaranteed four weeks paid vacation every year and no fear of being shot in the street.</quote> Australia has those dingo's. those are a plus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 08/15/18 1:44:27 AM #39:	AmpV2 posted... iClockwork posted... AmpV2 posted... Lol, a Trump supporter pretending that they have negotiation skills. Kinda like Trump himself! I don't support Trump... I'm a registered Democrat who voted for Bernie... Yeah, sure you are. Yup been registered as a Democrat in every state I've lived in for the past 10 years. I was an edgy Independent for a year when I turned 18. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:906905265] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmpV2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmpV2 posted...</cite> <quote>Lol, a Trump supporter pretending that they have negotiation skills. Kinda like Trump himself! </quote> I don't support Trump... I'm a registered Democrat who voted for Bernie... </quote> Yeah, sure you are.</quote> Yup been registered as a Democrat in every state I've lived in for the past 10 years. I was an edgy Independent for a year when I turned 18.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 08/15/18 1:44:45 AM #40:	fenderbender321 posted... So the article is saying that Americans largely don't care about their wages enough for them to negotiate or relocate or do any of those things that accelerate wage growth? More like the GOP has done everything they can to kill Unions and prevent workers from being able to negotiate. X-Pac_Heat posted... I keep hearing this, but all my family that are in the union won't shut up about how much fucking money they are making right now so... Your family should be grateful they still have a Union. >_> --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:906905279] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>So the article is saying that Americans largely don't care about their wages enough for them to negotiate or relocate or do any of those things that accelerate wage growth?</quote> More like the GOP has done everything they can to kill Unions and prevent workers from being able to negotiate. <cite>X-Pac_Heat posted...</cite> <quote>I keep hearing this, but all my family that are in the union won't shut up about how much fucking money they are making right now so...</quote> Your family should be grateful they still have a Union. >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shlomobergberg 08/15/18 2:39:26 AM #41:	Meh. I got a 3% raise in June, and an 11% annual bonus last week. <cite>shlomobergberg posted [p:906907079] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>Meh. I got a 3% raise in June, and an 11% annual bonus last week.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/15/18 3:27:55 AM #42:	iClockwork posted... Rika_Furude posted... BWing posted... iClockwork posted... I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food. Calling bullshit on this Hes telling the truth. What he neglected to tell you is that he has worked 0 jobs ever. Says the kid who admits to spending his college years playing anime sex games instead of socializing and how has now let it become an addiction to the point of choosing it over sleep. Yup hes a quite the inspiration. you made that all up based off a topic i made about staying up late 2 nights in a row this week lol. this is why everyone shits on you. --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:906908480] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote> I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food.</quote> Calling bullshit on this</quote> Hes telling the truth. What he neglected to tell you is that he has worked 0 jobs ever.</quote> Says the kid who admits to spending his college years playing anime sex games instead of socializing and how has now let it become an addiction to the point of choosing it over sleep. Yup hes a quite the inspiration.</quote> you made that all up based off a topic i made about staying up late 2 nights in a row this week lol. this is why everyone shits on you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 08/15/18 3:59:42 AM #43:	Rika_Furude posted... you made that all up based off a topic i made about staying up late 2 nights in a row this week lol. this is why everyone shits on you. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76900905/906848457 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76900905/906840292 <cite>iClockwork posted [p:906909221] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>you made that all up based off a topic i made about staying up late 2 nights in a row this week lol. this is why everyone shits on you. </quote> https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76900905/906848457 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76900905/906840292</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Wombat 08/15/18 4:16:20 AM #44:	frozenshock posted... iClockwork posted... Really? I just got a huge raise and yearly bonus 6 months ago :) I guess that means there's no problem for the american workers at large then. I too just got a rather large raise a few weeks ago (~17%), I couldn't care less about "American workers at large". They don't support my family. If they're not making enough, get better jobs, or better skills to get better jobs. shnangyboos posted... BWing posted... iClockwork posted... I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food. Calling bullshit on this Me as well. It's really weird how many of you don't see wage negotiation as part of the hiring process... Have you guys ever had a job? When I'm interviewing potential candidates I think it's weird when they DON'T negotiate wages (based on previous experience of course). --- Currently planning a group RP set in the Metal Gear world, where death is as temporary as the alliances PM me to join/ask questions about it. <cite>Lord_Wombat posted [p:906909596] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>Really? I just got a huge raise and yearly bonus 6 months ago :)</quote> I guess that means there's no problem for the american workers at large then.</quote> I too just got a rather large raise a few weeks ago (~17%), I couldn't care less about "American workers at large". They don't support my family. If they're not making enough, get better jobs, or better skills to get better jobs. <cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food.</quote> Calling bullshit on this</quote> Me as well.</quote> It's really weird how many of you don't see wage negotiation as part of the hiring process... Have you guys ever had a job? When I'm interviewing potential candidates I think it's weird when they DON'T negotiate wages (based on previous experience of course).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 08/15/18 4:26:14 AM #45:	frozenshock posted... Because the average person is totally in a position to negotiate their wages. Everyone is in a position to negotiate anything --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel <cite>thelovefist posted [p:906909779] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>Because the average person is totally in a position to negotiate their wages.</quote> Everyone is in a position to negotiate anything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 08/15/18 5:18:41 AM #46:	Wombat, I don't think anyone believes no one negotiates for better pay, but dude said he successfully negotiated higher wages in retail and fast food. Maybe it happened, but I'd be a fool to just believe it. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:906910751] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote>Wombat, I don't think anyone believes no one negotiates for better pay, but dude said he successfully negotiated higher wages in retail and fast food. Maybe it happened, but I'd be a fool to just believe it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 08/15/18 5:45:26 AM #47:	shnangyboos posted... Wombat, I don't think anyone believes no one negotiates for better pay, but dude said he successfully negotiated higher wages in retail and fast food. Maybe it happened, but I'd be a fool to just believe it. It happens. I did it at one point, and got two people fired because i ended up doing their jobs too on an almost daily basis while they fucked off, at a retail place. Negotiated, was about to get denied, brought that up and told my boss it was basically my routine now. He checked in to it. I got a pretty damn big raise and they got canned. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:906911296] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>Wombat, I don't think anyone believes no one negotiates for better pay, but dude said he successfully negotiated higher wages in retail and fast food. Maybe it happened, but I'd be a fool to just believe it.</quote> It happens. I did it at one point, and got two people fired because i ended up doing their jobs too on an almost daily basis while they fucked off, at a retail place. Negotiated, was about to get denied, brought that up and told my boss it was basically my routine now. He checked in to it. I got a pretty damn big raise and they got canned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lunar_Savage 08/15/18 5:45:37 AM #48:	Lord_Wombat posted... frozenshock posted... iClockwork posted... Really? I just got a huge raise and yearly bonus 6 months ago :) I guess that means there's no problem for the american workers at large then. I too just got a rather large raise a few weeks ago (~17%), I couldn't care less about "American workers at large". They don't support my family. If they're not making enough, get better jobs, or better skills to get better jobs. shnangyboos posted... BWing posted... iClockwork posted... I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food. Calling bullshit on this Me as well. It's really weird how many of you don't see wage negotiation as part of the hiring process... Have you guys ever had a job? When I'm interviewing potential candidates I think it's weird when they DON'T negotiate wages (based on previous experience of course). Yeah, that's because employers have been stomping on American workers for decades and during the interview process way too many employers will turn you down for just mentioning the wage. --- Number of Mega Cookies given: (::::) 29 Tips top hat, adjusts monocle, and walks away with a cane. And yes, that IS Mr. Peanut laying unconscious on the curb <cite>Lunar_Savage posted [p:906911297] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lord_Wombat posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>Really? I just got a huge raise and yearly bonus 6 months ago :)</quote> I guess that means there's no problem for the american workers at large then.</quote> I too just got a rather large raise a few weeks ago (~17%), I couldn't care less about "American workers at large". They don't support my family. If they're not making enough, get better jobs, or better skills to get better jobs. <cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BWing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>I've negotiated my wage at EVERY job i've ever worked, even in retail and fast food.</quote> Calling bullshit on this</quote> Me as well.</quote> It's really weird how many of you don't see wage negotiation as part of the hiring process... Have you guys ever had a job? When I'm interviewing potential candidates I think it's weird when they DON'T negotiate wages (based on previous experience of course).</quote> Yeah, that's because employers have been stomping on American workers for decades and during the interview process way too many employers will turn you down for just mentioning the wage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 08/15/18 5:48:05 AM #49:	shnangyboos posted... Wombat, I don't think anyone believes no one negotiates for better pay, but dude said he successfully negotiated higher wages in retail and fast food. Maybe it happened, but I'd be a fool to just believe it. Yup I absolutely did. Again I learned quickly how to go above and beyond because that would be the leverage I needed to gain a higher wage. I started as a 16 year old fryer. In two months I learned how to run both the grill and also bun prep. In the following 2 months I learned to close down the store, run a register, and prep all the salads, soups, condiments, etc; for the next day. After 4 months I went to the manager and told her that I had learned all these skills and was reliably on time and hadn't called in like every other high school worker had been. I wanted my yearly review and raise now since I had learned the skills that demanded the higher wage. I was currently getting minimum wage and I could get another job that payed the same within the week. I started there at $5.25 and after 2 years, my senior year of high school, I had negotiated all the way up to $9.80 She gave it to me and I stayed for another 2 years. I had done it once and realized every wage is negotiable and did it again at both Sears and a local Supermarket I worked for in College. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:906911345] in American w... [t:76902302]...</cite> <quote><cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>Wombat, I don't think anyone believes no one negotiates for better pay, but dude said he successfully negotiated higher wages in retail and fast food. Maybe it happened, but I'd be a fool to just believe it.</quote> Yup I absolutely did. Again I learned quickly how to go above and beyond because that would be the leverage I needed to gain a higher wage. I started as a 16 year old fryer. In two months I learned how to run both the grill and also bun prep. In the following 2 months I learned to close down the store, run a register, and prep all the salads, soups, condiments, etc; for the next day. After 4 months I went to the manager and told her that I had learned all these skills and was reliably on time and hadn't called in like every other high school worker had been. I wanted my yearly review and raise now since I had learned the skills that demanded the higher wage. I was currently getting minimum wage and I could get another job that payed the same within the week. I started there at $5.25 and after 2 years, my senior year of high school, I had negotiated all the way up to $9.80 She gave it to me and I stayed for another 2 years. I had done it once and realized every wage is negotiable and did it again at both Sears and a local Supermarket I worked for in College.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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