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sktgamer_13dude 08/02/18 7:57:15 PM #101:	If you come into possession of a stolen vehicle, you dont get to keep it even if youre not the one who stole it. Also rofl at how incredibly wrong DJL always is in any topic he posts in. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:906169148] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote>If you come into possession of a stolen vehicle, you dont get to keep it even if youre not the one who stole it. Also rofl at how incredibly wrong DJL always is in any topic he posts in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/02/18 8:01:54 PM #102:	sktgamer_13dude posted... If you come into possession of a stolen vehicle, you dont get to keep it even if youre not the one who stole it. Also rofl at how incredibly wrong DJL always is in any topic he posts in. damn youre ok with this? wtf --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:906169390] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>If you come into possession of a stolen vehicle, you dont get to keep it even if youre not the one who stole it. Also rofl at how incredibly wrong DJL always is in any topic he posts in.</quote> damn youre ok with this? wtf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 08/02/18 8:05:26 PM #103:	sktgamer_13dude posted... If you come into possession of a stolen vehicle, you dont get to keep it even if youre not the one who stole it. Also rofl at how incredibly wrong DJL always is in any topic he posts in. But should the car be given to the first thief and taken from the thief who stole it from him? According to some posters, that would be the equivalent analogy. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:906169583] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>If you come into possession of a stolen vehicle, you dont get to keep it even if youre not the one who stole it. Also rofl at how incredibly wrong DJL always is in any topic he posts in.</quote> But should the car be given to the first thief and taken from the thief who stole it from him? According to some posters, that would be the equivalent analogy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Roxborough4Ever 08/02/18 8:06:57 PM #104:	these are alex jones levels of lies and bullshit.... --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. <cite>Roxborough4Ever posted [p:906169672] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote>these are alex jones levels of lies and bullshit....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 08/02/18 8:10:03 PM #105:	FLUFFYGERM posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... If you come into possession of a stolen vehicle, you dont get to keep it even if youre not the one who stole it. Also rofl at how incredibly wrong DJL always is in any topic he posts in. damn youre ok with this? wtf I don't think it should be violent or something that happens overnight, but yeah, there should be a shift of power. Obviously it's still a hot topic and a lot of people want it to happen in South Africa, you know the actual people living there, so maybe they know more about the situation than you do. But I forgot that Proudclad thinks he knows everything and that his opinion is correct in every single situation. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:906169848] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>If you come into possession of a stolen vehicle, you dont get to keep it even if youre not the one who stole it. Also rofl at how incredibly wrong DJL always is in any topic he posts in.</quote> damn youre ok with this? wtf</quote> I don't think it should be violent or something that happens overnight, but yeah, there should be a shift of power. Obviously it's still a hot topic and a lot of people want it to happen in South Africa, you know the actual people living there, so maybe they know more about the situation than you do. But I forgot that Proudclad thinks he knows everything and that his opinion is correct in every single situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
snake1989 08/02/18 8:10:36 PM #106:	Absolutely deplorable, even if I understand why they feel it is justifiable. SA is going to have a rough future ahead of itself. --- "A man chooses. A slave obeys."-Andrew Ryan <cite>snake1989 posted [p:906169893] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely deplorable, even if I understand why they feel it is justifiable. SA is going to have a rough future ahead of itself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 08/02/18 8:24:39 PM #107:	Th ANC needs to be arrested and tried for crimes against humanity and hate crimes. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:906170650] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote>Th ANC needs to be arrested and tried for crimes against humanity and hate crimes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/02/18 8:55:16 PM #108:	You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:906172183] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote>You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gmanthebest 08/02/18 9:08:52 PM #109:	Tag for later --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. <cite>gmanthebest posted [p:906172835] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote>Tag for later</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 08/02/18 9:20:35 PM #110:	Literal ethnic cleansing. Hopefully the U.S will act appropriately. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:906173453] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote>Literal ethnic cleansing. Hopefully the U.S will act appropriately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 08/02/18 9:24:53 PM #111:	Think it's time for the US to go to south africa and spread some freedom --- \|)\|_ \|_\_/\|)\|_\|)\| - RE expert44 \|\\|__ \|__/\\| \|__\|\_\| This is RE expert44 (b^.^b)Have a nice day... <cite>Middle hope posted [p:906173657] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote>Think it's time for the US to go to south africa and spread some freedom</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 08/02/18 9:31:48 PM #112:	FLUFFYGERM posted... You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America. They will if we let them. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:906174003] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America.</quote> They will if we let them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alphamon 08/02/18 9:34:59 PM #113:	and this is why the usa is fucked. paranoid white supremacists . Capn Circus posted... They will if we let them. <cite>Alphamon posted [p:906174164] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote>and this is why the usa is fucked. paranoid white supremacists . <cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote>They will if we let them. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 08/02/18 9:36:03 PM #114:	DarkTransient posted... That's nothing, in the US, the government lets people say mean things about minorities. The fact that you don't know America's history of taking land form minorities says alot. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:906174219] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>That's nothing, in the US, the government lets people say mean things about minorities.</quote> The fact that you don't know America's history of taking land form minorities says alot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KobeSystem 08/02/18 9:38:35 PM #115:	Capn Circus posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America. They will if we let them. You clowns aren't helping your cause fyi If the SA black people want to take back their land that's their business but forcing out the only farmers who know what they're doing is bad for your country. --- http://www.last.fm/user/KobeSystem92 \| https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/725087214401671170/02UGgybe_400x400.jpg WIN SEXANGELS GREATKERZ <cite>KobeSystem posted [p:906174343] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America.</quote> They will if we let them.</quote> You clowns aren't helping your cause fyi If the SA black people want to take back their land that's their business but forcing out the only farmers who know what they're doing is bad for your country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BarneyBosco 08/02/18 9:39:24 PM #116:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Literal ethnic cleansing. Hopefully the U.S will act appropriately. --- http://celebmafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Ana-Ivanovic-5.jpg PSN J_Frost77 search my PSN to join the Divinity Original Sin Community <cite>BarneyBosco posted [p:906174383] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Literal ethnic cleansing. Hopefully the U.S will act appropriately.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/02/18 9:39:28 PM #117:	KobeSystem posted... If the SA black people want to take back their land that's their business It isn't their land simply by virtue of their skin color. It belongs to the farmers who purchased it / had it for generations. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:906174389] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>KobeSystem posted...</cite> <quote>If the SA black people want to take back their land that's their business</quote> It isn't their land simply by virtue of their skin color. It belongs to the farmers who purchased it / had it for generations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 08/02/18 9:40:22 PM #118:	FLUFFYGERM posted... You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America. It already was --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:906174438] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America.</quote> It already was</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/02/18 9:41:39 PM #119:	Bishop9800 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America. It already was Does that mean you want it to happen again? IE seize land/assets from white people simply because some white people long ago colonized America? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:906174509] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America.</quote> It already was</quote> Does that mean you want it to happen again? IE seize land/assets from white people simply because some white people long ago colonized America?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 08/02/18 9:42:12 PM #120:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Bishop9800 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America. It already was Does that mean you want it to happen again? IE seize land/assets from white people simply because some white people long ago colonized America? Did I say that? --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:906174533] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America.</quote> It already was</quote> Does that mean you want it to happen again? IE seize land/assets from white people simply because some white people long ago colonized America?</quote> Did I say that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/02/18 9:43:27 PM #121:	Bishop9800 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Bishop9800 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America. It already was Does that mean you want it to happen again? IE seize land/assets from white people simply because some white people long ago colonized America? Did I say that? Have a fucking backbone and state your position instead of just weaseling around with your hot takes and witty one liners. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:906174596] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America.</quote> It already was</quote> Does that mean you want it to happen again? IE seize land/assets from white people simply because some white people long ago colonized America?</quote> Did I say that?</quote> Have a fucking backbone and state your position instead of just weaseling around with your hot takes and witty one liners.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 08/02/18 9:46:50 PM #122:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Bishop9800 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Bishop9800 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America. It already was Does that mean you want it to happen again? IE seize land/assets from white people simply because some white people long ago colonized America? Did I say that? Have a fucking backbone and state your position instead of just weaseling around with your hot takes and witty one liners. I've already did. It's not my fault that you're too feeble minded to understand. --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:906174775] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America.</quote> It already was</quote> Does that mean you want it to happen again? IE seize land/assets from white people simply because some white people long ago colonized America?</quote> Did I say that?</quote> Have a fucking backbone and state your position instead of just weaseling around with your hot takes and witty one liners.</quote> I've already did. It's not my fault that you're too feeble minded to understand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 08/02/18 9:46:59 PM #123:	Alphamon posted... and this is why the usa is f**ed. paranoid white supremacists . Lol, tell me why you think this couldn't happen in the U.S. one day and why people shouldn't be concerned here. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks* <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:906174781] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alphamon posted...</cite> <quote>and this is why the usa is f***ed. paranoid white supremacists .</quote> Lol, tell me why you think this couldn't happen in the U.S. one day and why people shouldn't be concerned here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/02/18 9:48:01 PM #124:	Bishop9800 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Bishop9800 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Bishop9800 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America. It already was Does that mean you want it to happen again? IE seize land/assets from white people simply because some white people long ago colonized America? Did I say that? Have a fucking backbone and state your position instead of just weaseling around with your hot takes and witty one liners. I've already did. It's not my fault that you're too feeble minded to understand. Which post #? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:906174832] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America.</quote> It already was</quote> Does that mean you want it to happen again? IE seize land/assets from white people simply because some white people long ago colonized America?</quote> Did I say that?</quote> Have a fucking backbone and state your position instead of just weaseling around with your hot takes and witty one liners.</quote> I've already did. It's not my fault that you're too feeble minded to understand.</quote> Which post #?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alphamon 08/02/18 9:50:43 PM #125:	Capn Circus posted... Alphamon posted... and this is why the usa is f*ed. paranoid white supremacists . Lol, tell me why you think this couldn't happen in the U.S. one day and why people shouldn't be concerned here. because whites are the majority with all the wealth, power and guns and military backing. if anything it will be the opposite where white right wingers will ethnically cleanse the usa muslim population in the name of national security <cite>Alphamon posted [p:906174980] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alphamon posted...</cite> <quote>and this is why the usa is f*ed. paranoid white supremacists .</quote> Lol, tell me why you think this couldn't happen in the U.S. one day and why people shouldn't be concerned here.</quote> because whites are the majority with all the wealth, power and guns and military backing. if anything it will be the opposite where white right wingers will ethnically cleanse the usa muslim population in the name of national security</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
untrustful 08/02/18 9:51:01 PM #126:	The government would've been better off starting a free grant/tuition program for blacks looking into farming and setting aside some good government land for that, along with providing no interest loans or having black farmers share farming equipment bought/rented by the government. Perhaps there's limitations in this kind of plan, but it's better to jump those hurdles then outright transferring farmland from one person to another with seemingly no requirements on the government sanctioned taker of that land. --- My Mario Maker Levels https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/untrustful?type=posted <cite>untrustful posted [p:906174999] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote>The government would've been better off starting a free grant/tuition program for blacks looking into farming and setting aside some good government land for that, along with providing no interest loans or having black farmers share farming equipment bought/rented by the government. Perhaps there's limitations in this kind of plan, but it's better to jump those hurdles then outright transferring farmland from one person to another with seemingly no requirements on the government sanctioned taker of that land.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/02/18 9:51:57 PM #127:	Alphamon posted... Capn Circus posted... Alphamon posted... and this is why the usa is f*ed. paranoid white supremacists . Lol, tell me why you think this couldn't happen in the U.S. one day and why people shouldn't be concerned here. because whites are the majority with all the wealth, power and guns and military backing. if anything it will be the opposite where white right wingers will ethnically cleanse the usa muslim population in the name of national security Actually, the white population is slated to be a minority in America within the next 30 years. And white enrollment in college + graduation rates have come down in recent years. I believe white people go to college/graduate less than black people now. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:906175037] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alphamon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alphamon posted...</cite> <quote>and this is why the usa is f*ed. paranoid white supremacists .</quote> Lol, tell me why you think this couldn't happen in the U.S. one day and why people shouldn't be concerned here.</quote> because whites are the majority with all the wealth, power and guns and military backing. if anything it will be the opposite where white right wingers will ethnically cleanse the usa muslim population in the name of national security</quote> Actually, the white population is slated to be a minority in America within the next 30 years. And white enrollment in college + graduation rates have come down in recent years. I believe white people go to college/graduate less than black people now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 08/02/18 9:53:28 PM #128:	Capn Circus posted... Alphamon posted... and this is why the usa is f*ed. paranoid white supremacists . Lol, tell me why you think this couldn't happen in the U.S. one day and why people shouldn't be concerned here. Tell us how it could happen. Id LOVE to hear how this could happen in the US, considering Native Americans have such a low % of the American population. Stop being a fucking gimmick for once in your life ffs. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:906175105] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alphamon posted...</cite> <quote>and this is why the usa is f*ed. paranoid white supremacists .</quote> Lol, tell me why you think this couldn't happen in the U.S. one day and why people shouldn't be concerned here.</quote> Tell us how it could happen. Id LOVE to hear how this could happen in the US, considering Native Americans have such a low % of the American population. Stop being a fucking gimmick for once in your life ffs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
White Eagle 08/02/18 9:53:37 PM #129:	Firewerx posted... So after nearly a quarter of a century of foot-dragging by the ANC government over the land issue, whites still own almost all farmland in South Africa? Yet there've been klaxons screaming about an "imminent white genocide" ever since 1994... However you might view the prospect of heavy-handed evictions, it's still pretty fucking far off "kill every white person", and idiots who claim it shows the government's on a knife-edge of mass genocide are actually doing white landowners no favours, because principled opposition to the stupidity, cynicism and injustice of the farm seizures policy gets buried beneath all the bullshit hyperbole. For Chrissake, even anti-apartheid activists who attacked the (far bigger) forced removals of black South Africans under the National Party regime never made the stupid claim that it was the first step on the road to "killing all black people". Eh, idk. I'm not claiming to be an expert on the subject in regards to South Africa, but the situation doesn't feel right and seems a little like something someone could say in March 1994 about "see, decades of majority rule and there's no mass slaughter of Tutsi by the Hutu in Rwanda." It doesn't help allay that feeling when Mandela's wife was way more into anti-white farmer rhetoric than he was when she was alive, similar to how the wife of the Hutu President who got a ceasefire with the RPF and got shot down was a big supporter of the interhamwe herself. --- Detroit Red Wings http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnhlexperts/108545331.jpg <cite>White Eagle posted [p:906175109] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>Firewerx posted...</cite> <quote>So after nearly a quarter of a century of foot-dragging by the ANC government over the land issue, whites still own almost all farmland in South Africa? Yet there've been klaxons screaming about an "imminent white genocide" ever since 1994... However you might view the prospect of heavy-handed evictions, it's still pretty fucking far off "kill every white person", and idiots who claim it shows the government's on a knife-edge of mass genocide are actually doing white landowners no favours, because principled opposition to the stupidity, cynicism and injustice of the farm seizures policy gets buried beneath all the bullshit hyperbole. For Chrissake, even anti-apartheid activists who attacked the (far bigger) forced removals of black South Africans under the National Party regime never made the stupid claim that it was the first step on the road to "killing all black people".</quote> Eh, idk. I'm not claiming to be an expert on the subject in regards to South Africa, but the situation doesn't feel right and seems a little like something someone could say in March 1994 about "see, decades of majority rule and there's no mass slaughter of Tutsi by the Hutu in Rwanda." It doesn't help allay that feeling when Mandela's wife was way more into anti-white farmer rhetoric than he was when she was alive, similar to how the wife of the Hutu President who got a ceasefire with the RPF and got shot down was a big supporter of the interhamwe herself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LJRENEGADE 08/02/18 9:53:50 PM #130:	gunplagirl posted... So if somebody stole your car, then sold it, the person who bought it should be allowed to keep it? Ultimately somebody stole the land from the native citizens and enforced the premise of buying land and ownership of it. Just because it was legal by the invader's policies doesn't make it acceptable. Yeah but once some time goes by, its different than if someone stole your car since you're not even dealing with the original people involved and it just becomes iffy. No matter what you do, there's not gonna be a solution that's 100% fair since both parties at this point are (probably?) innocent of whatever happened before. Hell, a lot of us probably live on land that was stolen from Native Americans, but its not our faults that it was stolen. <cite>LJRENEGADE posted [p:906175119] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>So if somebody stole your car, then sold it, the person who bought it should be allowed to keep it? Ultimately somebody stole the land from the native citizens and enforced the premise of buying land and ownership of it. Just because it was legal by the invader's policies doesn't make it acceptable.</quote> Yeah but once some time goes by, its different than if someone stole your car since you're not even dealing with the original people involved and it just becomes iffy. No matter what you do, there's not gonna be a solution that's 100% fair since both parties at this point are (probably?) innocent of whatever happened before. Hell, a lot of us probably live on land that was stolen from Native Americans, but its not our faults that it was stolen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 08/02/18 9:54:30 PM #131:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Bishop9800 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Bishop9800 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Bishop9800 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America. It already was Does that mean you want it to happen again? IE seize land/assets from white people simply because some white people long ago colonized America? Did I say that? Have a fucking backbone and state your position instead of just weaseling around with your hot takes and witty one liners. I've already did. It's not my fault that you're too feeble minded to understand. Which post #? Let help you out..... You made a statement saying.. "implementing a similar policy in America." I told you that it already had been done. Then you went all on the deep end saying I want it to happen again. (even though it is still going on now. But that's a different story) So I ask you when did I say that. So now you're mad that you didn't get the answer you wanted, and want to say people don't have no backbone and I'm hiding behind "one liners". Wahh! --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:906175151] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America.</quote> It already was</quote> Does that mean you want it to happen again? IE seize land/assets from white people simply because some white people long ago colonized America?</quote> Did I say that?</quote> Have a fucking backbone and state your position instead of just weaseling around with your hot takes and witty one liners.</quote> I've already did. It's not my fault that you're too feeble minded to understand.</quote> Which post #?</quote> Let help you out..... You made a statement saying.. "implementing a similar policy in America." I told you that it already had been done. Then you went all on the deep end saying I want it to happen again. (even though it is still going on now. But that's a different story) So I ask you when did I say that. So now you're mad that you didn't get the answer you wanted, and want to say people don't have no backbone and I'm hiding behind "one liners". Wahh!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 08/02/18 9:55:01 PM #132:	untrustful posted... The government would've been better off starting a free grant/tuition program for blacks looking into farming and setting aside some good government land for that, along with providing no interest loans or having black farmers share farming equipment bought/rented by the government. Perhaps there's limitations in this kind of plan, but it's better to jump those hurdles then outright transferring farmland from one person to another with seemingly no requirements on the government sanctioned taker of that land. It's about punishing and scapegoating the other. Jesus fucking Christ you don't actually think this was anything more than that do you? --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:906175169] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>untrustful posted...</cite> <quote>The government would've been better off starting a free grant/tuition program for blacks looking into farming and setting aside some good government land for that, along with providing no interest loans or having black farmers share farming equipment bought/rented by the government. Perhaps there's limitations in this kind of plan, but it's better to jump those hurdles then outright transferring farmland from one person to another with seemingly no requirements on the government sanctioned taker of that land.</quote> It's about punishing and scapegoating the other. Jesus fucking Christ you don't actually think this was anything more than that do you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 08/02/18 9:55:36 PM #133:	What About Elon Musk? --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:906175207] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote>What About Elon Musk?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/02/18 9:55:47 PM #134:	Bishop9800 posted... How is any race-specific land-seizure policy like this happening in America? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:906175218] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> How is any race-specific land-seizure policy like this happening in America?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 08/02/18 9:58:05 PM #135:	LJRENEGADE posted... gunplagirl posted... So if somebody stole your car, then sold it, the person who bought it should be allowed to keep it? Ultimately somebody stole the land from the native citizens and enforced the premise of buying land and ownership of it. Just because it was legal by the invader's policies doesn't make it acceptable. Yeah but once some time goes by, its different than if someone stole your car since you're not even dealing with the original people involved and it just becomes iffy. No matter what you do, there's not gonna be a solution that's 100% fair since both parties at this point are (probably?) innocent of whatever happened before. Hell, a lot of us probably live on land that was stolen from Native Americans, but its not our faults that it was stolen. That land was purchased anyways, but the current government wont recognize the transaction so this is a poor analogy --- To err is human To arr is pirate <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:906175342] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>LJRENEGADE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>So if somebody stole your car, then sold it, the person who bought it should be allowed to keep it? Ultimately somebody stole the land from the native citizens and enforced the premise of buying land and ownership of it. Just because it was legal by the invader's policies doesn't make it acceptable.</quote> Yeah but once some time goes by, its different than if someone stole your car since you're not even dealing with the original people involved and it just becomes iffy. No matter what you do, there's not gonna be a solution that's 100% fair since both parties at this point are (probably?) innocent of whatever happened before. Hell, a lot of us probably live on land that was stolen from Native Americans, but its not our faults that it was stolen.</quote> That land was purchased anyways, but the current government wont recognize the transaction so this is a poor analogy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alphamon 08/02/18 9:58:54 PM #136:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Alphamon posted... Capn Circus posted... Alphamon posted... and this is why the usa is f*ed. paranoid white supremacists . Lol, tell me why you think this couldn't happen in the U.S. one day and why people shouldn't be concerned here. because whites are the majority with all the wealth, power and guns and military backing. if anything it will be the opposite where white right wingers will ethnically cleanse the usa muslim population in the name of national security Actually, the white population is slated to be a minority in America within the next 30 years. And white enrollment in college + graduation rates have come down in recent years. I believe white people go to college/graduate less than black people now. so in the next 30 years when whites become a slight minority the people who are now minorities will rise up and steal everything the whites have. got it <cite>Alphamon posted [p:906175394] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alphamon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alphamon posted...</cite> <quote>and this is why the usa is f*ed. paranoid white supremacists .</quote> Lol, tell me why you think this couldn't happen in the U.S. one day and why people shouldn't be concerned here.</quote> because whites are the majority with all the wealth, power and guns and military backing. if anything it will be the opposite where white right wingers will ethnically cleanse the usa muslim population in the name of national security</quote> Actually, the white population is slated to be a minority in America within the next 30 years. And white enrollment in college + graduation rates have come down in recent years. I believe white people go to college/graduate less than black people now.</quote> so in the next 30 years when whites become a slight minority the people who are now minorities will rise up and steal everything the whites have. got it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 08/02/18 9:59:32 PM #137:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Bishop9800 posted... How is any race-specific land-seizure policy like this happening in America? He probably thinks "40 acres and a mule" qualifies, not realizing several key differences. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:906175424] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> How is any race-specific land-seizure policy like this happening in America?</quote> He probably thinks "40 acres and a mule" qualifies, not realizing several key differences.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/02/18 10:00:00 PM #138:	Alphamon posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Alphamon posted... Capn Circus posted... Alphamon posted... and this is why the usa is f*ed. paranoid white supremacists . Lol, tell me why you think this couldn't happen in the U.S. one day and why people shouldn't be concerned here. because whites are the majority with all the wealth, power and guns and military backing. if anything it will be the opposite where white right wingers will ethnically cleanse the usa muslim population in the name of national security Actually, the white population is slated to be a minority in America within the next 30 years. And white enrollment in college + graduation rates have come down in recent years. I believe white people go to college/graduate less than black people now. so in the next 30 years when whites become a slight minority the people who are now minorities will rise up and steal everything the whites have. got it I mean, I hope this type of racist rhetoric from the NY Times isn't a precursor to even more flagrant and bigoted anti-white racism because it could easily contribute to a much more toxic race relations environment than we already have. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:906175446] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alphamon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alphamon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alphamon posted...</cite> <quote>and this is why the usa is f*ed. paranoid white supremacists .</quote> Lol, tell me why you think this couldn't happen in the U.S. one day and why people shouldn't be concerned here.</quote> because whites are the majority with all the wealth, power and guns and military backing. if anything it will be the opposite where white right wingers will ethnically cleanse the usa muslim population in the name of national security</quote> Actually, the white population is slated to be a minority in America within the next 30 years. And white enrollment in college + graduation rates have come down in recent years. I believe white people go to college/graduate less than black people now.</quote> so in the next 30 years when whites become a slight minority the people who are now minorities will rise up and steal everything the whites have. got it</quote> I mean, I hope this type of racist rhetoric from the NY Times isn't a precursor to even more flagrant and bigoted anti-white racism because it could easily contribute to a much more toxic race relations environment than we already have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 08/02/18 10:03:37 PM #139:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Bishop9800 posted... How is any race-specific land-seizure policy like this happening in America? Let me guess, you flunked history. Very well.... You can look at history and see how the US did it. They did it to the Native Americans Blacks and to Mexicans. I'm sure you heard the story of Roswell, if you want to go to today, I sure you heard of "Eminent domain". Anarchy_Juiblex posted... He probably thinks "40 acres and a mule" qualifies, not realizing several key differences. No. That's a whole different thing --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:906175649] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> How is any race-specific land-seizure policy like this happening in America?</quote> Let me guess, you flunked history. Very well.... You can look at history and see how the US did it. They did it to the Native Americans Blacks and to Mexicans. I'm sure you heard the story of Roswell, if you want to go to today, I sure you heard of "Eminent domain". <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>He probably thinks "40 acres and a mule" qualifies, not realizing several key differences.</quote> No. That's a whole different thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shamon 08/02/18 10:07:01 PM #140:	LJRENEGADE posted... gunplagirl posted... So if somebody stole your car, then sold it, the person who bought it should be allowed to keep it? Ultimately somebody stole the land from the native citizens and enforced the premise of buying land and ownership of it. Just because it was legal by the invader's policies doesn't make it acceptable. Yeah but once some time goes by, its different than if someone stole your car since you're not even dealing with the original people involved and it just becomes iffy. No matter what you do, there's not gonna be a solution that's 100% fair since both parties at this point are (probably?) innocent of whatever happened before. Hell, a lot of us probably live on land that was stolen from Native Americans, but its not our faults that it was stolen. The future S.Africans will say the same thing so yea now we can get over it. --- "Most people have to act the roles given to them. Then again, most of them haven't even noticed they're acting." - Delita Hyral <cite>Shamon posted [p:906175816] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>LJRENEGADE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>So if somebody stole your car, then sold it, the person who bought it should be allowed to keep it? Ultimately somebody stole the land from the native citizens and enforced the premise of buying land and ownership of it. Just because it was legal by the invader's policies doesn't make it acceptable.</quote> Yeah but once some time goes by, its different than if someone stole your car since you're not even dealing with the original people involved and it just becomes iffy. No matter what you do, there's not gonna be a solution that's 100% fair since both parties at this point are (probably?) innocent of whatever happened before. Hell, a lot of us probably live on land that was stolen from Native Americans, but its not our faults that it was stolen.</quote> The future S.Africans will say the same thing so yea now we can get over it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
newtonwuzvirgin 08/02/18 10:10:46 PM #141:	This is why they march --- I value knowledge over momentary physical manifestations of euphoria. <cite>newtonwuzvirgin posted [p:906175992] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote>This is why they march</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 08/02/18 10:18:57 PM #142:	darkphoenix181 posted... gunplagirl posted... So if somebody stole your car, then sold it, the person who bought it should be allowed to keep it? Ultimately somebody stole the land from the native citizens and enforced the premise of buying land and ownership of it. Just because it was legal by the invader's policies doesn't make it acceptable. Do you own a house or a car gunplgirl? I don't think you're ever going to get an honest answer to that, let alone an explanation as to why all white, black, Asian and other non-native people living in the US right now shouldn't turn over all their property for redistribution. It'll probably just be some special pleading about how that is different and they don't have to follow their own logic. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:906176410] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>So if somebody stole your car, then sold it, the person who bought it should be allowed to keep it? Ultimately somebody stole the land from the native citizens and enforced the premise of buying land and ownership of it. Just because it was legal by the invader's policies doesn't make it acceptable.</quote> Do you own a house or a car gunplgirl?</quote> I don't think you're ever going to get an honest answer to that, let alone an explanation as to why all white, black, Asian and other non-native people living in the US right now shouldn't turn over all their property for redistribution. It'll probably just be some special pleading about how that is different and they don't have to follow their own logic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Bungle- 08/02/18 10:22:55 PM #143:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Bishop9800 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Bishop9800 posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America. It already was Does that mean you want it to happen again? IE seize land/assets from white people simply because some white people long ago colonized America? Did I say that? Have a fucking backbone and state your position instead of just weaseling around with your hot takes and witty one liners. Burn! Do people still say that? --- In the morning I will see - What you were trying to say to me. As I respond into the sink - Need not again hear myself think! <cite>-Bungle- posted [p:906176635] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America.</quote> It already was</quote> Does that mean you want it to happen again? IE seize land/assets from white people simply because some white people long ago colonized America?</quote> Did I say that?</quote> Have a fucking backbone and state your position instead of just weaseling around with your hot takes and witty one liners.</quote> Burn! Do people still say that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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refmon 08/02/18 10:48:35 PM #145:	DarkTransient posted... That's nothing, in the US, the government lets people say mean things about minorities. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:906177863] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>That's nothing, in the US, the government lets people say mean things about minorities.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Firewerx 08/03/18 12:37:26 AM #146:	White Eagle posted... Eh, idk. I'm not claiming to be an expert on the subject in regards to South Africa, but the situation doesn't feel right and seems a little like something someone could say in March 1994 about "see, decades of majority rule and there's no mass slaughter of Tutsi by the Hutu in Rwanda." There are no parallels to Rwanda, whose First and Second Republics had a history of mass slaughter of Tutsi in 1959-64 and 1990-1993. If anything, a closer parallel might be Idi Amin's mass expropriation of Asian-owned businesses in Uganda in 1972. (It was the prelude to the expulsion of around 60,000 Asians who didn't hold Ugandan citizenship, but not "genocide".) - Do I think that land seizures risk economic instability and food supply insecurity, whether short or long term? Yes. - Do I think it's a cynical, populist vote-grabbing exercise filled with empty promises and false expectations, meant to deflect criticism of the ANC government for its economic failures? Yes. - Do I think that confiscation without compensation amounts to theft? Sometimes. - Do I think that rural evictions amount to "genocide" and that the next step is to "kill all white people"? No, I don't. - Is this the biggest, or even the only story about people being dispossessed of their land by governments in Africa in recent years? No, it isn't. - Is the biggest, or even the only news story coming out Africa for me because white farm owners have the same skin colour that I do? No, it isn't. <cite>Firewerx posted [p:906182697] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>White Eagle posted...</cite> <quote>Eh, idk. I'm not claiming to be an expert on the subject in regards to South Africa, but the situation doesn't feel right and seems a little like something someone could say in March 1994 about "see, decades of majority rule and there's no mass slaughter of Tutsi by the Hutu in Rwanda."</quote> There are no parallels to Rwanda, whose First and Second Republics had a history of mass slaughter of Tutsi in 1959-64 and 1990-1993. If anything, a closer parallel might be Idi Amin's mass expropriation of Asian-owned businesses in Uganda in 1972. (It was the prelude to the expulsion of around 60,000 Asians who didn't hold Ugandan citizenship, but not "genocide".) - Do I think that land seizures risk economic instability and food supply insecurity, whether short or long term? Yes. - Do I think it's a cynical, populist vote-grabbing exercise filled with empty promises and false expectations, meant to deflect criticism of the ANC government for its economic failures? Yes. - Do I think that confiscation without compensation amounts to theft? Sometimes. - Do I think that rural evictions amount to "genocide" and that the next step is to "kill all white people"? No, I don't. - Is this the biggest, or even the only story about people being dispossessed of their land by governments in Africa in recent years? No, it isn't. - Is the biggest, or even the only news story coming out Africa for me because white farm owners have the same skin colour that I do? No, it isn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Roxborough4Ever 08/04/18 7:29:16 PM #147:	Alphamon posted... and this is why the usa is fucked. paranoid white supremacists . Capn Circus posted... They will if we let them. you've gone from "it cant happen" to "i want it to happen" to "i want it to happen, but it probably wont, even thought i want it real bad......." --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. <cite>Roxborough4Ever posted [p:906274738] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alphamon posted...</cite> <quote>and this is why the usa is fucked. paranoid white supremacists . <cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote>They will if we let them. </quote></quote> you've gone from "it cant happen" to "i want it to happen" to "i want it to happen, but it probably wont, even thought i want it real bad......."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/04/18 8:53:29 PM #148:	KobeSystem posted... Capn Circus posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America. They will if we let them. You clowns aren't helping your cause fyi If the SA black people want to take back their land that's their business but forcing out the only farmers who know what they're doing is bad for your country. It isn't 'their land.' Never has been. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906278568] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>KobeSystem posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America.</quote> They will if we let them.</quote> You clowns aren't helping your cause fyi If the SA black people want to take back their land that's their business but forcing out the only farmers who know what they're doing is bad for your country.</quote> It isn't 'their land.' Never has been.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Firewerx 08/05/18 9:45:19 AM #149:	darkjedilink posted... KobeSystem posted... Capn Circus posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America. They will if we let them. You clowns aren't helping your cause fyi If the SA black people want to take back their land that's their business but forcing out the only farmers who know what they're doing is bad for your country. It isn't 'their land.' Never has been. Not the story you were telling in post #85. <cite>Firewerx posted [p:906300825] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KobeSystem posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>You can bet some of the usual suspects would love to implement a similar policy in America.</quote> They will if we let them.</quote> You clowns aren't helping your cause fyi If the SA black people want to take back their land that's their business but forcing out the only farmers who know what they're doing is bad for your country.</quote> It isn't 'their land.' Never has been.</quote> Not the story you were telling in post #85.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 08/05/18 9:47:44 AM #150:	It's weird how the usual suspects want to push a story about what's happening in another nation by framing it around the race of those involved. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:906300886] in South Afri... [t:76865007]...</cite> <quote>It's weird how the usual suspects want to push a story about what's happening in another nation by framing it around the race of those involved.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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