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Questionmarktarius
08/02/18 5:11:13 PM
#51:


darkphoenix181 posted...
Milkman5 posted...
imagine being white and not leaving a country that wants to kill all white people


Where would they go?

Ironically, Zimbabwe.
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darkphoenix181
08/02/18 5:12:07 PM
#52:


Still waiting for you guy to quote me verbatim where I said being white in America is hard.

Gave up since you lied and twisted words?
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HiddenRoar
08/02/18 5:12:16 PM
#53:


2019: South Africa experiences unprecedented food shortage, mass starvation, hyperinflation; begs for immediate international aid.
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hyperpowder
08/02/18 5:12:50 PM
#54:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
hyperpowder posted...
You either can't read, or grasping to twist my words to fit your agenda.


Your argument is yes to whites no to Syrians, I don't have to twist anything. Think before you post next time, most people aren't aware of their bias.


My argument is yes to South African refugees(regardless of race) and no to Syrian refugees.

Jesus stop twisting my words to fit your agenda. You sound like you work for Fox news
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darkphoenix181
08/02/18 5:13:03 PM
#55:


HiddenRoar posted...
2019: South Africa experiences unprecedented food shortage, mass starvation, hyperinflation; begs for immediate international aid.


That is what these farmers are saying will happen.
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glitteringfairy
08/02/18 5:14:19 PM
#56:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Thats fucked up.

People ITT are defending it though
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Ving_Rhames
08/02/18 5:14:31 PM
#57:


Thats fucked up.
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gunplagirl
08/02/18 5:14:35 PM
#58:


They're reclaiming stolen land. It's not "seizing" as that would entail a certain degree of violence more in line with the colonialist platforms through which the land was procured by white invaders to begin with.
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Broseph_Stalin
08/02/18 5:15:50 PM
#59:


hyperpowder posted...
My argument is yes to South African refugees(regardless of race) and no to Syrian refugees.


Why would we take anyone from South Africa? They're literally taking land from people, doesn't sound very civilized to me.
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Nomadic View
08/02/18 5:17:37 PM
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Because they are being persecuted by the government on the basis of race which are qualifying factors for asylum.
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darkphoenix181
08/02/18 5:18:33 PM
#61:


gunplagirl posted...
They're reclaiming stolen land. It's not "seizing" as that would entail a certain degree of violence more in line with the colonialist platforms through which the land was procured by white invaders to begin with.


Taking it without compensation from the people who likely didn't steal it either as they would have purchsed it from the British Empire; well, their grandparents that is, not them.
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Broseph_Stalin
08/02/18 5:18:45 PM
#62:


Nomadic View posted...
Because they are being persecuted by the government on the basis of race which is a qualifying factor for asylum.


Syrians also qualify.
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LethalAffinity
08/02/18 5:19:23 PM
#63:


So this is becoming reverse-Apartheid at this point.

Mandela is rolling in his grave.
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Zikten
08/02/18 5:19:42 PM
#64:


so in the fight between me and Zeak, I win apparently since he ran away
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Firewerx
08/02/18 5:19:46 PM
#65:


nemu posted...
Firewerx posted...
Milkman5 posted...
imagine being white and not leaving an imaginary country that wants to kill all white people


FTFY

They want to take all the white owned farmlands and will get violent over it if they resist. They're not yet in a state of "kill every white person", but they're not that far off at that rate.


So after nearly a quarter of a century of foot-dragging by the ANC government over the land issue, whites still own almost all farmland in South Africa? Yet there've been klaxons screaming about an "imminent white genocide" ever since 1994... However you might view the prospect of heavy-handed evictions, it's still pretty fucking far off "kill every white person", and idiots who claim it shows the government's on a knife-edge of mass genocide are actually doing white landowners no favours, because principled opposition to the stupidity, cynicism and injustice of the farm seizures policy gets buried beneath all the bullshit hyperbole. For Chrissake, even anti-apartheid activists who attacked the (far bigger) forced removals of black South Africans under the National Party regime never made the stupid claim that it was the first step on the road to "killing all black people".
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mario2000
08/02/18 5:20:03 PM
#66:


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Broseph_Stalin
08/02/18 5:20:33 PM
#67:


darkphoenix181 posted...
as they would have purchsed it from the British Empire


That's not what happened fyi
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darkphoenix181
08/02/18 5:21:16 PM
#68:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
as they would have purchsed it from the British Empire


That's not what happened fyi


Ok explain how they got it then.
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Broseph_Stalin
08/02/18 5:22:04 PM
#69:


darkphoenix181 posted...
Ok explain how they got it then.


Conquest. The area wasn't even under British control at the time.
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Wetterdew
08/02/18 5:22:38 PM
#71:


I'm a white person who moved to America from South Africa. My mom grew up on a farm there. We came to America when I was five; my uncle and cousins still live there, but I'm glad I'm in Texas now
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Zikten
08/02/18 5:23:07 PM
#72:


Conflict posted...
Zikten posted...
so in the fight between me and Zeak, I win apparently since he ran away


Some people actually have more to their lives than gamefaqs buddy

well that's his loss.
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darkphoenix181
08/02/18 5:23:09 PM
#73:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
Ok explain how they got it then.


Conquest. The area wasn't even under British control at the time.


Who conquered it? Random british farmers just took over South Africa without aid of the empire?
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gunplagirl
08/02/18 5:24:04 PM
#74:


darkphoenix181 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
They're reclaiming stolen land. It's not "seizing" as that would entail a certain degree of violence more in line with the colonialist platforms through which the land was procured by white invaders to begin with.


Taking it without compensation from the people who likely didn't steal it either as they would have purchsed it from the British Empire; well, their grandparents that is, not them.


So if somebody stole your car, then sold it, the person who bought it should be allowed to keep it?

Ultimately somebody stole the land from the native citizens and enforced the premise of buying land and ownership of it. Just because it was legal by the invader's policies doesn't make it acceptable.
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Questionmarktarius
08/02/18 5:24:35 PM
#75:


darkphoenix181 posted...
HiddenRoar posted...
2019: South Africa experiences unprecedented food shortage, mass starvation, hyperinflation; begs for immediate international aid.


That is what these farmers are saying will happen.

That's what historically always happens, as seen with Venezuela, Zimbabwe, China, Russia, Haiti, etc., etc..
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Broseph_Stalin
08/02/18 5:26:25 PM
#76:


darkphoenix181 posted...
Who conquested it? Random british farmers just took over South Africa without aid of the empire?


Holy shit dude you really need to read up on South African history.

First of all, they weren't British. They were Dutch settlers who were very hostile to British colonial rule. They migrated out of the Cape Colony and forcefully took the land from African tribes.
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darkphoenix181
08/02/18 5:33:40 PM
#77:


gunplagirl posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
They're reclaiming stolen land. It's not "seizing" as that would entail a certain degree of violence more in line with the colonialist platforms through which the land was procured by white invaders to begin with.


Taking it without compensation from the people who likely didn't steal it either as they would have purchsed it from the British Empire; well, their grandparents that is, not them.


So if somebody stole your car, then sold it, the person who bought it should be allowed to keep it?

Ultimately somebody stole the land from the native citizens and enforced the premise of buying land and ownership of it. Just because it was legal by the invader's policies doesn't make it acceptable.


Do you own a house or a car gunplgirl?
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Zeeak4444
08/02/18 6:13:14 PM
#78:


@Zikten posted...
so in the fight between me and Zeak, I win apparently since he ran away


You spend way too much time on the internet dude. I post on breaks at my job, I'm not here 24/7 like you dude.

If you're really that interested it was the way you said it I was commenting on, not the fact that you have a subjective opinion on the subject.

Edit:

Zikten posted...
Conflict posted...
Zikten posted...
so in the fight between me and Zeak, I win apparently since he ran away


Some people actually have more to their lives than gamefaqs buddy

well that's his loss.


Brrrroooooo....
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ThyCorndog
08/02/18 6:19:14 PM
#79:


gunplagirl posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
They're reclaiming stolen land. It's not "seizing" as that would entail a certain degree of violence more in line with the colonialist platforms through which the land was procured by white invaders to begin with.


Taking it without compensation from the people who likely didn't steal it either as they would have purchsed it from the British Empire; well, their grandparents that is, not them.


So if somebody stole your car, then sold it, the person who bought it should be allowed to keep it?

Ultimately somebody stole the land from the native citizens and enforced the premise of buying land and ownership of it. Just because it was legal by the invader's policies doesn't make it acceptable.

eh it comes down to race and politics because the zulus and other bantu groups (which make up the majority of south africa) aren't natives to the region either. the natives are khoi-san peoples and they're somewhat of an oppressed minority as well
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FLUFFYGERM
08/02/18 6:20:30 PM
#80:


When the South African state starts killing white people, the same usual suspects will be trying hard to find some moral justification for why that is okay.

This is absolutely abhorrent. Seizing land from people who owned it for a long time just because they're white is evil. Even if a long time ago they had ancestors who were warlords or forcibly conquered land, that was how war and conquest were back then. Everyone stole land, including the tribes that "owned" it before the colonizers moved in. None of that tribe is even around anymore AFAIK, and a shit ton of people who are gonna lose their land worked and paid for it. Their hard work went into purchasing it from someone else, and now their labor is going to be stolen from them.

Absolutely awful. I'd salt my land and raze it all down if this happened to me. Zimbabwe 2.0
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FLUFFYGERM
08/02/18 6:21:05 PM
#81:


ThyCorndog posted...
gunplagirl posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
They're reclaiming stolen land. It's not "seizing" as that would entail a certain degree of violence more in line with the colonialist platforms through which the land was procured by white invaders to begin with.


Taking it without compensation from the people who likely didn't steal it either as they would have purchsed it from the British Empire; well, their grandparents that is, not them.


So if somebody stole your car, then sold it, the person who bought it should be allowed to keep it?

Ultimately somebody stole the land from the native citizens and enforced the premise of buying land and ownership of it. Just because it was legal by the invader's policies doesn't make it acceptable.

eh it comes down to race and politics because the zulus and other bantu groups (which make up the majority of south africa) aren't natives to the region either. the natives are khoi-san peoples and they're somewhat of an oppressed minority as well


do they even exist anymore? i thought that tribe vanished some decades ago
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Rimmer_Dall
08/02/18 6:25:58 PM
#82:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
. Everyone stole land, including the tribes that "owned" it before the colonizers moved in. None of that tribe is even around anymore AFAIK, and a shit ton of people who are gonna lose their land worked and paid for it.

Yeah, this "their land was stolen from them by the Boers" argument is kinda funny, considering the Bantu people got said land to begin with by invading and eradicating the local Khoisan, Khoikhoi and San people.
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ThyCorndog
08/02/18 6:26:13 PM
#83:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
gunplagirl posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
They're reclaiming stolen land. It's not "seizing" as that would entail a certain degree of violence more in line with the colonialist platforms through which the land was procured by white invaders to begin with.


Taking it without compensation from the people who likely didn't steal it either as they would have purchsed it from the British Empire; well, their grandparents that is, not them.


So if somebody stole your car, then sold it, the person who bought it should be allowed to keep it?

Ultimately somebody stole the land from the native citizens and enforced the premise of buying land and ownership of it. Just because it was legal by the invader's policies doesn't make it acceptable.

eh it comes down to race and politics because the zulus and other bantu groups (which make up the majority of south africa) aren't natives to the region either. the natives are khoi-san peoples and they're somewhat of an oppressed minority as well


do they even exist anymore? i thought that tribe vanished some decades ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khoisan
not many of them left and they basically mostly live spread out throughout the desert in the southern africa
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KamenRiderBlade
08/02/18 6:27:30 PM
#84:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
Yeah, this "their land was stolen from them by the Boers" argument is kinda funny, considering the Bantu people got said land to begin with by invading and eradicating the local Khoisan, Khoikhoi and San people.
Winner take all, that's reality.

If you want to take it back, use force.

Otherwise the Bantu should've been legally recognized as the owners once they won their invasion.

What the Bantu does with the land after wards is their business.
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darkjedilink
08/02/18 6:29:58 PM
#85:


Antifar posted...
How did they get the land?

They bought it from the tribes that posessed it centuries ago.
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Alphamon
08/02/18 6:30:37 PM
#86:


if south africans whites are so civilized, why did they support apartheid?

yes they should be allowed asylum. but the idea that we should let these people in and not syrians is a joke.
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Broseph_Stalin
08/02/18 6:31:00 PM
#87:


darkjedilink posted...
They bought it from the tribes that posessed it centuries ago.


Are you an admiral alt? You have the same weird fixation on being wrong.
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Bishop9800
08/02/18 6:33:50 PM
#88:


LethalAffinity posted...
So this is becoming reverse-Apartheid at this point.

Mandela is rolling in his grave.


This
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darkjedilink
08/02/18 6:42:28 PM
#89:


Alphamon posted...
if south africans whites are so civilized, why did they support apartheid?

yes they should be allowed asylum. but the idea that we should let these people in and not syrians is a joke.

Letting in successful farmers is okay, only if we let in possible terrorists?
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Alphamon
08/02/18 6:44:30 PM
#90:


darkjedilink posted...
Alphamon posted...
if south africans whites are so civilized, why did they support apartheid?

yes they should be allowed asylum. but the idea that we should let these people in and not syrians is a joke.

Letting in successful farmers is okay, only if we let in possible terrorists?

oh my god you are so gross its ridiculous
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darkphoenix181
08/02/18 6:46:58 PM
#91:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
. Everyone stole land, including the tribes that "owned" it before the colonizers moved in. None of that tribe is even around anymore AFAIK, and a shit ton of people who are gonna lose their land worked and paid for it.

Yeah, this "their land was stolen from them by the Boers" argument is kinda funny, considering the Bantu people got said land to begin with by invading and eradicating the local Khoisan, Khoikhoi and San people.


@gunplagirl

what do you make of this?
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ThyCorndog
08/02/18 7:08:29 PM
#92:


I mean in the end, both the bantus and boers are invaders, but the boers invaded from more far away or cause the bantus are native to west africa which isn't south africa but it's still africa which means... something idk
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Capn Circus
08/02/18 7:21:28 PM
#93:


White people should move out of South Africa and let them have at it.

Anyway, it's important to look at examples like these and keep things in perspective. This can and will happen in places like the U.S. one day.
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Bishop9800
08/02/18 7:23:01 PM
#94:


Capn Circus posted...
Anyway, it's important to look at examples like these and keep things in perspective. This can and will happen in places like the U.S. one day.


It already had.
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FLUFFYGERM
08/02/18 7:25:39 PM
#95:


ThyCorndog posted...
I mean in the end, both the bantus and boers are invaders, but the boers invaded from more far away or cause the bantus are native to west africa which isn't south africa but it's still africa which means... something idk


sounds like youre just trying to reach real hard to keep that anti white sentiment goin tbqh
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-Bungle-
08/02/18 7:27:08 PM
#96:


DarkTransient posted...
That's nothing, in the US, the government lets people say mean things about minorities.

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Alphamon
08/02/18 7:32:25 PM
#97:


Capn Circus posted...
Anyway, it's important to look at examples like these and keep things in perspective. This can and will happen in places like the U.S. one day.

the amount of paranoia needed to be a Republican in 2018
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ThyCorndog
08/02/18 7:48:09 PM
#98:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
I mean in the end, both the bantus and boers are invaders, but the boers invaded from more far away or cause the bantus are native to west africa which isn't south africa but it's still africa which means... something idk


sounds like youre just trying to reach real hard to keep that anti white sentiment goin tbqh

I was just trying to reach the dead end in the logic but whatever
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Fluttershy462
08/02/18 7:50:55 PM
#99:


Hope the innocent can get out
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iPhone_7
08/02/18 7:57:06 PM
#100:


Evacuate the white people out of that country. Leave it to its doom
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