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Full Throttle 07/31/18 12:49:54 AM #1: |
Do you think the cop who shot ciara should share some responsibility in this? - Results (7 votes)
Yes
71.43% (5 votes)
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No
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It happened in January 11, 2016 when Donald was being evicted from his home and he pointed a loaded AR-15 riftle at Constable Clark Steele who tried to kick the door open but saw Donald was holding a g un and immediately fired a single shot that went through ihs arm and killed his 12 y/o daughter Ciara Meyer who was standing behind him!! The bullet struck her and killed her instantly A Jury deliberated for 2 and a half hours before finding him guilty of involuntary manslaughter, aggravated assault and other counts DA Andrew Bender told jurors that Donald didn't pull the trigger but was responsible and said that parents are supposed to protect their children and not put them in harm's way. The confrontation was taken by property manager Ashley Hill who was 20 ft away and testified in court that the child stepped up behind the father. She heard Ciara saying "Dad, stop. Dad stop" She said Donald had ANTI-GOVERNMENT views and thought everyone was against him She said Meyer feared his home was being "invaded" and picked up a gun he was cleaning to protec this home and blamed the cop for his daughter's death. Family members are "relieved" on the outcome as Jason Gehman, Ciara's uncle said they still talk about Ciara to this day. Do you think the Cop should share some of the responsibility on this? Donald - Guilty Nutcase http://tinyurl.com/yd9v257g https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/29/23/4EAE475000000578-6004665-image-m-3_1532902452941.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/29/23/4EAE477800000578-6004665-image-a-16_1532902706276.jpg Ciara - Deceased https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/29/23/4EAE480E00000578-6004665-image-m-14_1532902565905.jpg http://tinyurl.com/y9m5onvy --- call me mrduckbear, sweater monkeys. A GFAQS User Steps On A Bug, I'll Stop Posting for 24 HOURS. THIS ACCOUNT ONLY!! I'm an Asian Liberal. RESIST The Alt-Right ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJKirby 07/31/18 12:51:17 AM #2: |
he looks like he aged fifty years
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Nidhoggr 07/31/18 12:52:10 AM #3: |
Your gimmick is lame.
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Sabram 07/31/18 12:58:22 AM #4: |
In instances like this my belief is that the person who caused the gun to be fired, not necessarily the one pulling the trigger is to blame. So yes the dad is at fault.
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Aristoph 07/31/18 1:01:09 AM #5: |
Why should the cop share any responsibility? If dad doesn't pull a gun on the cop, the cop doesn't shoot at him (and hit him, btw, it wasn't even a stray bullet, he actually hit his target) and the daughter doesn't die.
Dad fucked up and his daughter paid for it. It's entirely his fault. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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St0rmFury 07/31/18 1:06:41 AM #6: |
Dad's fault.
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Knowledge_King 07/31/18 1:52:15 PM #7: |
Cop's fault.
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LightHawKnight 07/31/18 1:53:23 PM #8: |
Sabram posted...
In instances like this my belief is that the person who caused the gun to be fired, not necessarily the one pulling the trigger is to blame. So yes the dad is at fault. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_IceSikle 07/31/18 1:55:45 PM #9: |
Aristoph posted...
Why should the cop share any responsibility? If dad doesn't pull a gun on the cop, the cop doesn't shoot at him (and hit him, btw, it wasn't even a stray bullet, he actually hit his target) and the daughter doesn't die. --- I don't think I can do that, sorry. That's weird. I can't. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 07/31/18 1:56:51 PM #10: |
they both have some fault. it's fine to talk about how if the man should be punished and how much. but either way, the cop has blame too. and I don't like that he just automatically gets away with it
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Aristoph 07/31/18 3:16:21 PM #11: |
Zikten posted...
but either way, the cop has blame too. and I don't like that he just automatically gets away with it The dude pointed a fucking gun at him. Was he supposed to just stand there and get shot? Fuck outta here with that shit. Cop has no blame whatsoever in this situation. He defended himself and attempted to incapacitate a violent individual exactly as he should have. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mrduckbear 07/31/18 9:17:36 PM #12: |
looks like most say YES
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SauI_Goodman 07/31/18 9:19:39 PM #13: |
His house wasn't being invaded, he was being evicted. His fault.
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Aristoph 07/31/18 10:11:03 PM #14: |
mrduckbear posted...
looks like most say YES Which is simultaneously really fucked up and not at all surprising here. :-/ --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catboy0_0 07/31/18 10:12:34 PM #15: |
no, wtf who would actually think this. it's entirely the father's fault
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iPhone_7 07/31/18 10:13:30 PM #16: |
DA Andrew Bender told jurors that Donald didn't pull the trigger but was responsible and said that parents are supposed to protect their children and not put them in harm's way. He was protecting her from strange armed men breaking into their home. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kisai 07/31/18 10:14:33 PM #17: |
Once again, you're using real peoples' deaths for your stupid shitposting.
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DarkChozoGhost 07/31/18 10:16:22 PM #18: |
One of the rare occasions where the cop shouldn't be blamed
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Aristoph 07/31/18 10:18:53 PM #20: |
GregShmedley posted...
Edit: misread you. EDIT: lol, no worries. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MakoReizei 07/31/18 10:21:57 PM #21: |
Dad is 100% at fault. This goes for swatters too if the victim ends up getting shot.
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Aristoph 07/31/18 10:21:59 PM #22: |
iPhone_7 posted...
He was being evicted. He knew who the fuck they were. They weren't "strange armed men", they were the police. FFS, his 12 year old daughter knew who it was, hence why she told him to stop. If she could figure it out, why the hell couldn't he? Stop defending the psychopath. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 07/31/18 10:27:07 PM #23: |
If someone dies, even as a result of law enforcements actions, while engaged in felonious activity then you can be charged with the innocents death.
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Zikten 07/31/18 10:28:18 PM #24: |
weird
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DarkTransient 07/31/18 10:29:01 PM #25: |
Father is charged with MURDER 60 y/o Donald Meyer Jr from Pennsylvania is charged with manslaughter for killing his 12 y/o daughter... (Though my only objection to charging him with murder would be "that charge won't stick, whereas manslaughter might".) --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 07/31/18 10:29:28 PM #26: |
Aristoph posted...
FFS, his 12 year old daughter knew who it was, hence why she told him to stop. If she could figure it out, why the hell couldn't he? so her last words were telling her dad to calm down and then she got shot? sad I guess that answers why she was standing right behind him but if she was shouting at her dad, then the cop should have known she was there and been more careful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aristoph 07/31/18 10:32:54 PM #27: |
Zikten posted...
then the cop should have known she was there and been more careful HE HAD A FUCKING GUN POINTED AT HIM. Shut the fuck up. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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muchdran 07/31/18 10:36:14 PM #28: |
Well you used caps and an exclamation point. It must be true.
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Syntheticon 07/31/18 10:39:01 PM #29: |
St0rmFury posted...
Dad's fault. Knowledge_King posted... Cop's fault. So which one was the "good guy with a gun" in this scenario? --- Mod me? You don't even know me! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aristoph 07/31/18 10:39:59 PM #30: |
muchdran posted...
Well you used caps and an exclamation point. It must be true. That's a damn lie. I haven't used a single exclamation point. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 07/31/18 11:33:49 PM #31: |
Aristoph posted...
Zikten posted...then the cop should have known she was there and been more careful you need to calm down, dude. you've been raising your blood pressure about me all evening ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paragon21XX 07/31/18 11:44:53 PM #32: |
Any father that puts his own misguided self-interests above the well-being of his family is 100% at fault for any harm that comes to them.
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Aristoph 07/31/18 11:54:04 PM #33: |
Zikten posted...
You do realize it doesn't take any more effort to capitalize on a computer keyboard than it does for lowercase, right? I just want to check, because with all the shitposting you've been doing tonight, I'm not convinced you can follow that logic. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 07/31/18 11:56:26 PM #34: |
Aristoph posted...
You do realize it doesn't take any more effort to capitalize on a computer keyboard than it does for lowercase, right? when you say "shut the fuck up" it implies getting emotional about the argument ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catboy0_0 08/01/18 12:00:02 AM #35: |
anyone know why he was being evicted?
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catboy0_0 08/01/18 12:00:19 AM #36: |
Zikten posted...
Aristoph posted...You do realize it doesn't take any more effort to capitalize on a computer keyboard than it does for lowercase, right? lol no it doesn't --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Knowledge_King 08/01/18 9:54:08 AM #37: |
Syntheticon posted...
St0rmFury posted...Dad's fault. Probably neither. Cop's certainly not a good guy and killed a child, and I don't have enough info on the other guy. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 4 Stars and IndieReader Approved:https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N-ebook/dp/B076R7DCHN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Syntheticon 08/01/18 8:03:38 PM #38: |
Knowledge_King posted...
Syntheticon posted...You seem very certain that the cop was at least "not a good guy"-what if the child was nowhere near the incident (as she should have been) and only the father was shot? How do you not know anything about the dad?So which one was the "good guy with a gun" in this scenario?Probably neither. Cop's certainly not a good guy and killed a child, and I don't have enough info on the other guy. -He was being evicted from his home (while sad, he knew what was coming) -He pointed a loaded AR-15 rifle at the cops -The child was directly behind the dad and was heard saying "Dad, stop. Dad stop" -The dad was known to have had paranoid tendencies and feared his home was being "invaded" If anything, I'm impressed that the cop only fired a single round-can you imagine how much restraint it would have taken to fire only 1 shot (and through his arm instead of centre mass) when you've got an assault rifle pointed at you? I'd like to see you remain as calm under similar circumstances. Putting aside the issue of having an assault rifle around the house, the whole thing was unfortunate but foreseeable given the situation that someone innocent was going to get hurt. --- Mod me? You don't even know me! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mrduckbear 08/03/18 8:49:40 PM #39: |
looks like people said NO this time..
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Doe 08/03/18 8:52:54 PM #40: |
At best it's nobody's fault, at worst it is cop's fault.
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gmanthebest 08/03/18 9:07:20 PM #41: |
Doe posted...
It's the dad's fault Ftfy --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 08/03/18 9:08:20 PM #42: |
I don't understand why someone has to go to fucking prison for what is clearly an accident
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nemu 08/03/18 9:08:25 PM #43: |
It's crazy how some people hold cops to impossible standards.
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Doe 08/03/18 9:09:58 PM #44: |
How exactly do those extra years in prison benefit the rehabilitation of this man when he never actually killed the daughter in the first place
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gmanthebest 08/03/18 9:45:52 PM #45: |
Doe posted...
I don't understand why someone has to go to fucking prison for what is clearly an accident Because he caused the accident to happen. Funny that you're saying that we're the stupid ones though. If I'm "20 IQ", I'd hate to know what you are. 10? 5? Hell, maybe a 0? --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aristoph 08/03/18 9:53:13 PM #46: |
Doe posted...
I don't understand why someone has to go to fucking prison for what is clearly an accident If you point a loaded rifle at a cop, you should go to fucking prison. Seriously, why is this even a point of debate? --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 08/03/18 9:55:07 PM #47: |
Aristoph posted...
Doe posted...I don't understand why someone has to go to fucking prison for what is clearly an accident -Don't murder someone -You are charged as a murderer If you want to put him in prison fucking do it right. The entire fucking prison system is a dumpster fire --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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---Devin--- 08/03/18 9:59:35 PM #48: |
Aristoph posted...
If you point a loaded rifle at a cop, you should go to fucking prison. If you point a loaded rifle at ANYONE you should go to prison. No idea why you specified cop as if they have some special privilege. They are no more different than you or an I. But to the topic, the dad is definitely at fault. --- I'm tryna give Halle Berry a baby and no one can stop me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aristoph 08/04/18 2:44:29 AM #49: |
Doe posted...
-Don't murder someone He wasn't charged for murder. He was charged for involuntary manslaughter. And he deserves to go to prison for it. At least attempt to know what you're talking about before you say stupid shit. ---Devin--- posted... If you point a loaded rifle at ANYONE you should go to prison. No idea why you specified cop as if they have some special privilege. They are no more different than you or an I. I specified cop because that's what we're talking about. This guy pointed a loaded rifle at a cop. If you do that, you deserve prison time. And if I had just said "anybody" you know some stupid jackass was gonna come in and say "but...but...but what about burglars!? What if he was being attacked??!?" Which would have been equally irrelevant, tbh, considering his daughter knew who it was so there's no excuse for him not to have known and the "I thought it was a robber" defense is thrown out the window. --- PSN ID: Aristoph http://www.youtube.com/user/SotCRules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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