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thecoolgu 07/15/18 1:24:24 PM #51:	I mean if you believe that random chance created a world and universe as complex and harmonic as this one, and that the DNA alterations in many complex animals just so happened to be more progessions than regressions, then yes, you may as well believe in a religion. --- This signature only exists because my post would be eccentric without it. <cite>thecoolgu posted [p:905119387] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>I mean if you believe that random chance created a world and universe as complex and harmonic as this one, and that the DNA alterations in many complex animals just so happened to be more progessions than regressions, then yes, you may as well believe in a religion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 07/15/18 1:50:22 PM #52:	thecoolgu posted... I mean if you believe that random chance created a world and universe as complex and harmonic as this one, and that the DNA alterations in many complex animals just so happened to be more progessions than regressions, then yes, you may as well believe in a religion. There is no credible evidence for an intelligent design claim. When someone, preferably God itself, produces that evidence so we can see if it proves religious claims, I'll be perfectly willing to stop considering myself an atheist. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:905120777] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>thecoolgu posted...</cite> <quote>I mean if you believe that random chance created a world and universe as complex and harmonic as this one, and that the DNA alterations in many complex animals just so happened to be more progessions than regressions, then yes, you may as well believe in a religion.</quote> There is no credible evidence for an intelligent design claim. When someone, preferably God itself, produces that evidence so we can see if it proves religious claims, I'll be perfectly willing to stop considering myself an atheist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 07/15/18 4:29:34 PM #53:	WheezinEd posted... nicklebro posted... WheezinEd posted... Prestoff posted... WheezinEd posted... It requires as much faith as any other religion, so yes. Agnosticism is the only sensible path. Your post makes no sense at all. Atheism is the answer to one question, Gnosticism is about the knowledge so you can be an agnostic atheist. A person who believes god doesn't exist = atheist A person who neither believes in god or in god's nonexistence = agnostic Wrong. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/about-atheism/ You can be agnostic and atheist. Just like you can be agnostic and theist as well. Nope. Agnostic is neither believing one way or another. Wrong, agnostic is not knowing one way or another, it says absolutely nothing about belief --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:905128384] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>WheezinEd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WheezinEd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WheezinEd posted...</cite> <quote>It requires as much faith as any other religion, so yes. Agnosticism is the only sensible path.</quote> Your post makes no sense at all. Atheism is the answer to one question, Gnosticism is about the knowledge so you can be an agnostic atheist.</quote> A person who believes god doesn't exist = atheist A person who neither believes in god or in god's nonexistence = agnostic</quote> Wrong. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/about-atheism/ You can be agnostic and atheist. Just like you can be agnostic and theist as well.</quote> Nope. Agnostic is neither believing one way or another.</quote> Wrong, agnostic is not knowing one way or another, it says absolutely nothing about belief</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WheezinEd 07/16/18 9:09:54 AM #54:	nicklebro posted... WheezinEd posted... nicklebro posted... WheezinEd posted... Prestoff posted... WheezinEd posted... It requires as much faith as any other religion, so yes. Agnosticism is the only sensible path. Your post makes no sense at all. Atheism is the answer to one question, Gnosticism is about the knowledge so you can be an agnostic atheist. A person who believes god doesn't exist = atheist A person who neither believes in god or in god's nonexistence = agnostic Wrong. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/about-atheism/ You can be agnostic and atheist. Just like you can be agnostic and theist as well. Nope. Agnostic is neither believing one way or another. Wrong, agnostic is not knowing one way or another, it says absolutely nothing about belief Wrong. <cite>WheezinEd posted [p:905165700] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WheezinEd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WheezinEd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WheezinEd posted...</cite> <quote>It requires as much faith as any other religion, so yes. Agnosticism is the only sensible path.</quote> Your post makes no sense at all. Atheism is the answer to one question, Gnosticism is about the knowledge so you can be an agnostic atheist.</quote> A person who believes god doesn't exist = atheist A person who neither believes in god or in god's nonexistence = agnostic</quote> Wrong. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/about-atheism/ You can be agnostic and atheist. Just like you can be agnostic and theist as well.</quote> Nope. Agnostic is neither believing one way or another.</quote> Wrong, agnostic is not knowing one way or another, it says absolutely nothing about belief</quote> Wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 07/16/18 9:33:18 AM #56:	nicklebro posted... WheezinEd posted... Prestoff posted... WheezinEd posted... It requires as much faith as any other religion, so yes. Agnosticism is the only sensible path. Your post makes no sense at all. Atheism is the answer to one question, Gnosticism is about the knowledge so you can be an agnostic atheist. A person who believes god doesn't exist = atheist A person who neither believes in god or in god's nonexistence = agnostic Wrong. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/about-atheism/ You can be agnostic and atheist. Just like you can be agnostic and theist as well. I hate that every conversation about atheism tends to devolve around this particular point at some part in the discussion. This point has been made so many times in debate after debate, discussion after discussion. At this point it's annoying how many people don't seem to be able to grasp it. --- https://imgur.com/PHWbltB <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:905166434] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WheezinEd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WheezinEd posted...</cite> <quote>It requires as much faith as any other religion, so yes. Agnosticism is the only sensible path.</quote> Your post makes no sense at all. Atheism is the answer to one question, Gnosticism is about the knowledge so you can be an agnostic atheist.</quote> A person who believes god doesn't exist = atheist A person who neither believes in god or in god's nonexistence = agnostic</quote> Wrong. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/about-atheism/ You can be agnostic and atheist. Just like you can be agnostic and theist as well.</quote> I hate that every conversation about atheism tends to devolve around this particular point at some part in the discussion. This point has been made so many times in debate after debate, discussion after discussion. At this point it's annoying how many people don't seem to be able to grasp it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 07/16/18 12:25:12 PM #57:	WheezinEd posted... Wrong. You can think whatever you want, but in reality words have definitions so you can't just make up nonsense and pass it off as fact. Do some research so you don't look so stupid next time. Twin3Turbo posted... I hate that every conversation about atheism tends to devolve around this particular point at some part in the discussion. This point has been made so many times in debate after debate, discussion after discussion. At this point it's annoying how many people don't seem to be able to grasp it. I agree 100%, I have no idea how people are still ignorant about this simple fact. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:905173938] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>WheezinEd posted...</cite> <quote> Wrong.</quote> You can think whatever you want, but in reality words have definitions so you can't just make up nonsense and pass it off as fact. Do some research so you don't look so stupid next time. <cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote> I hate that every conversation about atheism tends to devolve around this particular point at some part in the discussion. This point has been made so many times in debate after debate, discussion after discussion. At this point it's annoying how many people don't seem to be able to grasp it.</quote> I agree 100%, I have no idea how people are still ignorant about this simple fact.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WheezinEd 07/16/18 12:31:53 PM #58:	nicklebro posted... You can think whatever you want, but in reality words have definitions so you can't just make up nonsense and pass it off as fact. Do some research so you don't look so stupid next time. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist >one who does not believe in god https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agnostic >one who does not believe or disbelieve in god <cite>WheezinEd posted [p:905174248] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote> You can think whatever you want, but in reality words have definitions so you can't just make up nonsense and pass it off as fact. Do some research so you don't look so stupid next time.</quote> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist >one who does not believe in god https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agnostic >one who does not believe or disbelieve in god</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 07/16/18 1:04:18 PM #60:	Asherlee10 posted... It seems that both camps hold a belief based on no evidence except for their feelings. It seems like a silly position. If something is unknowable, then why have a belief about it? Just leave it in the 'unknowable' bucket. I don't think this is how belief works, mainly. You don't make a rational calculation about whether or not you should believe in something, you just either do believe or you don't believe. If you're hedging about whether or not you believe, you don't believe, it has nothing to do with whether or not you think that is a logically superior stance to belief --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:905175852] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>It seems that both camps hold a belief based on no evidence except for their feelings. It seems like a silly position. If something is unknowable, then why have a belief about it? Just leave it in the 'unknowable' bucket.</quote> I don't think this is how belief works, mainly. You don't make a rational calculation about whether or not you should believe in something, you just either do believe or you don't believe. If you're hedging about whether or not you believe, you don't believe, it has nothing to do with whether or not you think that is a logically superior stance to belief</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 07/16/18 1:28:25 PM #62:	Does it really matter? For example, I say I'm an atheist because I don't accept the claim that a god exists. And my reason would make some people say I'm actually an agnostic. But what I'm called doesn't change my position. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:905177074] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>Does it really matter? For example, I say I'm an atheist because I don't accept the claim that a god exists. And my reason would make some people say I'm actually an agnostic. But what I'm called doesn't change my position.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 07/16/18 1:34:43 PM #63:	I don't believe in god but I don't actually know if god exists, and would believe in a god or gods if proof was provided. but since there isn't any proof then I can't really bring myself to believe in god so what does that make me other than an agnostic atheist? --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:905177483] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>I don't believe in god but I don't actually know if god exists, and would believe in a god or gods if proof was provided. but since there isn't any proof then I can't really bring myself to believe in god so what does that make me other than an agnostic atheist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 07/16/18 6:26:39 PM #64:	WheezinEd posted... nicklebro posted... You can think whatever you want, but in reality words have definitions so you can't just make up nonsense and pass it off as fact. Do some research so you don't look so stupid next time. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist >one who does not believe in god https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agnostic >one who does not believe or disbelieve in god Exactly, agnosticism has nothing to do with belief. It has to do with knowledge. What don't you get? --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:905193556] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>WheezinEd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote> You can think whatever you want, but in reality words have definitions so you can't just make up nonsense and pass it off as fact. Do some research so you don't look so stupid next time.</quote> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist >one who does not believe in god https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agnostic >one who does not believe or disbelieve in god</quote> Exactly, agnosticism has nothing to do with belief. It has to do with knowledge. What don't you get?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 07/16/18 6:33:26 PM #65:	Asherlee10 posted... It seems that both camps hold a belief based on no evidence except for their feelings. It seems like a silly position. If something is unknowable, then why have a belief about it? Just leave it in the 'unknowable' bucket. That's not how anything works. You don't know the big bang happened, but I assume you believe it. There's tons of stuff you just can't know but believe anyways because there's sufficient evidence to convince you. Plus, you don't actually choose what you believe, it's not actually up to you. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:905193934] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote> It seems that both camps hold a belief based on no evidence except for their feelings. It seems like a silly position. If something is unknowable, then why have a belief about it? Just leave it in the 'unknowable' bucket.</quote> That's not how anything works. You don't know the big bang happened, but I assume you believe it. There's tons of stuff you just can't know but believe anyways because there's sufficient evidence to convince you. Plus, you don't actually choose what you believe, it's not actually up to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 07/16/18 6:41:09 PM #66:	Yes and no. Yes, in that it can be one's religious view in the same way any other religion can. No in that it would be more accurately described as a lack of religion. --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:905194369] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>Yes and no. Yes, in that it can be one's religious view in the same way any other religion can. No in that it would be more accurately described as a lack of religion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WheezinEd 07/16/18 8:43:40 PM #67:	nicklebro posted... Exactly, agnosticism has nothing to do with belief. It has to do with knowledge. What don't you get? That's the opposite of what it says. <cite>WheezinEd posted [p:905201505] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>Exactly, agnosticism has nothing to do with belief. It has to do with knowledge. What don't you get?</quote> That's the opposite of what it says.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 07/16/18 8:59:07 PM #68:	https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism Read up, come back when you're less Ignorant. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:905202402] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism Read up, come back when you're less Ignorant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/16/18 9:02:42 PM #69:	atheism is obviously a religion --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905202591] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>atheism is obviously a religion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 07/16/18 9:04:01 PM #70:	FLUFFYGERM posted... atheism is obviously a religion How? --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:905202642] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>atheism is obviously a religion</quote> How?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/16/18 9:04:51 PM #71:	nicklebro posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... atheism is obviously a religion How? damn, i thought that would rustle your jimmies. it's not a religion --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905202699] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>atheism is obviously a religion</quote> How?</quote> damn, i thought that would rustle your jimmies. it's not a religion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 07/16/18 9:07:07 PM #72:	FLUFFYGERM posted... nicklebro posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... atheism is obviously a religion How? damn, i thought that would rustle your jimmies. it's not a religion How fucking dare you rustle my jimmies! --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:905202823] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>atheism is obviously a religion</quote> How?</quote> damn, i thought that would rustle your jimmies. it's not a religion</quote> How fucking dare you rustle my jimmies!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 07/16/18 9:07:33 PM #73:	No homo* --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:905202849] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>No homo*</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/16/18 9:07:47 PM #74:	It's only homo if the balls touch --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905202857] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>It's only homo if the balls touch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Ivory_Man 07/16/18 9:08:37 PM #75:	If the response to "What Religion are you?" Can be answered by "I'm an Atheist" It counts. It's like arguing being a centrist isn't a real political thing. I'm agnostic too, so it's not like I'm religious only entered a religious institution 7 times and those were three different Religions too. --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan <cite>The_Ivory_Man posted [p:905202910] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>If the response to "What Religion are you?" Can be answered by "I'm an Atheist" It counts. It's like arguing being a centrist isn't a real political thing. I'm agnostic too, so it's not like I'm religious only entered a religious institution 7 times and those were three different Religions too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeuralLaxative 07/16/18 9:10:34 PM #76:	Gnostic theist Agnostic theist Agnostic atheist Gnostic atheist Pick one. Maybe two if you float in the middle --- https://imgur.com/rPJnWhf <cite>NeuralLaxative posted [p:905203018] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>Gnostic theist Agnostic theist Agnostic atheist Gnostic atheist Pick one. Maybe two if you float in the middle</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 07/16/18 9:11:47 PM #77:	The_Ivory_Man posted... If the response to "What Religion are you?" Can be answered by "I'm an Atheist" It counts. It's like arguing being a centrist isn't a real political thing. I'm agnostic too, so it's not like I'm religious only entered a religious institution 7 times and those were three different Religions too. no because religion and politics aren't comparable. politics is based on opinions and religions are belief systems. you can have an opinion on every different type of issue, which is how politics come into play. but if your position on religion is that you don't follow any, then that isn't a religion --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:905203081] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Ivory_Man posted...</cite> <quote>If the response to "What Religion are you?" Can be answered by "I'm an Atheist" It counts. It's like arguing being a centrist isn't a real political thing. I'm agnostic too, so it's not like I'm religious only entered a religious institution 7 times and those were three different Religions too.</quote> no because religion and politics aren't comparable. politics is based on opinions and religions are belief systems. you can have an opinion on every different type of issue, which is how politics come into play. but if your position on religion is that you don't follow any, then that isn't a religion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 07/16/18 9:13:35 PM #78:	The_Ivory_Man posted... If the response to "What Religion are you?" Can be answered by "I'm an Atheist" It counts. It's like arguing being a centrist isn't a real political thing. I'm agnostic too, so it's not like I'm religious only entered a religious institution 7 times and those were three different Religions too. Lol no. You say you're atheist to explain you don't have a religion. If someone asks you what kinda women you like, you can answer "I'm gay" and it means you don't like any women. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:905203188] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Ivory_Man posted...</cite> <quote>If the response to "What Religion are you?" Can be answered by "I'm an Atheist" It counts. It's like arguing being a centrist isn't a real political thing. I'm agnostic too, so it's not like I'm religious only entered a religious institution 7 times and those were three different Religions too.</quote> Lol no. You say you're atheist to explain you don't have a religion. If someone asks you what kinda women you like, you can answer "I'm gay" and it means you don't like any women.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 07/16/18 9:14:08 PM #79:	NeuralLaxative posted... Gnostic theist Agnostic theist Agnostic atheist Gnostic atheist Pick one. Maybe two if you float in the middle Finally, someone who knows what the fuck is up. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:905203218] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeuralLaxative posted...</cite> <quote>Gnostic theist Agnostic theist Agnostic atheist Gnostic atheist Pick one. Maybe two if you float in the middle</quote> Finally, someone who knows what the fuck is up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/16/18 9:18:24 PM #80:	Why does it matter what a worldview is classified as? Atheism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc, are worldviews. Each one stands or falls based on the evidence/reasoning behind it. It's not really monumental or consequential if someone classifies atheism as a religion or not, to be honest. So this topic is a waste of energy/time, isn't it? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905203508] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>Why does it matter what a worldview is classified as? Atheism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc, are worldviews. Each one stands or falls based on the evidence/reasoning behind it. It's not really monumental or consequential if someone classifies atheism as a religion or not, to be honest. So this topic is a waste of energy/time, isn't it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 07/16/18 9:20:34 PM #81:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Why does it matter what a worldview is classified as? Atheism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc, are worldviews. Each one stands or falls based on the evidence/reasoning behind it. It's not really monumental or consequential if someone classifies atheism as a religion or not, to be honest. So this topic is a waste of energy/time, isn't it? Words have meanings, and that's important, so no it isn't meaningless. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:905203645] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Why does it matter what a worldview is classified as? Atheism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc, are worldviews. Each one stands or falls based on the evidence/reasoning behind it. It's not really monumental or consequential if someone classifies atheism as a religion or not, to be honest. So this topic is a waste of energy/time, isn't it?</quote> Words have meanings, and that's important, so no it isn't meaningless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WheezinEd 07/16/18 10:20:29 PM #82:	nicklebro posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism Read up, come back when you're less Ignorant. Merriam Webster trumps Wikipedia as a source. Sorry kiddo. <cite>WheezinEd posted [p:905207100] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism Read up, come back when you're less Ignorant.</quote> Merriam Webster trumps Wikipedia as a source. Sorry kiddo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Ivory_Man 07/16/18 10:32:45 PM #83:	nicklebro posted... The_Ivory_Man posted... If the response to "What Religion are you?" Can be answered by "I'm an Atheist" It counts. It's like arguing being a centrist isn't a real political thing. I'm agnostic too, so it's not like I'm religious only entered a religious institution 7 times and those were three different Religions too. Lol no. You say you're atheist to explain you don't have a religion. If someone asks you what kinda women you like, you can answer "I'm gay" and it means you don't like any women. If somebody is asexual that's still a sexuality. --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan <cite>The_Ivory_Man posted [p:905207855] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Ivory_Man posted...</cite> <quote>If the response to "What Religion are you?" Can be answered by "I'm an Atheist" It counts. It's like arguing being a centrist isn't a real political thing. I'm agnostic too, so it's not like I'm religious only entered a religious institution 7 times and those were three different Religions too.</quote> Lol no. You say you're atheist to explain you don't have a religion. If someone asks you what kinda women you like, you can answer "I'm gay" and it means you don't like any women.</quote> If somebody is asexual that's still a sexuality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/16/18 10:33:16 PM #84:	nicklebro posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Why does it matter what a worldview is classified as? Atheism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc, are worldviews. Each one stands or falls based on the evidence/reasoning behind it. It's not really monumental or consequential if someone classifies atheism as a religion or not, to be honest. So this topic is a waste of energy/time, isn't it? Words have meanings, and that's important, so no it isn't meaningless. your response is literally "it's meaningful because it's meaningful" --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905207885] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Why does it matter what a worldview is classified as? Atheism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc, are worldviews. Each one stands or falls based on the evidence/reasoning behind it. It's not really monumental or consequential if someone classifies atheism as a religion or not, to be honest. So this topic is a waste of energy/time, isn't it?</quote> Words have meanings, and that's important, so no it isn't meaningless.</quote> your response is literally "it's meaningful because it's meaningful"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad_Chad 07/16/18 10:35:27 PM #85:	eating air out of an empty bowl isnt a meal. dumb people just cant understand the absence of belief because it controls them like a bunch of fucking betas --- Sup, brah?! <cite>Rad_Chad posted [p:905207998] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>eating air out of an empty bowl isnt a meal. dumb people just cant understand the absence of belief because it controls them like a bunch of fucking betas</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 07/16/18 10:36:40 PM #86:	My hair color is bald <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:905208083] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>My hair color is bald</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 07/16/18 10:43:35 PM #87:	my favorite hobby is not having a hobby --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:905208501] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>my favorite hobby is not having a hobby</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 07/16/18 10:48:02 PM #89:	Asherlee10 posted... nicklebro posted... Asherlee10 posted... It seems that both camps hold a belief based on no evidence except for their feelings. It seems like a silly position. If something is unknowable, then why have a belief about it? Just leave it in the 'unknowable' bucket. That's not how anything works. You don't know the big bang happened, but I assume you believe it. There's tons of stuff you just can't know but believe anyways because there's sufficient evidence to convince you. Plus, you don't actually choose what you believe, it's not actually up to you. I don't think the big bang is unknowable. We have a lot of evidence for the theory which puts it in the 'beyond reasonable doubt" bucket. If there is sufficient evidence for something, then it isn't unknowable. I'm not sure what you mean by that. you cannot prove that you are not a brain in a jar somewhere, merely hallucinating your current life / other people / the universe. so there is a sense in which you cannot know those things, whereas you can know things like "i think therefore i am" --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905208743] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote> It seems that both camps hold a belief based on no evidence except for their feelings. It seems like a silly position. If something is unknowable, then why have a belief about it? Just leave it in the 'unknowable' bucket.</quote> That's not how anything works. You don't know the big bang happened, but I assume you believe it. There's tons of stuff you just can't know but believe anyways because there's sufficient evidence to convince you. Plus, you don't actually choose what you believe, it's not actually up to you.</quote> I don't think the big bang is unknowable. We have a lot of evidence for the theory which puts it in the 'beyond reasonable doubt" bucket. If there is sufficient evidence for something, then it isn't unknowable. I'm not sure what you mean by that.</quote> you cannot prove that you are not a brain in a jar somewhere, merely hallucinating your current life / other people / the universe. so there is a sense in which you cannot know those things, whereas you can know things like "i think therefore i am"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Ivory_Man 07/16/18 10:55:31 PM #92:	Asherlee10 posted... The_Ivory_Man posted... nicklebro posted... The_Ivory_Man posted... If the response to "What Religion are you?" Can be answered by "I'm an Atheist" It counts. It's like arguing being a centrist isn't a real political thing. I'm agnostic too, so it's not like I'm religious only entered a religious institution 7 times and those were three different Religions too. Lol no. You say you're atheist to explain you don't have a religion. If someone asks you what kinda women you like, you can answer "I'm gay" and it means you don't like any women. If somebody is asexual that's still a sexuality. I'm not so sure. I would think that asexual would mean an absence of a sexuality. The prefix "a-" comes from the Greek meaning "not." And yet, in terms of researchers it's just placed as a sexuality and used that way in discussions. Almost like the absence of something still counts as something. It's the "Is shaved hair a hair style" debate. --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan <cite>The_Ivory_Man posted [p:905209156] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Ivory_Man posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Ivory_Man posted...</cite> <quote>If the response to "What Religion are you?" Can be answered by "I'm an Atheist" It counts. It's like arguing being a centrist isn't a real political thing. I'm agnostic too, so it's not like I'm religious only entered a religious institution 7 times and those were three different Religions too.</quote> Lol no. You say you're atheist to explain you don't have a religion. If someone asks you what kinda women you like, you can answer "I'm gay" and it means you don't like any women.</quote> If somebody is asexual that's still a sexuality.</quote> I'm not so sure. I would think that asexual would mean an absence of a sexuality. <quote>The prefix "a-" comes from the Greek meaning "not."</quote></quote> And yet, in terms of researchers it's just placed as a sexuality and used that way in discussions. Almost like the absence of something still counts as something. It's the "Is shaved hair a hair style" debate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nicklebro 07/16/18 11:07:49 PM #94:	FLUFFYGERM posted... nicklebro posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Why does it matter what a worldview is classified as? Atheism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc, are worldviews. Each one stands or falls based on the evidence/reasoning behind it. It's not really monumental or consequential if someone classifies atheism as a religion or not, to be honest. So this topic is a waste of energy/time, isn't it? Words have meanings, and that's important, so no it isn't meaningless. your response is literally "it's meaningful because it's meaningful" Actually it's just "it's meaningful" WheezinEd posted... Merriam Webster trumps Wikipedia as a source. Sorry kiddo. And Merriam webster says exactly what I'm saying. Not to mention if you're knowledgeable on the etymology of the words then it's pretty clear what agnostic and gnostic mean. Here, since apparently only Merriam webster counts to you: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-do-secular-atheist-agnostic-mean Agnostic comes from the Greek word meaning "unknown" or "unknowable" (a-, "not" or "without," and gnstos, meaning "known"). Idk how you could possibly be ignorant enough to think that agnostic atheists (or agnostic theists) don't exist. This is common knowledge to anyone who knows wtf they're talking about. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:905209887] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Why does it matter what a worldview is classified as? Atheism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc, are worldviews. Each one stands or falls based on the evidence/reasoning behind it. It's not really monumental or consequential if someone classifies atheism as a religion or not, to be honest. So this topic is a waste of energy/time, isn't it?</quote> Words have meanings, and that's important, so no it isn't meaningless.</quote> your response is literally "it's meaningful because it's meaningful"</quote> Actually it's just "it's meaningful" <cite>WheezinEd posted...</cite> <quote>Merriam Webster trumps Wikipedia as a source. Sorry kiddo. </quote> And Merriam webster says exactly what I'm saying. Not to mention if you're knowledgeable on the etymology of the words then it's pretty clear what agnostic and gnostic mean. Here, since apparently only Merriam webster counts to you: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-do-secular-atheist-agnostic-mean Agnostic comes from the Greek word meaning "unknown" or "unknowable" (a-, "not" or "without," and gnstos, meaning "known"). Idk how you could possibly be ignorant enough to think that agnostic atheists (or agnostic theists) don't exist. This is common knowledge to anyone who knows wtf they're talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 07/16/18 11:09:37 PM #95:	Asherlee10 posted... I don't think the big bang is unknowable. We have a lot of evidence for the theory which puts it in the 'beyond reasonable doubt" bucket. If there is sufficient evidence for something, then it isn't unknowable. I'm not sure what you mean by that. It's impossible to know whether the big bang happened or not. Idk what else you need explained. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:905209979] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote> I don't think the big bang is unknowable. We have a lot of evidence for the theory which puts it in the 'beyond reasonable doubt" bucket. If there is sufficient evidence for something, then it isn't unknowable. I'm not sure what you mean by that.</quote> It's impossible to know whether the big bang happened or not. Idk what else you need explained.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Ivory_Man 07/16/18 11:12:41 PM #96:	Asherlee10 posted... The_Ivory_Man posted... Asherlee10 posted... The_Ivory_Man posted... nicklebro posted... The_Ivory_Man posted... If the response to "What Religion are you?" Can be answered by "I'm an Atheist" It counts. It's like arguing being a centrist isn't a real political thing. I'm agnostic too, so it's not like I'm religious only entered a religious institution 7 times and those were three different Religions too. Lol no. You say you're atheist to explain you don't have a religion. If someone asks you what kinda women you like, you can answer "I'm gay" and it means you don't like any women. If somebody is asexual that's still a sexuality. I'm not so sure. I would think that asexual would mean an absence of a sexuality. The prefix "a-" comes from the Greek meaning "not." And yet, in terms of researchers it's just placed as a sexuality and used that way in discussions. Almost like the absence of something still counts as something. It's the "Is shaved hair a hair style" debate. I'm not sure there would be a better place to discuss asexuality, if not alongside sexuality. Describing the absence of something still requires a discussion of that something. That doesn't mean the absence = that something. The same thing goes for a bald head. A bald head is best described in context of the opposite scenario, which would be a person having hair on their head. So a shaved head isn't a hair style according to you? --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan <cite>The_Ivory_Man posted [p:905210128] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Ivory_Man posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Ivory_Man posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Ivory_Man posted...</cite> <quote>If the response to "What Religion are you?" Can be answered by "I'm an Atheist" It counts. It's like arguing being a centrist isn't a real political thing. I'm agnostic too, so it's not like I'm religious only entered a religious institution 7 times and those were three different Religions too.</quote> Lol no. You say you're atheist to explain you don't have a religion. If someone asks you what kinda women you like, you can answer "I'm gay" and it means you don't like any women.</quote> If somebody is asexual that's still a sexuality.</quote> I'm not so sure. I would think that asexual would mean an absence of a sexuality. <quote>The prefix "a-" comes from the Greek meaning "not."</quote></quote> And yet, in terms of researchers it's just placed as a sexuality and used that way in discussions. Almost like the absence of something still counts as something. It's the "Is shaved hair a hair style" debate.</quote> I'm not sure there would be a better place to discuss asexuality, if not alongside sexuality. Describing the absence of something still requires a discussion of that something. That doesn't mean the absence = that something. The same thing goes for a bald head. A bald head is best described in context of the opposite scenario, which would be a person having hair on their head.</quote> So a shaved head isn't a hair style according to you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giblet_Enjoyer 07/16/18 11:17:59 PM #99:	No, but you do have to appreciate the subtle admission that religion is a bad thing that comes with that argument. --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:905210401] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>No, but you do have to appreciate the subtle admission that religion is a bad thing that comes with that argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 07/16/18 11:20:17 PM #100:	No, religion requires more than just having a thought about something. For atheism to be a religion, liking pasta would have to be a religion, and disliking hurricanes, and enjoying sex, and everything else really --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:905210536] in Is atheism... [t:76803779]...</cite> <quote>No, religion requires more than just having a thought about something. For atheism to be a religion, liking pasta would have to be a religion, and disliking hurricanes, and enjoying sex, and everything else really</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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