Poll of the Day > Is anti-bullying a farce?

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Solid Sonic 07/12/18 6:58:24 PM #1:	Is there really any hope for stamping out bullying? Can we really convince people to stop or is it just intrinsically human to zero in on weakness and harp on it? --- The only game reviewers who can be trusted are those who publish in Latin or Swahili. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:904969460] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>Is there really any hope for stamping out bullying? Can we really convince people to stop or is it just intrinsically human to zero in on weakness and harp on it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 07/12/18 6:59:45 PM #2:	It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:904969540] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 07/12/18 7:03:48 PM #3:	Kyuubi4269 posted... It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it. Even so, there are right and wrong ways to achieve recognition and respect. People need to learn to distinguish between them and to choose what is right. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:904969748] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it.</quote> Even so, there are right and wrong ways to achieve recognition and respect. People need to learn to distinguish between them and to choose what is right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 07/12/18 7:05:44 PM #4:	What is right is what gets results, and force is everybody's last resort. Bullying will exist as long as people want to climb heirarchy, so always. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:904969843] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>What is right is what gets results, and force is everybody's last resort. Bullying will exist as long as people want to climb heirarchy, so always.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 07/12/18 7:08:46 PM #5:	No, it's not a farce. Attitudes like 9nails are the farce. Lifting each other up is better than pushing each other down. --- PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:904969974] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>No, it's not a farce. Attitudes like 9nails are the farce. Lifting each other up is better than pushing each other down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 07/12/18 7:11:33 PM #6:	SunWuKung420 posted... No, it's not a farce. Attitudes like 9nails are the farce. Lifting each other up is better than pushing each other down. I'm being more of a cynic here. Not so much wishing the world was shitty but pointing out that I don't think we can bend people's behavior enough to stop bullying. There's just that part of the brain that will always want to pick on others if the opportunity presents itself. --- The only game reviewers who can be trusted are those who publish in Latin or Swahili. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:904970105] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>No, it's not a farce. Attitudes like 9nails are the farce. Lifting each other up is better than pushing each other down.</quote> I'm being more of a cynic here. Not so much wishing the world was shitty but pointing out that I don't think we can bend people's behavior enough to stop bullying. There's just that part of the brain that will always want to pick on others if the opportunity presents itself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 07/12/18 7:12:58 PM #7:	Solid Sonic posted... SunWuKung420 posted... No, it's not a farce. Attitudes like 9nails are the farce. Lifting each other up is better than pushing each other down. I'm being more of a cynic here. Not so much wishing the world was shitty but pointing out that I don't think we can bend people's behavior enough to stop bullying. There's just that part of the brain that will always want to pick on others if the opportunity presents itself. Bullying is a choice, not some autonomic action. --- PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:904970181] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>No, it's not a farce. Attitudes like 9nails are the farce. Lifting each other up is better than pushing each other down.</quote> I'm being more of a cynic here. Not so much wishing the world was shitty but pointing out that I don't think we can bend people's behavior enough to stop bullying. There's just that part of the brain that will always want to pick on others if the opportunity presents itself.</quote> Bullying is a choice, not some autonomic action.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 07/12/18 7:15:29 PM #8:	Sadly, as long as attitudes like "everyone for themselves" and "the ends justify the means" persist and remain the norm, forms of greed and corruption will as well. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:904970329] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>Sadly, as long as attitudes like "everyone for themselves" and "the ends justify the means" persist and remain the norm, forms of greed and corruption will as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LanHikari10 07/12/18 7:20:38 PM #9:	We can certainly help improve it, but I don't know about eliminate it. Zero tolerance policies I believe are not the way to go, though. --- https://imgur.com/FUshe https://imgur.com/o3JZO0i https://imgur.com/E5QxHCe http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1170-but-wait-theres-more <cite>LanHikari10 posted [p:904970609] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>We can certainly help improve it, but I don't know about eliminate it. Zero tolerance policies I believe are not the way to go, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 07/12/18 7:21:09 PM #10:	anti-bullying is stepping into bullying territory --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:904970645] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>anti-bullying is stepping into bullying territory</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 07/12/18 7:23:26 PM #11:	Solid Sonic posted... Is there really any hope for stamping out bullying? Nope. It's going to happen to anyone and everyone no matter what. Granted some have it a lot worse than others and I'm not trivialising the issue but it's unavoidable. This doesn't mean campaigns and whatnot shouldn't stop trying though and they may make some difference to someones life at least. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:904970775] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>Is there really any hope for stamping out bullying? </quote> Nope. It's going to happen to anyone and everyone no matter what. Granted some have it a lot worse than others and I'm not trivialising the issue but it's unavoidable. This doesn't mean campaigns and whatnot shouldn't stop trying though and they may make some difference to someones life at least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokchan 07/12/18 7:25:41 PM #12:	The solution to bullying has always been pranking. Flamedogpoo them --- Salty girl looking for cutie to crush the muffin. <cite>Lokchan posted [p:904970912] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>The solution to bullying has always been pranking. Flamedogpoo them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SKARDAVNELNATE 07/12/18 7:54:36 PM #13:	As far I can tell anti-bullying is just more bullying. Also, reverse-racism is just more racism and white-nationalism is just more identity politics. https://stt.wiki/w/images/thumb/9/95/Yarnek_Card.png/321px-Yarnek_Card.png You have failed to demonstrate any difference between your philosophies. Your good and evil use the same methods and achieve the same results. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB <cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted [p:904972484] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>As far I can tell anti-bullying is just more bullying. Also, reverse-racism is just more racism and white-nationalism is just more identity politics. https://stt.wiki/w/images/thumb/9/95/Yarnek_Card.png/321px-Yarnek_Card.png <quote>You have failed to demonstrate any difference between your philosophies. Your good and evil use the same methods and achieve the same results.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 07/12/18 8:03:19 PM #14:	Bullies are assholes. Sadly, they exist because there will always be people physically weaker than them. There's always a weaker kid. Bullying has decreased a lot in recent years. I just think what kids consider "bullying" is what has changed. Someone going on social media and typing some offensive things about your mom is NOT bullying. Bullying, to me, is being physically assaulted, shoved, humiliated, etc. Turned upside-down and dunked in a toilet at school. Having people smear your locker in garbage. Just terrorizing your life. I don't think that happens as much anymore. It happened in the 70's, 80's and 90's a lot. Then kids found the internet and calmed the hell down. And while weeding out weakness might have made evolutionary sense hundreds or thousands of years ago....it no longer has merit in our technological and civilized society. Physically weaker humans can compensate by being clever, talented, wealthy or have high social standing. I look around me and it seems to be the golden age of the Beta male. Soy boys. Most of the self-made millionaires in Silicon Valley probably couldn't do 50 push-ups if their life depended on it....but that isn't stopping them from slaying vagina with their reputation and bank accounts. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:904972952] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>Bullies are assholes. Sadly, they exist because there will always be people physically weaker than them. There's always a weaker kid. Bullying has decreased a lot in recent years. I just think what kids consider "bullying" is what has changed. Someone going on social media and typing some offensive things about your mom is NOT bullying. Bullying, to me, is being physically assaulted, shoved, humiliated, etc. Turned upside-down and dunked in a toilet at school. Having people smear your locker in garbage. Just terrorizing your life. I don't think that happens as much anymore. It happened in the 70's, 80's and 90's a lot. Then kids found the internet and calmed the hell down. And while weeding out weakness might have made evolutionary sense hundreds or thousands of years ago....it no longer has merit in our technological and civilized society. Physically weaker humans can compensate by being clever, talented, wealthy or have high social standing. I look around me and it seems to be the golden age of the Beta male. Soy boys. Most of the self-made millionaires in Silicon Valley probably couldn't do 50 push-ups if their life depended on it....but that isn't stopping them from slaying vagina with their reputation and bank accounts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blorfenburger 07/12/18 8:10:06 PM #15:	Haven't you ever seen a nature movie or movie with personified things and creatures? Humans BAD Can be pretty true. I mean just look at the PRESIDENT . of microsoft --- I use inverted controls. Also I hate fandoms. If you see a woman and you think she's thicc, she's probably not thicc. Come on boy you know what I'm all about. <cite>Blorfenburger posted [p:904973316] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>Haven't you ever seen a nature movie or movie with personified things and creatures? Humans BAD Can be pretty true. I mean just look at the PRESIDENT . of microsoft</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joemodda 07/12/18 8:38:58 PM #16:	Bullying is a problem, that's why we need to fun things like Bully Hunters to stop online harassment --- Whatever the cost, whatever the effort! <cite>joemodda posted [p:904974750] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>Bullying is a problem, that's why we need to fun things like Bully Hunters to stop online harassment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jbomb1234 07/12/18 9:01:18 PM #17:	Fist to the face, the only real anti bully. --- To Punish and Enslave Barricade My PSN name is jbomb1234 <cite>jbomb1234 posted [p:904976046] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>Fist to the face, the only real anti bully.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonjay 07/12/18 9:18:20 PM #18:	Just like all negative behavior, we'll never actually stop it. Unless we can find a way to fix or destroy all sociopaths, psychopaths, malignant narcissists, etc. Those are like one in every twenty people, so good luck with that. But we can make it socially not okay and make it known that it's bullshit and people like that suck. It's far better than just ignoring it. --- `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <cite>Moonjay posted [p:904976915] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>Just like all negative behavior, we'll never actually stop it. Unless we can find a way to fix or destroy all sociopaths, psychopaths, malignant narcissists, etc. Those are like one in every twenty people, so good luck with that. But we can make it socially not okay and make it known that it's bullshit and people like that suck. It's far better than just ignoring it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 07/12/18 9:39:34 PM #19:	Moonjay posted... Unless we can find a way to fix or destroy all sociopaths, psychopaths, malignant narcissists, etc. I truly believe that all those are learned conditions in response to terrible parenting. --- PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:904978126] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>Moonjay posted...</cite> <quote>Unless we can find a way to fix or destroy all sociopaths, psychopaths, malignant narcissists, etc. </quote> I truly believe that all those are learned conditions in response to terrible parenting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonjay 07/12/18 9:46:53 PM #20:	I dunno, I've seen cases of wonderful families that had a child who was apparently born evil. :P But yeah, I think many of the woes in the world are caused by bad parenting. Bad parents, grandparents, great grand parents... The gift never stops giving. It's like my cousin who has Borderline Personality Disorder. That is widely recognized as being caused by childhood abuse. Considering her dad did things like trying to run her over as she ran to our grandma's house in the middle of the night... And that fucker takes no responsibility for her. --- `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <cite>Moonjay posted [p:904978519] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>I dunno, I've seen cases of wonderful families that had a child who was apparently born evil. :P But yeah, I think many of the woes in the world are caused by bad parenting. Bad parents, grandparents, great grand parents... The gift never stops giving. It's like my cousin who has Borderline Personality Disorder. That is widely recognized as being caused by childhood abuse. Considering her dad did things like trying to run her over as she ran to our grandma's house in the middle of the night... And that fucker takes no responsibility for her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/12/18 11:12:15 PM #21:	Taco stand against bullying. Kyuubi4269 posted... What is right is what gets results, and force is everybody's last resort. Bullying will exist as long as people want to climb heirarchy, so always. Or, rather, bullying will continue until retaliatory acts like mass shootings, stabbings, etc, make potential bullies fear for their safety. After all, bullying largely happens because people think they can get away with it. gguirao posted... Sadly, as long as attitudes like "everyone for themselves" and "the ends justify the means" persist and remain the norm, forms of greed and corruption will as well. None of which has literally anything to do with bullying, especially because collectivist societies are among the most inclined to bully. After all, "the nail that sticks out gets hammered in." --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:904983072] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>Taco stand against bullying. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>What is right is what gets results, and force is everybody's last resort. Bullying will exist as long as people want to climb heirarchy, so always.</quote> Or, rather, bullying will continue until retaliatory acts like mass shootings, stabbings, etc, make potential bullies fear for their safety. After all, bullying largely happens because people think they can get away with it. <cite>gguirao posted...</cite> <quote>Sadly, as long as attitudes like "everyone for themselves" and "the ends justify the means" persist and remain the norm, forms of greed and corruption will as well.</quote> None of which has literally anything to do with bullying, especially because collectivist societies are among the most inclined to bully. After all, "the nail that sticks out gets hammered in."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VixYW 07/13/18 9:10:47 AM #22:	Kyuubi4269 posted... It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it. Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore. <cite>VixYW posted [p:904999774] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it.</quote> Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GameReviews 07/13/18 9:21:47 AM #23:	Just because something is assumed to be intrinsically human doesn't mean it should be encouraged or accepted. There are a lot of things that are intrinsically human that we probably shouldn't be okay with, such as murder and rape and war. --- Sign here. <cite>GameReviews posted [p:905000164] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>Just because something is assumed to be intrinsically human doesn't mean it should be encouraged or accepted. There are a lot of things that are intrinsically human that we probably shouldn't be okay with, such as murder and rape and war.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 07/13/18 9:33:08 AM #24:	VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it. Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore. We aren't going to evolve in to communists lol --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:905000582] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it.</quote> Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore.</quote> We aren't going to evolve in to communists lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VixYW 07/13/18 9:39:54 AM #25:	Kyuubi4269 posted... VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it. Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore. We aren't going to evolve in to communists lol That's not what I meant... <cite>VixYW posted [p:905000809] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it.</quote> Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore.</quote> We aren't going to evolve in to communists lol</quote> That's not what I meant...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 07/13/18 9:42:33 AM #26:	VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it. Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore. We aren't going to evolve in to communists lol That's not what I meant... It's the end result though. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:905000902] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it.</quote> Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore.</quote> We aren't going to evolve in to communists lol</quote> That's not what I meant...</quote> It's the end result though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VixYW 07/13/18 10:05:51 AM #27:	Kyuubi4269 posted... VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it. Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore. We aren't going to evolve in to communists lol That's not what I meant... It's the end result though. You're saying that capitalism can't exist if people stop feeling the need to climb in the hierarchy just to be recognised of their position alone? <cite>VixYW posted [p:905001880] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it.</quote> Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore.</quote> We aren't going to evolve in to communists lol</quote> That's not what I meant...</quote> It's the end result though.</quote> You're saying that capitalism can't exist if people stop feeling the need to climb in the hierarchy just to be recognised of their position alone?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 07/13/18 11:15:11 AM #28:	VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it. Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore. We aren't going to evolve in to communists lol That's not what I meant... It's the end result though. You're saying that capitalism can't exist if people stop feeling the need to climb in the hierarchy just to be recognised of their position alone? Yes. If people don't need to get better then they'll choose the easiest job and the country stagnates. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:905005152] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it.</quote> Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore.</quote> We aren't going to evolve in to communists lol</quote> That's not what I meant...</quote> It's the end result though.</quote> You're saying that capitalism can't exist if people stop feeling the need to climb in the hierarchy just to be recognised of their position alone?</quote> Yes. If people don't need to get better then they'll choose the easiest job and the country stagnates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/13/18 12:22:22 PM #29:	Kyuubi4269 posted... VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it. Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore. We aren't going to evolve in to communists lol That's not what I meant... It's the end result though. You're saying that capitalism can't exist if people stop feeling the need to climb in the hierarchy just to be recognised of their position alone? Yes. If people don't need to get better then they'll choose the easiest job and the country stagnates. But bullying offers no inherent societal improvement. If anything, it discourages success because people are able to attain and hold higher status without putting in work. Which, again, is why it's so common in collectivist societies. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:905008612] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it.</quote> Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore.</quote> We aren't going to evolve in to communists lol</quote> That's not what I meant...</quote> It's the end result though.</quote> You're saying that capitalism can't exist if people stop feeling the need to climb in the hierarchy just to be recognised of their position alone?</quote> Yes. If people don't need to get better then they'll choose the easiest job and the country stagnates.</quote> But bullying offers no inherent societal improvement. If anything, it discourages success because people are able to attain and hold higher status without putting in work. Which, again, is why it's so common in collectivist societies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 07/13/18 12:26:38 PM #30:	Zeus posted... But bullying offers no inherent societal improvement. If anything, it discourages success because people are able to attain and hold higher status without putting in work. Which, again, is why it's so common in collectivist societies. Bullying is not good, but the motivator is. If you remove the motivator you're fucked but if you don't then bullying persists. Learn to live with it. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:905008800] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>But bullying offers no inherent societal improvement. If anything, it discourages success because people are able to attain and hold higher status without putting in work. Which, again, is why it's so common in collectivist societies.</quote> Bullying is not good, but the motivator is. If you remove the motivator you're fucked but if you don't then bullying persists. Learn to live with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 07/13/18 12:33:08 PM #31:	I'd say the majority of vocal people would bully someone if they disagreed with them on something, people are just that mean. <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:905009081] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>I'd say the majority of vocal people would bully someone if they disagreed with them on something, people are just that mean.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/13/18 12:33:46 PM #32:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Zeus posted... But bullying offers no inherent societal improvement. If anything, it discourages success because people are able to attain and hold higher status without putting in work. Which, again, is why it's so common in collectivist societies. Bullying is not good, but the motivator is. If you remove the motivator you're fucked but if you don't then bullying persists. Learn to live with it. Given that bullying can have any number of motivations, it's impossible to say that the motivation is good unless you're saying that every single motivation for it is good -- including petty reasons like the bully just wanting to feel better about themselves or being jealous. And, again, in the case of collectivist societies, it's used to force cultural homogeny which, while good for maintaining culture, can be terrible for moving a society forward. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:905009112] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>But bullying offers no inherent societal improvement. If anything, it discourages success because people are able to attain and hold higher status without putting in work. Which, again, is why it's so common in collectivist societies.</quote> Bullying is not good, but the motivator is. If you remove the motivator you're fucked but if you don't then bullying persists. Learn to live with it.</quote> Given that bullying can have any number of motivations, it's impossible to say that the motivation is good unless you're saying that every single motivation for it is good -- including petty reasons like the bully just wanting to feel better about themselves or being jealous. And, again, in the case of collectivist societies, it's used to force cultural homogeny which, while good for maintaining culture, can be terrible for moving a society forward.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 07/13/18 12:35:26 PM #33:	Lol, 9tails still thinks capitalism is good for a civil society. --- PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:905009199] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>Lol, 9tails still thinks capitalism is good for a civil society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 07/13/18 12:39:29 PM #34:	Zeus posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Zeus posted... But bullying offers no inherent societal improvement. If anything, it discourages success because people are able to attain and hold higher status without putting in work. Which, again, is why it's so common in collectivist societies. Bullying is not good, but the motivator is. If you remove the motivator you're fucked but if you don't then bullying persists. Learn to live with it. Given that bullying can have any number of motivations, it's impossible to say that the motivation is good unless you're saying that every single motivation for it is good -- including petty reasons like the bully just wanting to feel better about themselves or being jealous. And, again, in the case of collectivist societies, it's used to force cultural homogeny which, while good for maintaining culture, can be terrible for moving a society forward. I already stated what motivator I was addressing and your statement doesn't negate what I said, lrn2read. SunWuKung420 posted... Lol, 9tails still thinks capitalism is good for a civil society. lol Sunny thinks Communism is good for a civil society. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:905009428] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>But bullying offers no inherent societal improvement. If anything, it discourages success because people are able to attain and hold higher status without putting in work. Which, again, is why it's so common in collectivist societies.</quote> Bullying is not good, but the motivator is. If you remove the motivator you're fucked but if you don't then bullying persists. Learn to live with it.</quote> Given that bullying can have any number of motivations, it's impossible to say that the motivation is good unless you're saying that every single motivation for it is good -- including petty reasons like the bully just wanting to feel better about themselves or being jealous. And, again, in the case of collectivist societies, it's used to force cultural homogeny which, while good for maintaining culture, can be terrible for moving a society forward.</quote> I already stated what motivator I was addressing and your statement doesn't negate what I said, lrn2read. <cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>Lol, 9tails still thinks capitalism is good for a civil society.</quote> lol Sunny thinks Communism is good for a civil society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 07/13/18 12:56:21 PM #35:	I never said anything about communism but I do know that capitalism is a drain on resources. If you think I'm wrong, go walk through a garbage dump and so how wasteful our society currently is. It's unsustainable and we have capitalism to thank for that. Deal with it. --- PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:905010287] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>I never said anything about communism but I do know that capitalism is a drain on resources. If you think I'm wrong, go walk through a garbage dump and so how wasteful our society currently is. It's unsustainable and we have capitalism to thank for that. Deal with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 07/13/18 1:56:46 PM #36:	i can go to college and make 18$ an hour instead of 15$ bucks an hour wooo <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:905013556] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>i can go to college and make 18$ an hour instead of 15$ bucks an hour wooo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VixYW 07/13/18 2:21:55 PM #37:	Kyuubi4269 posted... VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... VixYW posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it. Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore. We aren't going to evolve in to communists lol That's not what I meant... It's the end result though. You're saying that capitalism can't exist if people stop feeling the need to climb in the hierarchy just to be recognised of their position alone? Yes. If people don't need to get better then they'll choose the easiest job and the country stagnates. I disagree. People will get better if they need to for a reasonable reason. But doing it just because it feels good being important almost never ends well. <cite>VixYW posted [p:905014888] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>It's intrinsically human to have a heirarchy and want people to recognise your position in it.</quote> Which is one of the reasons I despise humanity and hope our brains evolve further into not needing to do that anymore.</quote> We aren't going to evolve in to communists lol</quote> That's not what I meant...</quote> It's the end result though.</quote> You're saying that capitalism can't exist if people stop feeling the need to climb in the hierarchy just to be recognised of their position alone?</quote> Yes. If people don't need to get better then they'll choose the easiest job and the country stagnates.</quote> I disagree. People will get better if they need to for a reasonable reason. But doing it just because it feels good being important almost never ends well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 07/13/18 2:39:27 PM #38:	SunWuKung420 posted... I never said anything about communism but I do know that capitalism is a drain on resources. If you think I'm wrong, go walk through a garbage dump and so how wasteful our society currently is. It's unsustainable and we have capitalism to thank for that. Deal with it. Sure, however it produces more than that so even when accounting for waste you end up with more resources for everyone. Regarding sustainability, gtfo, when it's profitable to not waste then it doesn't happen. VixYW posted... I disagree. People will get better if they need to for a reasonable reason. But doing it just because it feels good being important almost never ends well. People do better if they need to, they don't actually get better. When there's a space to dominate, the strong capitalise on it. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:905015874] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>I never said anything about communism but I do know that capitalism is a drain on resources. If you think I'm wrong, go walk through a garbage dump and so how wasteful our society currently is. It's unsustainable and we have capitalism to thank for that. Deal with it.</quote> Sure, however it produces more than that so even when accounting for waste you end up with more resources for everyone. Regarding sustainability, gtfo, when it's profitable to not waste then it doesn't happen. <cite>VixYW posted...</cite> <quote>I disagree. People will get better if they need to for a reasonable reason. But doing it just because it feels good being important almost never ends well.</quote> People do better if they need to, they don't actually get better. When there's a space to dominate, the strong capitalise on it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 07/13/18 2:42:04 PM #39:	And that, my friends, is the idiocy known as capitalism. --- PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:905016004] in Is anti-bu... [t:76801523]...</cite> <quote>And that, my friends, is the idiocy known as capitalism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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