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helIy 06/19/18 7:41:29 AM #51:	it's literally just rust --- up ahead there was a curve approaching she made no indications of slowing. <cite>helIy posted [p:903553003] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote>it's literally just rust</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/19/18 9:28:39 AM #52:	helIy posted... it's literally just rust Is rust bad? --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903556331] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>it's literally just rust</quote> Is rust bad?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/19/18 9:29:24 AM #53:	shadowsword87 posted... I mean, what are you expecting to get out of it? Everything that Fallout is known for not-setting wise isn't there. No NPCs, no story, no choices, hell, there's no damn stealth. How do you know there isnt any of those things? According to everything Ive seen the game has all of that stuff --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903556368] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>shadowsword87 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, what are you expecting to get out of it? Everything that Fallout is known for not-setting wise isn't there. No NPCs, no story, no choices, hell, there's no damn stealth.</quote> How do you know there isnt any of those things? According to everything Ive seen the game has all of that stuff</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 06/19/18 9:29:37 AM #54:	As someone from WV... I'm getting the game. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:903556376] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote>As someone from WV... I'm getting the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 06/19/18 10:01:30 AM #55:	helIy posted... it's literally just rust I'm not familiar with Rust, should I be worried? --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:903557753] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>it's literally just rust</quote> I'm not familiar with Rust, should I be worried?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
aurick79 06/19/18 10:04:35 AM #56:	helIy posted... it's literally just rust Rust has quests? --- 3DS FC Scott 0533-5781-3558 Pokemon: Pidgey, Woobat, Rufflet <cite>aurick79 posted [p:903557885] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>it's literally just rust</quote> Rust has quests?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 06/19/18 10:36:06 AM #57:	Mead posted... How do you know there isnt any of those things? According to everything Ive seen the game has all of that stuff Todd confirmed that Fallout 76 features no NPCs, except for robots: There are no NPCs. So thats one of the big differences that we really leaned on, which is every character you see is a real person. But there are still robots and terminals and holotapes. https://gamerant.com/fallout-76-npc-quests/amp/ Yeah, pretty clear on my end that there won't be any amount of story even similar to 4, let alone NV. --- ImmortalityV, "I would like to kiss Icoyar to be honest in a non gay way though" <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:903559466] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>How do you know there isnt any of those things? According to everything Ive seen the game has all of that stuff</quote> <quote>Todd confirmed that Fallout 76 features no NPCs, except for robots: There are no NPCs. So thats one of the big differences that we really leaned on, which is every character you see is a real person. But there are still robots and terminals and holotapes.</quote> https://gamerant.com/fallout-76-npc-quests/amp/ Yeah, pretty clear on my end that there won't be any amount of story even similar to 4, let alone NV.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/19/18 10:45:45 AM #58:	shadowsword87 posted... Mead posted... How do you know there isnt any of those things? According to everything Ive seen the game has all of that stuff Todd confirmed that Fallout 76 features no NPCs, except for robots: There are no NPCs. So thats one of the big differences that we really leaned on, which is every character you see is a real person. But there are still robots and terminals and holotapes. https://gamerant.com/fallout-76-npc-quests/amp/ Yeah, pretty clear on my end that there won't be any amount of story even similar to 4, let alone NV. To me though the best story for Fallout and Elder scrolls has always been the lore you find in things like books, terminals, and holotapes. The plot of the main story is usually pretty dull, especially on repeat playthroughs. I always have the most fun just kinda doing my own thing and exploring in those games rather than following static quest lines. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903559937] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>shadowsword87 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>How do you know there isnt any of those things? According to everything Ive seen the game has all of that stuff</quote> <quote>Todd confirmed that Fallout 76 features no NPCs, except for robots: There are no NPCs. So thats one of the big differences that we really leaned on, which is every character you see is a real person. But there are still robots and terminals and holotapes.</quote> https://gamerant.com/fallout-76-npc-quests/amp/ Yeah, pretty clear on my end that there won't be any amount of story even similar to 4, let alone NV.</quote> To me though the best story for Fallout and Elder scrolls has always been the lore you find in things like books, terminals, and holotapes. The plot of the main story is usually pretty dull, especially on repeat playthroughs. I always have the most fun just kinda doing my own thing and exploring in those games rather than following static quest lines.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 06/19/18 10:46:57 AM #59:	aurick79 posted... helIy posted... it's literally just rust Rust has quests? f76 doesn't have quests. --- up ahead there was a curve approaching she made no indications of slowing. <cite>helIy posted [p:903560003] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>it's literally just rust</quote> Rust has quests?</quote> f76 doesn't have quests.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/19/18 10:48:41 AM #60:	Mead posted... To me though the best story for Fallout and Elder scrolls has always been the lore you find in things like books, terminals, and holotapes. You can have literally the same experience just reading the wikis. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:903560083] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>To me though the best story for Fallout and Elder scrolls has always been the lore you find in things like books, terminals, and holotapes.</quote> You can have literally the same experience just reading the wikis. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/19/18 10:48:47 AM #61:	helIy posted... aurick79 posted... helIy posted... it's literally just rust Rust has quests? f76 doesn't have quests. Theyve literally said there are quests You just get them from robots or discover them from holotapes, etc --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903560092] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>it's literally just rust</quote> Rust has quests?</quote> f76 doesn't have quests.</quote> Theyve literally said there are quests You just get them from robots or discover them from holotapes, etc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/19/18 10:49:07 AM #62:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Mead posted... To me though the best story for Fallout and Elder scrolls has always been the lore you find in things like books, terminals, and holotapes. You can have literally the same experience just reading the wikis. But I wanna shoot things in between --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903560110] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>To me though the best story for Fallout and Elder scrolls has always been the lore you find in things like books, terminals, and holotapes.</quote> You can have literally the same experience just reading the wikis. </quote> But I wanna shoot things in between</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 06/19/18 10:51:01 AM #63:	Mead posted... helIy posted... aurick79 posted... helIy posted... it's literally just rust Rust has quests? f76 doesn't have quests. Theyve literally said there are quests You just get them from robots or discover them from holotapes, etc >gather 6 of some items, come back tomorrow for the same thing awesome quests. there is no story in this game, either. --- up ahead there was a curve approaching she made no indications of slowing. <cite>helIy posted [p:903560211] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>it's literally just rust</quote> Rust has quests?</quote> f76 doesn't have quests.</quote> Theyve literally said there are quests You just get them from robots or discover them from holotapes, etc</quote> >gather 6 of some items, come back tomorrow for the same thing awesome quests. there is no story in this game, either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/19/18 10:55:08 AM #64:	Mead posted... But I wanna shoot things in between Read the wikis while playing a better FPS during occasional breaks. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:903560428] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>But I wanna shoot things in between</quote> Read the wikis while playing a better FPS during occasional breaks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/19/18 10:56:34 AM #65:	helIy posted... Mead posted... helIy posted... aurick79 posted... helIy posted... it's literally just rust Rust has quests? f76 doesn't have quests. Theyve literally said there are quests You just get them from robots or discover them from holotapes, etc >gather 6 of some items, come back tomorrow for the same thing awesome quests. there is no story in this game, either. Well see I wanna explore treewoods and shoot some big sloths. Im easily entertained --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903560506] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>it's literally just rust</quote> Rust has quests?</quote> f76 doesn't have quests.</quote> Theyve literally said there are quests You just get them from robots or discover them from holotapes, etc</quote> >gather 6 of some items, come back tomorrow for the same thing awesome quests. there is no story in this game, either.</quote> Well see I wanna explore treewoods and shoot some big sloths. Im easily entertained</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/19/18 10:57:23 AM #66:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Mead posted... But I wanna shoot things in between Read the wikis while playing a better FPS during occasional breaks. I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903560553] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>But I wanna shoot things in between</quote> Read the wikis while playing a better FPS during occasional breaks. </quote> I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 06/19/18 11:27:45 AM #67:	Mead posted... ParanoidObsessive posted... Mead posted... But I wanna shoot things in between Read the wikis while playing a better FPS during occasional breaks. I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me Sigged so we can make fun of you later. --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:903562243] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>But I wanna shoot things in between</quote> Read the wikis while playing a better FPS during occasional breaks. </quote> I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me</quote> Sigged so we can make fun of you later.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/19/18 11:40:41 AM #68:	Smarkil posted... Mead posted... ParanoidObsessive posted... Mead posted... But I wanna shoot things in between Read the wikis while playing a better FPS during occasional breaks. I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me Sigged so we can make fun of you later. You can make fun of me now --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903562966] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>But I wanna shoot things in between</quote> Read the wikis while playing a better FPS during occasional breaks. </quote> I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me</quote> Sigged so we can make fun of you later.</quote> You can make fun of me now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 06/19/18 12:04:35 PM #69:	Mead posted... Smarkil posted... Mead posted... ParanoidObsessive posted... Mead posted... But I wanna shoot things in between Read the wikis while playing a better FPS during occasional breaks. I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me Sigged so we can make fun of you later. You can make fun of me now u r dum and ur butt stinks --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:903564374] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>But I wanna shoot things in between</quote> Read the wikis while playing a better FPS during occasional breaks. </quote> I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me</quote> Sigged so we can make fun of you later.</quote> You can make fun of me now</quote> u r dum and ur butt stinks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
aurick79 06/20/18 6:43:14 AM #70:	helIy posted... Mead posted... helIy posted... aurick79 posted... helIy posted... it's literally just rust Rust has quests? f76 doesn't have quests. Theyve literally said there are quests You just get them from robots or discover them from holotapes, etc >gather 6 of some items, come back tomorrow for the same thing awesome quests. there is no story in this game, either. And what are you basing this on? What "inside scoop" do you have? --- 3DS FC Scott 0533-5781-3558 Pokemon: Pidgey, Woobat, Rufflet <cite>aurick79 posted [p:903617134] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>it's literally just rust</quote> Rust has quests?</quote> f76 doesn't have quests.</quote> Theyve literally said there are quests You just get them from robots or discover them from holotapes, etc</quote> >gather 6 of some items, come back tomorrow for the same thing awesome quests. there is no story in this game, either.</quote> And what are you basing this on? What "inside scoop" do you have?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 06/20/18 7:01:29 AM #71:	aurick79 posted... helIy posted... Mead posted... helIy posted... aurick79 posted... helIy posted... it's literally just rust Rust has quests? f76 doesn't have quests. Theyve literally said there are quests You just get them from robots or discover them from holotapes, etc >gather 6 of some items, come back tomorrow for the same thing awesome quests. there is no story in this game, either. And what are you basing this on? What "inside scoop" do you have? did you not watch the conference, or --- up ahead there was a curve approaching she made no indications of slowing. <cite>helIy posted [p:903617487] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>it's literally just rust</quote> Rust has quests?</quote> f76 doesn't have quests.</quote> Theyve literally said there are quests You just get them from robots or discover them from holotapes, etc</quote> >gather 6 of some items, come back tomorrow for the same thing awesome quests. there is no story in this game, either.</quote> And what are you basing this on? What "inside scoop" do you have?</quote> did you not watch the conference, or</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathMagnetic80 06/20/18 2:43:11 PM #72:	I'm probably gonna pre-order it at GASP Gamestop and play with my friends ON A CONSOLE! OH, THE HUGE MANATEE! <cite>DeathMagnetic80 posted [p:903638534] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote>I'm probably gonna pre-order it at GASP Gamestop and play with my friends ON A CONSOLE! OH, THE HUGE MANATEE!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/20/18 2:49:00 PM #73:	DeathMagnetic80 posted... I'm probably gonna pre-order it at GASP Gamestop and play with my friends ON A CONSOLE! OH, THE HUGE MANATEE! Just make sure youre eating Doritos and drinking coors light while you do it --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903638985] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>DeathMagnetic80 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm probably gonna pre-order it at GASP Gamestop and play with my friends ON A CONSOLE! OH, THE HUGE MANATEE!</quote> Just make sure youre eating Doritos and drinking coors light while you do it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
aurick79 06/20/18 2:57:44 PM #74:	helIy posted... aurick79 posted... helIy posted... Mead posted... helIy posted... aurick79 posted... helIy posted... it's literally just rust Rust has quests? f76 doesn't have quests. Theyve literally said there are quests You just get them from robots or discover them from holotapes, etc >gather 6 of some items, come back tomorrow for the same thing awesome quests. there is no story in this game, either. And what are you basing this on? What "inside scoop" do you have? did you not watch the conference, or Yes, I watched the conference, the follow up interviews with Pete & Todd, and the No Clip documentary, as well as read the follow up articles on it There is story and quests in the game that are presented to the characters through robots, holotapes, notes, etc - as well as the main story presented to the player from the overseer - which all leads to the quest to get the codes for launching the nukes. Did you only watch the conference? --- 3DS FC Scott 0533-5781-3558 Pokemon: Pidgey, Woobat, Rufflet <cite>aurick79 posted [p:903639537] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>it's literally just rust</quote> Rust has quests?</quote> f76 doesn't have quests.</quote> Theyve literally said there are quests You just get them from robots or discover them from holotapes, etc</quote> >gather 6 of some items, come back tomorrow for the same thing awesome quests. there is no story in this game, either.</quote> And what are you basing this on? What "inside scoop" do you have?</quote> did you not watch the conference, or</quote> Yes, I watched the conference, the follow up interviews with Pete & Todd, and the No Clip documentary, as well as read the follow up articles on it There is story and quests in the game that are presented to the characters through robots, holotapes, notes, etc - as well as the main story presented to the player from the overseer - which all leads to the quest to get the codes for launching the nukes. Did you only watch the conference?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 06/20/18 3:31:53 PM #75:	aurick79 posted... There is story and quests in the game that are presented to the characters through robots, holotapes, notes, etc - as well as the main story presented to the player from the overseer - which all leads to the quest to get the codes for launching the nukes. yeah that's not a story dude --- up ahead there was a curve approaching she made no indications of slowing. <cite>helIy posted [p:903641933] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote> There is story and quests in the game that are presented to the characters through robots, holotapes, notes, etc - as well as the main story presented to the player from the overseer - which all leads to the quest to get the codes for launching the nukes. </quote> yeah that's not a story dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/20/18 3:44:21 PM #76:	helIy posted... aurick79 posted... There is story and quests in the game that are presented to the characters through robots, holotapes, notes, etc - as well as the main story presented to the player from the overseer - which all leads to the quest to get the codes for launching the nukes. yeah that's not a story dude How is that not a story --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903642727] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote> There is story and quests in the game that are presented to the characters through robots, holotapes, notes, etc - as well as the main story presented to the player from the overseer - which all leads to the quest to get the codes for launching the nukes. </quote> yeah that's not a story dude</quote> How is that not a story</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 06/20/18 4:00:29 PM #77:	it's a lead up to a game mechanic it's not a story at all --- up ahead there was a curve approaching she made no indications of slowing. <cite>helIy posted [p:903643705] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote>it's a lead up to a game mechanic it's not a story at all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/20/18 4:02:50 PM #78:	helIy posted... it's a lead up to a game mechanic it's not a story at all It can be both. Most stories in games are there to motivate the player to do things --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903643839] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>it's a lead up to a game mechanic it's not a story at all</quote> It can be both. Most stories in games are there to motivate the player to do things</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
aurick79 06/20/18 4:16:37 PM #79:	helIy posted... aurick79 posted... There is story and quests in the game that are presented to the characters through robots, holotapes, notes, etc - as well as the main story presented to the player from the overseer - which all leads to the quest to get the codes for launching the nukes. yeah that's not a story dude You may not like it. It may not be a good one (which remains to be seen). But it will fit the definition of a story. Stop moving goal posts - first you say there are no quests, then it's pointed out that there are quests. Now your trying to say there is no story - but we know there will be a story. Where are you going to move the goal post too next? --- 3DS FC Scott 0533-5781-3558 Pokemon: Pidgey, Woobat, Rufflet <cite>aurick79 posted [p:903644721] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote> There is story and quests in the game that are presented to the characters through robots, holotapes, notes, etc - as well as the main story presented to the player from the overseer - which all leads to the quest to get the codes for launching the nukes. </quote> yeah that's not a story dude</quote> You may not like it. It may not be a good one (which remains to be seen). But it will fit the definition of a story. Stop moving goal posts - first you say there are no quests, then it's pointed out that there are quests. Now your trying to say there is no story - but we know there will be a story. Where are you going to move the goal post too next?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 06/20/18 4:34:16 PM #80:	aurick79 posted... Stop moving goal posts - first you say there are no quests, then it's pointed out that there are quests. Now your trying to say there is no story - but we know there will be a story. Where are you going to move the goal post too next? i haven't moved anything there's no story, and there's no quests. you can think there will be but there isn't. --- up ahead there was a curve approaching she made no indications of slowing. <cite>helIy posted [p:903645829] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote> Stop moving goal posts - first you say there are no quests, then it's pointed out that there are quests. Now your trying to say there is no story - but we know there will be a story. Where are you going to move the goal post too next? </quote> i haven't moved anything there's no story, and there's no quests. you can think there will be but there isn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
aurick79 06/20/18 4:46:05 PM #81:	helIy posted... aurick79 posted... Stop moving goal posts - first you say there are no quests, then it's pointed out that there are quests. Now your trying to say there is no story - but we know there will be a story. Where are you going to move the goal post too next? i haven't moved anything there's no story, and there's no quests. you can think there will be but there isn't. There being a story and quests is objective. Objectively, there will be both in the game based on the definition of what both are. A fetch quest or collect 6 of a thing is, objectively, a quest as it fits the definition. The story and quests being good is subjective. But neither of us have any insight to the quality of the quests. You are simply making assumptions based on the fact that there are no living NPCs in the game. I don't know what the quality will look like, but neither do you. You are making statements as fact when its nothing more than assumptions. --- 3DS FC Scott 0533-5781-3558 Pokemon: Pidgey, Woobat, Rufflet <cite>aurick79 posted [p:903646563] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote> Stop moving goal posts - first you say there are no quests, then it's pointed out that there are quests. Now your trying to say there is no story - but we know there will be a story. Where are you going to move the goal post too next? </quote> i haven't moved anything there's no story, and there's no quests. you can think there will be but there isn't.</quote> There being a story and quests is objective. Objectively, there will be both in the game based on the definition of what both are. A fetch quest or collect 6 of a thing is, objectively, a quest as it fits the definition. The story and quests being good is subjective. But neither of us have any insight to the quality of the quests. You are simply making assumptions based on the fact that there are no living NPCs in the game. I don't know what the quality will look like, but neither do you. You are making statements as fact when its nothing more than assumptions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/20/18 5:08:18 PM #82:	helIy posted... aurick79 posted... Stop moving goal posts - first you say there are no quests, then it's pointed out that there are quests. Now your trying to say there is no story - but we know there will be a story. Where are you going to move the goal post too next? i haven't moved anything there's no story, and there's no quests. you can think there will be but there isn't. Its literally confirmed that there are both of those things --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903647945] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote> Stop moving goal posts - first you say there are no quests, then it's pointed out that there are quests. Now your trying to say there is no story - but we know there will be a story. Where are you going to move the goal post too next? </quote> i haven't moved anything there's no story, and there's no quests. you can think there will be but there isn't.</quote> Its literally confirmed that there are both of those things</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 06/20/18 7:45:02 PM #83:	no. --- up ahead there was a curve approaching she made no indications of slowing. <cite>helIy posted [p:903657341] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote>no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 06/20/18 8:12:58 PM #84:	There are confirmed quests, but no story. So... what sort of quests do you think you will be having, other than complete garbage fetch quests? --- ImmortalityV, "I would like to kiss Icoyar to be honest in a non gay way though" <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:903658988] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote>There are confirmed quests, but no story. So... what sort of quests do you think you will be having, other than complete garbage fetch quests?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/20/18 8:17:55 PM #85:	Probably quests that have you play the game Like any other game --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903659255] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote>Probably quests that have you play the game Like any other game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
aurick79 06/20/18 8:52:10 PM #86:	shadowsword87 posted... There are confirmed quests, but no story. So... what sort of quests do you think you will be having, other than complete garbage fetch quests? There is a confirmed story https://gamingbolt.com/fallout-76-will-be-as-story-focused-as-other-bethesda-games-report https://www.vg247.com/2018/06/13/673736/ Can we at least wait until the beta before trashing the game for it's lack of story? (assuming there is a lack of story) --- 3DS FC Scott 0533-5781-3558 Pokemon: Pidgey, Woobat, Rufflet <cite>aurick79 posted [p:903661283] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>shadowsword87 posted...</cite> <quote>There are confirmed quests, but no story. So... what sort of quests do you think you will be having, other than complete garbage fetch quests?</quote> There is a confirmed story https://gamingbolt.com/fallout-76-will-be-as-story-focused-as-other-bethesda-games-report https://www.vg247.com/2018/06/13/673736/ Can we at least wait until the beta before trashing the game for it's lack of story? (assuming there is a lack of story)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/21/18 6:35:43 AM #87:	aurick79 posted... There being a story and quests is objective. Objectively, there will be both in the game based on the definition of what both are. A fetch quest or collect 6 of a thing is, objectively, a quest as it fits the definition. This post sort of sums up a lot of the problem with the discussion - an issue of operational definitions. When most people say the word "quest" in reference to an RPG (especially one from a franchise known for more narratively-heavy gameplay), what they mean are story quests, where each quest furthers an overarching narrative, or at least provides a side-story tangential to the main plot (in other words, the sort of quests you find in games like Skyrim or previous Fallout games). While "fetch quests" are indeed quests (the clue is in the name), it's rarely what those people mean by the term - so people saying "there are no quests" and "there are clearly quests" may technically both be right. In the same vein, "story" can also be defined in different ways. Even some of the most story-light games still have some backstory (even if it's just tossed out in a paragraph or so in the game manual). Super Mario Bros technically has a "story", even if literally no one would ever describe it as a "story game". But when people talk about "story" in narrative-heavy RPGs, they're not talking about the setting's backstory as much as they are the overarching narrative of the game itself - and plenty of games DON'T really have that. Games like Ark or Metal Gear Survive DO technically have "story" - but not a single sane, rational person would ever refer to them as "story games". And when people online discuss whether or not a game set in the story-heavy Fallout universe has a STORY, what they're generally referring to is "Does this game have a narrative that plays out over the course of the game?", not "Does the game have backstory?" or "Can I read about completely disconnected and irrelevant anecdotes about dead people on terminals?" aurick79 posted... There is a confirmed story https://gamingbolt.com/fallout-76-will-be-as-story-focused-as-other-bethesda-games-report https://www.vg247.com/2018/06/13/673736 That's not really confirmation. The first link is a leaked rumor from a source (Kotaku/Jason Schreier) that Bethesda themselves have said shouldn't be considered reliable, and the second is an article where they talk about game mechanics and don't make a single mention of overarching narrative. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:903681646] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote>There being a story and quests is objective. Objectively, there will be both in the game based on the definition of what both are. A fetch quest or collect 6 of a thing is, objectively, a quest as it fits the definition.</quote> This post sort of sums up a lot of the problem with the discussion - an issue of operational definitions. When most people say the word "quest" in reference to an RPG (especially one from a franchise known for more narratively-heavy gameplay), what they mean are story quests, where each quest furthers an overarching narrative, or at least provides a side-story tangential to the main plot (in other words, the sort of quests you find in games like Skyrim or previous Fallout games). While "fetch quests" are indeed quests (the clue is in the name), it's rarely what those people mean by the term - so people saying "there are no quests" and "there are clearly quests" may technically both be right. In the same vein, "story" can also be defined in different ways. Even some of the most story-light games still have some backstory (even if it's just tossed out in a paragraph or so in the game manual). Super Mario Bros technically has a "story", even if literally no one would ever describe it as a "story game". But when people talk about "story" in narrative-heavy RPGs, they're not talking about the setting's backstory as much as they are the overarching narrative of the game itself - and plenty of games DON'T really have that. Games like Ark or Metal Gear Survive DO technically have "story" - but not a single sane, rational person would ever refer to them as "story games". And when people online discuss whether or not a game set in the story-heavy Fallout universe has a STORY, what they're generally referring to is "Does this game have a narrative that plays out over the course of the game?", not "Does the game have backstory?" or "Can I read about completely disconnected and irrelevant anecdotes about dead people on terminals?" <cite>aurick79 posted...</cite> <quote>There is a confirmed story https://gamingbolt.com/fallout-76-will-be-as-story-focused-as-other-bethesda-games-report https://www.vg247.com/2018/06/13/673736</quote> That's not really confirmation. The first link is a leaked rumor from a source (Kotaku/Jason Schreier) that Bethesda themselves have said shouldn't be considered reliable, and the second is an article where they talk about game mechanics and don't make a single mention of overarching narrative. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 06/21/18 10:10:40 AM #88:	rekt --- up ahead there was a curve approaching she made no indications of slowing. <cite>helIy posted [p:903688018] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote>rekt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/21/18 12:48:38 PM #89:	Tell ya what Ill buy the game and play it but I promise not to have ANY fun --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903696091] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote>Tell ya what Ill buy the game and play it but I promise not to have ANY fun</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 06/21/18 3:14:41 PM #90:	Mead posted... Tell ya what Ill buy the game and play it but I promise not to have ANY fun That's all we ask --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:903704932] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Tell ya what Ill buy the game and play it but I promise not to have ANY fun</quote> That's all we ask</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 06/21/18 4:02:17 PM #91:	buy it for me too --- up ahead there was a curve approaching she made no indications of slowing. <cite>helIy posted [p:903707996] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote>buy it for me too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 06/21/18 4:05:52 PM #92:	that game looks bad, ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:903708257] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote>that game looks bad, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/21/18 6:20:21 PM #93:	helIy posted... buy it for me too You need to not die and heal your diseased balls before you can think about upcoming games bud --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:903716311] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>buy it for me too</quote> You need to not die and heal your diseased balls before you can think about upcoming games bud</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathMagnetic80 06/25/18 9:47:36 PM #94:	Mead posted... DeathMagnetic80 posted... I'm probably gonna pre-order it at GASP Gamestop and play with my friends ON A CONSOLE! OH, THE HUGE MANATEE! Just make sure youre eating Doritos and drinking coors light while you do it I draw the line at the Coors Light part lol. <cite>DeathMagnetic80 posted [p:903963778] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DeathMagnetic80 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm probably gonna pre-order it at GASP Gamestop and play with my friends ON A CONSOLE! OH, THE HUGE MANATEE!</quote> Just make sure youre eating Doritos and drinking coors light while you do it</quote> I draw the line at the Coors Light part lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 06/25/18 9:49:07 PM #95:	Mead posted... helIy posted... buy it for me too You need to not die and heal your diseased balls before you can think about upcoming games bud what about now --- hey look ma, i made it everything's coming up aces, aces <cite>helIy posted [p:903963852] in I preorder... [t:76719561]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>buy it for me too</quote> You need to not die and heal your diseased balls before you can think about upcoming games bud</quote> what about now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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