Board 8 > Chaos emeralds utterly ruin Sonic 1

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I'm trying to get the "real ending" to the original Sonic for the first time ever, and maintaining 50 rings is sucking all the enjoyment out of the game. Whoever decided that it would be a good idea to take a game predicated on speed and force a cautious, slow playthrough should be banished from the industry.

And that doesn't even get to the random crapshoot that are the bonus stages.

Fuck this game.
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A skilled player can go fast and not get hit.

If you have to go slow to maintain your rings, you're not good enough/familiar with the level design enough.
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pjbasis posted...

A skilled player can go fast and not get hit.

If you have to go slow to maintain your rings, you're not good enough/familiar with the level design enough.

That's the problem. You can't go back and repeat a level like DKC or SMW, so there's no way to memorize it without playing the entire game over and over. That's complete nonsense.
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Chaos Emeralds are always a chore. Sucks that they lock the true final battles behind them.
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You can always die and try again. Also if memory serves there are like... 18 levels and only 6 chaos emeralds? So you only need to succeed 6 times. Lots of margin for error.

I'm not a big fan of the game but complaining that a platformer rewards you for not getting hit is just strange to me. The chaos emeralds are how you prove you're good at the game; if you just want to get through it then the whole ring system makes you almost immortal outside of pits/water/being crushed/the final boss anyway.
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NeoElfboy posted...

You can always die and try again. Also if memory serves there are like... 18 levels and only 6 chaos emeralds? So you only need to succeed 6 times. Lots of margin for error.

1. If you fail in the bonus level, you do not get a second chance.
2. You can't get the emeralds in any act 3, so I believe you only have 11 chances. And to play the later levels for 50 rings is horribly un-fun.
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NeoElfboy posted...

I'm not a big fan of the game but complaining that a platformer rewards you for not getting hit is just strange to me. The chaos emeralds are how you prove you're good at the game

It's a Sonic game. They should have had the bonus rings open up if you complete a level in under a certain amount of time, since the entire draw of the experience is speed--not dodging enemies.

Alternatively, they could have gone the Sonic 3 route and reward exploration.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

You can't go back and repeat a level like DKC or SMW, so there's no way to memorize it without playing the entire game over and over.

You could just use the level select cheat.
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Old games don't like to let people just 100% them on the first try

More at 11
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StealThisSheen posted...

Old games don't like to let people just 100% them on the first try

More at 11

Again, the difficulty isn't my complaint. My complaint is that having to maintain 50 rings takes away the fun part of the game.
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No it doesn't

You're just not good
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Maintaining rings is already a big part of the game since it's both your health and your score.

Also Sonic 1's true ending is just, like, a splash screen. It's not worth doing if the process itself isn't fun for you.
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StealThisSheen posted...

No it doesn't

You're just not good

Nah. It's also not a great game to begin with, so this is just adding extra tedium.
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If you can't maintain rings and go fast at the same time then you're bad at the game and the issue you have is it's too difficult for you

Doesn't really have anything to do with how good or bad the game is when other people have no issue doing that
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yeah it sucks
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My biggest issue is calling the bonus stages random crapshoots

Theyre meant to be learned over replays!
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I agree with seph g here, one of my biggest pet peeves in video gaming is when the final boss requires a completely seperate skill from the one you spent the entire game honing. Sonic is notorious for this, and the dumb flippy minigames are a dumb wall to put in front of the final boss.

Also Sonic 1 isn't really a game designed for speed like 2/3/Mania are, so going slower than you might normally turns an already painfully slow game (by todays standards) into basically 7 Grand Dad
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Sonic's "hold right" gameplay has always sucked.

Not sure this post works here when it seems like the OP's main complaint is actually that he can't hold right and get away with it.
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Hey now

In the 3D games you hold up
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Sonic 1 was bad
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Sonic's "hold right" gameplay has always sucked.

this has always been a big misnomer

especially for Sonic 1, which plays a lot more like a traditional platformer than other games in the series do

Sonic 1 isn't a great game, but the bonus level requirements aren't a reason why. There's no real incentive to get them all in the first game anyway. There's nothing locked behind it.
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LeonhartFour posted...

especially for Sonic 1, which plays a lot more like a traditional platformer than other games in the series do

I know, and it suffers immensely from it. People only seem to remember the immaculate Green Hill Zone though.
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I wish Sega would forget it and stop putting it in all their games. Give us Starlight or even Marble Zone.
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Only 10 chances, because of weird coding in Scrap Brain 1.

sonic 1 bonus stages are the only ones that don't make me want to punch things
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What are you playing this on? The ps4 remaster? If so you can absalutely save before the bonus stage and if you mess up, then reload.

If your playing this on an actual Genesis... Why are you playing this game now on a Genesis?
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Nathalmighty1 posted...

What are you playing this on? The ps4 remaster? If so you can absalutely save before the bonus stage and if you mess up, then reload.

If your playing this on an actual Genesis... Why are you playing this game now on a Genesis?

Because I'm a gaming masochist
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pjbasis posted...

A skilled player can go fast and not get hit.

If you have to go slow to maintain your rings, you're not good enough/familiar with the level design enough.

/topic

git gud
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I've got a Genesis in my room
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I just came back into my box of old Genesis stuff and I think I need to hook it up now. Have to prop that power cord up against the wall or it'll shut off on it's own just like old times!
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