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Antifar 06/06/18 1:50:00 PM #1:	https://apnews.com/1d62290004b340feac5c359d59b86823 A group of East African employees is asking retail giant Amazon to improve working conditions at an eastern Minnesota warehouse. Employees at the Eagan facility made the request at a Monday news conference called by the Awood Center, which defends the rights of East African workers, Minnesota Public Radio reported . The employees allege they have experienced exhaustion, dehydration and injuries while working without air conditioning. Workers said the conditions are particularly difficult for Muslim workers who are celebrating Ramadan and observing a strict fast. Recently, I couldnt work because I needed water, Nimo Hirad, an order picker at the facility, said through an interpreter. I got so thirsty, I couldnt even swallow my saliva. I ended up breaking my fast and drinking water two days in a row. The center said it has received a few dozen complaints from workers in the past two months, including about work being done by individuals that used to be done in teams. Amazon spokesman Ernesto Apreza said the company provides a positive and accommodating workplace. He said the Eagan facility has air conditioned break areas, fans throughout the building and accommodates employees religious practices. The Eagan facility has a temporary prayer room and a permanent one is being constructed, he said. Christopher Warren, the facilitys general manager, declined to comment. MPR reports that its unclear if the complaints have also been filed with Amazon or the state. A Minnesota workplace safety agency has twice investigated the Eagan facility in the past, but it didnt cite Amazon in either case, according to James Honerman, a spokesman for the state Department of Labor and Industry. One complaint in 2016 was about employees experiencing symptoms of excessive heat, and a 2018 complaint was about braking systems on rolling ladders not functioning, Honerman said. The states Occupational Safety and Health Administration conducted inspections and did not issue any citations, he said. In recent years, reports have emerged about difficult working conditions at Amazons warehouses, including deaths at two Amazon warehouses in 2014. The company also came under fire in 2011 for extreme heat at its warehouses that caused heat-related injuries. Amazon said at the time that it took emergency actions during heat waves and subsequently installed cooling systems in its warehouses. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:902654797] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>https://apnews.com/1d62290004b340feac5c359d59b86823 <quote>A group of East African employees is asking retail giant Amazon to improve working conditions at an eastern Minnesota warehouse. Employees at the Eagan facility made the request at a Monday news conference called by the Awood Center, which defends the rights of East African workers, Minnesota Public Radio reported . The employees allege they have experienced exhaustion, dehydration and injuries while working without air conditioning. Workers said the conditions are particularly difficult for Muslim workers who are celebrating Ramadan and observing a strict fast. Recently, I couldnt work because I needed water, Nimo Hirad, an order picker at the facility, said through an interpreter. I got so thirsty, I couldnt even swallow my saliva. I ended up breaking my fast and drinking water two days in a row. The center said it has received a few dozen complaints from workers in the past two months, including about work being done by individuals that used to be done in teams. Amazon spokesman Ernesto Apreza said the company provides a positive and accommodating workplace. He said the Eagan facility has air conditioned break areas, fans throughout the building and accommodates employees religious practices. The Eagan facility has a temporary prayer room and a permanent one is being constructed, he said. Christopher Warren, the facilitys general manager, declined to comment. MPR reports that its unclear if the complaints have also been filed with Amazon or the state. A Minnesota workplace safety agency has twice investigated the Eagan facility in the past, but it didnt cite Amazon in either case, according to James Honerman, a spokesman for the state Department of Labor and Industry. One complaint in 2016 was about employees experiencing symptoms of excessive heat, and a 2018 complaint was about braking systems on rolling ladders not functioning, Honerman said. The states Occupational Safety and Health Administration conducted inspections and did not issue any citations, he said. In recent years, reports have emerged about difficult working conditions at Amazons warehouses, including deaths at two Amazon warehouses in 2014. The company also came under fire in 2011 for extreme heat at its warehouses that caused heat-related injuries. Amazon said at the time that it took emergency actions during heat waves and subsequently installed cooling systems in its warehouses.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darksaber310 06/06/18 1:53:38 PM #2:	Sounds pretty fair next. Even as shitty as Amazon is, if you're not drinking water due to a fast but get to be accommodated with less work, that's the definition of unfair to the coworkers who have to pick up your slack. You're warehouse work, not retail. --- Once again snatching defeat, From the jaws of victory. <cite>Darksaber310 posted [p:902655000] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>Sounds pretty fair next. Even as shitty as Amazon is, if you're not drinking water due to a fast but get to be accommodated with less work, that's the definition of unfair to the coworkers who have to pick up your slack. You're warehouse work, not retail.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 06/06/18 1:54:08 PM #3:	The employees allege they have experienced exhaustion, dehydration and injuries while working without air conditioning. Workers said the conditions are particularly difficult for Muslim workers who are celebrating Ramadan and observing a strict fast. Recently, I couldnt work because I needed water, Nimo Hirad, an order picker at the facility, said through an interpreter. I got so thirsty, I couldnt even swallow my saliva. I ended up breaking my fast and drinking water two days in a row. Oh no! you can't throw packages without eating a proper diet and staying hydrated, all the while dressing "modestly"? brb ordering a tiny violin on amazon. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:902655019] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>The employees allege they have experienced exhaustion, dehydration and injuries while working without air conditioning. Workers said the conditions are particularly difficult for Muslim workers who are celebrating Ramadan and observing a strict fast. Recently, I couldnt work because I needed water, Nimo Hirad, an order picker at the facility, said through an interpreter. I got so thirsty, I couldnt even swallow my saliva. I ended up breaking my fast and drinking water two days in a row. Oh no! you can't throw packages without eating a proper diet and staying hydrated, all the while dressing "modestly"? brb ordering a tiny violin on amazon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 06/06/18 1:55:30 PM #4:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... The employees allege they have experienced exhaustion, dehydration and injuries while working without air conditioning. Workers said the conditions are particularly difficult for Muslim workers who are celebrating Ramadan and observing a strict fast. Recently, I couldnt work because I needed water, Nimo Hirad, an order picker at the facility, said through an interpreter. I got so thirsty, I couldnt even swallow my saliva. I ended up breaking my fast and drinking water two days in a row. Oh no! you can't throw packages without eating a proper diet and staying hydrated, all the while dressing "modestly"? brb ordering a tiny violin on amazon. yeah they lost me here broken brakes on a rolling ladder is fucked though, they should've led with that, not "guy gets dehydrated because he voluntarily doesn't want to drink water" --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (3-4): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:902655109] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>The employees allege they have experienced exhaustion, dehydration and injuries while working without air conditioning. Workers said the conditions are particularly difficult for Muslim workers who are celebrating Ramadan and observing a strict fast. Recently, I couldnt work because I needed water, Nimo Hirad, an order picker at the facility, said through an interpreter. I got so thirsty, I couldnt even swallow my saliva. I ended up breaking my fast and drinking water two days in a row. Oh no! you can't throw packages without eating a proper diet and staying hydrated, all the while dressing "modestly"? brb ordering a tiny violin on amazon.</quote> yeah they lost me here broken brakes on a rolling ladder is fucked though, they should've led with that, not "guy gets dehydrated because he voluntarily doesn't want to drink water"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CharlesBronson 06/06/18 1:55:54 PM #5:	they signed up for hard labor what did they expect? <cite>CharlesBronson posted [p:902655141] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>they signed up for hard labor what did they expect?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xBloodBrotherx 06/06/18 1:56:42 PM #6:	I think the way to fix this is to deregulate. Obviously it's regulations keeping Amazon from taking care of their employees properly with all their money. If they've shown anything it's that if we got rid of those damn nonspecific regulations that the free market would fix this. --- The above post is literally and objectively right. <cite>xBloodBrotherx posted [p:902655179] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>I think the way to fix this is to deregulate. Obviously it's regulations keeping Amazon from taking care of their employees properly with all their money. If they've shown anything it's that if we got rid of those damn nonspecific regulations that the free market would fix this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 06/06/18 1:56:59 PM #7:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... The employees allege they have experienced exhaustion, dehydration and injuries while working without air conditioning. Workers said the conditions are particularly difficult for Muslim workers who are celebrating Ramadan and observing a strict fast. Recently, I couldnt work because I needed water, Nimo Hirad, an order picker at the facility, said through an interpreter. I got so thirsty, I couldnt even swallow my saliva. I ended up breaking my fast and drinking water two days in a row. Oh no! you can't throw packages without eating a proper diet and staying hydrated, all the while dressing "modestly"? brb ordering a tiny violin on amazon. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:902655189] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>The employees allege they have experienced exhaustion, dehydration and injuries while working without air conditioning. Workers said the conditions are particularly difficult for Muslim workers who are celebrating Ramadan and observing a strict fast. Recently, I couldnt work because I needed water, Nimo Hirad, an order picker at the facility, said through an interpreter. I got so thirsty, I couldnt even swallow my saliva. I ended up breaking my fast and drinking water two days in a row. Oh no! you can't throw packages without eating a proper diet and staying hydrated, all the while dressing "modestly"? brb ordering a tiny violin on amazon.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/06/18 2:00:52 PM #8:	All of a sudden religious freedom doesn't matter to conservatives? Such a mystery. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:902655445] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>All of a sudden religious freedom doesn't matter to conservatives? Such a mystery.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyG663513 06/06/18 2:14:51 PM #9:	There are certainly some valid complaints in there. I've been working in a warehouse for 6 years now so I'm well aware it can get very hot and there's risk of injuries. It's just annoying when their religion (Islam) is so inconvenient to everyone else around them. I'd be incredibly annoyed to be their coworker. You are expected to eat somewhat decent and stay hydrated. Kind of absurd to expect to be accommodated for your religion not allowing you to do so. They also have a temporary praying area with a permanent one under construction. That is very accommodating. Not sure if they allow a burqa in the workplace. My workplace wouldn't, because it's considered way too loose and can get caught up in the equipment. I've seen a couple hijabs at work though. Complaining about no A/C in a warehouse is absurd, but there should be plenty of fans and available water. I don't doubt their complaints about injuries though. That stuff can be unsafe and management turns a blind eye to all sorts of stuff. Pat of it is employees need to speak up, but if that doesn't work then it's all on management. I have the benefit of being in a union and being on a safety committee at my work so I know I can outright refuse to work under unsafe conditions. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:902656267] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>There are certainly some valid complaints in there. I've been working in a warehouse for 6 years now so I'm well aware it can get very hot and there's risk of injuries. It's just annoying when their religion (Islam) is so inconvenient to everyone else around them. I'd be incredibly annoyed to be their coworker. You are expected to eat somewhat decent and stay hydrated. Kind of absurd to expect to be accommodated for your religion not allowing you to do so. They also have a temporary praying area with a permanent one under construction. That is very accommodating. Not sure if they allow a burqa in the workplace. My workplace wouldn't, because it's considered way too loose and can get caught up in the equipment. I've seen a couple hijabs at work though. Complaining about no A/C in a warehouse is absurd, but there should be plenty of fans and available water. I don't doubt their complaints about injuries though. That stuff can be unsafe and management turns a blind eye to all sorts of stuff. Pat of it is employees need to speak up, but if that doesn't work then it's all on management. I have the benefit of being in a union and being on a safety committee at my work so I know I can outright refuse to work under unsafe conditions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyG663513 06/06/18 2:18:34 PM #10:	Webmaster4531 posted... All of a sudden religious freedom doesn't matter to conservatives? Such a mystery. Yeah this. I mean, I personally think religious freedom is stupid in both the Muslim and Christian scenarios, but at least I'm consistent. Someone shouldn't expect their workplace to accommodate their religion. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:902656507] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>All of a sudden religious freedom doesn't matter to conservatives? Such a mystery.</quote> Yeah this. I mean, I personally think religious freedom is stupid in both the Muslim and Christian scenarios, but at least I'm consistent. Someone shouldn't expect their workplace to accommodate their religion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 06/06/18 2:19:20 PM #11:	CharlesBronson posted... they signed up for hard labor what did they expect? hard labor does not excuse these conditions. stop trying to justify this bull shit... --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:902656553] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>CharlesBronson posted...</cite> <quote>they signed up for hard labor what did they expect?</quote> hard labor does not excuse these conditions. stop trying to justify this bull shit...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/06/18 2:20:04 PM #12:	I think being able to work without A/C could be considered a BFOQ of warehouse work and therefore even if religious discrimination were invoked I do not know if they would win on that basis --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:902656590] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>I think being able to work without A/C could be considered a BFOQ of warehouse work and therefore even if religious discrimination were invoked I do not know if they would win on that basis</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 06/06/18 2:21:24 PM #14:	TheVipaGTS posted... CharlesBronson posted... they signed up for hard labor what did they expect? hard labor does not excuse these conditions. stop trying to justify this bull shit... what bullshit, though? I read that article and the MPR* one, too. There were vague accusations of injuries, but the only specific ones were someone complaining about kidney pain (drink some water) and dropping something on their foot (isn't that literally an accepted risk of work if you are a manual laborer?) --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:902656666] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CharlesBronson posted...</cite> <quote>they signed up for hard labor what did they expect?</quote> hard labor does not excuse these conditions. stop trying to justify this bull shit...</quote> what bullshit, though? I read that article and the MPR* one, too. There were vague accusations of injuries, but the only specific ones were someone complaining about kidney pain (drink some water) and dropping something on their foot (isn't that literally an accepted risk of work if you are a manual laborer?)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
John_Galt 06/06/18 2:25:42 PM #15:	TheVipaGTS posted... CharlesBronson posted... they signed up for hard labor what did they expect? hard labor does not excuse these conditions. stop trying to justify this bull shit... What bullshit? --- Who is John Galt? <cite>John_Galt posted [p:902656896] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CharlesBronson posted...</cite> <quote>they signed up for hard labor what did they expect?</quote> hard labor does not excuse these conditions. stop trying to justify this bull shit...</quote> What bullshit?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edededdy 06/06/18 2:27:04 PM #16:	when you fast from sunrise to sunset what the fuck do you fucking expect? how can they fucking accommodate something like that Amazon is 0% in the wrong here --- Voted best user on CE 2017 hahahahah lmfao <cite>edededdy posted [p:902656966] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>when you fast from sunrise to sunset what the fuck do you fucking expect? how can they fucking accommodate something like that Amazon is 0% in the wrong here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 06/06/18 2:29:04 PM #17:	You're allowed to break fast on Ramadan if you need to. I don't understand why people are so hard on themselves because of it. Like, if you have to do manual labor for hours on end, can you not schedule something to work nights so that you can drink as much as you want? --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:902657081] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>You're allowed to break fast on Ramadan if you need to. I don't understand why people are so hard on themselves because of it. Like, if you have to do manual labor for hours on end, can you not schedule something to work nights so that you can drink as much as you want?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 06/06/18 2:29:39 PM #18:	I didn't know they couldn't drink water while fasting. I thought water was an exception. Pretty sure I used to box with a Muslim dude and during Ramadan he'd fast during our grueling workouts but he'd still take drinks of water throughout the exercise. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:902657120] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>I didn't know they couldn't drink water while fasting. I thought water was an exception. Pretty sure I used to box with a Muslim dude and during Ramadan he'd fast during our grueling workouts but he'd still take drinks of water throughout the exercise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/06/18 2:30:46 PM #19:	right the MPR article even specifically states that the workers made their complaints known prior to Ramadan because they knew Ramadan would make their work hard I do think we need to protect religious freedom in this country but like, yeah, businesses should obviously not be compelled to do something in response to every single religious belief. Reasonable accommodations are one thing, but I dunno that 1) having more people work the same job in teams and/or 2) putting A/C in the warehouse count as reasonable Tyranthraxus posted... Like, if you have to do manual labor for hours on end, can you not schedule something to work nights so that you can drink as much as you want? even setting shifts like this seems to me to be a decent way to accommodate although I suppose you run into issues with other employees schedules (and you might not have night shifts etc) --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:902657195] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>right the MPR article even specifically states that the workers made their complaints known prior to Ramadan because they knew Ramadan would make their work hard I do think we need to protect religious freedom in this country but like, yeah, businesses should obviously not be compelled to do something in response to every single religious belief. Reasonable accommodations are one thing, but I dunno that 1) having more people work the same job in teams and/or 2) putting A/C in the warehouse count as reasonable <cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>Like, if you have to do manual labor for hours on end, can you not schedule something to work nights so that you can drink as much as you want?</quote> even setting shifts like this seems to me to be a decent way to accommodate although I suppose you run into issues with other employees schedules (and you might not have night shifts etc)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IAmBearGrylls 06/06/18 2:30:51 PM #20:	Now, I'm all for religious freedom of expression, but what kinda f*ing moron fasts from drinking water? --- Gettin' all up in ya grillz! <cite>IAmBearGrylls posted [p:902657199] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>Now, I'm all for religious freedom of expression, but what kinda f*ing moron fasts from drinking water?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 06/06/18 2:32:06 PM #21:	John_Galt posted... What bullshit? Having to lift stuff. Not being in a climate controlled room. Working for a white male CEO. Living in a country that isn't 100% capitulating to their religious laws. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:902657280] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>John_Galt posted...</cite> <quote>What bullshit?</quote> Having to lift stuff. Not being in a climate controlled room. Working for a white male CEO. Living in a country that isn't 100% capitulating to their religious laws.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/06/18 2:34:54 PM #22:	Webmaster4531 posted... All of a sudden religious freedom doesn't matter to conservatives? Such a mystery. Corporate Policy / Demands of Amazons Schedule > Any Religious Freedom. Don't meet the Company Quota, Complain, get FIRED!! --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:902657455] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>All of a sudden religious freedom doesn't matter to conservatives? Such a mystery.</quote>Corporate Policy / Demands of Amazons Schedule > Any Religious Freedom. Don't meet the Company Quota, Complain, get FIRED!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 06/06/18 2:35:22 PM #23:	>people defending amazon warehouses despite the numerous horror stories about them only in conservatroll neckbeard land folks --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:902657486] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>>people defending amazon warehouses despite the numerous horror stories about them only in conservatroll neckbeard land folks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 06/06/18 2:35:37 PM #24:	i'm all for religious freedom and i'm no fan of the way Amazon treats their workers, but the fasting stuff is really not Amazon's problem and I don't really support changing schedules because of religion --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:902657507] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>i'm all for religious freedom and i'm no fan of the way Amazon treats their workers, but the fasting stuff is really not Amazon's problem and I don't really support changing schedules because of religion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 06/06/18 2:36:41 PM #25:	If they get sick or hurt because they refuse to eat or drink while doing physical labor in a hot environment, how is that Amazon's fault? Things like the faulty ladders are issues that should definitely be addressed, but "it's hot and I won't drink water" isn't on Amazon. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:902657571] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>If they get sick or hurt because they refuse to eat or drink while doing physical labor in a hot environment, how is that Amazon's fault? Things like the faulty ladders are issues that should definitely be addressed, but "it's hot and I won't drink water" isn't on Amazon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edededdy 06/06/18 2:36:49 PM #26:	prince_leo posted... i'm all for religious freedom and i'm no fan of the way Amazon treats their workers, but the fasting stuff is really not Amazon's problem and I don't really support changing schedules because of religion my religion dictates I only work 1 minute a week for a full 40 hour paycheck. where are my accommodations --- Voted best user on CE 2017 hahahahah lmfao <cite>edededdy posted [p:902657580] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote>i'm all for religious freedom and i'm no fan of the way Amazon treats their workers, but the fasting stuff is really not Amazon's problem and I don't really support changing schedules because of religion</quote> my religion dictates I only work 1 minute a week for a full 40 hour paycheck. where are my accommodations</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 06/06/18 2:38:40 PM #27:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... John_Galt posted... What bullshit? Having to lift stuff. Not being in a climate controlled room. Working for a white male CEO. Living in a country that isn't 100% capitulating to their religious laws. Have you ever been in a warehouse? Almost none are climate controlled. Unless it is for stuff that needs to be kept cold, no warehouse is going to have AC. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:902657702] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>John_Galt posted...</cite> <quote>What bullshit?</quote> Having to lift stuff. Not being in a climate controlled room. Working for a white male CEO. Living in a country that isn't 100% capitulating to their religious laws.</quote> Have you ever been in a warehouse? Almost none are climate controlled. Unless it is for stuff that needs to be kept cold, no warehouse is going to have AC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/06/18 2:38:53 PM #28:	metralo posted... >people defending amazon warehouses despite the numerous horror stories about them only in conservatroll neckbeard land folks I'm not sure if I just never noticed before because I was young and ignorant, or if like social media is partially to blame, but I have noticed people of all political stripes seem to not actually care about the arguments or principles at play in any particular discussion, but more about who they can line up behind and argue on behalf of or against It is pretty sad imo --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:902657714] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote>>people defending amazon warehouses despite the numerous horror stories about them only in conservatroll neckbeard land folks</quote> I'm not sure if I just never noticed before because I was young and ignorant, or if like social media is partially to blame, but I have noticed people of all political stripes seem to not actually care about the arguments or principles at play in any particular discussion, but more about who they can line up behind and argue on behalf of or against It is pretty sad imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/06/18 2:39:35 PM #29:	edededdy posted... my religion dictates I only work 1 minute a week for a full 40 hour paycheck. where are my accommodations And Amazon shows you the unemployment line. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:902657748] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>edededdy posted...</cite> <quote>my religion dictates I only work 1 minute a week for a full 40 hour paycheck. where are my accommodations</quote>And Amazon shows you the unemployment line.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edededdy 06/06/18 2:40:35 PM #30:	KamenRiderBlade posted... edededdy posted... my religion dictates I only work 1 minute a week for a full 40 hour paycheck. where are my accommodations And Amazon shows you the unemployment line. this. its not amazons fucking fault these workers wont fucking drink water holy shit. --- Voted best user on CE 2017 hahahahah lmfao <cite>edededdy posted [p:902657823] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>edededdy posted...</cite> <quote>my religion dictates I only work 1 minute a week for a full 40 hour paycheck. where are my accommodations</quote>And Amazon shows you the unemployment line.</quote> this. its not amazons fucking fault these workers wont fucking drink water holy shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 06/06/18 2:45:24 PM #31:	Spooking posted... Kazi1212 posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... The employees allege they have experienced exhaustion, dehydration and injuries while working without air conditioning. Workers said the conditions are particularly difficult for Muslim workers who are celebrating Ramadan and observing a strict fast. Recently, I couldnt work because I needed water, Nimo Hirad, an order picker at the facility, said through an interpreter. I got so thirsty, I couldnt even swallow my saliva. I ended up breaking my fast and drinking water two days in a row. Oh no! you can't throw packages without eating a proper diet and staying hydrated, all the while dressing "modestly"? brb ordering a tiny violin on amazon. --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. <cite>eggcorn posted [p:902658112] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>The employees allege they have experienced exhaustion, dehydration and injuries while working without air conditioning. Workers said the conditions are particularly difficult for Muslim workers who are celebrating Ramadan and observing a strict fast. Recently, I couldnt work because I needed water, Nimo Hirad, an order picker at the facility, said through an interpreter. I got so thirsty, I couldnt even swallow my saliva. I ended up breaking my fast and drinking water two days in a row. Oh no! you can't throw packages without eating a proper diet and staying hydrated, all the while dressing "modestly"? brb ordering a tiny violin on amazon.</quote></quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/06/18 2:56:11 PM #32:	KamenRiderBlade posted... Webmaster4531 posted... All of a sudden religious freedom doesn't matter to conservatives? Such a mystery. Corporate Policy / Demands of Amazons Schedule > Any Religious Freedom. Don't meet the Company Quota, Complain, get FIRED!! That's so convenient. Businesses are always right, fuck employees and consumers. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:902658728] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>All of a sudden religious freedom doesn't matter to conservatives? Such a mystery.</quote>Corporate Policy / Demands of Amazons Schedule > Any Religious Freedom. Don't meet the Company Quota, Complain, get FIRED!!</quote> That's so convenient. Businesses are always right, fuck employees and consumers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/06/18 2:58:48 PM #33:	Webmaster4531 posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Webmaster4531 posted... All of a sudden religious freedom doesn't matter to conservatives? Such a mystery. Corporate Policy / Demands of Amazons Schedule > Any Religious Freedom. Don't meet the Company Quota, Complain, get FIRED!! That's so convenient. Businesses are always right, fuck employees and consumers. Guess how Amazon got so big? Off the backs of it's Warehouse labor. They don't Give 2 effs about them. They're all contractual cogs in the machine Don't like it, they'll be replaced in a heart beat. If you bought that Amazon Package from Amazon itself, you're participating in their literal Slave Labor. If you care about it, you'll start a boycott and gather as many people to find another vendor who won't Slave Labor their employees. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:902658870] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>All of a sudden religious freedom doesn't matter to conservatives? Such a mystery.</quote>Corporate Policy / Demands of Amazons Schedule > Any Religious Freedom. Don't meet the Company Quota, Complain, get FIRED!!</quote> That's so convenient. Businesses are always right, fuck employees and consumers.</quote>Guess how Amazon got so big? Off the backs of it's Warehouse labor. They don't Give 2 effs about them. They're all contractual cogs in the machine Don't like it, they'll be replaced in a heart beat. If you bought that Amazon Package from Amazon itself, you're participating in their literal Slave Labor. If you care about it, you'll start a boycott and gather as many people to find another vendor who won't Slave Labor their employees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 06/06/18 3:02:08 PM #34:	Balrog0 posted... metralo posted... >people defending amazon warehouses despite the numerous horror stories about them only in conservatroll neckbeard land folks I'm not sure if I just never noticed before because I was young and ignorant, or if like social media is partially to blame, but I have noticed people of all political stripes seem to not actually care about the arguments or principles at play in any particular discussion, but more about who they can line up behind and argue on behalf of or against It is pretty sad imo This is very true. I've become somewhat of a local celebrity in my town cause of a political podcast I do that got picked up and shared by our city government. Despite being a highly conservative town, they tend to agree with a lot of my liberal views on things. I've met some of my viewers, and they've basically said that they agree with certain ideas that they otherwise wouldn't because they like the way I present them. It's just another way of saying that my charisma pretty much sells it to them, so they are more likely to give a different view a try. They've actually become less anti-government over the last few months when they see some of the benefits of programs that are traditionally left-leaning in nature. People tend to back the person (or group) supporting an issue, not the issue itself. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:902659069] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote>>people defending amazon warehouses despite the numerous horror stories about them only in conservatroll neckbeard land folks</quote> I'm not sure if I just never noticed before because I was young and ignorant, or if like social media is partially to blame, but I have noticed people of all political stripes seem to not actually care about the arguments or principles at play in any particular discussion, but more about who they can line up behind and argue on behalf of or against It is pretty sad imo</quote> This is very true. I've become somewhat of a local celebrity in my town cause of a political podcast I do that got picked up and shared by our city government. Despite being a highly conservative town, they tend to agree with a lot of my liberal views on things. I've met some of my viewers, and they've basically said that they agree with certain ideas that they otherwise wouldn't because they like the way I present them. It's just another way of saying that my charisma pretty much sells it to them, so they are more likely to give a different view a try. They've actually become less anti-government over the last few months when they see some of the benefits of programs that are traditionally left-leaning in nature. People tend to back the person (or group) supporting an issue, not the issue itself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 06/06/18 3:02:43 PM #35:	KamenRiderBlade posted... Webmaster4531 posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Webmaster4531 posted... All of a sudden religious freedom doesn't matter to conservatives? Such a mystery. Corporate Policy / Demands of Amazons Schedule > Any Religious Freedom. Don't meet the Company Quota, Complain, get FIRED!! That's so convenient. Businesses are always right, fuck employees and consumers. Guess how Amazon got so big? Off the backs of it's Warehouse labor. They don't Give 2 effs about them. They're all contractual cogs in the machine Don't like it, they'll be replaced in a heart beat. If you bought that Amazon Package from Amazon itself, you're participating in their literal Slave Labor. If you care about it, you'll start a boycott and gather as many people to find another vendor who won't Slave Labor their employees. Is there a single company that doesn't have warehouse laborers? Or at least deals with warehouse laborers. Unless it is a fully digital company. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:902659108] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>All of a sudden religious freedom doesn't matter to conservatives? Such a mystery.</quote>Corporate Policy / Demands of Amazons Schedule > Any Religious Freedom. Don't meet the Company Quota, Complain, get FIRED!!</quote> That's so convenient. Businesses are always right, fuck employees and consumers.</quote>Guess how Amazon got so big? Off the backs of it's Warehouse labor. They don't Give 2 effs about them. They're all contractual cogs in the machine Don't like it, they'll be replaced in a heart beat. If you bought that Amazon Package from Amazon itself, you're participating in their literal Slave Labor. If you care about it, you'll start a boycott and gather as many people to find another vendor who won't Slave Labor their employees.</quote> Is there a single company that doesn't have warehouse laborers? Or at least deals with warehouse laborers. Unless it is a fully digital company.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Naysaspace 06/06/18 3:03:33 PM #36:	Why outsource to China when you can run chinese-esque sweatshops in the USA? <cite>Naysaspace posted [p:902659166] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>Why outsource to China when you can run chinese-esque sweatshops in the USA?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pillowpantz 06/06/18 3:05:08 PM #37:	But-but Walmart! But-but Drumpf! --- https://youtu.be/o8sXa3IdrOU https://youtu.be/TO45esybdYg https://youtu.be/hcrjb5dzhvw http://archive.is/Zp6HT <cite>Pillowpantz posted [p:902659263] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>But-but Walmart! But-but Drumpf!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/06/18 3:05:31 PM #38:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... brb ordering a tiny violin on amazon. Huh. Amazon actually sells those. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079G6Y2B7 <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:902659285] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>brb ordering a tiny violin on amazon.</quote> Huh. Amazon actually sells those. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079G6Y2B7</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/06/18 3:05:34 PM #39:	LightHawKnight posted... Is there a single company that doesn't have warehouse laborers? No, but not everybody is so harsh as Amazon. Amazon is especially strict. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:902659289] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>Is there a single company that doesn't have warehouse laborers?</quote>No, but not everybody is so harsh as Amazon. Amazon is especially strict.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/06/18 3:05:57 PM #40:	KamenRiderBlade posted... If you bought that Amazon Package from Amazon itself, you're participating in their literal Slave Labor. If you care about it, you'll start a boycott and gather as many people to find another vendor who won't Slave Labor their employees. It's not slave labor but I would say a sweat shop. I actually agree that Amazon isn't that wrong. It's just hypocritical that only businesses can benefit from religious freedom. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:902659315] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote>If you bought that Amazon Package from Amazon itself, you're participating in their literal Slave Labor. If you care about it, you'll start a boycott and gather as many people to find another vendor who won't Slave Labor their employees.</quote> It's not slave labor but I would say a sweat shop. I actually agree that Amazon isn't that wrong. It's just hypocritical that only businesses can benefit from religious freedom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 06/06/18 3:06:00 PM #41:	KamenRiderBlade posted... Guess how Amazon got so big? Off the backs of it's Warehouse labor. Good and innovative ideas, advantageous deal making, and efficient business practices. I don't want to suck their dick too much but they're not the only ones with fucking warehouses. Their success is the product of more than just manual labor. I mean, the company is fucking destroying brick and mortars, that's not a competitor, that's a god damn ancient business model they're beating. Also fuck em they're moving to robots anyways. They don't even have jobs soon enough. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:902659318] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote>Guess how Amazon got so big? Off the backs of it's Warehouse labor.</quote> Good and innovative ideas, advantageous deal making, and efficient business practices. I don't want to suck their dick too much but they're not the only ones with fucking warehouses. Their success is the product of more than just manual labor. I mean, the company is fucking destroying brick and mortars, that's not a competitor, that's a god damn ancient business model they're beating. Also fuck em they're moving to robots anyways. They don't even have jobs soon enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 06/06/18 3:07:52 PM #42:	KamenRiderBlade posted... LightHawKnight posted... Is there a single company that doesn't have warehouse laborers? No, but not everybody is so harsh as Amazon. Amazon is especially strict. Eh, my mom worked at a warehouse before and the conditions were basically the same as what people are saying about Amazon. It is a physically demanding job with very little downtime and lots of danger. Even with all the safety concerns dealt with, accidents still happen. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:902659419] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>Is there a single company that doesn't have warehouse laborers?</quote>No, but not everybody is so harsh as Amazon. Amazon is especially strict.</quote> Eh, my mom worked at a warehouse before and the conditions were basically the same as what people are saying about Amazon. It is a physically demanding job with very little downtime and lots of danger. Even with all the safety concerns dealt with, accidents still happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 06/06/18 3:08:11 PM #43:	KamenRiderBlade posted... LightHawKnight posted... Is there a single company that doesn't have warehouse laborers? No, but not everybody is so harsh as Amazon. Amazon is especially strict. Most of them don't have AC --- Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:902659434] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>Is there a single company that doesn't have warehouse laborers?</quote>No, but not everybody is so harsh as Amazon. Amazon is especially strict.</quote> Most of them don't have AC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/06/18 3:09:26 PM #44:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Good and innovative ideas, advantageous deal making, and efficient business practices. I don't want to suck their dick too much but they're not the only ones with fucking warehouses. Their success is the product of more than just manual labor. I mean, the company is fucking destroying brick and mortars, that's not a competitor, that's a god damn ancient business model they're beating. Also fuck em they're moving to robots anyways. They don't even have jobs soon enough. You mean the Online Multi-Vendor SuperStore model that is Amazon? They're not the only ones doing it, but they're the most successful ones doing it in the Western World. China has Alibaba for that. So just a light licking of Amazon's balls and a light kiss on the tip? It's destroying Brick & Mortars because there's no consistent Internet Sales Tax that would balance things out to some degree. There's also the lack of Brick & Mortar Store costs. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:902659511] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Good and innovative ideas, advantageous deal making, and efficient business practices. I don't want to suck their dick too much but they're not the only ones with fucking warehouses. Their success is the product of more than just manual labor. I mean, the company is fucking destroying brick and mortars, that's not a competitor, that's a god damn ancient business model they're beating. Also fuck em they're moving to robots anyways. They don't even have jobs soon enough.</quote>You mean the Online Multi-Vendor SuperStore model that is Amazon? They're not the only ones doing it, but they're the most successful ones doing it in the Western World. China has Alibaba for that. So just a light licking of Amazon's balls and a light kiss on the tip? It's destroying Brick & Mortars because there's no consistent Internet Sales Tax that would balance things out to some degree. There's also the lack of Brick & Mortar Store costs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 06/06/18 3:09:41 PM #45:	These people could not last in construction when there is not an option for air conditioning and you just have to grin and bear it. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:902659529] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>These people could not last in construction when there is not an option for air conditioning and you just have to grin and bear it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 06/06/18 3:10:35 PM #46:	voldothegr8 posted... Most of them don't have AC I'm not talking about the AC part, I know that. I used to work in one too back in the day. But the other parts, the strict schedule, the ### of boxes / packages you need to meet quota, the trackers to see if your hands are idle or not efficient enough, etc. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:902659578] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>Most of them don't have AC</quote>I'm not talking about the AC part, I know that. I used to work in one too back in the day. But the other parts, the strict schedule, the ### of boxes / packages you need to meet quota, the trackers to see if your hands are idle or not efficient enough, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 06/06/18 3:13:23 PM #47:	KamenRiderBlade posted... voldothegr8 posted... Most of them don't have AC I'm not talking about the AC part, I know that. I used to work in one too back in the day. But the other parts, the strict schedule, the ### of boxes / packages you need to meet quota, the trackers to see if your hands are idle or not efficient enough, etc. Last part wasn't there as it was a long time ago, but the schedule was super strict and you had quota you had to hit. People got laid off all the time. Though my mom has been promoted and has been sitting in an room with A/C working on more important matters for the company. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:902659724] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>Most of them don't have AC</quote>I'm not talking about the AC part, I know that. I used to work in one too back in the day. But the other parts, the strict schedule, the ### of boxes / packages you need to meet quota, the trackers to see if your hands are idle or not efficient enough, etc.</quote> Last part wasn't there as it was a long time ago, but the schedule was super strict and you had quota you had to hit. People got laid off all the time. Though my mom has been promoted and has been sitting in an room with A/C working on more important matters for the company.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dampproof 06/06/18 3:28:31 PM #48:	It isn't practical to AC up a factory. Lugging over 45lbs in the heat isnt fun, but holy crap keep hydrated. Who thought fasting and heavy labor mixed? AC wont fix that. You're going get super exhausted without food very quickly. --- "Cyberspace is - or can be - a good, friendly and egalitarian place to meet." - Douglas Adams <cite>Dampproof posted [p:902660563] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote>It isn't practical to AC up a factory. Lugging over 45lbs in the heat isnt fun, but holy crap keep hydrated. Who thought fasting and heavy labor mixed? AC wont fix that. You're going get super exhausted without food very quickly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CarlGrimes 06/06/18 3:36:05 PM #50:	Webmaster4531 posted... All of a sudden religious freedom doesn't matter to conservatives? Such a mystery. There is a line when it to the workplace. If you choose to fast it is on you, not your place of employment. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:902660990] in Minnesota ... [t:76680189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>All of a sudden religious freedom doesn't matter to conservatives? Such a mystery.</quote> There is a line when it to the workplace. If you choose to fast it is on you, not your place of employment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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