o Kid's Dreams are CRUSHED to play PRO MLB as he's exposed as a PEDOPHILE!

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Full Throttle 06/06/18 1:17:38 AM #1:	Do you think this kid deserves another chance to play Pro Baseball? - Results (11 votes) Yes, everyone deserves a chance to redeem themselves 45.45% (5 votes) 5 I would have said Yes but since he's denying it and not taking responsibility for it, i'm a No now. 0% (0 votes) 0 Never 54.55% (6 votes) 6 22 y/o Luke Heimlich, the convicted PEDOPHILE who was the Star Pitcher at his Oregon State University team just had his dream crushed as he was NOT chosen during the first day of MLB draft, a year after it was revealed he plead guilty to molesting his neice!! The shocking revelation made headlines across the country just before he was considered the country's best pitcher and he was SUPPOSED to be drafted based on the scouts reactions to his amazing "pitches" for the university.. But it came to an end as he was not chosen to play in the Major Leagues after last summer when a journalist blew the whistle on his past and posted the shocking story where he was convicted of molesting his older brother's 6 y/o daughter when he was 15.. He broke his silence after initially stating he had nothing to say to tell the NYT that "i always denied anything ever happened. Even after i plead guilty, which was a decision me and my parents thought was the best option to move forward as a family. And after that, even when i was going through counseling and treatment, i maintained my innocence the whole time" The mother however said "There is no way he DIDN'T DO IT" after describing her daughter's very specific allegation and said that her daughter, who was 6 at the time said that Luke had pulled down her underwear and touched her both inside and outside of the spot she uses to go to the bathroom!! She told him to stop but he wouldn't and that it "hurt" when he kept touching her. Luke was charged with 2 counts of molestation in 2009 to 2011 as it started when she was FOUR He was offered a plea deal in which he plead guilty in return one charge was dropped but was placed as a level one sex offender for 5 years Luke claimed he plead guilty only to have this case go away "quicker" and that a lower profile trial would make it easier on his family who said trials aren't fun and hoped that this case was on the down low and wouldn't go public... Unfortunately for him, he forgot to update his location for the sex offender registry and a Journalist got wind of it and EXPOSED HIM!! Critics were calling for his head and to be kicked off the team and the victim's mother said he should NEVER be able to play again as she said her daughter's case will only go away when he is out of the spotlight. His coach said that Luke was a fine young man and deserves another chance and he BELIEVES HIM when he says he didn't do it. Luke is calling his now 13 y/o niece a LIAR now and he is no longer speaking to his brother Luke still has another chance to be drafted but given his history, it remains to be seen if any MLB team will take him in since this story broke Do you think this kid deserves another chance to be on a pro MLB team?. Luke - Dreams Crushed http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/05/16/4CF1080E00000578-0-image-a-19_1528214370108.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/08/04/4BF62C4000000578-5702199-image-a-15_1525751938029.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/05/16/4CDCAFF300000578-0-image-a-12_1528213042630.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/05/16/4CF0DB4C00000578-0-image-a-6_1528212941053.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/05/16/4CF0DB2100000578-0-image-a-17_1528213222226.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/05/16/4CF0DB2C00000578-0-image-a-16_1528213222139.jpg --- call me mrduckbear, sweater monkeys. A GFAQS User Steps On A Bug, I'll Stop Posting for 24 HOURS. THIS ACCOUNT ONLY!! I'm an Asian Liberal. RESIST The Alt-Right <cite>Full Throttle posted [p:902630348] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote> Do you think this kid deserves another chance to play Pro Baseball? - Results (11 votes) Yes, everyone deserves a chance to redeem themselves 45.45% (5 votes) 5 I would have said Yes but since he's denying it and not taking responsibility for it, i'm a No now. 0% (0 votes) 0 Never 54.55% (6 votes) 6 22 y/o Luke Heimlich, the convicted PEDOPHILE who was the Star Pitcher at his Oregon State University team just had his dream crushed as he was NOT chosen during the first day of MLB draft, a year after it was revealed he plead guilty to molesting his neice!! The shocking revelation made headlines across the country just before he was considered the country's best pitcher and he was SUPPOSED to be drafted based on the scouts reactions to his amazing "pitches" for the university.. But it came to an end as he was not chosen to play in the Major Leagues after last summer when a journalist blew the whistle on his past and posted the shocking story where he was convicted of molesting his older brother's 6 y/o daughter when he was 15.. He broke his silence after initially stating he had nothing to say to tell the NYT that "i always denied anything ever happened. Even after i plead guilty, which was a decision me and my parents thought was the best option to move forward as a family. And after that, even when i was going through counseling and treatment, i maintained my innocence the whole time" The mother however said "There is no way he DIDN'T DO IT" after describing her daughter's very specific allegation and said that her daughter, who was 6 at the time said that Luke had pulled down her underwear and touched her both inside and outside of the spot she uses to go to the bathroom!! She told him to stop but he wouldn't and that it "hurt" when he kept touching her. Luke was charged with 2 counts of molestation in 2009 to 2011 as it started when she was FOUR He was offered a plea deal in which he plead guilty in return one charge was dropped but was placed as a level one sex offender for 5 years Luke claimed he plead guilty only to have this case go away "quicker" and that a lower profile trial would make it easier on his family who said trials aren't fun and hoped that this case was on the down low and wouldn't go public... Unfortunately for him, he forgot to update his location for the sex offender registry and a Journalist got wind of it and EXPOSED HIM!! Critics were calling for his head and to be kicked off the team and the victim's mother said he should NEVER be able to play again as she said her daughter's case will only go away when he is out of the spotlight. His coach said that Luke was a fine young man and deserves another chance and he BELIEVES HIM when he says he didn't do it. Luke is calling his now 13 y/o niece a LIAR now and he is no longer speaking to his brother Luke still has another chance to be drafted but given his history, it remains to be seen if any MLB team will take him in since this story broke Do you think this kid deserves another chance to be on a pro MLB team?. Luke - Dreams Crushed http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/05/16/4CF1080E00000578-0-image-a-19_1528214370108.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/08/04/4BF62C4000000578-5702199-image-a-15_1525751938029.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/05/16/4CDCAFF300000578-0-image-a-12_1528213042630.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/05/16/4CF0DB4C00000578-0-image-a-6_1528212941053.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/05/16/4CF0DB2100000578-0-image-a-17_1528213222226.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/05/16/4CF0DB2C00000578-0-image-a-16_1528213222139.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 06/06/18 1:25:57 AM #2:	Nope he's wired to touch the children. Who ever voted he should get another chance is also a pedo. <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:902630627] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote>Nope he's wired to touch the children. Who ever voted he should get another chance is also a pedo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faramir77 06/06/18 1:27:49 AM #3:	Full Throttle posted... Luke had pulled down her underwear and touched her both inside and outside of the spot she uses to go to the bathroom!! Her urethra? --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:902630684] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote>Luke had pulled down her underwear and touched her both inside and outside of the spot she uses to go to the bathroom!!</quote> Her urethra?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 06/06/18 1:31:36 AM #4:	Assuming that the events happened as claimed, he was only 15 at the time so change certainly seems possible(although it's worth remembering that sex crimes tend to have one of the highest recidivism rates). More generally, after people serve their time, they should be able to do pretty much whatever. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:902630806] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote>Assuming that the events happened as claimed, he was only 15 at the time so change certainly seems possible(although it's worth remembering that sex crimes tend to have one of the highest recidivism rates). More generally, after people serve their time, they should be able to do pretty much whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keebs05 06/06/18 1:34:34 AM #5:	This is a tough one. We all did stupid shit as teenagers (although I don't think many of us diddled our nieces) but I'm also a strong believer in sex offenders being almost completely incapable of rehabilitation. --- "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away" R.I.P PFC Dusty Seidel <cite>Keebs05 posted [p:902630885] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote>This is a tough one. We all did stupid shit as teenagers (although I don't think many of us diddled our nieces) but I'm also a strong believer in sex offenders being almost completely incapable of rehabilitation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Golden Road 06/06/18 2:29:40 AM #6:	Whether or not a pedophile can redeem themself is a moot point when talking about a specific pedophile who doesn't seem to care about redeeming himself. --- Who's your favorite character from "Bend It Like Beckham"? And you can't say Beckham. <cite>Golden Road posted [p:902632436] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote>Whether or not a pedophile can redeem themself is a moot point when talking about a specific pedophile who doesn't seem to care about redeeming himself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 06/06/18 2:34:54 AM #7:	http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/05/16/4CDCAFF300000578-0-image-a-12_1528213042630.jpg Yup. Did it. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:902632537] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote>http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/05/16/4CDCAFF300000578-0-image-a-12_1528213042630.jpg Yup. Did it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 06/06/18 2:44:57 AM #8:	Golden Road posted... Whether or not a pedophile can redeem themself is a moot point when talking about a specific pedophile who doesn't seem to care about redeeming himself. Because what, he protests his innocence? -_- Because minors are never pressured into giving false confessions to make things go away, right? (Assuming that you don't believe that whether he's guilty or innocent is a moot point and that he should go through the motions even if he didn't actually do it.) --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:902632733] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Golden Road posted...</cite> <quote>Whether or not a pedophile can redeem themself is a moot point when talking about a specific pedophile who doesn't seem to care about redeeming himself.</quote> Because what, he protests his innocence? -_- Because minors are never pressured into giving false confessions to make things go away, right? (Assuming that you don't believe that whether he's guilty or innocent is a moot point and that he should go through the motions even if he didn't actually do it.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Golden Road 06/06/18 1:09:14 PM #9:	Zeus posted... Because what, he protests his innocence? -_- Because minors are never pressured into giving false confessions to make things go away, right? (Assuming that you don't believe that whether he's guilty or innocent is a moot point and that he should go through the motions even if he didn't actually do it.) I suppose that is a more important point. This person obviously isn't a redeemed pedophile, though I guess it's fair to ask whether or not he's a pedophile in the first place. It certainly sounds like he probably did it, though. --- Who's your favorite character from "Bend It Like Beckham"? And you can't say Beckham. <cite>Golden Road posted [p:902652372] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Because what, he protests his innocence? -_- Because minors are never pressured into giving false confessions to make things go away, right? (Assuming that you don't believe that whether he's guilty or innocent is a moot point and that he should go through the motions even if he didn't actually do it.)</quote> I suppose that is a more important point. This person obviously isn't a redeemed pedophile, though I guess it's fair to ask whether or not he's a pedophile in the first place. It certainly sounds like he probably did it, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krow_Incarnate 06/06/18 1:52:59 PM #10:	I read that as "Middle Linebacker" and was confused for a minute. Is it shitty that I was hoping it was someone a rival may have drafted? --- Hail Hydra <cite>Krow_Incarnate posted [p:902654964] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote>I read that as "Middle Linebacker" and was confused for a minute. Is it shitty that I was hoping it was someone a rival may have drafted?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/06/18 1:56:46 PM #11:	Full Throttle posted... he was convicted of molesting his older brother's 6 y/o daughter when he was 15.. This waste of life doesn't deserve to be alive nevermind "another chance to play Pro Baseball". --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:902655183] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote> he was convicted of molesting his older brother's 6 y/o daughter when he was 15..</quote> This waste of life doesn't deserve to be alive nevermind "another chance to play Pro Baseball".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 06/06/18 2:00:43 PM #12:	wwinterj25 posted... Full Throttle posted... he was convicted of molesting his older brother's 6 y/o daughter when he was 15.. This waste of life doesn't deserve to be alive nevermind "another chance to play Pro Baseball". And the rest of the article says he pleaded guilty to get the case dealt with, not as an admission of guilt. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:902655433] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote> he was convicted of molesting his older brother's 6 y/o daughter when he was 15..</quote> This waste of life doesn't deserve to be alive nevermind "another chance to play Pro Baseball".</quote> And the rest of the article says he pleaded guilty to get the case dealt with, not as an admission of guilt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/06/18 2:06:29 PM #13:	Kyuubi4269 posted... And the rest of the article says he pleaded guilty to get the case dealt with, not as an admission of guilt. "Yeah, I'm guilty guys but I'm not really guilty. Please believe me, ok?" --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:902655771] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>And the rest of the article says he pleaded guilty to get the case dealt with, not as an admission of guilt.</quote> "Yeah, I'm guilty guys but I'm not really guilty. Please believe me, ok?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 06/06/18 2:10:52 PM #14:	wwinterj25 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... And the rest of the article says he pleaded guilty to get the case dealt with, not as an admission of guilt. "Yeah, I'm guilty guys but I'm not really guilty. Please believe me, ok?" "A child said he did it so he did it, okay?" I'm not saying he didn't, but it's not quite so cut and dry. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:902656020] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>And the rest of the article says he pleaded guilty to get the case dealt with, not as an admission of guilt.</quote> "Yeah, I'm guilty guys but I'm not really guilty. Please believe me, ok?"</quote> "A child said he did it so he did it, okay?" I'm not saying he didn't, but it's not quite so cut and dry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/06/18 2:16:40 PM #15:	Kyuubi4269 posted... "A child said he did it so he did it, okay?" I'm not saying he didn't, but it's not quite so cut and dry. The kid said he did it, he pleaded guilty and was convicted. Case closed. The only argument you have to disagree with this is "hurr durrr he said he didn't do it despite saying he did". Stop defending convicted kiddie fiddlers. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:902656388] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>"A child said he did it so he did it, okay?" I'm not saying he didn't, but it's not quite so cut and dry.</quote> The kid said he did it, he pleaded guilty and was convicted. Case closed. The only argument you have to disagree with this is "hurr durrr he said he didn't do it despite saying he did". Stop defending convicted kiddie fiddlers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 06/06/18 2:18:21 PM #16:	should've been executed --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:902656494] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote>should've been executed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/06/18 2:36:22 PM #17:	If he did it he is scum But like was said, we can't know 100% that it happened. It probably did but we don't know. People calling for his death are going too far. Especially since he was a child when it happened <cite>Zikten posted [p:902657547] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote>If he did it he is scum But like was said, we can't know 100% that it happened. It probably did but we don't know. People calling for his death are going too far. Especially since he was a child when it happened</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/06/18 2:37:24 PM #18:	Golden Road posted... Whether or not a pedophile can redeem themself is a moot point when talking about a specific pedophile who doesn't seem to care about redeeming himself. Except in this case it seems like nobody knows if he actually did it or not. wwinterj25 posted... The kid said he did it, he pleaded guilty and was convicted. Case closed. The only argument you have to disagree with this is "hurr durrr he said he didn't do it despite saying he did". Stop defending convicted kiddie fiddlers. Actually there's no evidence that the child actually did say anything and it wasn't just the mother making something up. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:902657623] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Golden Road posted...</cite> <quote>Whether or not a pedophile can redeem themself is a moot point when talking about a specific pedophile who doesn't seem to care about redeeming himself.</quote> Except in this case it seems like nobody knows if he actually did it or not. <cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>The kid said he did it, he pleaded guilty and was convicted. Case closed. The only argument you have to disagree with this is "hurr durrr he said he didn't do it despite saying he did". Stop defending convicted kiddie fiddlers.</quote> Actually there's no evidence that the child actually did say anything and it wasn't just the mother making something up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mrduckbear 06/06/18 11:09:46 PM #19:	the people have spoken, NEVER --- Every time a Gamefaqs User PROVES they Stepped on a Bug, i will STOP Posting for 24 Hours...THIS ACCOUNT ONLY <cite>mrduckbear posted [p:902686447] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote>the people have spoken, NEVER</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/06/18 11:13:49 PM #20:	mrduckbear posted... the people have spoken, NEVER Because they didn't read any of the articles about him and automatically assumed he did it. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:902686677] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>mrduckbear posted...</cite> <quote>the people have spoken, NEVER</quote> Because they didn't read any of the articles about him and automatically assumed he did it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/06/18 11:16:20 PM #21:	Revelation34 posted... Because they didn't read any of the articles about him and automatically assumed he did it. Yeah I mean it's not like he admitted to it and was convicted. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:902686807] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Because they didn't read any of the articles about him and automatically assumed he did it.</quote> Yeah I mean it's not like he admitted to it and was convicted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/06/18 11:19:05 PM #22:	wwinterj25 posted... Yeah I mean it's not like he admitted to it and was convicted. this has been explained. he was a child and got convinced by a lawyer to plead guilty. this happens alot in trials. it still doesn't prove anything. legally, pleading guilty is not an admission that you actually did it <cite>Zikten posted [p:902686971] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah I mean it's not like he admitted to it and was convicted.</quote> this has been explained. he was a child and got convinced by a lawyer to plead guilty. this happens alot in trials. it still doesn't prove anything. legally, pleading guilty is not an admission that you actually did it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 06/06/18 11:22:13 PM #23:	Full Throttle posted... "i always denied anything ever happened. Even after i plead guilty, which was a decision me and my parents thought was the best option to move forward as a family. And after that, even when i was going through counseling and treatment, i maintained my innocence the whole time" Pleading guilty is admitting to it. Do you not have something called an Alford plea in the US? Basically stating you are innocent, but are aware for some reason you would be convicted regardless? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:902687107] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote> "i always denied anything ever happened. Even after i plead guilty, which was a decision me and my parents thought was the best option to move forward as a family. And after that, even when i was going through counseling and treatment, i maintained my innocence the whole time"</quote> Pleading guilty is admitting to it. Do you not have something called an Alford plea in the US? Basically stating you are innocent, but are aware for some reason you would be convicted regardless?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/06/18 11:27:31 PM #24:	Zikten posted... this has been explained. he was a child and got convinced by a lawyer to plead guilty. this happens alot in trials. it still doesn't prove anything. He was 15. That's a teenager not a child. If someone pleads guilty they are guilty in my book as you know they said they are. Changing the story once your shit goes public just means you're backpedalling to save face. I feel sorry for his niece and the rest of the family that this scumbag is still alive. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:902687468] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>this has been explained. he was a child and got convinced by a lawyer to plead guilty. this happens alot in trials. it still doesn't prove anything.</quote> He was 15. That's a teenager not a child. If someone pleads guilty they are guilty in my book as you know they said they are. Changing the story once your shit goes public just means you're backpedalling to save face. I feel sorry for his niece and the rest of the family that this scumbag is still alive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
samuricex 06/06/18 11:40:14 PM #25:	I agree with the mom, I don't think the five year old can come up with a story like that. --- "Think you're a dragon slayer? Come here and try." -Shyvana <cite>samuricex posted [p:902688269] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote>I agree with the mom, I don't think the five year old can come up with a story like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/06/18 11:53:59 PM #26:	samuricex posted... I agree with the mom, I don't think the five year old can come up with a story like that. Which is why there's no evidence she wasn't the one who created the story in the first place. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:902689046] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>samuricex posted...</cite> <quote>I agree with the mom, I don't think the five year old can come up with a story like that.</quote> Which is why there's no evidence she wasn't the one who created the story in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/06/18 11:56:56 PM #27:	I'm not saying we should excuse what he did if he did it. but I am saying that we can't know for sure 100% that he did it. there is no solid evidence other than hearsay. and it was years ago. <cite>Zikten posted [p:902689205] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote>I'm not saying we should excuse what he did if he did it. but I am saying that we can't know for sure 100% that he did it. there is no solid evidence other than hearsay. and it was years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keebs05 06/07/18 12:18:40 AM #28:	Zikten posted... wwinterj25 posted... Yeah I mean it's not like he admitted to it and was convicted. this has been explained. he was a child and got convinced by a lawyer to plead guilty. this happens alot in trials. it still doesn't prove anything. legally, pleading guilty is not an admission that you actually did it You're confusing a guilty plea with a plea of no contest and/or an Alford plea. Legally, pleading guilty is literally admitting that you actually did it. --- "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away" R.I.P PFC Dusty Seidel <cite>Keebs05 posted [p:902690258] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah I mean it's not like he admitted to it and was convicted.</quote> this has been explained. he was a child and got convinced by a lawyer to plead guilty. this happens alot in trials. it still doesn't prove anything. legally, pleading guilty is not an admission that you actually did it</quote> You're confusing a guilty plea with a plea of no contest and/or an Alford plea. Legally, pleading guilty is literally admitting that you actually did it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/07/18 9:36:28 AM #29:	Zikten posted... I'm not saying we should excuse what he did if he did it. but I am saying that we can't know for sure 100% that he did it. there is no solid evidence other than hearsay. and it was years ago. Person 1: I'm guilty yes! Judge: Are you sure? Person 1: Absolutely! Judge: I'm not sure I believe you Person 1: I swear on my mum I'm guilty! Judge: Ok. you're sentenced. Person 1: Oh shit, I'm innocent really! Judge: Too late, take him away --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:902704254] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not saying we should excuse what he did if he did it. but I am saying that we can't know for sure 100% that he did it. there is no solid evidence other than hearsay. and it was years ago.</quote> Person 1: I'm guilty yes! Judge: Are you sure? Person 1: Absolutely! Judge: I'm not sure I believe you Person 1: I swear on my mum I'm guilty! Judge: Ok. you're sentenced. Person 1: Oh shit, I'm innocent really! Judge: Too late, take him away</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/07/18 2:36:01 PM #30:	wwinterj25 posted... Person 1: I'm guilty yes! Judge: Are you sure? Person 1: Absolutely! Judge: I'm not sure I believe you Person 1: I swear on my mum I'm guilty! Judge: Ok. you're sentenced. Person 1: Oh shit, I'm innocent really! Judge: Too late, take him away So nothing then? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:902719891] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote> Person 1: I'm guilty yes! Judge: Are you sure? Person 1: Absolutely! Judge: I'm not sure I believe you Person 1: I swear on my mum I'm guilty! Judge: Ok. you're sentenced. Person 1: Oh shit, I'm innocent really! Judge: Too late, take him away</quote> So nothing then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/07/18 6:36:09 PM #31:	Revelation34 posted... So nothing then? Nothing but the guilty plea no. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:902733543] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>So nothing then?</quote> Nothing but the guilty plea no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/07/18 6:59:45 PM #32:	wwinterj25 posted... Nothing but the guilty plea no. You missed the point anyway. There's no evidence he actually did it. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:902734849] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote> Nothing but the guilty plea no.</quote> You missed the point anyway. There's no evidence he actually did it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/07/18 7:02:01 PM #33:	Revelation34 posted... You missed the point anyway. There's no evidence he actually did it. ... but we did get a guilty plea thus he's guilty. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:902734982] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>You missed the point anyway. There's no evidence he actually did it.</quote> ... but we did get a guilty plea thus he's guilty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/07/18 7:05:23 PM #34:	wwinterj25 posted... ... but we did get a guilty plea thus he's guilty. Definition of guilt in English: guilt noun mass noun 1The fact of having committed a specified or implied offence or crime. it is the duty of the prosecution to prove the prisoner's guilt --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:902735173] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>... but we did get a guilty plea thus he's guilty.</quote> Definition of guilt in English: guilt noun mass noun 1The fact of having committed a specified or implied offence or crime. it is the duty of the prosecution to prove the prisoner's guilt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGuiltySpark 06/07/18 7:07:03 PM #35:	wwinterj25 posted... Revelation34 posted... You missed the point anyway. There's no evidence he actually did it. ... but we did get a guilty plea thus he's guilty. This and this and this and nothing else. No "but," anything. It's official record, legally binding and considered sworn response to allegations. Doesn't matter how, why, or what he was thinking/actually did. If you plea guilty, then comes sentencing and that's the end of it. <cite>TheGuiltySpark posted [p:902735264] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>You missed the point anyway. There's no evidence he actually did it.</quote> ... but we did get a guilty plea thus he's guilty.</quote> This and this and this and nothing else. No "but," anything. It's official record, legally binding and considered sworn response to allegations. Doesn't matter how, why, or what he was thinking/actually did. If you plea guilty, then comes sentencing and that's the end of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/07/18 7:14:50 PM #36:	Revelation34 posted... Definition of guilt in English: Thanks for that. Still pleaded guilty and thus is guilty. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:902735654] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Definition of guilt in English:</quote> Thanks for that. Still pleaded guilty and thus is guilty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/07/18 7:18:21 PM #37:	wwinterj25 posted... thus is guilty. Prove it. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:902735831] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote> thus is guilty.</quote> Prove it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/07/18 7:19:16 PM #38:	Revelation34 posted... Prove it. He was charged as he admitted to it. Prove he's not guilty. I'll wait. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:902735871] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Prove it.</quote> He was charged as he admitted to it. Prove he's not guilty. I'll wait.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/07/18 10:07:31 PM #39:	wwinterj25 posted... He was charged as he admitted to it. Prove he's not guilty. I'll wait. Exactly. There's no proof either way. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:902744700] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>He was charged as he admitted to it. Prove he's not guilty. I'll wait.</quote> Exactly. There's no proof either way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/07/18 10:14:43 PM #40:	Revelation34 posted... Exactly. There's no proof either way. Only the fact he said he is guilty. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:902745074] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Exactly. There's no proof either way.</quote> Only the fact he said he is guilty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 06/07/18 10:50:03 PM #41:	people here believe anything if arv said he can walk on water they'd be like yep. arv said he could do it therefore its true. the only ones who know if he did it or not is him and that girl. no one else --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:902746975] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote>people here believe anything if arv said he can walk on water they'd be like yep. arv said he could do it therefore its true. the only ones who know if he did it or not is him and that girl. no one else</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LifelessBoy 06/07/18 10:57:18 PM #42:	After reading some of the comments in this thread. _ --- GT: YFAL Putipuelko - PSN: LifelessFather - Steam ID: YFAL_Putipuelko - DayZ: The Nightman <cite>LifelessBoy posted [p:902747320] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote>After reading some of the comments in this thread. _</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 06/07/18 10:58:34 PM #43:	wwinterj25 posted... Revelation34 posted... Exactly. There's no proof either way. Only the fact he said he is guilty. In the US justice system. It's always been a money game so why would it be different now? --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:902747379] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Exactly. There's no proof either way.</quote> Only the fact he said he is guilty.</quote> In the US justice system. It's always been a money game so why would it be different now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LifelessBoy 06/07/18 11:01:24 PM #44:	Kyuubi4269 posted... wwinterj25 posted... Revelation34 posted... Exactly. There's no proof either way. Only the fact he said he is guilty. In the US justice system. It's always been a money game so why would it be different now? _ --- GT: YFAL Putipuelko - PSN: LifelessFather - Steam ID: YFAL_Putipuelko - DayZ: The Nightman <cite>LifelessBoy posted [p:902747509] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Exactly. There's no proof either way.</quote> Only the fact he said he is guilty.</quote> In the US justice system. It's always been a money game so why would it be different now?</quote> _</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trentpac 06/07/18 11:14:06 PM #46:	I don't care if he did it or not. He pled guilty...so if he's served his time and he's still on the sex offenders list then he should be able to do whatever he wants to do career wise. Obviously he can't be working with children...but other than that why care? --- "I have seen great intolerance shown in support of tolerance."-Samuel Taylor Coleridge <cite>trentpac posted [p:902748235] in 22 y/o Kid... [t:76678885]...</cite> <quote>I don't care if he did it or not. He pled guilty...so if he's served his time and he's still on the sex offenders list then he should be able to do whatever he wants to do career wise. Obviously he can't be working with children...but other than that why care?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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