Current Events > POLL: Pride month is here. Are you proud of how far society has come?

(+) Yeah! (+)

We still have a long way to go of course, but I'm happy that the LGBT community is more visible these days and treated with respect.

How about you, CE?
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very proud :D

I wouldn't call it "progress"
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Big_Nabendu posted...

I wouldn't call it "progress"

You don't consider visibility progress? Visibility is what leads to hearts and minds being changed.

It's easy to hate an entire group of people to which you have no exposure. But when you do have exposure, you see that they're just like everyone else. They want to be loved and happy. And who can be against that?
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it's obviously good that gay people can marry, and things are in a much better place, but with how bad things still are in the u.s(not just for gay people, just overall)

it's hard to get too excited

especially when corporate bullshit is co-opting the stonewall riots
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Gays are awesome. And this is coming from a straight dude.
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I see it as one step forward=gays:lesbians being more accepted and being able to legally marry, but two steps backwards=SJWs, transsexuals trying to force straight men to bang or date them, the war on men in general, modern feminism, and when the left says MS-13 members are better then Trump supporters.
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Yes
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Offworlder1 posted...

and when the left says MS-13 members are better then Trump supporters.

lmao you guys got fucking tricked

that literally all started because a dude was trolling (doesn't even have a daughter) and said that just to piss people off and it worked, dumbass fox news even did a segment on it.
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I never heard of Pride Month until I clicked this topic
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Laying here with my new neovagina and the future possibilities, yes, I am proud.
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I'm gonna be honest

I have a grudge against the LGBT for appropriating the rainbow

You can't have a prism color scheme thing going on for a character or show anymore without people everywhere shouting "gay" or people declaring the character gay

It's just pretty colors man
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Paper_Okami posted...

Offworlder1 posted...

and when the left says MS-13 members are better then Trump supporters.

lmao you guys got fucking tricked

that literally all started because a dude was trolling (doesn't even have a daughter) and said that just to piss people off and it worked, dumbass fox news even did a segment on it.

the right falls for fake news the easiest. they're the kings of projection.
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You don't have to like it. As long as you accept it.

@Paper_Okami

Thats like saying bs like Hitler waa right but think people should know its a joke. That kind of stupidity does not fly and making obsurd and offense comments either means your a shithead or extremely stupid to think people will see it as a joke.

The guy made a bad statement and now his side is being criticized for it.
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Definitely happy with the societal shift but there can still be a lot more done.
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Yes, in my life I've seen support for gay marriage swing from 15% to 85%. (Ass pull numbers but the change was more or less that big and in a short decade to boot.)

There's still a bit of ways to go, many states don't have sexuality as a protected class but other than that, we've nearly achieved equality for gays.
As for trans, they shouldn't be compartmentalized with them. It's a radically different checkbox but it's good to see their acceptance, even if there are a bunch of loud idiot regressives that take it far too far with the pronouns and such.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

There's still a bit of ways to go, many states don't have sexuality as a protected class but other than that, we've nearly achieved equality for gays.

I'm literally writing a casenote about that in law school right now. It's slowly shifting more towards sexual orientation being a protected class but in federal courts, it's still split fairly down the middle on whether it is or not. The 2nd circuit changed the law just a couple months ago and made sexual orientation a protected class and for the most part, I think the other circuits that haven't yet eventually will.
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Cosmic_Diabetic posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

There's still a bit of ways to go, many states don't have sexuality as a protected class but other than that, we've nearly achieved equality for gays.

I'm literally writing a casenote about that in law school right now. It's slowly shifting more towards sexual orientation being a protected class but in federal courts, it's still split fairly down the middle on whether it is or not. The 2nd circuit changed the law just a couple months ago and made sexual orientation a protected class and for the most part, I think the other circuits that haven't yet eventually will.

Awesome.
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It hasn't come far enough.
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Offworlder1 posted...

@Paper_Okami

Thats like saying bs like Hitler waa right but think people should know its a joke. That kind of stupidity does not fly and making obsurd and offense comments either means your a shithead or extremely stupid to think people will see it as a joke.

The guy made a bad statement and now his side is being criticized for it.

https://twitter.com/dril/status/134787490526658561
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I'm very happy.

My best friend is gay. This year I'll be attending a parade with him.
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But does having a 'pride month' means much after you reading anonymous comments ?
I don't need to prove anything to straights and im from a country that considered 'not safe' by west standards. And yet i had better sense of community than now, when i live in the 'accepting' West
Personally, i don't need a pride month

So just thought everyone should know. Turns out yesterday there was a petition for a case from the 2nd circuit to get certiori which means discrimination against sexual orientation being protected by the Civil Rights Act may be going to the SCOTUS very soon here.

So this might be one of the biggest LGBTQ+ moments since gay marriage was legalized nationwide.
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Cosmic_Diabetic posted...

So just thought everyone should know. Turns out yesterday there was a petition for a case from the 2nd circuit to get certiori which means discrimination against sexual orientation being protected by the Civil Rights Act may be going to the SCOTUS very soon here.

So this might be one of the biggest LGBTQ+ moments since gay marriage was legalized nationwide.

Very nice.
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The only barrier holding us back from quicker progress are conservatives.

"proud" feels like the wrong term since generally you are only proud of your own achievements or ones you had a significant part in

but I think it's good
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But Society hasn't progressed far enough.

Polygamy isn't legally / socially acceptable everywhere.

Age of Consent is way too high in many States/Countries.

There are a whole range of people in the QUILTBAG movement who hasn't been serviced.

Questioning / Queer / Quasi-Sexual /
Unrepresented / Undetermined / Unsure / Uni-Sexual
Intersex / Inter-Species / Incestuous /
Lesbian / Loose / Liberal /
Transgender / Transvestite / Two-Spirit / Triple-Spirit
Bi-Sexual / Bigamous / Bi-Racial / Bi-Species
Asexual / Aracial / Ally of the Cause /
Gay / Gender queer / Gender identities / Gender alignments

Only a few on the QUILTBAG Acronym list has been helped.

What about the rest?

They want their rights, their visibility, their social acceptance, their legal rights as well!
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When I look at parents pumping their kids up with puberty blockers, the massive suicide rates in the trans community, grade school kids who don't know what bathroom to use and fifty different genders to choose from at whim, "progress" is not what I'm seeing.
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#GaysRule
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Fuparulez posted...

When I look at parents pumping their kids up with puberty blockers, the massive suicide rates in the trans community, grade school kids who don't know what bathroom to use and fifty different genders to choose from at whim, "progress" is not what I'm seeing.

This is why All Kids need to be normal cis-gendered Males/Females until their 25, then they can decide with their fully biologically developed brains what path they want to lead in life with their Sexual Identity.
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it's cool and all but i really don't care enough

i'm only proud of my own accomplishments, as few as they may be - i'm not going to be proud of something i had nothing to do with

Roshon posted...

The only barrier holding us back from quicker progress are conservatives.

this isn't true at all, there are significant barrier posed by establishment liberals

like literal gay activists in the 70s turned their back on the primary causers of the stone wall riots because they weren't "prime and proper enough"

liberals may have not been attacking MLK and the marchers with him, but they quietly poo pooed him

Conservatives may be more of a barrier, but suggesting that they are the only barrier is a very poor, and inaccurate reading of the current situation in America.

A Significant amount of American "liberals" are not particularly liberal at all.
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Paper_Okami posted...

Roshon posted...

The only barrier holding us back from quicker progress are conservatives.

this isn't true at all, there are significant barrier posed by establishment liberals

like literal gay activists in the 70s turned their back on the primary causers of the stone wall riots because they weren't "prime and proper enough"

liberals may have not been attacking MLK and the marchers with him, but they quietly poo pooed him

Conservatives may be more of a barrier, but suggesting that they are the only barrier is a very poor, and inaccurate reading of the current situation in America.

A Significant amount of American "liberals" are not particularly liberal at all.

Liberal judges will back gay rights issues. Many conservative judges wont.

You said current situation in America and then listed a bunch of old examples. What example is there in current America?

KamenRiderBlade posted...

/ Liberal /

I never knew it was a sexual orientation this whole time

Could've been better.
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Im proud of how far we've come, this is the safest I've felt as a gay man in America.

I think we're mostly tolerated here, "acceptance" is another story. But it's baby steps.

I don't personally feel "pride" in my orientation though. It's not like i worked / earned anything by liking men. But it's nothing anyone should ever feel shame or lower self-worth over, it's irrelevant to the content of your character.

KamenRiderBlade posted...

But Society hasn't progressed far enough.

Polygamy isn't legally / socially acceptable everywhere.

Age of Consent is way too high in many States/Countries.

There are a whole range of people in the QUILTBAG movement who hasn't been serviced.

Questioning / Queer / Quasi-Sexual /
Unrepresented / Undetermined / Unsure / Uni-Sexual
Intersex / Inter-Species / Incestuous /
Lesbian / Loose / Liberal /
Transgender / Transvestite / Two-Spirit / Triple-Spirit
Bi-Sexual / Bigamous / Bi-Racial / Bi-Species
Asexual / Aracial / Ally of the Cause /
Gay / Gender queer / Gender identities / Gender alignments

Only a few on the QUILTBAG Acronym list has been helped.

What about the rest?

They want their rights, their visibility, their social acceptance, their legal rights as well!

He said we have a ways to go in the OP, we should be proud of the progress we've made so far tho. I know you're just trolling, but I wanted to ensure anyone reading this topic didn't think that you had any legitimate gripes.

Paper_Okami posted...

Roshon posted...

The only barrier holding us back from quicker progress are conservatives.

this isn't true at all, there are significant barrier posed by establishment liberals

like literal gay activists in the 70s turned their back on the primary causers of the stone wall riots because they weren't "prime and proper enough"

liberals may have not been attacking MLK and the marchers with him, but they quietly poo pooed him

Conservatives may be more of a barrier, but suggesting that they are the only barrier is a very poor, and inaccurate reading of the current situation in America.

A Significant amount of American "liberals" are not particularly liberal at all.

He said they're the only barrier from "quicker progress", not progress in general. And while that still may not be 100% accurate, it's close enough that his point should be addressed rather than nitpicked and then brushed aside.
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Big_Nabendu posted...

I wouldn't call it "progress"

What do you mean?

Anyway, yes I'm happy to see how much society has progressed over my lifetime. There is still a ton of way to go, but it's really beautiful to see that, as a whole, we have thrown away such stupid, arbitrary prejudices.

Sayoria posted...

Laying here with my new neovagina and the future possibilities, yes, I am proud.

I'll be honest 'neovagina' is the most intimidating term I've heard all day.
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Iron-Tarkus posted...

Sayoria posted...

Laying here with my new neovagina and the future possibilities, yes, I am proud.

I'll be honest 'neovagina' is the most intimidating term I've heard all day.

It sounds gangster af
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As good as it is to promote equality regardless of a person's sexual orientation, I don't really like the idea of "Gay Pride Month" because it implies that a person's sexuality defines who they are, and that it is a quality of them that must be flaunted. Basically, it implies that LGBT is "special" and not treating them like everyone else.
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DracoSpire posted...

As good as it is to promote equality regardless of a person's sexual orientation, I don't really like the idea of "Gay Pride Month" because it implies that a person's sexuality defines who they are, and that it is a quality of them that must be flaunted. Basically, it implies that LGBT is "special" and not treating them like everyone else.

That's not true at all bro. Being gay was very difficult in America and still is in a lot of places. Being able to come out of the closet and stop hiding that part of you is very freeing for those people. Because it is indeed a part of who they aren't but in no way does that mean its the entirety of their being, or "defines" them as you put it. It sounds like you have some personal hang ups when it comes to gay people celebrating the fact that they can take pride in an aspect of their being that they used to be forced to hide and were ashamed of.
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People might not discriminate so much against gay people if they stopped holding these events where they walk down the street half naked with all colours of the rainbow in their hair. It's just playing up to the stereotype.

Trelve posted...

People might not discriminate so much against gay people if they stopped holding these events where they walk down the street half naked with all colours of the rainbow in their hair. It's just playing up to the stereotype.

That's definitely not true and makes 0 sense. Pride month doesn't cause people to be bigots, it exposes their bigotry. Cuz they're bigoted all year long, not just during pride month.

This kinda post is playing up to the stereotype of a homophobe tho.
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Pride month is always so fun

nicklebro posted...

He said we have a ways to go in the OP, we should be proud of the progress we've made so far tho. I know you're just trolling, but I wanted to ensure anyone reading this topic didn't think that you had any legitimate gripes.

I don't troll, we haven't gone far enough, we've barely touched the surface.
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nicklebro posted...

That's not true at all bro. Being gay was very difficult in America and still is in a lot of places. Being able to come out of the closet and stop hiding that part of you is very freeing for those people. Because it is indeed a part of who they aren't but in no way does that mean its the entirety of their being, or "defines" them as you put it. It sounds like you have some personal hang ups when it comes to gay people celebrating the fact that they can take pride in an aspect of their being that they used to be forced to hide and were ashamed of

What about all the other people who are different from Cis-gendered Hetero's?

There's a literal laundry list of different types of people.

Shouldn't they get their own "Pride Days"?
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nicklebro posted...

DracoSpire posted...

As good as it is to promote equality regardless of a person's sexual orientation, I don't really like the idea of "Gay Pride Month" because it implies that a person's sexuality defines who they are, and that it is a quality of them that must be flaunted. Basically, it implies that LGBT is "special" and not treating them like everyone else.

That's not true at all bro. Being gay was very difficult in America and still is in a lot of places. Being able to come out of the closet and stop hiding that part of you is very freeing for those people. Because it is indeed a part of who they aren't but in no way does that mean its the entirety of their being, or "defines" them as you put it. It sounds like you have some personal hang ups when it comes to gay people celebrating the fact that they can take pride in an aspect of their being that they used to be forced to hide and were ashamed of.

Why are you just randomly looking for posts I make in topics to quote and call me an a-hole for?
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