Poll of the Day > NFL: All NFL players 'shall stand and show respect' for flag and anthem.

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WastelandCowboy 05/23/18 3:08:08 PM #1:	https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/23/613708667/all-nfl-players-shall-stand-and-show-respect-for-flag-and-anthem-league-says Unveiling a new policy after months of controversy and debate over players taking a knee or otherwise making statements during the national anthem, the NFL says all of its athletes and staff "shall stand and show respect for the flag and the Anthem" if they're on the field. "Personnel who choose not to stand for the Anthem may stay in the locker room or in a similar location off the field until after the Anthem has been performed," the league said in its new policy. The possibility that the NFL might issue a blanket restriction on protests during the anthem has been discussed for months, and the buzz gained new momentum this week. But the NFL Players Association says, "The NFL chose to not consult the union in the development of this new 'policy.' " The league's decision goes against what the NFL had told players "about the principles, values and patriotism of our league," the union said, adding that it will review the policy with an eye toward mounting challenges if elements of it contradict the current contract. As news of the strict policy spread, Vice President Mike Pence tweeted, "#Winning" along with an American flag and a screenshot of a story about the NFL's anthem policy. Athletes' behavior during the anthem and flag presentation became a national conversation and a political talking point after NFL players used the traditional opening of their games as a moment to protest police brutality and racism in America. That effort was led by former San Francisco 49er Colin Kaepernick, who took a knee during the anthem and who went from being a starting quarterback to being an unsigned free agent in the spring of 2017. Despite Kaepernick's absence from the game last season, NFL teams struggled to craft coherent responses to players' desires to highlight social issues and they also faced intense public scrutiny, including from President Trump, who condemned players who refused to stand and urged fans to boycott the NFL until teams quashed the protests. Saying that the new policy was meant to put the focus back on the game, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said on Thursday, "It was unfortunate that on-field protests created a false perception among many that thousands of NFL players were unpatriotic. This is not and was never the case." NFL team owners voted to adopt the policy and while the league says the changes "were unanimously approved by team owners who voted," it also notes that 49ers team owner Jed York abstained, at least in part because York wanted the players to be involved. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:901857818] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/23/613708667/all-nfl-players-shall-stand-and-show-respect-for-flag-and-anthem-league-says <quote>Unveiling a new policy after months of controversy and debate over players taking a knee or otherwise making statements during the national anthem, the NFL says all of its athletes and staff "shall stand and show respect for the flag and the Anthem" if they're on the field. "Personnel who choose not to stand for the Anthem may stay in the locker room or in a similar location off the field until after the Anthem has been performed," the league said in its new policy. The possibility that the NFL might issue a blanket restriction on protests during the anthem has been discussed for months, and the buzz gained new momentum this week. But the NFL Players Association says, "The NFL chose to not consult the union in the development of this new 'policy.' " The league's decision goes against what the NFL had told players "about the principles, values and patriotism of our league," the union said, adding that it will review the policy with an eye toward mounting challenges if elements of it contradict the current contract. As news of the strict policy spread, Vice President Mike Pence tweeted, "#Winning" along with an American flag and a screenshot of a story about the NFL's anthem policy. Athletes' behavior during the anthem and flag presentation became a national conversation and a political talking point after NFL players used the traditional opening of their games as a moment to protest police brutality and racism in America. That effort was led by former San Francisco 49er Colin Kaepernick, who took a knee during the anthem and who went from being a starting quarterback to being an unsigned free agent in the spring of 2017. Despite Kaepernick's absence from the game last season, NFL teams struggled to craft coherent responses to players' desires to highlight social issues and they also faced intense public scrutiny, including from President Trump, who condemned players who refused to stand and urged fans to boycott the NFL until teams quashed the protests. Saying that the new policy was meant to put the focus back on the game, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said on Thursday, "It was unfortunate that on-field protests created a false perception among many that thousands of NFL players were unpatriotic. This is not and was never the case." NFL team owners voted to adopt the policy and while the league says the changes "were unanimously approved by team owners who voted," it also notes that 49ers team owner Jed York abstained, at least in part because York wanted the players to be involved. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 05/23/18 3:08:11 PM #2:	The on-field protests have taken many forms, from players taking a knee to sitting on the bench as others stood on the sideline. In many cases, teams' players were split on the issue; in others, entire teams took a knee as in September of 2017, when Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones linked arms with his players and took a knee. But one month later, Jones threatened players, saying if they "disrespect the flag," they would be benched. The NFL's 32 teams can develop their own rules about the process, as long as they follow the new policy. "A club will be fined by the League if its personnel are on the field and do not stand and show respect for the flag and the Anthem," the NFL said. In addition, the commissioner "will impose appropriate discipline on league personnel who do not stand and show respect," the league said. Responses to the protests during the 2017 season ranged from dueling boycotts (from fans who don't like players protesting, and from others who don't like how teams treated Kaepernick); threats to strip the New Orleans Saints team of its tax breaks; and the decision by the founder of the Papa John's pizza chain, a longtime NFL advertiser, to step down as CEO after saying the NFL had hurt his business by not resolving what he called a "debacle." In recent months, Kaepernick has been pursuing a collusion case against the NFL, accusing teams of banding together to keep him from being employed in the league. This week, a report emerged that his attorneys' investigation found documents that backed up his claim that, as he neared 30 years old last year, he was good enough not only to play in the NFL, but to start. Eric Reid, who was the first player to kneel alongside Kaepernick as his teammate in San Francisco, says he's also being punished for that practice, which he continued last season. At 26, he has gone unsigned despite starting at safety for five years; earlier this month, Reid filed a grievance against the NFL and its teams. "We chose to kneel because it's a respectful gesture," Reid wrote in an editorial for The New York Times last fall. "I remember thinking our posture was like a flag flown at half-mast to mark a tragedy. It baffles me that our protest is still being misconstrued as disrespectful to the country, flag and military personnel." The NFL Players Association says that its members "have shown their patriotism through their social activism, their community service, in support of our military and law enforcement and yes, through their protests to raise awareness about the issues they care about." <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:901857820] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><quote>The on-field protests have taken many forms, from players taking a knee to sitting on the bench as others stood on the sideline. In many cases, teams' players were split on the issue; in others, entire teams took a knee as in September of 2017, when Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones linked arms with his players and took a knee. But one month later, Jones threatened players, saying if they "disrespect the flag," they would be benched. The NFL's 32 teams can develop their own rules about the process, as long as they follow the new policy. "A club will be fined by the League if its personnel are on the field and do not stand and show respect for the flag and the Anthem," the NFL said. In addition, the commissioner "will impose appropriate discipline on league personnel who do not stand and show respect," the league said. Responses to the protests during the 2017 season ranged from dueling boycotts (from fans who don't like players protesting, and from others who don't like how teams treated Kaepernick); threats to strip the New Orleans Saints team of its tax breaks; and the decision by the founder of the Papa John's pizza chain, a longtime NFL advertiser, to step down as CEO after saying the NFL had hurt his business by not resolving what he called a "debacle." In recent months, Kaepernick has been pursuing a collusion case against the NFL, accusing teams of banding together to keep him from being employed in the league. This week, a report emerged that his attorneys' investigation found documents that backed up his claim that, as he neared 30 years old last year, he was good enough not only to play in the NFL, but to start. Eric Reid, who was the first player to kneel alongside Kaepernick as his teammate in San Francisco, says he's also being punished for that practice, which he continued last season. At 26, he has gone unsigned despite starting at safety for five years; earlier this month, Reid filed a grievance against the NFL and its teams. "We chose to kneel because it's a respectful gesture," Reid wrote in an editorial for The New York Times last fall. "I remember thinking our posture was like a flag flown at half-mast to mark a tragedy. It baffles me that our protest is still being misconstrued as disrespectful to the country, flag and military personnel." The NFL Players Association says that its members "have shown their patriotism through their social activism, their community service, in support of our military and law enforcement and yes, through their protests to raise awareness about the issues they care about."</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 05/23/18 3:12:21 PM #3:	Yup, that's the best way to handle this situation. Nooothing bad at all. --- ImmortalityV, "I would like to kiss Icoyar to be honest in a non gay way though" <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:901858034] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>Yup, that's the best way to handle this situation. Nooothing bad at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 05/23/18 3:14:36 PM #4:	The thot-police gunna thot --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:901858164] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>The thot-police gunna thot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 05/23/18 3:31:37 PM #5:	arrest this girl, her hitler hairdo is making me feel ill --- Any fool with a microphone thinks he can tell you what he loves the most <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:901859066] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>arrest this girl, her hitler hairdo is making me feel ill</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 05/23/18 3:40:08 PM #6:	Thats fucking stupid. --- "I properly understand when a woman wants my dick and I can do whatever I want to them, and then do it." OmegaTomHank <cite>Cacciato posted [p:901859515] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>Thats fucking stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 05/23/18 3:42:54 PM #7:	in all honesty though, who the fuck cares? Oh no, million dollar athletes have to stand up during a song. Oh woooow black peoples lives are getting ruined because they cant stand. My job makes me do dumber shit than that. --- Any fool with a microphone thinks he can tell you what he loves the most <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:901859659] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>in all honesty though, who the fuck cares? Oh no, million dollar athletes have to stand up during a song. Oh woooow black peoples lives are getting ruined because they cant stand. My job makes me do dumber shit than that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Firewood18 05/23/18 3:49:41 PM #8:	I'll take a knee to that. --- don't try <cite>Firewood18 posted [p:901860012] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>I'll take a knee to that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knivesX2004 05/23/18 3:51:13 PM #9:	Jesus the conservative snowflakes really need their safe space don't they? <cite>knivesX2004 posted [p:901860092] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>Jesus the conservative snowflakes really need their safe space don't they?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 05/23/18 4:06:47 PM #10:	why do leftys always use snowflake wrong? its funny. --- Any fool with a microphone thinks he can tell you what he loves the most <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:901860891] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>why do leftys always use snowflake wrong? its funny.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dainkinkaide 05/23/18 4:07:40 PM #11:	If the club is fined, who pays that fine? --- The problem with the internet today is that it's filled with entire generations that did not grow up with the great wisdom of the Wyld Stallyns. <cite>dainkinkaide posted [p:901860943] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>If the club is fined, who pays that fine?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BADoglick 05/23/18 4:08:44 PM #12:	Sky cloth demands promises --- BADoglick to the Max! <cite>BADoglick posted [p:901860997] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>Sky cloth demands promises</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 05/23/18 4:25:07 PM #13:	dainkinkaide posted... If the club is fined, who pays that fine? The team would likely pass the cost down onto the player. --- "I properly understand when a woman wants my dick and I can do whatever I want to them, and then do it." OmegaTomHank <cite>Cacciato posted [p:901861901] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>dainkinkaide posted...</cite> <quote>If the club is fined, who pays that fine?</quote> The team would likely pass the cost down onto the player.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThickDaddy 05/23/18 5:02:48 PM #14:	It's a smart move business-wise. The NFL lost a shit ton of money last season as thousands of viewers stopped watching because they didn't want football to be politicised. <cite>ThickDaddy posted [p:901864084] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>It's a smart move business-wise. The NFL lost a shit ton of money last season as thousands of viewers stopped watching because they didn't want football to be politicised.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/23/18 5:04:22 PM #15:	ThickDaddy posted... they didn't want football to be politicised. Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:901864171] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>they didn't want football to be politicised.</quote> Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slacker03150 05/23/18 5:06:27 PM #16:	ThickDaddy posted... It's a smart move business-wise. The NFL lost a shit ton of money last season as thousands of viewers stopped watching because they didn't want football to be politicised. I only personally know 3 people who stopped and all of them stopped because of the NFL talking bad about the kneelers, but they supported the kneelers themselves. 2 of the 3 were veterans. --- I am awesome and so are you. Lenny gone but not forgotten. - 12/10/2015 <cite>slacker03150 posted [p:901864289] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>It's a smart move business-wise. The NFL lost a shit ton of money last season as thousands of viewers stopped watching because they didn't want football to be politicised.</quote> I only personally know 3 people who stopped and all of them stopped because of the NFL talking bad about the kneelers, but they supported the kneelers themselves. 2 of the 3 were veterans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThickDaddy 05/23/18 5:06:30 PM #17:	adjl posted... ThickDaddy posted... they didn't want football to be politicised. Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history. Care to elaborate on this? I clearly don't know shit about history. <cite>ThickDaddy posted [p:901864290] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>they didn't want football to be politicised.</quote> Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history.</quote> Care to elaborate on this? I clearly don't know shit about history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThickDaddy 05/23/18 5:07:55 PM #18:	slacker03150 posted... ThickDaddy posted... It's a smart move business-wise. The NFL lost a shit ton of money last season as thousands of viewers stopped watching because they didn't want football to be politicised. I only personally know 3 people who stopped and all of them stopped because of the NFL talking bad about the kneelers, but they supported the kneelers themselves. 2 of the 3 were veterans. It was widely reported that it was the least viewed season in recent history. <cite>ThickDaddy posted [p:901864376] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>slacker03150 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>It's a smart move business-wise. The NFL lost a shit ton of money last season as thousands of viewers stopped watching because they didn't want football to be politicised.</quote> I only personally know 3 people who stopped and all of them stopped because of the NFL talking bad about the kneelers, but they supported the kneelers themselves. 2 of the 3 were veterans.</quote> It was widely reported that it was the least viewed season in recent history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 05/23/18 5:09:19 PM #19:	ThickDaddy posted... adjl posted... ThickDaddy posted... they didn't want football to be politicised. Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history. Care to elaborate on this? I clearly don't know shit about history. Talking our of his ass. The politicizing of sports, at least in America, is really recent. Social media plays a big role in that. MLB still isn't very political though either. Neither is the NHL or MLS. It's mostly just NBA and NFL <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:901864455] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>they didn't want football to be politicised.</quote> Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history.</quote> Care to elaborate on this? I clearly don't know shit about history.</quote> Talking our of his ass. The politicizing of sports, at least in America, is really recent. Social media plays a big role in that. MLB still isn't very political though either. Neither is the NHL or MLS. It's mostly just NBA and NFL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knivesX2004 05/23/18 5:10:57 PM #20:	DirtBasedSoap posted... why do leftys always use snowflake wrong? its funny. Why do triggered snowflakes always get triggered when people post triggering things? <cite>knivesX2004 posted [p:901864554] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirtBasedSoap posted...</cite> <quote>why do leftys always use snowflake wrong? its funny.</quote> Why do triggered snowflakes always get triggered when people post triggering things?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 05/23/18 5:16:59 PM #21:	Cacciato posted... dainkinkaide posted... If the club is fined, who pays that fine? The team would likely pass the cost down onto the player. To add onto this the Jets owner has come out and said he wont punish players for protesting. --- "I properly understand when a woman wants my dick and I can do whatever I want to them, and then do it." OmegaTomHank <cite>Cacciato posted [p:901864913] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cacciato posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dainkinkaide posted...</cite> <quote>If the club is fined, who pays that fine?</quote> The team would likely pass the cost down onto the player.</quote> To add onto this the Jets owner has come out and said he wont punish players for protesting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 05/23/18 5:19:47 PM #22:	OhhhJa posted... Talking our of his ass. The politicizing of sports, at least in America, is really recent. Complete bullshit. Professional sports have been political for a very long time. https://www.athleticsnation.com/2017/9/25/16362848/baseball-politics-bruce-maxwell-kneel-protest-jackie-robinson It only seems like it's recent if you ignore the many historic instances of athletes using what platforms they had to be political --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:901865067] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Talking our of his ass. The politicizing of sports, at least in America, is really recent.</quote> Complete bullshit. Professional sports have been political for a very long time. https://www.athleticsnation.com/2017/9/25/16362848/baseball-politics-bruce-maxwell-kneel-protest-jackie-robinson It only seems like it's recent if you ignore the many historic instances of athletes using what platforms they had to be political</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/23/18 5:25:06 PM #23:	OhhhJa posted... MLB still isn't very political though either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Robinson It's almost like something that's viewed by tens of millions of people on a regular basis makes for an effective platform to use in pushing to have one's message heard. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:901865372] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>MLB still isn't very political though either.</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Robinson It's almost like something that's viewed by tens of millions of people on a regular basis makes for an effective platform to use in pushing to have one's message heard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 05/23/18 5:25:29 PM #24:	DirtBasedSoap posted... why do leftys always use snowflake wrong? its funny. It's basically like, "LMAO now you're complaining about people being whiny babies about something so you're the whiner now, snowflake LOL!" <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:901865403] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirtBasedSoap posted...</cite> <quote>why do leftys always use snowflake wrong? its funny.</quote> It's basically like, "LMAO now you're complaining about people being whiny babies about something so you're the whiner now, snowflake LOL!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThickDaddy 05/23/18 5:27:29 PM #25:	You made a general sweeping statment encompassing all of sports throughout all of time. Of course there have been specific instances at one time or another. <cite>ThickDaddy posted [p:901865508] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>You made a general sweeping statment encompassing all of sports throughout all of time. Of course there have been specific instances at one time or another.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/23/18 5:27:41 PM #26:	OhhhJa posted... DirtBasedSoap posted... why do leftys always use snowflake wrong? its funny. It's basically like, "LMAO now you're complaining about people being whiny babies about something so you're the whiner now, snowflake LOL!" I'm pretty sure it's a direct response to "snowflake" being the go-to insult for conservatives any time a liberal expresses any sort of dissenting opinion. Is it perfectly accurate? It never has been. For now, just interpret it as "how cute, you think your opinion matters" and respond accordingly. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:901865519] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DirtBasedSoap posted...</cite> <quote>why do leftys always use snowflake wrong? its funny.</quote> It's basically like, "LMAO now you're complaining about people being whiny babies about something so you're the whiner now, snowflake LOL!"</quote> I'm pretty sure it's a direct response to "snowflake" being the go-to insult for conservatives any time a liberal expresses any sort of dissenting opinion. Is it perfectly accurate? It never has been. For now, just interpret it as "how cute, you think your opinion matters" and respond accordingly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 05/23/18 5:36:32 PM #27:	ThickDaddy posted... You made a general sweeping statment encompassing all of sports throughout all of time. Of course there have been specific instances at one time or another. Yeah, it's basically an isolated instance at a time when the civil rights movement was at it's peak. That doesnt mean sports have always been highly politicized <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:901866044] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>You made a general sweeping statment encompassing all of sports throughout all of time. Of course there have been specific instances at one time or another.</quote> Yeah, it's basically an isolated instance at a time when the civil rights movement was at it's peak. That doesnt mean sports have always been highly politicized</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PuddingBoy 05/23/18 5:43:15 PM #28:	lmao television ratings for almost all pro sports are down simply because less people are watching sports through traditional tv. Everything is the "lowest watched" almost every year now. The only sport that feels it less than others is the NBA but even their numbers are trending downward overall. It's not rocket science to figure out that almost all television ratings go down over time. --- 3DS Friend Code: 3308-5843-0863 Town: Virginia <cite>PuddingBoy posted [p:901866408] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>lmao television ratings for almost all pro sports are down simply because less people are watching sports through traditional tv. Everything is the "lowest watched" almost every year now. The only sport that feels it less than others is the NBA but even their numbers are trending downward overall. It's not rocket science to figure out that almost all television ratings go down over time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 05/23/18 5:45:48 PM #29:	OhhhJa posted... ThickDaddy posted... You made a general sweeping statment encompassing all of sports throughout all of time. Of course there have been specific instances at one time or another. Yeah, it's basically an isolated instance at a time when the civil rights movement was at it's peak. That doesnt mean sports have always been highly politicized Remember when people wanted the government to interfere with the MLB and baseball records because of steroids? All the Congressional hearings? Because think about the children. It doesn't get any more political than that... Decades ago. --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:901866556] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>You made a general sweeping statment encompassing all of sports throughout all of time. Of course there have been specific instances at one time or another.</quote> Yeah, it's basically an isolated instance at a time when the civil rights movement was at it's peak. That doesnt mean sports have always been highly politicized</quote> Remember when people wanted the government to interfere with the MLB and baseball records because of steroids? All the Congressional hearings? Because think about the children. It doesn't get any more political than that... Decades ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 05/23/18 5:46:31 PM #30:	People dont want the nfl or sports in general to be politicized but probably watch the olympics without saying a word. Us boycotting moscow, russia boycotting la, two koreas marching as one...highly political. <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:901866599] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>People dont want the nfl or sports in general to be politicized but probably watch the olympics without saying a word. Us boycotting moscow, russia boycotting la, two koreas marching as one...highly political.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 05/23/18 5:47:30 PM #31:	What if they're foreign free agents? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:901866658] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>What if they're foreign free agents?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 05/23/18 5:55:46 PM #32:	Lokarin posted... What if they're foreign free agents? So, two players? --- "I properly understand when a woman wants my dick and I can do whatever I want to them, and then do it." OmegaTomHank <cite>Cacciato posted [p:901867139] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>What if they're foreign free agents?</quote> So, two players?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThickDaddy 05/23/18 5:56:47 PM #33:	Doctor Foxx posted... OhhhJa posted... ThickDaddy posted... You made a general sweeping statment encompassing all of sports throughout all of time. Of course there have been specific instances at one time or another. Yeah, it's basically an isolated instance at a time when the civil rights movement was at it's peak. That doesnt mean sports have always been highly politicized Remember when people wanted the government to interfere with the MLB and baseball records because of steroids? All the Congressional hearings? Because think about the children. It doesn't get any more political than that... Decades ago. Another specific instance. His original statement was that sports are political by nature. I'm really not sure what you guys are trying to argue against. Nothing in my first post is controversial. It was heavily reported that the politics is why ratings were low. <cite>ThickDaddy posted [p:901867205] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>You made a general sweeping statment encompassing all of sports throughout all of time. Of course there have been specific instances at one time or another.</quote> Yeah, it's basically an isolated instance at a time when the civil rights movement was at it's peak. That doesnt mean sports have always been highly politicized</quote> Remember when people wanted the government to interfere with the MLB and baseball records because of steroids? All the Congressional hearings? Because think about the children. It doesn't get any more political than that... Decades ago.</quote> Another specific instance. His original statement was that sports are political by nature. I'm really not sure what you guys are trying to argue against. Nothing in my first post is controversial. It was heavily reported that the politics is why ratings were low.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PuddingBoy 05/23/18 6:01:17 PM #34:	ThickDaddy posted... Doctor Foxx posted... OhhhJa posted... ThickDaddy posted... You made a general sweeping statment encompassing all of sports throughout all of time. Of course there have been specific instances at one time or another. Yeah, it's basically an isolated instance at a time when the civil rights movement was at it's peak. That doesnt mean sports have always been highly politicized Remember when people wanted the government to interfere with the MLB and baseball records because of steroids? All the Congressional hearings? Because think about the children. It doesn't get any more political than that... Decades ago. Another specific instance. His original statement was that sports are political by nature. I'm really not sure what you guys are trying to argue against. Nothing in my first post is controversial. It was heavily reported that the politics is why ratings were low. What will be your reasoning when the ratings next year are lower than this seasons? --- 3DS Friend Code: 3308-5843-0863 Town: Virginia <cite>PuddingBoy posted [p:901867441] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>You made a general sweeping statment encompassing all of sports throughout all of time. Of course there have been specific instances at one time or another.</quote> Yeah, it's basically an isolated instance at a time when the civil rights movement was at it's peak. That doesnt mean sports have always been highly politicized</quote> Remember when people wanted the government to interfere with the MLB and baseball records because of steroids? All the Congressional hearings? Because think about the children. It doesn't get any more political than that... Decades ago.</quote> Another specific instance. His original statement was that sports are political by nature. I'm really not sure what you guys are trying to argue against. Nothing in my first post is controversial. It was heavily reported that the politics is why ratings were low.</quote> What will be your reasoning when the ratings next year are lower than this seasons?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/23/18 6:02:39 PM #35:	ThickDaddy posted... His original statement was that sports are political by nature. No, my original statement was that sports make a good political platform. And they do, just like anything else with a big, captive audience. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:901867504] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>His original statement was that sports are political by nature.</quote> No, my original statement was that sports make a good political platform. And they do, just like anything else with a big, captive audience.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThickDaddy 05/23/18 6:03:56 PM #36:	adjl posted... ThickDaddy posted... His original statement was that sports are political by nature. No, my original statement was that sports make a good political platform. And they do, just like anything else with a big, captive audience. Yeah I get that that's your point. Probably should've worded it differently. <cite>ThickDaddy posted [p:901867576] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>His original statement was that sports are political by nature.</quote> No, my original statement was that sports make a good political platform. And they do, just like anything else with a big, captive audience.</quote> Yeah I get that that's your point. Probably should've worded it differently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThickDaddy 05/23/18 6:05:57 PM #37:	PuddingBoy posted... What will be your reasoning when the ratings next year are lower than this seasons? I'm unclear of what you're getting at. I simply stated that that was the recorded statistics. <cite>ThickDaddy posted [p:901867701] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>PuddingBoy posted...</cite> <quote>What will be your reasoning when the ratings next year are lower than this seasons?</quote> I'm unclear of what you're getting at. I simply stated that that was the recorded statistics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 05/23/18 6:06:51 PM #38:	ThickDaddy posted... Doctor Foxx posted... OhhhJa posted... ThickDaddy posted... You made a general sweeping statment encompassing all of sports throughout all of time. Of course there have been specific instances at one time or another. Yeah, it's basically an isolated instance at a time when the civil rights movement was at it's peak. That doesnt mean sports have always been highly politicized Remember when people wanted the government to interfere with the MLB and baseball records because of steroids? All the Congressional hearings? Because think about the children. It doesn't get any more political than that... Decades ago. Another specific instance. His original statement was that sports are political by nature. I'm really not sure what you guys are trying to argue against. Nothing in my first post is controversial. It was heavily reported that the politics is why ratings were low. Yeah the way he made it sound was that sports have always been highly politicised. As of now, I've been given one isolated instance outside of the civil rights movement throughout all of sports history. But really up until the last few years, we haven't had this steady stream of political spectacles <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:901867760] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>You made a general sweeping statment encompassing all of sports throughout all of time. Of course there have been specific instances at one time or another.</quote> Yeah, it's basically an isolated instance at a time when the civil rights movement was at it's peak. That doesnt mean sports have always been highly politicized</quote> Remember when people wanted the government to interfere with the MLB and baseball records because of steroids? All the Congressional hearings? Because think about the children. It doesn't get any more political than that... Decades ago.</quote> Another specific instance. His original statement was that sports are political by nature. I'm really not sure what you guys are trying to argue against. Nothing in my first post is controversial. It was heavily reported that the politics is why ratings were low.</quote> Yeah the way he made it sound was that sports have always been highly politicised. As of now, I've been given one isolated instance outside of the civil rights movement throughout all of sports history. But really up until the last few years, we haven't had this steady stream of political spectacles</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 05/23/18 6:08:55 PM #39:	adjl posted... ThickDaddy posted... His original statement was that sports are political by nature. No, my original statement was that sports make a good political platform. And they do, just like anything else with a big, captive audience. adjl posted... Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history. No... no it was not <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:901867868] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>His original statement was that sports are political by nature.</quote> No, my original statement was that sports make a good political platform. And they do, just like anything else with a big, captive audience.</quote> <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history.</quote> No... no it was not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/23/18 6:10:43 PM #40:	OhhhJa posted... As of now, I've been given one isolated instance outside of the civil rights movement throughout all of sports history. "Outside of the most significant movement for American social and political change since the Civil War." That's quite the exclusion there, dude. That, and I think you might have missed this post if you think there's only been one other example: argonautweakend posted... People dont want the nfl or sports in general to be politicized but probably watch the olympics without saying a word. Us boycotting moscow, russia boycotting la, two koreas marching as one...highly political. There's ample history of politicizing the Olympics even beyond those examples. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:901867965] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>As of now, I've been given one isolated instance outside of the civil rights movement throughout all of sports history.</quote> "Outside of the most significant movement for American social and political change since the Civil War." That's quite the exclusion there, dude. That, and I think you might have missed this post if you think there's only been one other example: <cite>argonautweakend posted...</cite> <quote>People dont want the nfl or sports in general to be politicized but probably watch the olympics without saying a word. Us boycotting moscow, russia boycotting la, two koreas marching as one...highly political.</quote> There's ample history of politicizing the Olympics even beyond those examples.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/23/18 6:12:14 PM #41:	OhhhJa posted... adjl posted... ThickDaddy posted... His original statement was that sports are political by nature. No, my original statement was that sports make a good political platform. And they do, just like anything else with a big, captive audience. adjl posted... Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history. No... no it was not I felt that "and that platform has been used accordingly" was implicit enough to not bother editing the post once I realized I should perhaps have added it. Should I go back and fix it to help you understand? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:901868031] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>His original statement was that sports are political by nature.</quote> No, my original statement was that sports make a good political platform. And they do, just like anything else with a big, captive audience.</quote> <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history.</quote> No... no it was not</quote> I felt that "and that platform has been used accordingly" was implicit enough to not bother editing the post once I realized I should perhaps have added it. Should I go back and fix it to help you understand?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
beefcake71090 05/23/18 6:12:23 PM #42:	DirtBasedSoap posted... arrest this girl, her hitler hairdo is making me feel ill Excellent reference. In reference to this NFL business, I think this is a satisfactory approach to the issue at hand. As one who always sat for the Pledge of Allegiance in school, allowing a reprieve from participation in the National Anthem is perfectly conciliatory for people who don't want to participate. The NFL is a business of sorts, after all. Engaging in mass patriotic-compliance while giving those who don't want to participate a way out is good enough, in my book. Honestly, does the NFL as an organization owe it to any of its employees to support protest alongside their festivities? I don't think so. GG, NFL. GG. --- I could be there when you land. <cite>beefcake71090 posted [p:901868038] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirtBasedSoap posted...</cite> <quote>arrest this girl, her hitler hairdo is making me feel ill</quote> Excellent reference. In reference to this NFL business, I think this is a satisfactory approach to the issue at hand. As one who always sat for the Pledge of Allegiance in school, allowing a reprieve from participation in the National Anthem is perfectly conciliatory for people who don't want to participate. The NFL is a business of sorts, after all. Engaging in mass patriotic-compliance while giving those who don't want to participate a way out is good enough, in my book. Honestly, does the NFL as an organization owe it to any of its employees to support protest alongside their festivities? I don't think so. GG, NFL. GG.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 05/23/18 6:14:31 PM #43:	adjl posted... OhhhJa posted... adjl posted... ThickDaddy posted... His original statement was that sports are political by nature. No, my original statement was that sports make a good political platform. And they do, just like anything else with a big, captive audience. adjl posted... Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history. No... no it was not I felt that "and that platform has been used accordingly" was implicit enough to not bother editing the post once I realized I should perhaps have added it. Should I go back and fix it to help you understand? You could just... you know... not backpedal <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:901868151] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>His original statement was that sports are political by nature.</quote> No, my original statement was that sports make a good political platform. And they do, just like anything else with a big, captive audience.</quote> <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history.</quote> No... no it was not</quote> I felt that "and that platform has been used accordingly" was implicit enough to not bother editing the post once I realized I should perhaps have added it. Should I go back and fix it to help you understand?</quote> You could just... you know... not backpedal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PuddingBoy 05/23/18 6:15:04 PM #44:	ThickDaddy posted... PuddingBoy posted... What will be your reasoning when the ratings next year are lower than this seasons? I'm unclear of what you're getting at. I simply stated that that was the recorded statistics. It was reported that ratings were lower than the year before because they were. Saying that political issues caused the slide is guesswork. Ratings slide every single year but this is the first year in recent memory to have a big political uproar alongside it. So why did the ratings go down other years if nothing political was going on? Why will the ratings be down this year if the anthem protest blows over? --- 3DS Friend Code: 3308-5843-0863 Town: Virginia <cite>PuddingBoy posted [p:901868179] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PuddingBoy posted...</cite> <quote>What will be your reasoning when the ratings next year are lower than this seasons?</quote> I'm unclear of what you're getting at. I simply stated that that was the recorded statistics.</quote> It was reported that ratings were lower than the year before because they were. Saying that political issues caused the slide is guesswork. Ratings slide every single year but this is the first year in recent memory to have a big political uproar alongside it. So why did the ratings go down other years if nothing political was going on? Why will the ratings be down this year if the anthem protest blows over?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/23/18 6:18:26 PM #45:	OhhhJa posted... adjl posted... OhhhJa posted... adjl posted... ThickDaddy posted... His original statement was that sports are political by nature. No, my original statement was that sports make a good political platform. And they do, just like anything else with a big, captive audience. adjl posted... Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history. No... no it was not I felt that "and that platform has been used accordingly" was implicit enough to not bother editing the post once I realized I should perhaps have added it. Should I go back and fix it to help you understand? You could just... you know... not backpedal The actual term is "elaborating." --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:901868380] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>His original statement was that sports are political by nature.</quote> No, my original statement was that sports make a good political platform. And they do, just like anything else with a big, captive audience.</quote> <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history.</quote> No... no it was not</quote> I felt that "and that platform has been used accordingly" was implicit enough to not bother editing the post once I realized I should perhaps have added it. Should I go back and fix it to help you understand?</quote> You could just... you know... not backpedal</quote> The actual term is "elaborating."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThickDaddy 05/23/18 6:22:20 PM #46:	PuddingBoy posted... ThickDaddy posted... PuddingBoy posted... What will be your reasoning when the ratings next year are lower than this seasons? I'm unclear of what you're getting at. I simply stated that that was the recorded statistics. It was reported that ratings were lower than the year before because they were. Saying that political issues caused the slide is guesswork. Ratings slide every single year but this is the first year in recent memory to have a big political uproar alongside it. So why did the ratings go down other years if nothing political was going on? Why will the ratings be down this year if the anthem protest blows over? It's not just guesswork. There were polls conducted where people said specifically that the kneeling is why they have tuned out this year. Again this is not an opinion piece this is fact that has been reported on extensively. <cite>ThickDaddy posted [p:901868594] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>PuddingBoy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PuddingBoy posted...</cite> <quote>What will be your reasoning when the ratings next year are lower than this seasons?</quote> I'm unclear of what you're getting at. I simply stated that that was the recorded statistics.</quote> It was reported that ratings were lower than the year before because they were. Saying that political issues caused the slide is guesswork. Ratings slide every single year but this is the first year in recent memory to have a big political uproar alongside it. So why did the ratings go down other years if nothing political was going on? Why will the ratings be down this year if the anthem protest blows over?</quote> It's not just guesswork. There were polls conducted where people said specifically that the kneeling is why they have tuned out this year. Again this is not an opinion piece this is fact that has been reported on extensively.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 05/23/18 6:26:19 PM #47:	adjl posted... OhhhJa posted... adjl posted... OhhhJa posted... adjl posted... ThickDaddy posted... His original statement was that sports are political by nature. No, my original statement was that sports make a good political platform. And they do, just like anything else with a big, captive audience. adjl posted... Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history. No... no it was not I felt that "and that platform has been used accordingly" was implicit enough to not bother editing the post once I realized I should perhaps have added it. Should I go back and fix it to help you understand? You could just... you know... not backpedal The actual term is "elaborating." Well, you should've elaborated in that post instead of saying your original post was something that it wasn't <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:901868809] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThickDaddy posted...</cite> <quote>His original statement was that sports are political by nature.</quote> No, my original statement was that sports make a good political platform. And they do, just like anything else with a big, captive audience.</quote> <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone who thinks sports have ever not been political doesn't know ** about history.</quote> No... no it was not</quote> I felt that "and that platform has been used accordingly" was implicit enough to not bother editing the post once I realized I should perhaps have added it. Should I go back and fix it to help you understand?</quote> You could just... you know... not backpedal</quote> The actual term is "elaborating."</quote> Well, you should've elaborated in that post instead of saying your original post was something that it wasn't</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 05/23/18 6:35:40 PM #48:	More thought policing from the cuck left --- https://imgur.com/WeQQNi7 <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:901869361] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>More thought policing from the cuck left</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 05/23/18 7:10:14 PM #49:	Blightzkrieg posted... More thought policing from the cuck left I know you're joking so I'll say this because this is the argument the left always makes when someone on the right is angry about some far right guy getting fired for saying some stupid shit. It's a business and they're allowed to censor whatever they want. End of story <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:901871087] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blightzkrieg posted...</cite> <quote>More thought policing from the cuck left</quote> I know you're joking so I'll say this because this is the argument the left always makes when someone on the right is angry about some far right guy getting fired for saying some stupid shit. It's a business and they're allowed to censor whatever they want. End of story</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 05/23/18 7:30:08 PM #50:	People are forgetting that these people sign contracts that prohibit certain behaviors to begin with. It's not like they just choose to show up every Sunday because they feel like it and suddenly are being victimized for what is now a violation of the terms. <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:901872233] in NFL: All N... [t:76636335]...</cite> <quote>People are forgetting that these people sign contracts that prohibit certain behaviors to begin with. It's not like they just choose to show up every Sunday because they feel like it and suddenly are being victimized for what is now a violation of the terms.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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