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CyricZ 05/23/18 2:45:04 PM #102: |
KamenRiderBlade posted...
It's tradition and it's fine the way it is. This is used to justify many practices. As I alluded to earlier, the motivation for even having the anthem in place was to drum up recruitment in the military in wartime. The "tradition" was very political in nature as it was meant to help the war effort. KamenRiderBlade posted... Every citizen of their respective country should be Nationalistic about their country. I'm sure North Korea heartily agrees. I can be quite sure of that because I'm aware of there being consequences otherwise. Or to use a less drastic approach: it's my opinion that countries should act in a way that motivates their citizens to respect them, not have those in power demand that respect through ceremony. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 05/23/18 2:45:49 PM #103: |
CyricZ posted...
Or to use a less drastic approach: it's my opinion that countries should act in a way that motivates their citizens to respect them, not have those in power demand that respect through ceremony. Yup. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 05/23/18 2:46:59 PM #104: |
CyricZ posted...
Or to use a less drastic approach: it's my opinion that countries should act in a way that motivates their citizens to respect them, not have those in power demand that respect through ceremony.Guess what, at most American Sports events and other's in non-Totalitarian countries; the VAST majority volunteer to stand up. Most people have no issues with it because they respect their country. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 05/23/18 2:48:01 PM #107: |
CyricZ posted...
As I alluded to earlier, the motivation for even having the anthem in place was to drum up recruitment in the military in wartime. The "tradition" was very political in nature as it was meant to help the war effort.And now it's just tradition for traditions sake. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 05/23/18 2:48:14 PM #108: |
Dusk_ posted...
Good. Maybe if they were kneeling for a good cause things would be different. And what make you think that it's not? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 05/23/18 2:48:33 PM #109: |
KamenRiderBlade posted...
CyricZ posted...As I alluded to earlier, the motivation for even having the anthem in place was to drum up recruitment in the military in wartime. The "tradition" was very political in nature as it was meant to help the war effort.And now it's just tradition for traditions sake. Tradition is a terrible reason to justify anything. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 05/23/18 2:49:15 PM #110: |
KamenRiderBlade posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...Honest question, how many people of color do you know personally? Like...to think minority sports involvement and social justice dont go hand in hand...its baffling in its ignoranceProbably about a dozen. Most of the minority involvement is to help the poor and give kids a focus to work towards in the future. Okay, Jason whitlock --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/23/18 2:49:22 PM #111: |
This is the dumbest issue ever. I don't give a fuck either way about it.
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KamenRiderBlade 05/23/18 2:49:32 PM #112: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Tradition is a terrible reason to justify anything.As opposed to what? Just changing things for the sake of change? --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 05/23/18 2:49:47 PM #113: |
Bullet_Wing posted...
I never understood why this was such a big deal Because Republicans are the snowflakes they claim everyone else is. Simple really. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VectorChaos 05/23/18 2:50:44 PM #114: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
VectorChaos posted...Freedom of speech but not from consequences. I do. But here we are regardless. Don't act like you don't know exactly who wanted this. --- "Donald Trump has the most presidential penis of all time" - DifferentialEquation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 05/23/18 2:50:55 PM #115: |
KamenRiderBlade posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...Tradition is a terrible reason to justify anything.As opposed to what? You know, there's more than two extremes here, right? --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePrinceFish 05/23/18 2:51:20 PM #116: |
Glad I can start watching the NFL again.
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MedzXVIII 05/23/18 2:51:52 PM #117: |
The NFL is 70% black. Very white
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KamenRiderBlade 05/23/18 2:52:24 PM #119: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
You know, there's more than two extremes here, right?Yeah, and many people who watch the NFL don't care for the political meaning behind the actions Kaepernick and his fellow cohorts. And it's hurting the NFL's bottom line. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 05/23/18 2:52:26 PM #120: |
Sayoria posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...I guess now the overpaid athletes will have to find a new way to address their issues, preferably one that actually does something other than piss people off. They should just protest outside of work like normal people do. Don't try to stir things up on company time. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 05/23/18 2:52:55 PM #121: |
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Most people have no issues with it because they respect their country. Most people have no issues with it because it's a learned condition drummed into them. I didn't have a problem with reciting the Pledge of Allegiance every morning because it was drummed into me as something I "had to do". Wasn't even until the end of elementary school that I learned there were people who took exception to that. Of course, those were for religious reasons that were drummed into them. Point is, while tradition may promote community and local pride, doesn't mean it's self-justifying. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePrinceFish 05/23/18 2:53:11 PM #122: |
Bullet_Wing posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...Glad I can start watching the NFL again. Tell me more about how I feel about football. I love to learn about myself from some fruit online. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 05/23/18 2:54:34 PM #123: |
CyricZ posted...
Most people have no issues with it because it's a learned condition drummed into them.And I do the "Pledge of Allegiance" at events because I want to, not because of conditioning. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JfAtS1O3N 05/23/18 2:54:57 PM #124: |
If libs are pissed off about the NFL doing this, do what the conservatives did: stop watching.
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CyricZ 05/23/18 2:57:11 PM #127: |
Football can go hang for all I care. I'm just caring about the freedoms of the American worker and the worrying precedent of enforced patriotism.
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HBOSS 05/23/18 2:57:39 PM #128: |
any word yet on the actions the nfl players association?
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ThePrinceFish 05/23/18 2:58:09 PM #129: |
CyricZ posted...
Football can go hang for all I care. I'm just caring about the freedoms of the American worker and the worrying precedent of enforced patriotism. The freedoms of the American worker do not include activism during your job. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 05/23/18 2:59:13 PM #130: |
Bullet_Wing posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...Bullet_Wing posted...ThePrinceFish posted...Glad I can start watching the NFL again. I hope now you learned that people like him are even worse snowflakes then SJWs. Everything offends them even something as inoffensive as kneeling during the anthem. --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaBreakfast 05/23/18 2:59:31 PM #131: |
this is honestly one of the most pathetic things i have ever seen
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NinjaBreakfast 05/23/18 2:59:45 PM #132: |
all the 'muh freeze peach!!!' guys are pathetic for supporting this
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voldothegr8 05/23/18 2:59:54 PM #133: |
HBOSS posted...
any word yet on the actions the nfl players association? The NFL chose to not consult the union in the development of this new "policy." NFL players have shown their patriotism through their social activism, their community service, in support of our military and law enforcement and yes, through their protests to raise awareness about the issues they care about. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 4 (2) | THE Ohio State: 11-2 | Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 05/23/18 3:00:04 PM #134: |
Gotta keep that DoD money flowing
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GiftedACIII 05/23/18 3:00:29 PM #135: |
So the official pastime of America is officially anti-freedom, hilarious.
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ThePrinceFish 05/23/18 3:00:31 PM #136: |
NinjaBreakfast posted...
all the 'muh freeze peach!!!' guys are pathetic for supporting this At least you've made it clear that you don't understand the First Amendment. Thanks for playing. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaBreakfast 05/23/18 3:00:36 PM #137: |
wild how americans want to literally fuck their flag and anthem
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KingCrabCake 05/23/18 3:00:53 PM #138: |
Fair
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Intro2Logic 05/23/18 3:01:13 PM #139: |
America's bosses pose a bigger threat to freedom of speech than any college student
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Bishop9800 05/23/18 3:01:15 PM #140: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Gotta keep that DoD money flowing This ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 05/23/18 3:01:18 PM #141: |
Capn Circus posted...
Sayoria posted...lightwarrior78 posted...I guess now the overpaid athletes will have to find a new way to address their issues, preferably one that actually does something other than piss people off. The thing is though, if I went to work this Saturday and my boss told me I had to stand for the National Anthem before every work day, I'd laugh and not do it and just do my work. There's really no reason to enforce it.This isn't a thing about kneeling. The reason it bothers me so much is that there is a precedent that really reflects this, and that is WVBoE VS Barnette. Sure, it's not the same, but you cannot simply force someone to stand up or against values they don't believe in or stand for. This is why I am on the side of the baker with the gay cake. He offered them options and they had many. Here, it's like a gun being held to one's head. It isn't a kneeling thing. I am worried just how far something like this would go. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 05/23/18 3:01:57 PM #142: |
So many posters dont understand the 1st amendment. Lmao and they prolly voted too smh
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ThePrinceFish 05/23/18 3:02:08 PM #143: |
Sayoria posted...
Capn Circus posted...Sayoria posted...lightwarrior78 posted...I guess now the overpaid athletes will have to find a new way to address their issues, preferably one that actually does something other than piss people off. And they have the option to stay in the locker room until the anthem is over. This enforced patriotism nonsense is hilarious. Cry me a fucking river. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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muchdran 05/23/18 3:02:10 PM #144: |
CommonStar posted...
The CEOs made this decision without talking with the player union. I'd like to imagine that a majority of the minority players would boycott this, but they probably won't. Yeah Kaepernick sucks --- If liberals didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have standards at all. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 05/23/18 3:02:13 PM #145: |
NinjaBreakfast posted...
wild how americans want to literally fuck their flag and anthemOnly the Leftists. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 05/23/18 3:02:19 PM #146: |
The majority of NFL fans don't want to see them kneeling for the anthem. It doesn't take a genius to figure out the NFL doesn't want to scare away their hardcore fanbase, here.
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MedzXVIII 05/23/18 3:02:38 PM #147: |
Caution999 posted...
The majority of NFL fans don't want to see them kneeling for the anthem. It doesn't take a genius to figure out the NFL doesn't want to scare away their hardcore fanbase, here. --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 05/23/18 3:02:43 PM #148: |
KingCrabCake posted...
So many posters dont understand the 1st amendment. Lmao and they prolly voted too smh Then please, explain it to us....... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 05/23/18 3:03:08 PM #149: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Fair A few years ago, they didn't even televise the anthem. The media loves to create controversy and the NFL doesn't give a rat's ass about respecting muh country. They just don't want to lose their government money. That propaganda machine pays well. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 05/23/18 3:04:10 PM #150: |
ThePrinceFish posted...
Sayoria posted...Capn Circus posted...Sayoria posted...lightwarrior78 posted...I guess now the overpaid athletes will have to find a new way to address their issues, preferably one that actually does something other than piss people off. And I hope they do. If I was a player, I would. Even if I was still standing for the Anthem, this ruling would flip me over. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaBreakfast 05/23/18 3:04:23 PM #151: |
*person suffers consequences in private capacity from overt racism*
"b-b-b-buh muh freeze peach ;_;" *NFL bans kneeling because americans want to fuck a flag* "lol what's wrong kiddo, don't understand the first amendment?" hey, I'm laughing here --- https://imgur.com/nGZeEqw Do you really think you can beat me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePrinceFish 05/23/18 3:04:41 PM #152: |
Sayoria posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...Sayoria posted...Capn Circus posted...Sayoria posted...lightwarrior78 posted...I guess now the overpaid athletes will have to find a new way to address their issues, preferably one that actually does something other than piss people off. Congratulations to you. You're not and you don't matter. The vast majority of players will come out to stand for the anthem and life will move on. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 05/23/18 3:04:43 PM #153: |
Sayoria posted...
Capn Circus posted...Sayoria posted...lightwarrior78 posted...I guess now the overpaid athletes will have to find a new way to address their issues, preferably one that actually does something other than piss people off. They're letting them stay in the locker rooms if they don't want to stand --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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