Current Events > BREAKING NEWS: White NFL officially banning kneeling during anthems.

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fenderbender321 posted...

I'm not upset about the kneeling. But I get tired of it being the center of attention.

I'm in the same boat. I'm about as annoyed with the conservative snowflakes as I am with the players kneeling. I'm not even really annoyed with 99% of the players who have done it, I've only really been annoyed with Kaepernick cause he only started this stuff after being rightfully benched due to sucking and not being able to win games.
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ThePrinceFish posted...

CyricZ posted...

Football can go hang for all I care. I'm just caring about the freedoms of the American worker and the worrying precedent of enforced patriotism.

The freedoms of the American worker do not include activism during your job.

I guess I've been transported to an alternate America where strikes and walkouts don't exist.

And while I posited it as a question earlier, now I'm just outright saying it: this move by the owners is not about respect, tradition, or patriotism. It's about control. It's about exercising control over the workers. The union was not consulted, and I'm very much looking forward to what they have to say on this after review.
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CyricZ posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

CyricZ posted...

Football can go hang for all I care. I'm just caring about the freedoms of the American worker and the worrying precedent of enforced patriotism.

The freedoms of the American worker do not include activism during your job.

I guess I've been transported to an alternate America where strikes and walkouts don't exist.

And while I posited it as a question earlier, now I'm just outright saying it: this move by the owners is not about respect, tradition, or patriotism. It's about control. It's about exercising control over the workers. The union was not consulted, and I'm very much looking forward to what they have to say on this after review.

I don't think its about exercising control at all. They were losing money. If they weren't losing money they probably wouldn't care, if they were making money they would outright encourage it.
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JfAtS1O3N posted...

They were losing money. If they weren't losing money they probably wouldn't care, if they were making money they would outright encourage it.

https://www.thescore.com/news/1548609

Furthermore, all sports are down in ratings across the board. It's not about protests. It's about cord-cutting.
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Antifar posted...

Why do you guys care about the NFL's image and time?

Why do you care if players stand or sit in the locker room?
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KingCrabCake posted...

Sayoria posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Sayoria posted...

Could an employer force an Indian man to eat a hamburger? Because that's pretty much saying the same thing. He is working for someone who wants him to eat a hamburger.

Wow that is one dumb fucking analogy that isnt even in the same boat.

Nba Forces its players...and guess what...bo one cries

Trumpisms. Can't say yes or no. It's a pretty darn good analogy, thank you very much. Now, should an employer be allowed to force an Indian man to eat a hamburger? Like standing for the anthem, it is going against one's beliefs and desires.

No it's not the same analogy at all nor am i a Trumpisms. Please try to keep up if you're going to talk

Trumpisming again and not answering my question.
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Conservatives are literally the BabyRage emote LOL
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CyricZ posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

CyricZ posted...

Football can go hang for all I care. I'm just caring about the freedoms of the American worker and the worrying precedent of enforced patriotism.

The freedoms of the American worker do not include activism during your job.

I guess I've been transported to an alternate America where strikes and walkouts don't exist.

And while I posited it as a question earlier, now I'm just outright saying it: this move by the owners is not about respect, tradition, or patriotism. It's about control. It's about exercising control over the workers. The union was not consulted, and I'm very much looking forward to what they have to say on this after review.

People get straight up fired over strikes and walkouts all the time. Wal-Mart has straight up closed stores just because they voted to unionize. And those people dont have jobs where they make millions of dollars a year. They're people who really need their jobs and have legitimate complaints over issues they are having specifically in their work places.
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CyricZ posted...

JfAtS1O3N posted...

They were losing money. If they weren't losing money they probably wouldn't care, if they were making money they would outright encourage it.

https://www.thescore.com/news/1548609

Furthermore, all sports are down in ratings across the board. It's not about protests. It's about cord-cutting.

NASCAR has had significant viewership and attendance declines and evidently they don't kneel for the anthem there so it doesn't make sense why they're doing so bad!!!
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Players should still do it. Until the whole empty ceremony is discontinued. If we're only allowed to see those who agree with policy, then the spirit of freedom is entirely lost.

Spooking posted...

The NFL is a billion dollar company (around 75 billion).

How much of that ends up in your pocket?
Spooking posted...

If I was an NFL owner, why would I jeopardize my profits for this non-issue? I wouldn't! I would fire them and be done with it.

You aren't, though.
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CyricZ posted...

JfAtS1O3N posted...

They were losing money. If they weren't losing money they probably wouldn't care, if they were making money they would outright encourage it.

https://www.thescore.com/news/1548609

Furthermore, all sports are down in ratings across the board. It's not about protests. It's about cord-cutting.

It's not that either because you can pretty much get the NFL everywhere. It has more to do with that. With everyone offering a feed, people start to skip it because it's not this special event anymore

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1548755

As a Jets fan, I'm pretty stunned by this. The owner Woody Johnson is a big Republican, but I guess he isn't in control since Trump appointed him ambassador to the UK
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CyricZ posted...

JfAtS1O3N posted...

They were losing money. If they weren't losing money they probably wouldn't care, if they were making money they would outright encourage it.

https://www.thescore.com/news/1548609

Furthermore, all sports are down in ratings across the board. It's not about protests. It's about cord-cutting.

Finally!! Someone said it.

Bullet_Wing posted...

Antifar posted...

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1548755

As a Jets fan, I'm pretty stunned by this. The owner Woody Johnson is a big Republican, but I guess he isn't in control since Trump appointed him ambassador to the UK

Expect to see a lot of this. Most people really don't give enough of a fuck to enforce this nonsense

"I do not like imposing any club-specific rules," Johnson told Bob Glauber of Newsday. "If somebody (on the Jets) takes a knee, that fine will be borne by the organization, by me, not the players. I never want to put restrictions on the speech of our players. Do I prefer that they stand? Of course. But I understand if they felt the need to protest."

I call utter and complete bs. When the NFL starts hitting individual players with 5000 dollar fines and 16 players do that in a game, he's gonna regret saying that and change his stance real quick.
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Howl posted...

Bullet_Wing posted...

Antifar posted...

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1548755

As a Jets fan, I'm pretty stunned by this. The owner Woody Johnson is a big Republican, but I guess he isn't in control since Trump appointed him ambassador to the UK

Expect to see a lot of this. Most people really don't give enough of a fuck to enforce this nonsense

"I do not like imposing any club-specific rules," Johnson told Bob Glauber of Newsday. "If somebody (on the Jets) takes a knee, that fine will be borne by the organization, by me, not the players. I never want to put restrictions on the speech of our players. Do I prefer that they stand? Of course. But I understand if they felt the need to protest."

I call utter and complete bs. When the NFL starts hitting individual players with 5000 dollar fines and 16 players do that in a game, he's gonna regret saying that and change his stance real quick.

You both underestimate the money these people have while at the same time over estimate how many players actually kneel.

Do you even watch football?
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Howl posted...

Bullet_Wing posted...

Antifar posted...

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1548755

As a Jets fan, I'm pretty stunned by this. The owner Woody Johnson is a big Republican, but I guess he isn't in control since Trump appointed him ambassador to the UK

Expect to see a lot of this. Most people really don't give enough of a fuck to enforce this nonsense

"I do not like imposing any club-specific rules," Johnson told Bob Glauber of Newsday. "If somebody (on the Jets) takes a knee, that fine will be borne by the organization, by me, not the players. I never want to put restrictions on the speech of our players. Do I prefer that they stand? Of course. But I understand if they felt the need to protest."

I call utter and complete bs. When the NFL starts hitting individual players with 5000 dollar fines and 16 players do that in a game, he's gonna regret saying that and change his stance real quick.

You both underestimate the money these people have while at the same time over estimate how many players actually kneel.

Do you even watch football?

I have not since the kneeling started. I know not every player does it.
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Bio1590 posted...

CyricZ posted...

JfAtS1O3N posted...

They were losing money. If they weren't losing money they probably wouldn't care, if they were making money they would outright encourage it.

https://www.thescore.com/news/1548609

Furthermore, all sports are down in ratings across the board. It's not about protests. It's about cord-cutting.

NASCAR has had significant viewership and attendance declines and evidently they don't kneel for the anthem there so it doesn't make sense why they're doing so bad!!!

Because the way NASCAR is now. The NFL did not change as much as the NFL and the NFL viewership and attendance still dropped.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Howl posted...

Bullet_Wing posted...

Antifar posted...

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1548755

As a Jets fan, I'm pretty stunned by this. The owner Woody Johnson is a big Republican, but I guess he isn't in control since Trump appointed him ambassador to the UK

Expect to see a lot of this. Most people really don't give enough of a fuck to enforce this nonsense

"I do not like imposing any club-specific rules," Johnson told Bob Glauber of Newsday. "If somebody (on the Jets) takes a knee, that fine will be borne by the organization, by me, not the players. I never want to put restrictions on the speech of our players. Do I prefer that they stand? Of course. But I understand if they felt the need to protest."

I call utter and complete bs. When the NFL starts hitting individual players with 5000 dollar fines and 16 players do that in a game, he's gonna regret saying that and change his stance real quick.

You both underestimate the money these people have while at the same time over estimate how many players actually kneel.

Do you even watch football?

No, I haven't watched football since I was a little kid. I just barely know enough about it to kind of talk about it because it's the only thing my mom's long time boyfriend ever talks about.
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MedzXVIII posted...

I have not since the kneeling started. I know not every player does it.

That's under selling the fact only a small minority actually do protest. This whole issue was dying down before Trump had to be his typical divisive self and use it was red meat for his base. And anyone who's actually followed this enitre ridiculous bullshit knows that.
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Howl posted...

No, I haven't watched football since I was a little kid. I just barely know enough about it to kind of talk about it because it's the only thing my mom's long time boyfriend ever talks about.

Then your opinion on this matter means jack shit to me
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Gotta please those GOP Snowflakes I guess.
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Oh no, those poor players have to follow conduct policies while on the job. The horror.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Howl posted...

No, I haven't watched football since I was a little kid. I just barely know enough about it to kind of talk about it because it's the only thing my mom's long time boyfriend ever talks about.

Then your opinion on this matter means jack shit to me

I wasn't giving my opinion on football at all or even what I think about the protest which is nothing because I don't care. I was giving my opinion specifically on what that owner said because I do not believe any finacially responsible person would ever just willingly give away thousands of dollars every week in that manner for any long period of time.
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This is some facist dhitbright here.
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FaultyGourry posted...

Oh no, those poor players have to follow conduct policies while on the job. The horror.

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Geiki Ganger posted...

Teams will be fined now if players kneel.

so they pay the fine to themselves.
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MedzXVIII posted...

FaultyGourry posted...

Oh no, those poor players have to follow conduct policies while on the job. The horror.

Nope. They're valuable talent, so if they want, they'll kneel anyway and either eat the fines or have team owners pay them. Also, look forward to the NFLPA fighting this. The days of telling black men to shut up and entertain yall are very quickly coming to an end
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Howl posted...

I call utter and complete bs. When the NFL starts hitting individual players with 5000 dollar fines and 16 players do that in a game, he's gonna regret saying that and change his stance real quick.

Ha, when your argument is "I have faith in the shittiness of mankind", can it really be called a win?
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M_Live posted...

Conservatives: Defending Nazis right to free speech while also getting assmad and banning black people from kneeling.

B-b-but liberals do the opposite too!!!
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What a stupid topic this has become
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Good for the NFL, enough of this drama bullshit.
They can stay in the locker room, so that would be their protest, use the time off the field to raise awareness for issues like that.
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This isnt that inconsistent from the NFLs typical policies. Theyve cracked down on players wearing ribbons to support breast cancer awareness
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FrisbeeDude posted...

MedzXVIII posted...

FaultyGourry posted...

Oh no, those poor players have to follow conduct policies while on the job. The horror.

Nope. They're valuable talent, so if they want, they'll kneel anyway and either eat the fines or have team owners pay them. Also, look forward to the NFLPA fighting this. The days of telling black men to shut up and entertain yall are very quickly coming to an end

NFLPA is a joke. I wouldnt rely on them for shit.
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CyricZ posted...

Howl posted...

I call utter and complete bs. When the NFL starts hitting individual players with 5000 dollar fines and 16 players do that in a game, he's gonna regret saying that and change his stance real quick.

Ha, when your argument is "I have faith in the shittiness of mankind", can it really be called a win?

No, that doesn't mean it's incorrect though.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

MedzXVIII posted...

FaultyGourry posted...

Oh no, those poor players have to follow conduct policies while on the job. The horror.

Nope. They're valuable talent, so if they want, they'll kneel anyway and either eat the fines or have team owners pay them. Also, look forward to the NFLPA fighting this. The days of telling black men to shut up and entertain yall are very quickly coming to an end

Unless of course you're a Democrat and a black man expresses a political opinion you don't like. Then it's okay to say that he needs help formulating his thoughts properly and shouldn't speak out of turn:

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/05/01/maxine-waters-kanye-west-supporting-trump-talks-out-turn-formulates-thoughts
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If I went to work and promoted anarchy, I'd probably be punished. These people should be too. You are there to work.

DifferentialEquation posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

MedzXVIII posted...

FaultyGourry posted...

Oh no, those poor players have to follow conduct policies while on the job. The horror.

Nope. They're valuable talent, so if they want, they'll kneel anyway and either eat the fines or have team owners pay them. Also, look forward to the NFLPA fighting this. The days of telling black men to shut up and entertain yall are very quickly coming to an end

Unless of course you're a Democrat and a black man expresses a political opinion you don't like. Then it's okay to say that he needs help formulating his thoughts properly and shouldn't speak out of turn:

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/05/01/maxine-waters-kanye-west-supporting-trump-talks-out-turn-formulates-thoughts

Or like many users on this board will just straight up call him an Uncle Tom and fail to see the irony in themselves.
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This topic is glorious. So many triggered snowflakes lol
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Howl posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

MedzXVIII posted...

FaultyGourry posted...

Oh no, those poor players have to follow conduct policies while on the job. The horror.

Nope. They're valuable talent, so if they want, they'll kneel anyway and either eat the fines or have team owners pay them. Also, look forward to the NFLPA fighting this. The days of telling black men to shut up and entertain yall are very quickly coming to an end

Unless of course you're a Democrat and a black man expresses a political opinion you don't like. Then it's okay to say that he needs help formulating his thoughts properly and shouldn't speak out of turn:

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/05/01/maxine-waters-kanye-west-supporting-trump-talks-out-turn-formulates-thoughts

Or like many users on this board will just straight up call him an Uncle Tom and fail to see the irony in themselves.

I remember when the NFL was called racist for taking away black players culture when they tried to ban the N word
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glitteringfairy posted...

This topic is glorious. So many triggered snowflakes lol

Are you referring to me? I honestly don't care if these players "protest" the national anthem or not. I'm an anti war libertarian. I am not for or against them doing it at all. Maxine Waters telling Kanye West to shut up because he's saying things she doesn't like is just gold though.
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Lmao at trying to use kanye as some example
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Howl posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

This topic is glorious. So many triggered snowflakes lol

Are you referring to me? I honestly don't care if these players "protest" the national anthem or not. I'm an anti war libertarian. I am not for or against them doing it at all. Maxine Waters telling Kanye West to shut up because he's saying things she doesn't like is just gold though.

Seriously, the only triggered people are the snowflakes complaining about the new rule lol