Board 8 > Nationalist politics topic 6: Why we are better

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OliviaTremor
05/21/18 3:39:31 PM
#51:


Vlado posted...
Mr Lasastryke posted...
lol @ vlado dismissing notyou's point as "nitpicking." yeah, it's not like it makes your whole "nationalism" narrative completely fall apart or anything.

if conservatism/nationalism is all about "living in your ancestors' land" that gives me another reason not to ever join them, btw. i'd much rather live in the netherlands than the place my ancestors came from. (seems pretty globalist and anti-nationalist to move to a country i wasn't born in, too!)

How does it make it "fall apart"? It's nitpicking because it fails to address the meat of my arguments, it merely searches for some imagined gap to strike, and because arguing about the past is pointless. What's done is done. We cannot make time turn back and erase the injustices done to the Native American tribes.

We can, however, influence, and indeed change the present and future. And that is what I intend to do.


I look forward to a whole bunch of middle eastern people invading Bulgaria, conquering it and the rest of Europe, and in 300 years it's all good.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/21/18 3:40:44 PM
#52:


Vlado posted...
While European civilisation, in parallel with the likes of China and Japan, has driven humanity's progress through history, of course that doesn't mean that non-European countries cannot be nationalist, too.


perhaps you shouldn't have singled out europe in your "nationalism" list, then.
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Vlado
05/21/18 3:43:28 PM
#53:


OliviaTremor posted...
I look forward to a whole bunch of middle eastern people invading Bulgaria, conquering it and the rest of Europe, and in 300 years it's all good.

Could happen. If we are weak, we will fall. Several Western European nations are already falling. What certainly won't happen, however, is your delusional vision of a "social justice" globalist society of brainless consumers where the capable are curbed down to the level of the incapable.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
Vlado posted...
While European civilisation, in parallel with the likes of China and Japan, has driven humanity's progress through history, of course that doesn't mean that non-European countries cannot be nationalist, too.


perhaps you shouldn't have singled out europe in your "nationalism" list, then.

Mea culpa.
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Espeon
05/21/18 3:43:48 PM
#54:


Yeah, your nationalism post sure did specify European and Christian culture as the ideals to be protected.
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Vlado
05/21/18 3:44:41 PM
#55:


To me, they are. It is perfectly understandable that the Muslim holds his own religion as the ideal, however.
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Espeon
05/21/18 3:46:16 PM
#56:


Vlado posted...
To me, they are. It is perfectly understandable that the Muslim holds his own religion as the ideal, however.


But your post is about nationalism versus globalism, not what affects you personally.
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OliviaTremor
05/21/18 3:47:12 PM
#57:


Vlado posted...
Could happen. If we are weak, we will fall. Several Western European nations are already falling. What certainly won't happen, however, is your delusional vision of a "social justice" globalist society of brainless consumers where the capable are curbed down to the level of the incapable.


I have never once mentioned, in any of my posts, social justice globalist society or anything regarding consumerism. Good reading skills.

Now if you want to talk about dragon dildos I did mention that. I bet you can't even take one XL up your butt you coward. Do it for Jesus.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/21/18 3:47:31 PM
#58:


Vlado I would like answers to my questions in post 41.
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TheRock1525
05/21/18 3:48:29 PM
#59:


Why is this topic #6? This is the first nationalist topic.
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Peace___Frog
05/21/18 4:00:19 PM
#60:


Vlado posted...
Everything stated in the first post stands 100%.

Peace___Frog posted...
"DEBATE WITH ME," the man yelled, thrashing about the room. "NO, NOT LIKE THAT! DON'T NITPICK MY ARGUMENTS! MY PRECIOUS, PRECIOUS ARGUMENTS!" he bemoaned.

As everyone turned their backs on him, he began muttering to himself. "They just can't handle my intellect. Yes, that's it... I'm too smart for them! Every single one of them! LMAOOOOOOOOOOooooooo..."

His voice carried off into the distance as he grabbed the nearest XXL dildo and ferociously shoved it into his rectum. "This will show them!" he exclaimed, crying tears of joy. "I did it all to own the libs! And look at them now!"

Had there been any onlookers remaining, they surely would have averted their gaze by now. It surely begs the question: if a nationalist fellates himself but no one is around to notice, did they actually fellate themself at all?

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Hardcore_Adult
05/21/18 4:01:33 PM
#61:


Hey, Vlado.

Who you backing for the World Cup?
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Vlado
05/21/18 4:03:03 PM
#62:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Vlado what country should people live in if they are adopted and don't know how their ancestors are and have no experience with whatever culture their ancestors were part of?

They should just do whatever they believe is for the best. At the very least, they can try living a virtuous life of self-improvement. But in the end, they are few and do not matter in the big picture. No offence.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Which Christian denomination is the correct one?

Orthodox Christianity, of course. It's called that way for a reason. We are a congregation of equals - all churches in the Orthodox Church are equal, each church represents one seperate people, we haven't got a man ("pope") that we should obey and worship, we only worship God.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
How do I advance European culture as an American who is unfamiliar with European culture?

Reject degeneracy and live a virtuous life of self-improvement. That doesn't even need to necessarily be as part of a European culture, lots of other peoples do it. Preserving what makes humans human. Even doing that alone is a big help.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
How do I learn how to love someone and how can I be talked into having kids when I don't want to deal with raising kids, from a financial perspective to a responsibility perspective to an interactive perspective?

It is not for everyone. Better to not have children, if you are sure you would not make a good parent... I can understand such a decision. It is the people who'd make good parents, but are falling for globalist propaganda, and either don't have any, or only have one or two, who must be convinced back onto the good path.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Why especially pedophiles? How are they any worse than mass shooters, serial killers, terrorists etc.? Why put emphasis on that specific variety of degenerate?

Because the innocence of children is most sacred. And they are much more numerous than the other groups you mentioned, and thus more dangerous to society.
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Vlado
05/21/18 4:04:19 PM
#63:


BELIEF IN SOMETHING GREATER THAN YOURSELF.

That is what makes humans human.
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Vlado
05/21/18 4:06:36 PM
#64:


Hardcore_Adult posted...
Hey, Vlado.

Who you backing for the World Cup?

Russia, Japan, Iceland. Sadly, Bulgaria haven't qualified for 20 years now...
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Zachnorn
05/21/18 4:06:52 PM
#65:


Vlado, how do you feel about immigration and mixed race people?

For example, I took a DNA test and I'm 49% European and 41% Native American. Specifically, my ancestry points to these modern day countries: United States, Italy, Mexico, United Kingdom, Spain/Portugal, Ireland/Scotland/Wales, and various other countries that fall into "European Jewish" and "Scandinavia." I was born and raised in the US as were my parents (in fact, we've all lived in Southern California since birth).

What's my ancestor's land? Do I say it's the US because that's where my parents are from and because I'm partially Native American? Do I say it's Europe because that makes up the biggest chunk of my DNA overall? Do I claim all those European and North American countries as my ancestral land? Partially, in proportion to my percentages?

If I found opportunities to live in, say, Australia, is that a bad thing if I decided to move there, assuming of course that I assimilate into their culture? If so, is it bad if I married someone there and had kids? How about if an Australian moves to the US and we marry and have kids? How about if we replace Australia with a country that doesn't have a lot of Europeans that moved there, such as Japan or China?

I'm legitimately curious about how all this works.
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OliviaTremor
05/21/18 4:09:22 PM
#66:


Vlado, what is your opinion of an American company's dragon dildos being made in China? The company is American, however they are outsourcing to China, and the dragon penises are modeled off of European dragons. What is your opinion on this?
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CelesMyUserName
05/21/18 4:14:18 PM
#67:


Zachnorn posted...
Vlado, how do you feel about immigration and mixed race people?

For example, I took a DNA test and I'm 49% European and 41% Native American. Specifically, my ancestry points to these modern day countries: United States, Italy, Mexico, United Kingdom, Spain/Portugal, Ireland/Scotland/Wales, and various other countries that fall into "European Jewish" and "Scandinavia." I was born and raised in the US as were my parents (in fact, we've all lived in Southern California since birth).

What's my ancestor's land? Do I say it's the US because that's where my parents are from and because I'm partially Native American? Do I say it's Europe because that makes up the biggest chunk of my DNA overall? Do I claim all those European and North American countries as my ancestral land? Partially, in proportion to my percentages?

If I found opportunities to live in, say, Australia, is that a bad thing if I decided to move there, assuming of course that I assimilate into their culture? If so, is it bad if I married someone there and had kids? How about if an Australian moves to the US and we marry and have kids? How about if we replace Australia with a country that doesn't have a lot of Europeans that moved there, such as Japan or China?

I'm legitimately curious about how all this works.

Vlado's been on the record endorsing Genetic Purity a number of times already and calls race mixing dangerous/damaging to society
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Hardcore_Adult
05/21/18 4:15:45 PM
#68:


Olivia... Are you... obesssed... with.... Phallics?

Just putting it out there!
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/21/18 4:16:00 PM
#69:


Vlado posted...
BELIEF IN SOMETHING GREATER THAN YOURSELF.

That is what makes humans human.


I mean the universe itself is greater than an individual human. Does that not go without saying?
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Vlado
05/21/18 4:17:32 PM
#70:


Zachnorn posted...
Vlado, how do you feel about immigration and mixed race people?

For example, I took a DNA test and I'm 49% European and 41% Native American. Specifically, my ancestry points to these modern day countries: United States, Italy, Mexico, United Kingdom, Spain/Portugal, Ireland/Scotland/Wales, and various other countries that fall into "European Jewish" and "Scandinavia." I was born and raised in the US as were my parents (in fact, we've all lived in Southern California since birth).

What's my ancestor's land? Do I say it's the US because that's where my parents are from and because I'm partially Native American? Do I say it's Europe because that makes up the biggest chunk of my DNA overall? Do I claim all those European and North American countries as my ancestral land? Partially, in proportion to my percentages?

If I found opportunities to live in, say, Australia, is that a bad thing if I decided to move there, assuming of course that I assimilate into their culture? If so, is it bad if I married someone there and had kids? How about if an Australian moves to the US and we marry and have kids? How about if we replace Australia with a country that doesn't have a lot of Europeans that moved there, such as Japan or China?

I'm legitimately curious about how all this works.

Those online DNA tests are huge scams, I recently read an article about how they intentionally falsified results to fuck with people - just a little bit so it's not obvious, of course (https://archive.is/AePkf). But, for argument's sake, let's take your results at face value.

As for immigration... I generally dislike it, but if the cultures of the hosts and the guest are close enough, it can work well enough. Of course, in the USA lots of people have ancestors from more than one nation, in your case it's complicated. Still, different European cultures are close enough that in the US (and similar countries) people of those cultures tend to stick together.

As for you particularly, since you are also almost half Native American, I'd say, in terms of nationality, you're as USA as anyone. USA is the right place for you. Australian culture is close enough to yours, and you shouldn't have much trouble if you moved there. You'd have a much harder time being accepted in China or Japan (realistically, you'll never be accepted as part of their society, aside from a handful of friends at best).

Your kids would be best off, and you'd have the best chance at providing them with a happy childhood and future, if your wife was ethnic European/Native American like yourself, or European.
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 4:23:37 PM
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CelesMyUserName
05/21/18 4:24:24 PM
#72:


keep protectin' that white race man
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/21/18 4:24:24 PM
#73:


Vlado posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Vlado what country should people live in if they are adopted and don't know how their ancestors are and have no experience with whatever culture their ancestors were part of?

They should just do whatever they believe is for the best. At the very least, they can try living a virtuous life of self-improvement. But in the end, they are few and do not matter in the big picture. No offence.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Which Christian denomination is the correct one?

Orthodox Christianity, of course. It's called that way for a reason. We are a congregation of equals - all churches in the Orthodox Church are equal, each church represents one seperate people, we haven't got a man ("pope") that we should obey and worship, we only worship God.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
How do I advance European culture as an American who is unfamiliar with European culture?

Reject degeneracy and live a virtuous life of self-improvement. That doesn't even need to necessarily be as part of a European culture, lots of other peoples do it. Preserving what makes humans human. Even doing that alone is a big help.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
How do I learn how to love someone and how can I be talked into having kids when I don't want to deal with raising kids, from a financial perspective to a responsibility perspective to an interactive perspective?

It is not for everyone. Better to not have children, if you are sure you would not make a good parent... I can understand such a decision. It is the people who'd make good parents, but are falling for globalist propaganda, and either don't have any, or only have one or two, who must be convinced back onto the good path.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Why especially pedophiles? How are they any worse than mass shooters, serial killers, terrorists etc.? Why put emphasis on that specific variety of degenerate?

Because the innocence of children is most sacred. And they are much more numerous than the other groups you mentioned, and thus more dangerous to society.


Offense taken.

Being god would be more fun than worshiping god tbqh

I wouldn't make a good parent. The role of quirky uncle seen a few times a year at family gatherings is a role that fits me better.

I mean... I get what you're saying about pedophiles, and you're not wrong about the "more of them" think, but I'm all fairness I don't know if it would be accurate to say someone like Roy Moore is more dangerous than someone like Ed Gein. However, factoring in the difference in number, 5 Ed Geins would probably do less damage than 100 Roy Moores.
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Espeon
05/21/18 4:26:25 PM
#74:


Vlado, what do you think about nationalism going against the Word of the Bible? I mean, youre claiming that we shouldnt mix races in order to maintain Aryan purity, but according to the Bible (and science, but you reject science because it contradicts your evidence-free beliefs), all of humanity stems from the same common ancestors: Adam and Eve. So if anything, this idea of cordoning people off by arbitrary geographic boundaries flies in the face of God Himself. We are one human race. Globalists just want us to go back to our godly roots of being a unified culture.
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 4:27:26 PM
#75:


Reminder that one of the things Vlado considers pedophilia is allowing children to watch content with gay people in it.
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Zachnorn
05/21/18 4:31:24 PM
#76:


CelesMyUserName posted...
Vlado's been on the record endorsing Genetic Purity a number of times already and calls race mixing dangerous/damaging to society

oh shit

Vlado posted...
Those online DNA tests are huge scams, I recently read an article about how they intentionally falsified results to fuck with people - just a little bit so it's not obvious, of course (https://archive.is/AePkf).

I believe it said something like 4% "Africa North" and 1% Nigerian. I just assume that those lower numbers are more error than anything, or that it's possible that such things could have happened many generations ago. I don't look African at all, but in theory, I could see how there could be a trace. Still, I mostly ignore the little amounts.

Vlado posted...
As for immigration... I generally dislike it, but if the cultures of the hosts and the guest are close enough, it can work well enough. Of course, in the USA lots of people have ancestors from more than one nation, in your case it's complicated. Still, different European cultures are close enough that in the US (and similar countries) people of those cultures tend to stick together.

How do you feel about Europeans coming to North America, Australia/New Zealand, etc.?

Vlado posted...
As for you particularly, since you are also almost half Native American, I'd say, in terms of nationality, you're as USA as anyone. USA is the right place for you. Australia is close enough to you, and you shouldn't have much trouble if you moved there. You'd have a much harder time being accepted in China or Japan (realistically, you'll never be accepted as part of their society, aside from a handful of friends at best).

Australia is close enough to me culturally, you mean? I have no Aboriginal Australian blood or any family ties to Australia, other than some of the same ethnic origins (such as Great Britain).

Vlado posted...
Your kids would be best off, and you'd have the best chance at providing them with a happy childhood and future, if your partner was ethnic European/Native American like yourself, or European.

What is the basis of limiting myself to a certain race or ethnicity? What if I were to, say, marry an American girl, with American parents, all born and raised in the US, but they are of Chinese ancestry?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/21/18 7:17:24 PM
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Vlado rekt by Ulti! :)
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Jakyl25
05/21/18 7:33:00 PM
#79:


Vlado posted...
BELIEF IN SOMETHING GREATER THAN YOURSELF.

That is what makes humans human.


I believe in a global human culture!
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StealThisSheen
05/21/18 7:34:32 PM
#80:


I believe in Lebron James who is greater than me

Step aside, everyone. Human coming through.
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Jakyl25
05/21/18 7:37:43 PM
#81:


Honestly I think animals believe in something greater than themselves too

Deer sees man, deer runs
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TheRock1525
05/21/18 7:54:48 PM
#82:


Jakyl25 posted...
Honestly I think animals believe in something greater than themselves too

Deer sees man, deer runs


You've never been to Canadian Lakes, Michigan.
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Jakyl25
05/21/18 8:00:04 PM
#83:


TheRock1525 posted...
Canadian Lakes, Michigan.


That name sounds like something a globalist would come up with
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 8:57:15 PM
#85:


Eddv posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
Ulti is uninformed about many things

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Jakyl25
05/21/18 11:40:49 PM
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ZXAdvent_Lucian
05/22/18 12:06:16 AM
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Glad you stopped falling for the conservative meme, Vlado.
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05/22/18 12:08:18 AM
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TheRock1525
05/22/18 12:29:24 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Canadian Lakes, Michigan.


That name sounds like something a globalist would come up with


It's 98% old and white so I dunno.
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StealThisSheen
05/22/18 1:20:09 AM
#90:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/blaircottrell89/status/996711237407850502?s=21

Aussie Vlado shares the danger of diversity


Those people could very well be Australian

Quick, ask them if this is a knife
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Jakyl25
05/22/18 2:21:10 AM
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I like that hes so bad at memes he had to label which one was old and which one was new
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lordloki12
05/22/18 2:24:39 AM
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Also not the best meme to use considering he cheated on his pregnant wife.
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CelesMyUserName
05/22/18 2:35:30 AM
#94:


lordloki12 posted...
Also not the best meme to use considering he cheated on his pregnant wife.

oh lawd I wonder if someone tweeted back a pick with his face, wife's face, o'day's face
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Vlado
05/22/18 10:01:37 AM
#95:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Offense taken.

*shrug*

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Being god would be more fun than worshiping god tbqh

Reality is, you aren't. No human being is God, nor is the abstraction of mankind God.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
I wouldn't make a good parent. The role of quirky uncle seen a few times a year at family gatherings is a role that fits me better.

That's how I understood you, yes. Fair enough.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
I mean... I get what you're saying about pedophiles, and you're not wrong about the "more of them" think, but I'm all fairness I don't know if it would be accurate to say someone like Roy Moore is more dangerous than someone like Ed Gein. However, factoring in the difference in number, 5 Ed Geins would probably do less damage than 100 Roy Moores.

The accusations against Moore were fabricated, and I don't know the other guy.

Zachnorn posted...
I believe it said something like 4% "Africa North" and 1% Nigerian. I just assume that those lower numbers are more error than anything, or that it's possible that such things could have happened many generations ago. I don't look African at all, but in theory, I could see how there could be a trace. Still, I mostly ignore the little amounts.

As you should.

Zachnorn posted...
How do you feel about Europeans coming to North America, Australia/New Zealand, etc.?

I think it must have been an exciting age of adventure. Of course, I don't like that many natives were killed. But one must keep in mind that "Might makes right" is the only truly valid law in the universe. That said, obviously Europeans didn't handle matters very intelligently, if we look at how those ages have eventually led to the current situation.

Zachnorn posted...
Australia is close enough to me culturally, you mean? I have no Aboriginal Australian blood or any family ties to Australia, other than some of the same ethnic origins (such as Great Britain).

I am talking about the majority of the current Australian population, which is mostly English-speaking Europeans.
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Vlado
05/22/18 10:09:48 AM
#96:


Zachnorn posted...
What is the basis of limiting myself to a certain race or ethnicity? What if I were to, say, marry an American girl, with American parents, all born and raised in the US, but they are of Chinese ancestry?

They're Chinese then. If I went to live in Japan with my wife, I wouldn't magically become Japanese, my children wouldn't be Japanese. We'd be Bulgarians living in Japan.

It's not "limiting yourself," it's thinking of the future, and of your eventual children. Children whose parents are of different ethnicities face psychological issues, lack of sense of belonging. It's not a good thing for a child, nor an adult. The more distant the ethnicities are, the harsher the child's situation. Think of the children. :)

UltimaterializerX posted...
Those dna tests arent scams at all. My wife and I took one and her genetic issue came up.

Erm... The tests Zach is talking about are an online fad about supposedly finding out what ethnicity you are, in exact percentages. They're dubious at best (as seen in the article I shared), not to mention the real price you're paying is you're giving some shady company your own genetic samples for them to do whatever they want with. Not medical ones.

UltimaterializerX posted...
Trump calls MS-13 a bunch of animals. Liberal media cuts off the part about MS-13 and claims he called all immigrants animals.

This is why no Trump supporter trusts the media anymore. They're a bunch of lying trash.

Typical. Not surprising in the least.

Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/racismdog/status/998758067629109249?s=21

The racism watch dog is onto Vlado

lmfao, "racism watch dog"... Complete with a picture of a dog and "WOOF WOOF" tweets. The left can't meme to save their lives.

ZXAdvent_Lucian posted...
Glad you stopped falling for the conservative meme, Vlado.

Haha, well, I do believe part of the path to victory will be completely taking over what's left of the old conservative parties. Half of Republicans are globalists with R instead of D next to their name, anyway. WE are conservative. They aren't. Hopefully America First people replace them.

Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/blaircottrell89/status/996711237407850502?s=21

Aussie Vlado shares the danger of diversity

That video is quite concerning, yes.

UltimaterializerX posted...
https://i.redd.it/2wcpyqmdk9z01.jpg

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Jakyl25
05/22/18 10:13:47 AM
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Vlado posted...
That video is quite concerning, yes.


WOOF WOOF WOOF
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Vlado
05/22/18 10:18:20 AM
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Also, remember that time 10-15 years ago when "liberals" were loudly claiming the slippery slope wasn't real?

Somebody made a meme:
https://image.ibb.co/kTXxvo/Relax_bigot.jpg

Also, an actual conservative Republican introduces a BRILLIANT bill.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/21/steve-king-introduces-act-to-imprison-politicians-who-help-illegal-aliens-evade-deportation/

Of course, globalists in his own party won't let it fly.
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TheRock1525
05/22/18 10:20:25 AM
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Where is that picture is she telling them to be gay?
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Jakyl25
05/22/18 10:21:24 AM
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Did literally any liberal ever say that?

We would have always WANTED people to teach kids that theres nothing wrong with being gay.
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