Poll of the Day > 12 y/o Pennsylvania Girl gets DEATH THREATS from a BOY cause she's JEWISH!!!

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12 y/o Nora Nissenbaum from Philadelphia received disturbing text from a classmate who threatened to SHOOT UP the school and to KILL HER because she was JEWISH..and now that boy is allowed BACK into the classroom despite being charged!!

When Nora told a boy she wasn't interested in him anymore, he started texting her images of Adolf Hitler and insults such as "Dirty ***"

Her parents contacted the middle school and soon after word spread on the boy threatenening to take a gun to class to target 33 people, specifically Nora, a week later, the boy was BACK IN CLASS despite facing criminal charges in Juvenile Court.

Nora says they cross each other in the hallway everyday and said "Knowing that he wants to hurt me scares me a lot"..she is now finishing the school year at home as she does not feel safe there

At first, she and the boy liked each other and she thought he was "cute" but when she heard he was a huge jerk after he bullied her friends at a dance, that bothered her and she said she no longer liked the boy.

Then came the texts of horrific jewish jokes and memes involving concentration camps.

The boy was not in school for 5 days after they assumed he was suspended but then he finally returned without notice from them. He also said that he was going to bring a gun to school and shoot up his classmates for what they did!

Principal Andy Phillips assured parents who were concerned about the boy that their kids are safe but Drew Holzapfel, who was another parent of a child said the principal quickly ignored their concerns and went on with other matteres such as lice.

The boy was examined psychologically and decided he was NOT CRAZY and could return to school. His locker was moved farther away from hers and his schedule was changed so he could no longer have classes with Nora..

But Nora said it made her jittery as she always looked in her locker mirror if he was there and despite a court of protection against the boy, she didn't want to be there anymore as she got PTSD from this ordeal.

Do you think this boy is a future "Incel"?

Nora -

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Poor girl. The school system is being especially shitty by not dealing with it directly. I get that they're unlikely to change the bully's attitude, but that's what expulsion is for. Of course, I'm willing to bet a substantial amount of money that his parents aren't of any high caliber when it comes to morals and ethics.

Of course the school does nothing about it and just waits until the kid actually gets a gun and does what he said he would do.
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...so basically she's not getting death threats "because she's Jewish," she's getting them because she broke up with a kid who can't handle rejection? (And whose inability to handle rejection likely stems from the fact that he's a 12 y/o with existing anger issues experiencing his first break-up.) While antisemitism is a major problem in this country -- as evidenced by the socially acceptable hatred of Israel -- don't make this out to be something it's not.

mrduckbear posted...

When Nora told a boy she wasn't interested in him anymore, he started texting her images of Adolf Hitler and insults such as "Dirty ***"

If the blotted out section is just "Jew," I don't get the point of blotting it out at all.

mrduckbear posted...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2018/05/17/13/wire-2993418-1526561144-335_634x408.jpg

Very strong family resemblance.

mrduckbear posted...

Do you think this boy is a future "Incel"?

You seriously need to stop already.

GanglyKhan posted...

Poor girl. The school system is being especially shitty by not dealing with it directly. I get that they're unlikely to change the bully's attitude, but that's what expulsion is for. Of course, I'm willing to bet a substantial amount of money that his parents aren't of any high caliber when it comes to morals and ethics.

You can't expel every bully, nor would that necessarily be a benefit if you could.

aHappySacka posted...

Of course the school does nothing about it and just waits until the kid actually gets a gun and does what he said he would do.

Every jerk doesn't turn out to be a killer. Plus he's still at a young enough age that intervention shouldn't be that hard.
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Zeus posted...

You can't expel every bully, nor would that necessarily be a benefit if you could.

Broooo, if you threaten 33 people with death, that's grounds for something. I get that expulsion doesn't solve any issues with that kid, but it does help remove immediate threats and safety concerns (assuming the kid doesn't have his own methods of showing back up in the middle of class). Saying you can tell 33 people you're going to shoot them but can also show up for class tomorrow sends the wrong message. Best option to expel? No. Is it a viable one? Likely so.

throw the boy in jail for hate crime
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GanglyKhan posted...

Zeus posted...

You can't expel every bully, nor would that necessarily be a benefit if you could.

Broooo, if you threaten 33 people with death, that's grounds for something. I get that expulsion doesn't solve any issues with that kid, but it does help remove immediate threats and safety concerns (assuming the kid doesn't have his own methods of showing back up in the middle of class). Saying you can tell 33 people you're going to shoot them but can also show up for class tomorrow sends the wrong message. Best option to expel? No. Is it a viable one? Likely so.

Brooo, you need to stop contributing to a society that confuses legitimate threats with outbursts, which has led schools to suspend children for pointing fingers and chewing sandwiches into the shape of a gun. He's 12. Nobody should take that threat seriously and, by approaching it seriously, you're encouraging people to take it seriously. A 12 y/o has very limited means to get their hands on *anything* and stopping them from getting guns is as easy as locking up guns (assuming that the parents own any guns in the first place). Creating a panic culture only encourages further threats and violence. These issues need to be resolved more constructively.
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I agree with you, Zeus, but I haven't seen any sort of example or suggestion for what should be done, and that's a separate issue, I know, but it's still one that needs to be addressed. What would you then do in this situation? Not "well, not expel him" but what action would be taken?

Police need to investigate this sicko's parents. A 12 year old doesn't just pick up this shit from cartoons

GanglyKhan posted...

I agree with you, Zeus, but I haven't seen any sort of example or suggestion for what should be done, and that's a separate issue, I know, but it's still one that needs to be addressed. What would you then do in this situation? Not "well, not expel him" but what action would be taken?

The steps that they've taken seem pretty good -- removing him from classes with the abused, separating them in the halls, etc. However, they should also put him in counseling to help him work on his rage issues (and possibly assign a teacher's aide to accompany him between classes while he's receiving counseling). Granted, it's entirely possible he *is* receiving counseling because that wouldn't necessarily be disclosed.
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Zeus posted...

GanglyKhan posted...

I agree with you, Zeus, but I haven't seen any sort of example or suggestion for what should be done, and that's a separate issue, I know, but it's still one that needs to be addressed. What would you then do in this situation? Not "well, not expel him" but what action would be taken?

The steps that they've taken seem pretty good -- removing him from classes with the abused, separating them in the halls, etc. However, they should also put him in counseling to help him work on his rage issues (and possibly assign a teacher's aide to accompany him between classes while he's receiving counseling). Granted, it's entirely possible he *is* receiving counseling because that wouldn't necessarily be disclosed.

I would certainly hope there's some sort of counseling going on. I also have to admit I really wasn't taking the kid's age into consideration. I'm sure I said some shit at that age that raised eyebrows. You're right about trying to not instill a culture of panic when it comes to words vs actions. Hopefully the parents are involved and trying to get things on track.

Zeus posted...

While antisemitism is a major problem in this country -- as evidenced by the socially acceptable hatred of Israel

Being critical of Isreal's conduct is not the same as antisemitism. Not remotely.
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adjl posted...

Zeus posted...

While antisemitism is a major problem in this country -- as evidenced by the socially acceptable hatred of Israel

Being critical of Isreal's conduct is not the same as antisemitism. Not remotely.

Americans legit believe every other country on earth is anti semitic
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This isn't simple bullying. This is a mass shooter in waiting. And we do nothing.