Poll of the Day > Planet will be uninhabitable by 2030 [CB]

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http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/4/eaap9741
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That is not what the article says, and it may not be able to sustain as much life as it does now, but humans can and will be able to live here using technology for a very long time. We have the tech to teraform MARS if we were there, we can certainly survive any conditions on this planet. We could actually survive if the Sun went out for instance.
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That is not what the article says

Internet headlines in a nutshell
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Thanks for reminding me that I have lights on in my house that I don't need on currently.

wolfy42 posted...

That is not what the article says, and it may not be able to sustain as much life as it does now, but humans can and will be able to live here using technology for a very long time. We have the tech to teraform MARS if we were there, we can certainly survive any conditions on this planet. We could actually survive if the Sun went out for instance.

Also, it's atolls.
I mean, yeah that sucks, but it's not ALL LIFE ON EARTH.
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wolfy42 posted...

That is not what the article says, and it may not be able to sustain as much life as it does now, but humans can and will be able to live here using technology for a very long time. We have the tech to teraform MARS if we were there, we can certainly survive any conditions on this planet. We could actually survive if the Sun went out for instance.

it would be much easier terraforming earth than terraforming mars. Actually, I hope Earth's environment goes to shit because the experience/technology to fix it would be applicable to fixing other planets.
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The plan/map/steps to colonizing planets was pretty simple and spelled out in books for years.

Build a space station, keep expanding it, slowly bring resources up to it until.....

Create a biodome on the moon, mine for the few materials there, but primarily use it as a base of operations to build things you ship there from earth.....expand the bases on the moon until.....

Create biodomes on mars, where you can actually mine for resources. Build more biodomes, mine more resources, start breaking down ice into o2 for people to breathe.

Eventually teraform Mars (might take a long time), and have a true sustainable alternative to Earth.

Now much of that could have already been done if it was focused on all this time, but it was not.

We certainly could have a large space station by now, and more then likely a few bases on the moon. There are not a ton of resources there, so we might still be stuck at that point, but making good progress towards actually sending people to live on Mars full time.

Instead, we have made almost no progress at all in almost 50 years, and practically none in the last 20.

I'd say a good estimate of time from scratch to colonizing Mars would be 50-60 years of constant effort with the technology we have had, so if it had been a priority all this time, we could be there or almost there by now. Instead...bupkiss.
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You Earth Day phonies have been saying this for decades, and moving the goal posts every time.
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Good job I'll be alive to see it!
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wolfy42 posted...

The plan/map/steps to colonizing planets was pretty simple and spelled out in books for years.

Build a space station, keep expanding it, slowly bring resources up to it until.....

Create a biodome on the moon, mine for the few materials there, but primarily use it as a base of operations to build things you ship there from earth.....expand the bases on the moon until.....

Create biodomes on mars, where you can actually mine for resources. Build more biodomes, mine more resources, start breaking down ice into o2 for people to breathe.

Eventually teraform Mars (might take a long time), and have a true sustainable alternative to Earth.

Now much of that could have already been done if it was focused on all this time, but it was not.

We certainly could have a large space station by now, and more then likely a few bases on the moon. There are not a ton of resources there, so we might still be stuck at that point, but making good progress towards actually sending people to live on Mars full time.

Instead, we have made almost no progress at all in almost 50 years, and practically none in the last 20.

I'd say a good estimate of time from scratch to colonizing Mars would be 50-60 years of constant effort with the technology we have had, so if it had been a priority all this time, we could be there or almost there by now. Instead...bupkiss.

The government is not going to devote the resources needed for NASA to get this shit done, the hope is that companies like Space X and Virgin Galatic get this shit going. Back in the 60s the NASA budget was roughly 4-4.5% of the Federal Budget now that number is down to 0.5% so yeah talk about a huge decline.

Obviously there are extreme financial profits down the line to any colony that they could establish on Mars or some other planet with a extreme amount of untapped resources but there is a hell of a lot of expense in getting their initially and setting it up. I think if we had a habitable Earth like planet in our galaxy we would have seen more resources devoted to getting there.
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It's too bad there isn't an extremely simple solution to this problem.
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wolfy42 posted...

We could actually survive if the Sun went out for instance.

Uh...

shadowsword87 posted...

wolfy42 posted...

That is not what the article says, and it may not be able to sustain as much life as it does now, but humans can and will be able to live here using technology for a very long time. We have the tech to teraform MARS if we were there, we can certainly survive any conditions on this planet. We could actually survive if the Sun went out for instance.

Also, it's atolls.
I mean, yeah that sucks, but it's not ALL LIFE ON EARTH.

I tagged the topic as clickbate :V
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wolfy42 posted...

That is not what the article says

bless you for stopping clickbait <3
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Saying your shitposts are shitposts don't make them not shitposts, Lok
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wolfy42 posted...

We have the tech to teraform MARS if we were there, we can certainly survive any conditions on this planet. We could actually survive if the Sun went out for instance.

no we don't we'd be dead as soon as we ran out of resources
mars doesn't even have a stable rotational axis or a moon to give it tidal changes

in short, everything you've been told about going to mars is a giant propaganda lie to make americans feel like they live in a top tier1st world country

Back in the 60s the NASA budget was roughly 4-4.5% of the Federal Budget now that number is down to 0.5% so yeah talk about a huge decline.

it was more about making 'democracy' look like the good guy and building space missiles than it was exploration of the unknown

the gov't does not care about science unless they can make a penny off of it, they don't even care about clean water.

Nightengale posted...

Saying your shitposts are shitposts don't make them not shitposts, Lok

I do have a dedicated gaming topic up... it has ONE post
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wolfy42 posted...

We have the tech to teraform MARS if we were there, we can certainly survive any conditions on this planet.

We can't even take care of Earth :/
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