Board 8 > Hearthstone Discussion Topic: MONSTER HUNT

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Poor mage didn't know what to do when I loaded the board with 7 armorsmiths, and then whirlwinded twice for 98 armor.
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Thoughts overall on the changes

1. Naga Sea Witch
-I dont play wild but this is a great change. Because it kills the card. Screw it going back to what it was lol. No one played that version right? Now people can still do this... only 3 turns later as a meme instead of an oppressive deck type.

2. Lackey
-Probably the most reasonable change. I like this over pact I think (even though pact to 2 would have been more disruptive overall). I will say that as someone who does play a lot of aggro this is a significant change and I think without the change to call that Paladins might have actually been even or maybe favored against warlock with this.

3. Dark Pact
-This is something I thought would be done. I said maybe down to 3, but 4 is not far off. While 2 would have killed more combos it also means the card can still be geisted.

4. Call to Arms
-Even Paladin is dead. I don't think Murloc Paladin is like that heavily affected by it because it already has a normally strong play on 4 with Megasaur a lot of times. However, I feel like murloc paladin has been falling out of favor so it'll be interesting if the nerfs to probably its biggest threat (warlock) can help it enough.

5. Spiteful Summoner
-I'm not sure how much impact this actually has in the control matchup, but in the aggro matchup this makes the deck a lot weaker.

6. Quest Rogue
-I wish they would have just completely killed the deck. I don't think this is going to change much. Basically the intent of this nerf is to simply lower the play rate of the deck, but it's still going to be used for an anti-control deck and I don't think the win rate it has against control is going to suffer much. This is a problem in any meta where control (or not aggro) has become a dominant archetype because it means the deck will see play and force certain decks out of the meta completely.
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azuarc posted...

Poor mage didn't know what to do when I loaded the board with 7 armorsmiths, and then whirlwinded twice for 98 armor.

How do you kill anyone though? Lol.

I tried it out, was laughing when I got up over 120 health, but didn't hold up for very long. Once your board dies you just never get anything back with no draw and a maximum 1-attack minion per turn. I got destroyed by a guy running Witch's Apprentice + DK Thrall.

I think its the 22nd

Also I think Warlock will still be T1 thanks to Skull and Cube but time will tell I guess, theres still a crazy amount of strong cards in Standard, some of which have yet to truly be utilized
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Hunter has 5 minions, I have 1. Grand Archivist's Ultimate Infestation hits his face and ensures he has lethal damage instead of hitting one of his minions.

Hearthstone will never be skill based so long as there is an RNG element ensuring artificial balance instead of balance based on player decisions. This game is 100% RNG, 0% skill.

Boo hoo, I missed a 5/8. You are trash

turbopuns2 posted...

azuarc posted...

Poor mage didn't know what to do when I loaded the board with 7 armorsmiths, and then whirlwinded twice for 98 armor.

How do you kill anyone though? Lol.

I tried it out, was laughing when I got up over 120 health, but didn't hold up for very long. Once your board dies you just never get anything back with no draw and a maximum 1-attack minion per turn. I got destroyed by a guy running Witch's Apprentice + DK Thrall.

This is true, and that's what happened to me in my first game against a hunter. He just rebuilt afterwards. But I also didn't go 7-wide against him in that game because I was fighting off his minions. The mage, however, had fireball and I didn't see the other card. Limited damage potential. I'd have won in fatigue, and it would have taken forever. The mage knew that and quit.
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When you use the search function in the collection manager, how does it work here for everyone else? I used to just click on it, type whatever in and it searched, but now when I click on it it opens up a second search above the card display and the one below it disappears. On top of that, it doesn't seem to reset to default all of the time when I hit the red x but continues to show the narrowed results, and if I make a second search it just continues to show the results from the first search.

https://imgur.com/t0xhU6j

https://imgur.com/y110LAX

Probably have to copy those to open them, because imgur.
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Yes that search box is a pain in the ass. I've almost posted here about it multiple times. I don't understand how it's gone unchanged for as long as it has.

It just happened to me a couple of days ago, used to work perfectly fine before that.
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Really? Are you sure? Everything you described has been that way for as long as I can remember. I do vaguely recall there being some point in the past when it changed, but that seems like forever ago.

This has been a thing Ive noticed a few months back but I know it didnt used to do that
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Yeah, it's very recent for me.
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Mine has never done that, and is still not like that.
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I didn't play at all between early KFT and Witchwood and I'm 95% sure it was annoying me like that before I took a long break.

This Tavern Brawl has been the only time I've tolerated the "Win X Tavern Brawls" quest.

You essentially know on turn 1 if you're going to win or not so it's easy to concede and queue up a new game. I got the 3 wins in about 10 minutes.
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what are some of the longest brawls you all have had for this one that were actually close? I had a game of Armorsmith + Warpath vs. Secretkeeper + Hydrologist that got really close to fatigue. Granted, my opponent should have conceded much sooner than he did.

have you tried chess
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Chess sucks. White always wins, luck and no skill.

turbopuns2 posted...

what are some of the longest brawls you all have had for this one that were actually close?

Soulfire and Clutchmother vs. Arcane Missiles and Black Cat

Drafted a rogue, it had no vilespines, backstabs, evis, SI:7s etc. It had one copy of Envenom Weapon, Tar Creeper, and a Stonehill.

It went 7 wins. All 3 of my losses were to Paladins.
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Also got Sindrogosa from a pack. Which is neat because I wanted it anyway for my Control Mage. Which I am still playing despite it losing a lot.

I actually think I might stop opening pack soon and just horde gold. Despite it being the newest set I don't think it's worth it to open Witchwood packs for me anymore since I already have Crowly, Genn, Baku, Toki, and the Glass Knight.
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I started hoarding gold thirty minutes after opening my first Witchwood pack. I'm stingy.
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I've always spent all my gold on arena. I think I've only ever purchased about 5 packs with gold.

I might soonish, theres some fringe Legendaries Im missing (Kalimos, Mosh, the Recruit Warrior Legendaries, Sindragosa all in particular) but nothing Im super interested in crafting unless theres some major meta development/cool deck idea
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I used to buy arena runs but stopped over the past few months because Ive thought constricted was really good overall. But now its like really bad which is why I did a rare run.
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I have a warlock run sitting at 0-0. I always draft and then forget to play my run.

arena's just more fun to me than constructed in any game where there's an equivalent
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Tom Bombadil posted...

arena's just more fun to me than constructed in any game where there's an equivalent

I totally disagree. You can't make meme decks in the arena like in constructed.
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I don't have enough cards for good meme decks :(
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Running Hearthstone under Windows 7 compatibility fixed the search bug problem for me.
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For the first time in awhile, I actually looked forward to coming home from work and playing this.

Then I lost 6 straight games. hmmmm
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I swear, Blizzard announces nerfs, and everybody goes into try-hard mode.
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azuarc posted...

I swear, Blizzard announces nerfs, and everybody goes into try-hard mode.

Theres also a resurgence of players. News=stimulation, so people start playing again when they hated the meta. Its easier to stomach constructed knowing it will be different soon.

Lmfao I looked at my deck and was like wow there are a lot of dragons in mage and made a dragon mage. Its so bad, but not bad enough to lose to a quest priest

Seriously mage needs some sort of deck buffer or killer The other three control classes (warlock, warrior, priest) all have one.
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Oh hey Even Shaman is finally getting its resurgence

I dont think it has much game against Warlock or Priest but oh well
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Just had a brawl go to double fatigue.

Fire Plume Harbinger + Earthen Might
vs.
Witch's Apprentice + Volcano

Man, what a crazy match that was. It ended rather poetically, with my last volcano doing exactly enough to take out his very last card, which was a 10 mana Pyros. I had no means of damage left, but the one healing rain I drew from apprentice ensured I survived longer.

The two unstable evolutions I drew totally whiffed. One pulled a faerie dragon which killed it. Another ended up landing on grand archivist when I had board, and he cast volcano obviously which cleared my board. lol. Although I did get in a leeroy jenkins hit to face on the second one.

Did the quest that gives you a pack for beating Dungeon Run bosses get replaced by the Monster Hunt pack quest, or are they both still available?
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Camden posted...

Did the quest that gives you a pack for beating Dungeon Run bosses get replaced by the Monster Hunt pack quest, or are they both still available?

They are both still available
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I got the Dungeon Run one like a week ago and was confused when Monster Hunt bosses weren't doing anything. I had to read it again to realize what was going on.
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Literally nerfing a legendary, an epic, and a rare. How dumb can people be?

Just ended a Wild game as Hunter with two Kel'Thuzads on the board when I had none whatsoever in my deck and no way to generate any.

Went up against an Even Shaman who Coin->Dirty Rat'd on Turn 1 and pulled out my Sylvanas. I played Mad Scientist and passed, hoping to force him to play stuff to deal with it, since I knew he wouldn't be able to Hex until Turn 4 now, but I forgot Devolve was a card. It turned my Mad Scientist into a Crystalline Oracle, which then gave me HIS Kel'Thuzad. I was able to play it on Turn 8 and get back 3 minions. He didn't have Hex, so I was then able to use Faceless Manipulator on my own Kel'Thuzad.

GG.
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ColZach posted...

Literally nerfing a legendary, an epic, and a rare. How dumb can people be?

They probably think skull should be nerfed since it can summon "infinite" demons. Even though it can be directly countered unlike recruit in some situations.
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YellowSUV posted...

ColZach posted...

Literally nerfing a legendary, an epic, and a rare. How dumb can people be?

They probably think skull should be nerfed since it can summon "infinite" demons. Even though it can be directly countered unlike recruit in some situations.

Speaking of "how dumb can people be", you're quoting someone (Donny) known for using alts to flood the moderation system and troll people, just FYI. He's known as such on the Hearthstone boards, too. The guy botched trying to vandalize the Board 8 wiki and didn't bother to check who the admins were there.

And Caverns Below doesn't count, since it was already nerfed once and Blizzard gets to avoid massive dust refunds.
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