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clearaflagrantj 04/30/18 9:12:58 AM #1:	If white people didn't adopt elements of other people's cultures we'd be labeled nationalistic, egocentric When minorities adopt other people's cultures it is celebrated (as it should be). Cultural appropriation is just another cheap trick in the arsenal of the perpetual whiny victim. <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:900557950] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>If white people didn't adopt elements of other people's cultures we'd be labeled nationalistic, egocentric When minorities adopt other people's cultures it is celebrated (as it should be). Cultural appropriation is just another cheap trick in the arsenal of the perpetual whiny victim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
notblargg 04/30/18 9:15:27 AM #2:	yeah, I don't remember when this became a thing, but I've never really understood it unless you're mocking native americans or something <cite>notblargg posted [p:900558025] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>yeah, I don't remember when this became a thing, but I've never really understood it unless you're mocking native americans or something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 04/30/18 9:16:52 AM #3:	the other day i saw a man eating General Tso's Chicken, and I was so disgusted by this blatant display of racism that I had to go into the alley and throw up --- http://i.imgur.com/LhwwG.gif <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:900558059] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>the other day i saw a man eating General Tso's Chicken, and I was so disgusted by this blatant display of racism that I had to go into the alley and throw up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 04/30/18 9:18:06 AM #4:	Back in my day cultural appropriation was called cultural exchange --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:900558109] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>Back in my day cultural appropriation was called cultural exchange</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coinstarcad 04/30/18 9:20:07 AM #5:	Some would argue that cultural appropriation is neutral but the intent behind using it can be good or bad. <cite>coinstarcad posted [p:900558175] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>Some would argue that cultural appropriation is neutral but the intent behind using it can be good or bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fallacia 04/30/18 9:22:52 AM #6:	The idea of cultural appropriation as a negative is less about white people adopting things and more about white people being considered stylish or bold for adopting something while people of color are seen as thuggish or unprofessional for the same styles. I would agree that anyone complaining about cultural appropriation simply because someone is using a style needs to chill a bit and stop blaming the people who are adopting that fashion, but the idea that society rewards or labels people differently is one that is definitely true. It's the double standard that is the real issue. --- Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of fur Happy kitty, sleepy kitty, purr purr purr <cite>Fallacia posted [p:900558253] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>The idea of cultural appropriation as a negative is less about white people adopting things and more about white people being considered stylish or bold for adopting something while people of color are seen as thuggish or unprofessional for the same styles. I would agree that anyone complaining about cultural appropriation simply because someone is using a style needs to chill a bit and stop blaming the people who are adopting that fashion, but the idea that society rewards or labels people differently is one that is definitely true. It's the double standard that is the real issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 04/30/18 9:41:52 AM #8:	Fallacia posted... The idea of cultural appropriation as a negative is less about white people adopting things and more about white people being considered stylish or bold for adopting something while people of color are seen as thuggish or unprofessional for the same styles. I would agree that anyone complaining about cultural appropriation simply because someone is using a style needs to chill a bit and stop blaming the people who are adopting that fashion, but the idea that society rewards or labels people differently is one that is definitely true. It's the double standard that is the real issue. this <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:900558881] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fallacia posted...</cite> <quote>The idea of cultural appropriation as a negative is less about white people adopting things and more about white people being considered stylish or bold for adopting something while people of color are seen as thuggish or unprofessional for the same styles. I would agree that anyone complaining about cultural appropriation simply because someone is using a style needs to chill a bit and stop blaming the people who are adopting that fashion, but the idea that society rewards or labels people differently is one that is definitely true. It's the double standard that is the real issue.</quote> this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 04/30/18 9:43:12 AM #9:	coinstarcad posted... Some would argue that cultural appropriation is neutral but the intent behind using it can be good or bad. Fallacia posted... The idea of cultural appropriation as a negative is less about white people adopting things and more about white people being considered stylish or bold for adopting something while people of color are seen as thuggish or unprofessional for the same styles. I would agree that anyone complaining about cultural appropriation simply because someone is using a style needs to chill a bit and stop blaming the people who are adopting that fashion, but the idea that society rewards or labels people differently is one that is definitely true. It's the double standard that is the real issue. These two are pretty spot on clearaflagrantj posted... If white people didn't adopt elements of other people's cultures we'd be labeled nationalistic, egocentric When minorities adopt other people's cultures it is celebrated (as it should be). Cultural appropriation is just another cheap trick in the arsenal of the perpetual whiny victim. Well thats because only the bigger culture can misappropriate and in most of the places its an issue, white people are the bigger culture Also its not about taking on different aspects of a culture, its about taking on and warping the meaning of different aspects of culture --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:900558937] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>coinstarcad posted...</cite> <quote>Some would argue that cultural appropriation is neutral but the intent behind using it can be good or bad.</quote> <cite>Fallacia posted...</cite> <quote>The idea of cultural appropriation as a negative is less about white people adopting things and more about white people being considered stylish or bold for adopting something while people of color are seen as thuggish or unprofessional for the same styles. I would agree that anyone complaining about cultural appropriation simply because someone is using a style needs to chill a bit and stop blaming the people who are adopting that fashion, but the idea that society rewards or labels people differently is one that is definitely true. It's the double standard that is the real issue.</quote> These two are pretty spot on <cite>clearaflagrantj posted...</cite> <quote>If white people didn't adopt elements of other people's cultures we'd be labeled nationalistic, egocentric When minorities adopt other people's cultures it is celebrated (as it should be). Cultural appropriation is just another cheap trick in the arsenal of the perpetual whiny victim.</quote> Well thats because only the bigger culture can misappropriate and in most of the places its an issue, white people are the bigger culture Also its not about taking on different aspects of a culture, its about taking on and warping the meaning of different aspects of culture</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/30/18 9:46:14 AM #10:	Asherlee10 posted... I agree with the OP. I have yet to hear a sound argument in favor of cultural appropriation. That Robblr or whatever guy has attempted so many times and it just makes him more racist, IMO. Meh, I can see their point on some level. Maybe cultural sensitivity is better wording. Bad metaphor: What do you think the white American reaction would be if they introduced Jesus Christface Diapers, with big pictures of Jesus on the ass of the diaper? Or if Japan had a surge in popularity of Bible Verse Toilet paper. Or American flag/bill of rights fireworks that you set ablaze. People would be upset. It's not so much the melding of culture that's a bad thing, it's the degrading of views and idealogy that is important to people. Not assilimation but domination. We've seen religious or cultural symbols and concepts that have rich histories and mean a lot to certain people turn into amusing jokes, tattoos and fashion items. I mean if you want a sensationalized but accurate example look no further than the Swastika. Adapting cultures and enjoying new things is a good idea. Splitting clothes ,food and idealogies by race or sex or creed is dumb. But you're lying if you claim you can't comprehend why it might upset people for the literally ignorant to turn what they see as important and degrade it into a whimiscal silliness or worse, spiteful anger. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:900559049] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I agree with the OP. I have yet to hear a sound argument in favor of cultural appropriation. That Robblr or whatever guy has attempted so many times and it just makes him more racist, IMO.</quote> Meh, I can see their point on some level. Maybe cultural sensitivity is better wording. Bad metaphor: What do you think the white American reaction would be if they introduced Jesus Christface Diapers, with big pictures of Jesus on the ass of the diaper? Or if Japan had a surge in popularity of Bible Verse Toilet paper. Or American flag/bill of rights fireworks that you set ablaze. People would be upset. It's not so much the melding of culture that's a bad thing, it's the degrading of views and idealogy that is important to people. Not assilimation but domination. We've seen religious or cultural symbols and concepts that have rich histories and mean a lot to certain people turn into amusing jokes, tattoos and fashion items. I mean if you want a sensationalized but accurate example look no further than the Swastika. Adapting cultures and enjoying new things is a good idea. Splitting clothes ,food and idealogies by race or sex or creed is dumb. But you're lying if you claim you can't comprehend why it might upset people for the literally ignorant to turn what they see as important and degrade it into a whimiscal silliness or worse, spiteful anger.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/30/18 9:54:50 AM #12:	Asherlee10 posted... 3. Right, but that's not what this is. That's disrespecting a cultural, which is not adopting the culture. That's the soup tho. What a lot of people claim is adopting, is seen as disrespectful by those who grew up with that culture. Which they then call appropriation. Hence the debate and while I disagree with it, I see their side. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:900559319] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote> 3. Right, but that's not what this is. That's disrespecting a cultural, which is not adopting the culture. </quote> That's the soup tho. What a lot of people claim is adopting, is seen as disrespectful by those who grew up with that culture. Which they then call appropriation. Hence the debate and while I disagree with it, I see their side.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 04/30/18 9:56:11 AM #13:	Like most things its been hijacked and ruined by idiots over time. At the end of the day people just want their culture recognized when its being used elsewhere. Don't take something from one culture and act like it was always yours. Like, if a fashion company in America started to make Saris and they talked about it like "I just got this idea to use this fabric in this way and just threw it all together!"...that wouldn't be cool because it refuses to acknowledge the people who actually made it and the most likely place where that designer got the idea from. Unfortunately these days people don't understand that and they take it to mean "you wore a dress from my culture you're a culture stealing bitch"...and that shit isn't cool. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:900559366] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>Like most things its been hijacked and ruined by idiots over time. At the end of the day people just want their culture recognized when its being used elsewhere. Don't take something from one culture and act like it was always yours. Like, if a fashion company in America started to make Saris and they talked about it like "I just got this idea to use this fabric in this way and just threw it all together!"...that wouldn't be cool because it refuses to acknowledge the people who actually made it and the most likely place where that designer got the idea from. Unfortunately these days people don't understand that and they take it to mean "you wore a dress from my culture you're a culture stealing bitch"...and that shit isn't cool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 04/30/18 9:57:46 AM #14:	Asherlee10 posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Asherlee10 posted... I agree with the OP. I have yet to hear a sound argument in favor of cultural appropriation. That Robblr or whatever guy has attempted so many times and it just makes him more racist, IMO. 1. Meh, I can see their point on some level. Maybe cultural sensitivity is better wording. 2. Bad metaphor: What do you think the white American reaction would be if they introduced Jesus Christface Diapers, with big pictures of Jesus on the ass of the diaper? Or if Japan had a surge in popularity of Bible Verse Toilet paper. Or American flag/bill of rights fireworks that you set ablaze. People would be upset. 3. It's not so much the melding of culture that's a bad thing, it's the degrading of views and idealogy that is important to people. Not assilimation but domination. We've seen religious or cultural symbols and concepts that have rich histories and mean a lot to certain people turn into amusing jokes, tattoos and fashion items. I mean if you want a sensationalized but accurate example look no further than the Swastika. Adapting cultures and enjoying new things is a good idea. Splitting clothes ,food and idealogies by race or sex or creed is dumb. But you're lying if you claim you can't comprehend why it might upset people for the literally ignorant to turn what they see as important and degrade it into a whimiscal silliness or worse, spiteful anger. I enumerated your post for reference. 1. Those would be two separate terms for a reason. Cultural sensitivity is being conscious of other people's cultural, isn't it? Cultural appropriation is the "adoption of the elements of a minority culture by members of the dominant culture." 2. I don't understand a thing you wrote here. 3. Right, but that's not what this is. That's disrespecting a cultural, which is not adopting the culture. The problem here is terminology. The terminology exists, so we should use it to separate all of these instances. Youre slightly misinformed while your definition of cultural apporation is right, thats not generally what people complain about, its more accurate to say people are complaining about cultural misapporation, which hes kinda spot on about So cultural apporation as a term is neither negative nor positive but is used mainly in the negative sense --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:900559424] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I agree with the OP. I have yet to hear a sound argument in favor of cultural appropriation. That Robblr or whatever guy has attempted so many times and it just makes him more racist, IMO.</quote> 1. Meh, I can see their point on some level. Maybe cultural sensitivity is better wording. 2. Bad metaphor: What do you think the white American reaction would be if they introduced Jesus Christface Diapers, with big pictures of Jesus on the ass of the diaper? Or if Japan had a surge in popularity of Bible Verse Toilet paper. Or American flag/bill of rights fireworks that you set ablaze. People would be upset. 3. It's not so much the melding of culture that's a bad thing, it's the degrading of views and idealogy that is important to people. Not assilimation but domination. We've seen religious or cultural symbols and concepts that have rich histories and mean a lot to certain people turn into amusing jokes, tattoos and fashion items. I mean if you want a sensationalized but accurate example look no further than the Swastika. Adapting cultures and enjoying new things is a good idea. Splitting clothes ,food and idealogies by race or sex or creed is dumb. But you're lying if you claim you can't comprehend why it might upset people for the literally ignorant to turn what they see as important and degrade it into a whimiscal silliness or worse, spiteful anger.</quote> I enumerated your post for reference. 1. Those would be two separate terms for a reason. Cultural sensitivity is being conscious of other people's cultural, isn't it? Cultural appropriation is the "adoption of the elements of a minority culture by members of the dominant culture." 2. I don't understand a thing you wrote here. 3. Right, but that's not what this is. That's disrespecting a cultural, which is not adopting the culture. The problem here is terminology. The terminology exists, so we should use it to separate all of these instances.</quote> Youre slightly misinformed while your definition of cultural apporation is right, thats not generally what people complain about, its more accurate to say people are complaining about cultural misapporation, which hes kinda spot on about So cultural apporation as a term is neither negative nor positive but is used mainly in the negative sense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 04/30/18 10:00:18 AM #17:	TheVipaGTS posted... Like most things its been hijacked and ruined by idiots over time. At the end of the day people just want their culture recognized when its being used elsewhere. Don't take something from one culture and act like it was always yours. Like, if a fashion company in America started to make Saris and they talked about it like "I just got this idea to use this fabric in this way and just threw it all together!"...that wouldn't be cool because it refuses to acknowledge the people who actually made it and the most likely place where that designer got the idea from. Unfortunately these days people don't understand that and they take it to mean "you wore a dress from my culture you're a culture stealing bitch"...and that shit isn't cool. I can see why people are like that though, you give someone an inch they take a mile. You shouldnt use something thats obviously exotic to you and not understand it --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:900559529] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Like most things its been hijacked and ruined by idiots over time. At the end of the day people just want their culture recognized when its being used elsewhere. Don't take something from one culture and act like it was always yours. Like, if a fashion company in America started to make Saris and they talked about it like "I just got this idea to use this fabric in this way and just threw it all together!"...that wouldn't be cool because it refuses to acknowledge the people who actually made it and the most likely place where that designer got the idea from. Unfortunately these days people don't understand that and they take it to mean "you wore a dress from my culture you're a culture stealing bitch"...and that shit isn't cool.</quote> I can see why people are like that though, you give someone an inch they take a mile. You shouldnt use something thats obviously exotic to you and not understand it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 04/30/18 10:04:34 AM #18:	Asherlee10 posted... gamepimp12 posted... Youre slightly misinformed while your definition of cultural apporation is right, thats not generally what people complain about, its more accurate to say people are complaining about cultural misapporation, which hes kinda spot on about So cultural apporation as a term is neither negative nor positive but is used mainly in the negative sense I think a response to this would be in #15 I feel like youre still stuck on people misusing the term, when theyre not theyre just not using the best term Cultural apporation incompases both diffusion and mispporation (generally good, and bad) So they cant be using the wrong term by using apporation --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:900559656] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>Youre slightly misinformed while your definition of cultural apporation is right, thats not generally what people complain about, its more accurate to say people are complaining about cultural misapporation, which hes kinda spot on about So cultural apporation as a term is neither negative nor positive but is used mainly in the negative sense</quote> I think a response to this would be in #15</quote> I feel like youre still stuck on people misusing the term, when theyre not theyre just not using the best term Cultural apporation incompases both diffusion and mispporation (generally good, and bad) So they cant be using the wrong term by using apporation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 04/30/18 10:15:12 AM #20:	No, as far as Ive been taught appropriation is all incompassing. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:900560002] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>No, as far as Ive been taught appropriation is all incompassing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 04/30/18 10:31:39 AM #21:	Thankfully it's an internet thing In real life no one cares about this s* --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:900560620] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>Thankfully it's an internet thing In real life no one cares about this s*</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 04/30/18 10:33:16 AM #22:	America is a country whose culture was founded on Cultural appropriation. I don't see it as a bad thing. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:900560685] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>America is a country whose culture was founded on Cultural appropriation. I don't see it as a bad thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 04/30/18 11:02:17 AM #23:	UnfairRepresent posted... Asherlee10 posted... 3. Right, but that's not what this is. That's disrespecting a cultural, which is not adopting the culture. That's the soup tho. What a lot of people claim is adopting, is seen as disrespectful by those who grew up with that culture. Which they then call appropriation. Hence the debate and while I disagree with it, I see their side. Funny thing is, most of the people who grew up with that culture don't give a shit. It is the whiny people who are not part of that culture that do. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:900561885] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote> 3. Right, but that's not what this is. That's disrespecting a cultural, which is not adopting the culture. </quote> That's the soup tho. What a lot of people claim is adopting, is seen as disrespectful by those who grew up with that culture. Which they then call appropriation. Hence the debate and while I disagree with it, I see their side.</quote> Funny thing is, most of the people who grew up with that culture don't give a shit. It is the whiny people who are not part of that culture that do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 04/30/18 11:04:16 AM #24:	If you're mocking a culture it's one thing But shit like the prom dress fiasco that's been going around on twitter is so stupid --- DezCaughtIt AKA freakofnature30 Brockhampton makes me *saturate* <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:900561991] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>If you're mocking a culture it's one thing But shit like the prom dress fiasco that's been going around on twitter is so stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 04/30/18 11:09:44 AM #25:	More nonsense the far left made up to get triggered about. Its annoying how the far left has to behave like perpetually offended lunatics and make everyone on the left look bad. --- "Just Karate chop the nightmare into submission." -Laurie1527 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:900562243] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>More nonsense the far left made up to get triggered about. Its annoying how the far left has to behave like perpetually offended lunatics and make everyone on the left look bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/30/18 11:10:57 AM #26:	Asherlee10 posted... People that say that something is cultural adoption or appropriation when it's really culture disrespect, are just wrong. That's a pretty bold and lazy claim. It just auto deflects any argument as "Well okay that's valid but thats cultural direspect! not appropriation!" When you're talking about literally the same thing --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:900562310] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote> People that say that something is cultural adoption or appropriation when it's really culture disrespect, are just wrong. </quote> That's a pretty bold and lazy claim. It just auto deflects any argument as "Well okay that's valid but thats cultural direspect! not appropriation!" When you're talking about literally the same thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 04/30/18 11:12:17 AM #27:	Damn_Underscore posted... Thankfully it's an internet thing In real life no one cares about this s* In real life, groups of people boycott stores to force them to discontinue the sale of products or stop services, they also organize live protests, commit riots and get people fired. This is not just an internet thing. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:900562370] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Thankfully it's an internet thing In real life no one cares about this s*</quote> In real life, groups of people boycott stores to force them to discontinue the sale of products or stop services, they also organize live protests, commit riots and get people fired. This is not just an internet thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 04/30/18 11:17:55 AM #28:	Cultural appropriation isn't simply enjoying things from another culture. It's when you: a) Exploit aspects of this culture for personal gain without respect for the people who are actually apart of it or b) Present said culture in a stereotypical, mocking and inauthentic way. EDIT: There's also c) taking someone's culture and claiming that it's your's --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:900562621] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>Cultural appropriation isn't simply enjoying things from another culture. It's when you: a) Exploit aspects of this culture for personal gain without respect for the people who are actually apart of it or b) Present said culture in a stereotypical, mocking and inauthentic way. EDIT: There's also c) taking someone's culture and claiming that it's your's</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 04/30/18 11:20:05 AM #30:	I can think of a few examples that make me think the argument has some merit in specific contexts, but generally yeah, the cultural appropriation discussion is getting way out of hand. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:900562714] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>I can think of a few examples that make me think the argument has some merit in specific contexts, but generally yeah, the cultural appropriation discussion is getting way out of hand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medz1286 04/30/18 11:21:18 AM #31:	http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/920/049/c09.png --- Hi <cite>Medz1286 posted [p:900562784] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/920/049/c09.png</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 04/30/18 11:24:27 AM #32:	Asherlee10 posted... My point is that cultural appropriation or adoption is not inherently negative and will never be. Cultural disrespect or misappropriation is. Those are two separate concepts with two separate names. I'm not sure where your definition of cultural appropriation is coming from. Your argument seems to be based on people "misusing" the word, but even your term cultural misappropriation seems to be a subset of cultural appropriation, not its own thing. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:900562907] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>My point is that cultural appropriation or adoption is not inherently negative and will never be. Cultural disrespect or misappropriation is. Those are two separate concepts with two separate names. </quote> I'm not sure where your definition of cultural appropriation is coming from. Your argument seems to be based on people "misusing" the word, but even your term cultural misappropriation seems to be a subset of cultural appropriation, not its own thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 04/30/18 11:27:50 AM #34:	It is ironically a rather misappropriated term. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:900563068] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>It is ironically a rather misappropriated term.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medz1286 04/30/18 11:29:05 AM #35:	http://www.strangebeaver.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/fb55/facebook-fail-55-12.jpg --- Hi <cite>Medz1286 posted [p:900563110] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>http://www.strangebeaver.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/fb55/facebook-fail-55-12.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 04/30/18 11:29:41 AM #36:	Complaining about "cultural appropriation" is just a way for clowns on Twitter to pretend that they're making a positive difference in the world without actually lifting a finger to do any good. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:900563135] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>Complaining about "cultural appropriation" is just a way for clowns on Twitter to pretend that they're making a positive difference in the world without actually lifting a finger to do any good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
supercurrymax 04/30/18 11:31:33 AM #37:	No. There is a difference between getting involved and involving yourself. --- i like chicken. <cite>supercurrymax posted [p:900563210] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>No. There is a difference between getting involved and involving yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medz1286 04/30/18 11:56:44 AM #38:	--- Hi <cite>Medz1286 posted [p:900564309] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 04/30/18 12:22:51 PM #39:	Medz1286 posted... lmao --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:900565539] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medz1286 posted...</cite> <quote></quote> lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 04/30/18 12:29:25 PM #40:	Ivynn posted... Back in my day cultural appropriation was called cultural exchange --- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:900565820] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ivynn posted...</cite> <quote>Back in my day cultural appropriation was called cultural exchange</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 04/30/18 12:30:08 PM #41:	notblargg posted... yeah, I don't remember when this became a thing, but I've never really understood it unless you're mocking native americans or something Its been a huge deal in rap for years. For some reason that musical genre has become a lightning rod for the term --- I am basically am I. Well, basically. <cite>masticatingman posted [p:900565851] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>notblargg posted...</cite> <quote>yeah, I don't remember when this became a thing, but I've never really understood it unless you're mocking native americans or something</quote> Its been a huge deal in rap for years. For some reason that musical genre has become a lightning rod for the term</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 04/30/18 12:31:31 PM #42:	It's misconstrued by people on both sides. It's not cultural appropriation for Iggy Azalea to sing like she's black. But garbage like beer yoga shouldn't exist. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:900565902] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote>It's misconstrued by people on both sides. It's not cultural appropriation for Iggy Azalea to sing like she's black. But garbage like beer yoga shouldn't exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 04/30/18 12:55:59 PM #43:	DarkChozoGhost posted... It's misconstrued by people on both sides. It's not cultural appropriation for Iggy Azalea to sing like she's black. But garbage like beer yoga shouldn't exist. Agreed. Where the Iggy Azalea example comes into question are people like Miley Cyrus though. To shed her "good girl" image she basically adopted another "culture", then when she grew up and decided she didn't want to do that anymore she just went back to her "good girl" image. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:900567074] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote>It's misconstrued by people on both sides. It's not cultural appropriation for Iggy Azalea to sing like she's black. But garbage like beer yoga shouldn't exist.</quote> Agreed. Where the Iggy Azalea example comes into question are people like Miley Cyrus though. To shed her "good girl" image she basically adopted another "culture", then when she grew up and decided she didn't want to do that anymore she just went back to her "good girl" image.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 04/30/18 12:58:11 PM #44:	TheVipaGTS posted... DarkChozoGhost posted... It's misconstrued by people on both sides. It's not cultural appropriation for Iggy Azalea to sing like she's black. But garbage like beer yoga shouldn't exist. Agreed. Where the Iggy Azalea example comes into question are people like Miley Cyrus though. To shed her "good girl" image she basically adopted another "culture", then when she grew up and decided she didn't want to do that anymore she just went back to her "good girl" image. Why does that matter? --- "Just Karate chop the nightmare into submission." -Laurie1527 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:900567178] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote>It's misconstrued by people on both sides. It's not cultural appropriation for Iggy Azalea to sing like she's black. But garbage like beer yoga shouldn't exist.</quote> Agreed. Where the Iggy Azalea example comes into question are people like Miley Cyrus though. To shed her "good girl" image she basically adopted another "culture", then when she grew up and decided she didn't want to do that anymore she just went back to her "good girl" image.</quote> Why does that matter?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 04/30/18 12:59:21 PM #45:	DarkChozoGhost posted... It's misconstrued by people on both sides. It's not cultural appropriation for Iggy Azalea to sing like she's black. But garbage like beer yoga shouldn't exist. Had to look that up. Jfc that shit is funny. Don't know how anyone could take someone doing that seriously. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:900567229] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote>It's misconstrued by people on both sides. It's not cultural appropriation for Iggy Azalea to sing like she's black. But garbage like beer yoga shouldn't exist.</quote>Had to look that up. Jfc that shit is funny. Don't know how anyone could take someone doing that seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 04/30/18 12:59:50 PM #46:	Zodd3224 posted... TheVipaGTS posted... DarkChozoGhost posted... It's misconstrued by people on both sides. It's not cultural appropriation for Iggy Azalea to sing like she's black. But garbage like beer yoga shouldn't exist. Agreed. Where the Iggy Azalea example comes into question are people like Miley Cyrus though. To shed her "good girl" image she basically adopted another "culture", then when she grew up and decided she didn't want to do that anymore she just went back to her "good girl" image. Why does that matter? We're discussing what cultural appropriation is and where it can be applied, yea? --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:900567252] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote>It's misconstrued by people on both sides. It's not cultural appropriation for Iggy Azalea to sing like she's black. But garbage like beer yoga shouldn't exist.</quote> Agreed. Where the Iggy Azalea example comes into question are people like Miley Cyrus though. To shed her "good girl" image she basically adopted another "culture", then when she grew up and decided she didn't want to do that anymore she just went back to her "good girl" image.</quote> Why does that matter?</quote> We're discussing what cultural appropriation is and where it can be applied, yea?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 04/30/18 1:02:59 PM #47:	TheVipaGTS posted... Zodd3224 posted... TheVipaGTS posted... DarkChozoGhost posted... It's misconstrued by people on both sides. It's not cultural appropriation for Iggy Azalea to sing like she's black. But garbage like beer yoga shouldn't exist. Agreed. Where the Iggy Azalea example comes into question are people like Miley Cyrus though. To shed her "good girl" image she basically adopted another "culture", then when she grew up and decided she didn't want to do that anymore she just went back to her "good girl" image. Why does that matter? We're discussing what cultural appropriation is and where it can be applied, yea? My question is, why is what she did considered a negative? --- "Just Karate chop the nightmare into submission." -Laurie1527 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:900567400] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote>It's misconstrued by people on both sides. It's not cultural appropriation for Iggy Azalea to sing like she's black. But garbage like beer yoga shouldn't exist.</quote> Agreed. Where the Iggy Azalea example comes into question are people like Miley Cyrus though. To shed her "good girl" image she basically adopted another "culture", then when she grew up and decided she didn't want to do that anymore she just went back to her "good girl" image.</quote> Why does that matter?</quote> We're discussing what cultural appropriation is and where it can be applied, yea?</quote> My question is, why is what she did considered a negative?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 04/30/18 1:04:22 PM #48:	Zodd3224 posted... My question is, why is what she did considered a negative? She used a different culture for her own gain, acted like she was a part of it, then when she got bored with it just threw it away. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:900567474] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>My question is, why is what she did considered a negative? </quote> She used a different culture for her own gain, acted like she was a part of it, then when she got bored with it just threw it away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
poppinblood 04/30/18 1:05:28 PM #49:	Asherlee10 posted... I agree with the OP. I have yet to hear a sound argument in favor of cultural appropriation. That Robblr or whatever guy has attempted so many times and it just makes him more racist, IMO. She called me a racist for saying ethnic groups dont get rewarded when white people sell their cultural items for profit? Do yall see the irony in this? They dont even get credited! --- robellr13 <cite>poppinblood posted [p:900567519] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I agree with the OP. I have yet to hear a sound argument in favor of cultural appropriation. That Robblr or whatever guy has attempted so many times and it just makes him more racist, IMO.</quote> She called me a racist for saying ethnic groups dont get rewarded when white people sell their cultural items for profit? Do yall see the irony in this? They dont even get credited!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 04/30/18 1:07:00 PM #50:	TheVipaGTS posted... Zodd3224 posted... My question is, why is what she did considered a negative? She used a different culture for her own gain, acted like she was a part of it, then when she got bored with it just threw it away. This sounds like such a ridiculous thing to be upset about. She can behave anyway she wants. Who owns the culture she appropriated? Are there certain gatekeepers of the culture she has to ask permission from before she can behave a certain way? --- "Just Karate chop the nightmare into submission." -Laurie1527 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:900567597] in "Cult... [t:76565908]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>My question is, why is what she did considered a negative? </quote> She used a different culture for her own gain, acted like she was a part of it, then when she got bored with it just threw it away.</quote> This sounds like such a ridiculous thing to be upset about. She can behave anyway she wants. Who owns the culture she appropriated? Are there certain gatekeepers of the culture she has to ask permission from before she can behave a certain way?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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