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tennisdude818 04/30/18 1:07:39 PM #51: |
Cultural appropriation is one of those things that is only bad when white people do it. Basically, when people accuse you of cultural appropriation its a sign that the accuser has a problem with white people.
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apocalyptic_4 04/30/18 1:09:35 PM #52: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Cultural appropriation isn't simply enjoying things from another culture. It's when you: Exactly. Yet people ignore this and complain it's liberal SJW propaganda --- PSN: Adrian396 XBL: Prime Legacy Nintendo ID: Apocalypse ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 04/30/18 1:10:21 PM #53: |
Zodd3224 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...Zodd3224 posted...My question is, why is what she did considered a negative? Sure she can behave how she wants but i think its fair to be upset about how she did it. she was a caricature of the culture. She didn't respect it. she just used it. on the flip side there is someone like Justin Timberlake who embraced the same culture with respect and was actually able to become a part of it. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 04/30/18 1:12:43 PM #54: |
apocalyptic_4 posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...Cultural appropriation isn't simply enjoying things from another culture. It's when you: No, getting upset about anything he posted is also being a whiney SJW. Getting offended over made up nonsense. No one owns certain cultural aspects, people can like, create, or use what they want regardless of their background. --- "Just Karate chop the nightmare into submission." -Laurie1527 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Infinite 2003 04/30/18 1:13:01 PM #55: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
Zodd3224 posted...TheVipaGTS posted...Zodd3224 posted...My question is, why is what she did considered a negative? You have to understand how utterly petty this sounds. --- Before I knew it there was poop on my lips. - squarion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 04/30/18 1:14:57 PM #56: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
Zodd3224 posted...TheVipaGTS posted...Zodd3224 posted...My question is, why is what she did considered a negative? She doesnt owe anyone anything. She doesnt have to "pay respects" to anyone. If I bothered being offfended by nonsense like this I would be more offended if white people felt the need to seek my approval before doing something "black." --- "Just Karate chop the nightmare into submission." -Laurie1527 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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i_eat_the_booty 04/30/18 1:17:53 PM #57: |
Infinite 2003 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...Zodd3224 posted...TheVipaGTS posted...Zodd3224 posted...My question is, why is what she did considered a negative? It doesn't sound petty at all lol. --- "I eat p****** like you every time I get in the pit" - ZombiePelican ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 04/30/18 1:19:12 PM #58: |
i_eat_the_booty posted...
Infinite 2003 posted...TheVipaGTS posted...Zodd3224 posted...TheVipaGTS posted...Zodd3224 posted...My question is, why is what she did considered a negative? It sounds extremely petty --- "Just Karate chop the nightmare into submission." -Laurie1527 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LJRENEGADE 04/30/18 1:19:55 PM #59: |
apocalyptic_4 posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...Cultural appropriation isn't simply enjoying things from another culture. It's when you: To be fair, there's always gonna be people who attack others and call it cultural appropriation for them just simply enjoying things from another culture. Like the whole high school girl in the Chinese dress thing. I sincerely doubt she was trying to mock or disrespect any Chinese people yet there's a lot of people attacking her for that. Also I have a problem with an individual telling other people what they can and can't do with "their" culture. No one person owns a culture or gets to dictate what other people are allowed to do with it. That's ridiculous. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 04/30/18 1:26:11 PM #60: |
Its such a needlesly devisive thing. We have enough real race issues and racism to deal with in this world without adding this stuff into the mix for no reason.
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i_eat_the_booty 04/30/18 1:26:25 PM #61: |
It's stupid to mock a culture or pretend you're a part of it when you really don't care about it. Not even remotely petty, it's basic common courtesy and tact
Now it is overblown in some cases. Like that guy who got mad at the girl wearing a Chinese prom dress. That guy was a clown. A lot of people misuse the hell out of 'cultural appropriation'. There shouldn't be anything wrong with enjoying things from another culture but if you can't see what's wrong with how Miley Cyrus was being tactless then idk what to tell you. You're just going to keep saying "petty" over and over because "there are no rules to what you can do" (which is a completely nonsensical argument) --- "I eat p****** like you every time I get in the pit" - ZombiePelican ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpreadManning 04/30/18 1:29:17 PM #62: |
Agreed. Complete nonsense.
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A_Good_Boy 04/30/18 1:29:37 PM #63: |
Zodd3224 posted...
Its such a needlesly devisive thing. We have enough real race issues and racism to deal with in this world without adding this stuff into the mix for no reason. You're the only one that's hyperventilating in an otherwise calm discussion. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 04/30/18 1:31:48 PM #64: |
Fallacia posted...
The idea of cultural appropriation as a negative is less about white people adopting things and more about white people being considered stylish or bold for adopting something while people of color are seen as thuggish or unprofessional for the same styles. Basically this; are there people who yell it at everything..yeah. But that is not what most people mean when you say this. Also to add to this act like someone was founded by white people when others did it before. Like discounting the black singers who came before Elvis. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 04/30/18 1:34:05 PM #65: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Zodd3224 posted...Its such a needlesly devisive thing. We have enough real race issues and racism to deal with in this world without adding this stuff into the mix for no reason. Yeah, my blood pressure is through the roof atm --- "Just Karate chop the nightmare into submission." -Laurie1527 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 04/30/18 1:45:00 PM #66: |
tennisdude818 posted...
Cultural appropriation is one of those things that is only bad when white people do it. Basically, when people accuse you of cultural appropriation its a sign that the accuser has a problem with white people. In America, the dominant culture is white, so any examples of cultural appropriation here are by definition going to be white people doing it. Asherlee10 posted... The unfortunate part is there aren't a lot of great sources for a solid definition which is also contributing to a misuse of the term. The most simple definition I could find (wiki first sentence): I generally agree that the term is neutral. I just don't think it's wrong for people to use it as a negative, considering that where that line is drawn is highly subjective anyway. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 04/30/18 1:50:43 PM #67: |
SJWs: She used another culture her own gain and just tossed it away!
If you want to be offended that badly, you could perform the same mental gymnastics if a white person eats Chinese food or watches kung fu. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 04/30/18 1:54:54 PM #68: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Bad metaphor: What do you think the white American reaction would be if they introduced Jesus Christface Diapers, with big pictures of Jesus on the ass of the diaper? Something quite similar actually happened: http://www.sweetjesus4life.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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poppinblood 04/30/18 1:55:40 PM #69: |
tennisdude818 posted...
SJWs: She used another culture her own gain and just tossed it away! Jesus Christ. You just dont get it. When you do an essay for research, does your professor penalize you for not citing your sources ? --- robellr13 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 04/30/18 2:00:41 PM #70: |
poppinblood posted...
tennisdude818 posted...SJWs: She used another culture her own gain and just tossed it away! So anytime anyone creates art or writes a song they have to cite their sources of inspiration? --- "Just Karate chop the nightmare into submission." -Laurie1527 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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southcoast09 04/30/18 2:04:39 PM #73: |
Its just more anti white racism.
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gamepimp12 04/30/18 2:07:49 PM #74: |
tennisdude818 posted...
SJWs: She used another culture her own gain and just tossed it away! It sounds like you guys dont understand it at a core principle. It isnt cultural apporation without a misuse of property. People have issues with Miley because what she did was make herself a characterization and stereotype of black culture to sell records, then completely distances herself from it once she was done --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 04/30/18 2:10:02 PM #75: |
southcoast09 posted...
Its just more anti white racism. For like the third time its only targeted at dominated cultures which happens to white in America. In another country its very easy for another race to culturally appropriate --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lorenzo_2003 04/30/18 2:20:15 PM #76: |
Zodd3224 posted...
So anytime anyone creates art or writes a song they have to cite their sources of inspiration? Yes, if you are white. These guys are trying to dance around it to avoid sounding racist, so theyre using the phrase dominant culture. If it was a white guy enjoying and being inspired by culture in China, Mexico or somewhere he is the minority, theyd still be criticizing him. --- ... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Infinite 2003 04/30/18 2:21:31 PM #77: |
gamepimp12 posted...
southcoast09 posted...Its just more anti white racism. It's always excuses like this. Nobody buys it --- Before I knew it there was poop on my lips. - squarion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cal12 04/30/18 2:22:34 PM #78: |
gamepimp12 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...SJWs: She used another culture her own gain and just tossed it away! Miley did a little bit of everything to be honest. It was more hyper sexual than anything else. She didnt appropriate anything to be honest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 04/30/18 2:34:31 PM #79: |
Asherlee10 posted...
See, here's where I don't think we can just differ in opinion. I do think it's inaccurate to categorize it as cultural appropriation vs cultural misappropriation. Misappropriation falls under appropriation. It's like dividing fruit into apples and non-apples and then saying someone calling an orange a fruit is using the wrong term. You've constructed it so that cultural appropriation is by definition neutral or good, because if it's bad then it "isn't" cultural appropriation. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rballastaker123 04/30/18 2:41:51 PM #80: |
Zodd3224 posted...
poppinblood posted...tennisdude818 posted...SJWs: She used another culture her own gain and just tossed it away! Uh yeah? Unless you want to get sued? Especially in the music business. --- Poppinblood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 04/30/18 2:43:45 PM #81: |
rballastaker123 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...poppinblood posted...tennisdude818 posted...SJWs: She used another culture her own gain and just tossed it away! LoL, that isn't true. Unless are using actual samples or beats from an existing song. --- "Just Karate chop the nightmare into submission." -Laurie1527 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aki_Narukami 04/30/18 2:52:34 PM #84: |
sampling is a good thing and should be fully legal with no restrictions
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Anteaterking 04/30/18 2:59:30 PM #85: |
Asherlee10 posted...
I don't think cultural appropriation is an umbrella term that includes cultural misappropriation. I see those as two separate concepts. There's not a historical or linguistical basis for that. It's not clear why you want things them to be complementary terms when the words you are using imply a different relationship. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 04/30/18 3:22:47 PM #87: |
tennisdude818 posted...
Cultural appropriation is one of those things that is only bad when white people do it. Basically, when people accuse you of cultural appropriation its a sign that the accuser has a problem with white people. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 04/30/18 3:24:00 PM #88: |
Funbazooka posted...
tennisdude818 posted...Cultural appropriation is one of those things that is only bad when white people do it. Basically, when people accuse you of cultural appropriation its a sign that the accuser has a problem with white people. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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i_eat_the_booty 04/30/18 3:27:32 PM #89: |
gamepimp12 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...SJWs: She used another culture her own gain and just tossed it away! I'm not sure why you guys are entertaining that idiot with a serious response given his first post itt --- "I eat p****** like you every time I get in the pit" - ZombiePelican ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rballastaker123 04/30/18 3:36:20 PM #90: |
Zodd3224 posted...
rballastaker123 posted...Zodd3224 posted...poppinblood posted...tennisdude818 posted...SJWs: She used another culture her own gain and just tossed it away! Likeness as well Cardi b had to pay Kodak black for using his flow on her song. --- Poppinblood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 04/30/18 3:37:42 PM #91: |
Anteaterking posted...
tennisdude818 posted...Cultural appropriation is one of those things that is only bad when white people do it. Basically, when people accuse you of cultural appropriation its a sign that the accuser has a problem with white people. I've been to Japan a few times. Thank goodness they don't share that SJW attitude. They borrow from other cultures all the time whether it's a 50's diner, french pastries, various musical genres from the West, etc. It's awesome. Over here we have SJWs who clutch their pearls in horror when a white person tries to sell tacos. I guess some people just enjoy getting offended. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 04/30/18 3:42:19 PM #92: |
Misuse of property? Whose property? Property denotes ownership. Culture is not owned. It doesn't stay the same either, it's malleable.
At the end of the day, calling the exchange of ideas, art, styles, traditions, etc. morally wrong is incompatible with any decent set of values that recognize freedom. At that point you've completely lost the plot. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 04/30/18 4:16:01 PM #93: |
Infinite 2003 posted...
gamepimp12 posted...southcoast09 posted...Its just more anti white racism. Its not an excuse if its the definition of the term its not even race bound, it just has to be a bigger culture taking from a smaller ones Cal12 posted... gamepimp12 posted...tennisdude818 posted...SJWs: She used another culture her own gain and just tossed it away! She made multiple songs about rap, weed, sex, diss artist,went to bet awards then rejected all of it and sent several shots about how crude the same kind of hip hop she was just making was. It was clearly appropriation --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 04/30/18 4:19:41 PM #94: |
Funbazooka posted...
Misuse of property? Whose property? Property denotes ownership. Culture is not owned. It doesn't stay the same either, it's malleable. Its not an exchange though. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LJRENEGADE 04/30/18 4:19:42 PM #95: |
gamepimp12 posted...
She made multiple songs about rap, weed, sex, diss artist,went to bet awards then rejected all of it and sent several shots about how crude the same kind of hip hop she was just making was. Eh, that sounds completely normal for a person her age to be into all that though. You know, except for being a celebrity and musician and all but you know what I mean. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 04/30/18 4:20:12 PM #96: |
Asherlee10 posted...
Anteaterking posted...Asherlee10 posted... Then youd be wrong --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 04/30/18 4:20:12 PM #97: |
gamepimp12 posted...
Infinite 2003 posted...gamepimp12 posted...southcoast09 posted...Its just more anti white racism. For the first part: It doesnt have to be explicitly race bound. A lot of people (including many on this board) use the word thug as replacement for the n word. The word thug isnt explicitly race bound, but it is still often used that way. Cultural appropriation isnt race bound, but lets face it, it is almost exclusively used against white people. For the second part: All I see is her either being a hypocrite, or she had a change of heart afterwards. Cultural appropriation isnt the issue here. --- "Just Karate chop the nightmare into submission." -Laurie1527 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 04/30/18 4:26:01 PM #98: |
LJRENEGADE posted...
gamepimp12 posted...She made multiple songs about rap, weed, sex, diss artist,went to bet awards then rejected all of it and sent several shots about how crude the same kind of hip hop she was just making was. Being into wasnt the problem, the problem was she looked like fucking malibus Most wanted on stage, and the second she was done she turned on it. This is someone whos on record for not listening to rap upuntill a few years prior --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 04/30/18 4:31:08 PM #99: |
gamepimp12 posted...
LJRENEGADE posted...gamepimp12 posted...She made multiple songs about rap, weed, sex, diss artist,went to bet awards then rejected all of it and sent several shots about how crude the same kind of hip hop she was just making was. A lot of entertainers adopt personas that arent what they are actually like IRL --- "Just Karate chop the nightmare into submission." -Laurie1527 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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