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IdiotMachine 04/02/18 8:50:48 PM #1:	In San Francisco, CA, for a family of 4: Low income limit is $117,400. Very low income limit is $73,300. Extremely low income limit is $44,000. Per the Department of Housing and Urban Development data for FY2018, accessible here: https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datasets/il.html#2018_query Holy fucking shit. How are you considered poor and eligible for section 8 project/housing vouchers when you make $117,400? That's insane. <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:898951415] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>In San Francisco, CA, for a family of 4: Low income limit is $117,400. Very low income limit is $73,300. Extremely low income limit is $44,000. Per the Department of Housing and Urban Development data for FY2018, accessible here: https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datasets/il.html#2018_query Holy fucking shit. How are you considered poor and eligible for section 8 project/housing vouchers when you make $117,400? That's insane.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 04/02/18 8:52:29 PM #2:	that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:898951515] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fan357 04/02/18 8:53:23 PM #3:	Good thing I make roughly 75k in rural Indiana. --- Never forget where you came from. <cite>fan357 posted [p:898951567] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>Good thing I make roughly 75k in rural Indiana.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deupd_u 04/02/18 8:53:46 PM #4:	FLUFFYGERM posted... that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics #FightFor15 --- Snipers don't shoot at paper, they shoot watermelons. http://i.imgur.com/jo511lG.jpg <cite>deupd_u posted [p:898951590] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics</quote> #FightFor15</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6 04/02/18 8:54:13 PM #5:	If you are a family of 4. In the most expensive city in the country. --- Because most days are bad days... --- Steam and Fortnite PC: billcom6 My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs <cite>billcom6 posted [p:898951619] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>If you are a family of 4. In the most expensive city in the country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 04/02/18 8:55:50 PM #6:	hey if I'm a family of 1 and I make 30k that means I'm rich then DAMN --- http://i.imgur.com/yCW15Zn.jpg <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:898951714] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>hey if I'm a family of 1 and I make 30k that means I'm rich then DAMN</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 04/02/18 8:55:51 PM #7:	FLUFFYGERM posted... that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics For comparison, in Houston, TX: Low income limit is $59,900. Very low income limit is $37,450. Extremely low income limit is $25,100. <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:898951715] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics</quote> For comparison, in Houston, TX: Low income limit is $59,900. Very low income limit is $37,450. Extremely low income limit is $25,100.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 04/02/18 8:56:05 PM #8:	Big cities are so dumb. Why LIVE in the city? Just go to work there and spend the extra 30 minutes a day driving back and forth while you live in a suburb as a middle class person at the same income. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:898951732] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>Big cities are so dumb. Why LIVE in the city? Just go to work there and spend the extra 30 minutes a day driving back and forth while you live in a suburb as a middle class person at the same income.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 04/02/18 8:56:30 PM #9:	Houston is a hellhole, though --- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:898951757] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>Houston is a hellhole, though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 04/02/18 8:56:51 PM #10:	Turtlebread posted... hey if I'm a family of 1 and I make 30k that means I'm rich then Site says for 1 person in San Francisco, CA: Low income limit is $82,200. Very low income limit is $51,350. Extremely low income limit is $30,800. <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:898951776] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>Turtlebread posted...</cite> <quote>hey if I'm a family of 1 and I make 30k that means I'm rich then </quote> Site says for 1 person in San Francisco, CA: Low income limit is $82,200. Very low income limit is $51,350. Extremely low income limit is $30,800.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 04/02/18 8:56:59 PM #11:	chill02 posted... Houston is a hellhole, though And San Francisco isn't? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:898951785] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>chill02 posted...</cite> <quote>Houston is a hellhole, though</quote> And San Francisco isn't?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 04/02/18 8:57:35 PM #12:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... Big cities are so dumb. Why LIVE in the city? Just go to work there and spend the extra 30 minutes a day driving back and forth while you live in a suburb as a middle class person at the same income. I think traffic and housing situation I'm cities in Cali make that difficult as well. It's morr than 30 minutes --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:898951814] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>Big cities are so dumb. Why LIVE in the city? Just go to work there and spend the extra 30 minutes a day driving back and forth while you live in a suburb as a middle class person at the same income.</quote> I think traffic and housing situation I'm cities in Cali make that difficult as well. It's morr than 30 minutes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 04/02/18 8:58:51 PM #13:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... Why LIVE in the city? Just go to work there and spend the extra 30 minutes a day driving back and forth while you live in a suburb as a middle class person at the same income. This long, albeit a little dated post, discusses why it's not as a good of an option as you think: http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/10/06/the-true-cost-of-commuting/ And an NPR article on how cutting an hour from your commute is equivalent to an extra $40,000/year in happiness: https://www.npr.org/2011/10/19/141514467/small-changes-can-help-you-thrive-happily <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:898951895] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>Why LIVE in the city? Just go to work there and spend the extra 30 minutes a day driving back and forth while you live in a suburb as a middle class person at the same income. </quote> This long, albeit a little dated post, discusses why it's not as a good of an option as you think: http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/10/06/the-true-cost-of-commuting/ And an NPR article on how cutting an hour from your commute is equivalent to an extra $40,000/year in happiness: https://www.npr.org/2011/10/19/141514467/small-changes-can-help-you-thrive-happily</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 04/02/18 8:59:52 PM #14:	<3 Mr Money Mustache So happy to find a fellow Mustachian on CE --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:898951954] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><3 Mr Money Mustache So happy to find a fellow Mustachian on CE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
halomonkey1_3_5 04/02/18 9:00:20 PM #15:	this is why I'm going to Las Vegas instead of Cali --- Billy Mays: July 20, 1958 - June 28, 2009 The Greatest <cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted [p:898951974] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>this is why I'm going to Las Vegas instead of Cali</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ACHEEKSMALLOY 04/02/18 9:05:06 PM #16:	FLUFFYGERM posted... And San Francisco isn't? literally covered in human feces --- Gamertag: ALMIGHTY CHEEKS The CUBS are the 2016 WORLD CHAMPIONS!!! <cite>ACHEEKSMALLOY posted [p:898952236] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>And San Francisco isn't?</quote> literally covered in human feces</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 04/02/18 9:06:35 PM #17:	FLUFFYGERM posted... that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics You fucking shitting me? It is what happens when you have extreme gentrification as a result of a high concentration of high-paying jobs in a popular area. Christ, you trumpanzees are unbelievable. Everything is about politics with you. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:898952313] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics</quote> You fucking shitting me? It is what happens when you have extreme gentrification as a result of a high concentration of high-paying jobs in a popular area. Christ, you trumpanzees are unbelievable. Everything is about politics with you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 04/02/18 9:06:46 PM #18:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... Big cities are so dumb. Why LIVE in the city? Just go to work there and spend the extra 30 minutes a day driving back and forth while you live in a suburb as a middle class person at the same income. Not everyone can afford a car. If you live in a big city, there might be public transportation. You might live close enough to walk or bike. You might even be able to carpool with someone else (less likely if you live way out in BFE). On the main topic: yeah, CoL is extraordinarily high there. Housing, groceries, and general household supplies are more expensive. Meaning a dollar doesn't go as far as somewhere else. Where I live, 60k is more than enough money to live well. Rent for a 2br/2ba apartment is usually under a thousand, gas is close to $2/gal, and you can buy a week's worth of groceries for $50. CoL is low. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:898952325] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>Big cities are so dumb. Why LIVE in the city? Just go to work there and spend the extra 30 minutes a day driving back and forth while you live in a suburb as a middle class person at the same income.</quote> Not everyone can afford a car. If you live in a big city, there might be public transportation. You might live close enough to walk or bike. You might even be able to carpool with someone else (less likely if you live way out in BFE). On the main topic: yeah, CoL is extraordinarily high there. Housing, groceries, and general household supplies are more expensive. Meaning a dollar doesn't go as far as somewhere else. Where I live, 60k is more than enough money to live well. Rent for a 2br/2ba apartment is usually under a thousand, gas is close to $2/gal, and you can buy a week's worth of groceries for $50. CoL is low.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 04/02/18 9:08:13 PM #19:	IdiotMachine posted... a family of 4 this is the key --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:898952397] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>IdiotMachine posted...</cite> <quote>a family of 4</quote> this is the key</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Poiuyt 04/02/18 9:09:49 PM #20:	CiIantro posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics You fucking shitting me? It is what happens when you have extreme gentrification as a result of a high concentration of high-paying jobs in a popular area. Christ, you trumpanzees are unbelievable. Everything is about politics with you. Lmao bodied <cite>Poiuyt posted [p:898952498] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics</quote> You fucking shitting me? It is what happens when you have extreme gentrification as a result of a high concentration of high-paying jobs in a popular area. Christ, you trumpanzees are unbelievable. Everything is about politics with you.</quote> Lmao bodied</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 04/02/18 9:09:54 PM #21:	Also big cities tend to have much better infrastructure than some rural town. Internet is pretty mandatory now and living out in the middle of nowhere you might not even be able to get broadband internet if no one is willing to lay cables out to you. Let alone getting good connection since companies are less likely to invest in an area without a lot of potential customers. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:898952504] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>Also big cities tend to have much better infrastructure than some rural town. Internet is pretty mandatory now and living out in the middle of nowhere you might not even be able to get broadband internet if no one is willing to lay cables out to you. Let alone getting good connection since companies are less likely to invest in an area without a lot of potential customers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 04/02/18 9:10:00 PM #22:	apolloooo posted... this is the key IdiotMachine posted... Site says for 1 person in San Francisco, CA: Low income limit is $82,200. Very low income limit is $51,350. Extremely low income limit is $30,800. <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:898952511] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>apolloooo posted...</cite> <quote>this is the key </quote> <cite>IdiotMachine posted...</cite> <quote>Site says for 1 person in San Francisco, CA: Low income limit is $82,200. Very low income limit is $51,350. Extremely low income limit is $30,800.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 04/02/18 9:14:13 PM #23:	CiIantro posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics You fucking shitting me? It is what happens when you have extreme gentrification as a result of a high concentration of high-paying jobs in a popular area. Christ, you trumpanzees are unbelievable. Everything is about politics with you. It is about politics, specifically shitty policies like prop 8 at the state level and an abuse of environmental regulations and exclusionary zoning on the local level Since it's been mentioned, Houston has added population and jobs just as fast as any other metro and it's much more affordable than the California metros for a reason. Edit wow. holy shit, prop 13, not 8. 8 is good for urbanism if anything! --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:898952784] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics</quote> You fucking shitting me? It is what happens when you have extreme gentrification as a result of a high concentration of high-paying jobs in a popular area. Christ, you trumpanzees are unbelievable. Everything is about politics with you.</quote> It is about politics, specifically shitty policies like prop 8 at the state level and an abuse of environmental regulations and exclusionary zoning on the local level Since it's been mentioned, Houston has added population and jobs just as fast as any other metro and it's much more affordable than the California metros for a reason. Edit wow. holy shit, prop 13, not 8. 8 is good for urbanism if anything!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngryGrandpa 04/02/18 9:16:19 PM #24:	I make about $300 a year. --- https://youtu.be/cbxxkwBQk_o <cite>AngryGrandpa posted [p:898952905] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>I make about $300 a year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 04/02/18 9:17:40 PM #25:	IdiotMachine posted... apolloooo posted... this is the key IdiotMachine posted... Site says for 1 person in San Francisco, CA: Low income limit is $82,200. Very low income limit is $51,350. Extremely low income limit is $30,800. So what should an average person make then? Because I'm reading this information as broke, dead broke, and "how the fuck are you not homeless". --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:898952976] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>IdiotMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>apolloooo posted...</cite> <quote>this is the key </quote> <cite>IdiotMachine posted...</cite> <quote>Site says for 1 person in San Francisco, CA: Low income limit is $82,200. Very low income limit is $51,350. Extremely low income limit is $30,800.</quote></quote> So what should an average person make then? Because I'm reading this information as broke, dead broke, and "how the fuck are you not homeless".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 04/02/18 9:18:32 PM #27:	Balrog0 posted... CiIantro posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics You fucking shitting me? It is what happens when you have extreme gentrification as a result of a high concentration of high-paying jobs in a popular area. Christ, you trumpanzees are unbelievable. Everything is about politics with you. It is about politics, specifically shitty policies like prop 8 at the state level and an abuse of environmental regulations and exclusionary zoning on the local level Since it's been mentioned, Houston has added population and jobs just as fast as any other metro and it's much more affordable than the California metros for a reason. Edit wow. holy shit, prop 13, not 8. 8 is good for urbanism if anything! lmao bodied --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:898953033] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics</quote> You fucking shitting me? It is what happens when you have extreme gentrification as a result of a high concentration of high-paying jobs in a popular area. Christ, you trumpanzees are unbelievable. Everything is about politics with you.</quote> It is about politics, specifically shitty policies like prop 8 at the state level and an abuse of environmental regulations and exclusionary zoning on the local level Since it's been mentioned, Houston has added population and jobs just as fast as any other metro and it's much more affordable than the California metros for a reason. Edit wow. holy shit, prop 13, not 8. 8 is good for urbanism if anything!</quote> lmao bodied</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 04/02/18 9:25:29 PM #29:	Sounds like they need a "Rent Is Too Damn High" Party. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:898953392] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like they need a "Rent Is Too Damn High" Party.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 04/02/18 9:26:57 PM #30:	_Rinku_ posted... Not everyone can afford a car. So your solution is to live in a plave where rent costs half a car a month? --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:898953466] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>Not everyone can afford a car.</quote> So your solution is to live in a plave where rent costs half a car a month?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/02/18 9:27:19 PM #31:	What? Different parts of the country have different costs of living? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:898953492] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>What? Different parts of the country have different costs of living?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 04/02/18 9:52:49 PM #32:	DevsBro posted... _Rinku_ posted... Not everyone can afford a car. So your solution is to live in a plave where rent costs half a car a month? This is indeed a trade off people make. Though only a few cities are really feasible to live in with no car at all. --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:898955036] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>Not everyone can afford a car.</quote> So your solution is to live in a plave where rent costs half a car a month?</quote> This is indeed a trade off people make. Though only a few cities are really feasible to live in with no car at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 04/02/18 9:53:26 PM #33:	In the US that is --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:898955086] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>In the US that is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
twitterfriends 04/02/18 9:53:26 PM #34:	Yeah that is not a lot of money where I live. --- #NotMyPresident #JusticeDemocrats #Neblio #WolfPAC #Bitcoin #WeAre12 #12thMan #Seahawks #Belieber #DENT #UBI #PokemonGo #twitterfriends #MMA #PopularHashtags <cite>twitterfriends posted [p:898955087] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>Yeah that is not a lot of money where I live.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 04/02/18 10:02:45 PM #35:	Balrog0 posted... CiIantro posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics You fucking shitting me? It is what happens when you have extreme gentrification as a result of a high concentration of high-paying jobs in a popular area. Christ, you trumpanzees are unbelievable. Everything is about politics with you. It is about politics, specifically shitty policies like prop 8 at the state level and an abuse of environmental regulations and exclusionary zoning on the local level Since it's been mentioned, Houston has added population and jobs just as fast as any other metro and it's much more affordable than the California metros for a reason. Edit wow. holy shit, prop 13, not 8. 8 is good for urbanism if anything! Give me a break. Nobody wants to live in Houston. Bay Area is expensive because large numbers of wealthy people are drawn there (whether for work or otherwise). It is basic supply and demand. Learn how gentrification works. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:898955690] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics</quote> You fucking shitting me? It is what happens when you have extreme gentrification as a result of a high concentration of high-paying jobs in a popular area. Christ, you trumpanzees are unbelievable. Everything is about politics with you.</quote> It is about politics, specifically shitty policies like prop 8 at the state level and an abuse of environmental regulations and exclusionary zoning on the local level Since it's been mentioned, Houston has added population and jobs just as fast as any other metro and it's much more affordable than the California metros for a reason. Edit wow. holy shit, prop 13, not 8. 8 is good for urbanism if anything!</quote> Give me a break. Nobody wants to live in Houston. Bay Area is expensive because large numbers of wealthy people are drawn there (whether for work or otherwise). It is basic supply and demand. Learn how gentrification works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BewmHedshot 04/02/18 10:03:32 PM #36:	Makeveli_lives posted... IdiotMachine posted... apolloooo posted... this is the key IdiotMachine posted... Site says for 1 person in San Francisco, CA: Low income limit is $82,200. Very low income limit is $51,350. Extremely low income limit is $30,800. So what should an average person make then? Because I'm reading this information as broke, dead broke, and "how the fuck are you not homeless". The 'Very Low' limit is found by taking 50% of the median household income and adjusting it. The Extremely Low limit is found by taking 60% of the Very Low limit and adjusting it. --- Cavaliers: ONCE <cite>BewmHedshot posted [p:898955749] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>Makeveli_lives posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IdiotMachine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>apolloooo posted...</cite> <quote>this is the key </quote> <cite>IdiotMachine posted...</cite> <quote>Site says for 1 person in San Francisco, CA: Low income limit is $82,200. Very low income limit is $51,350. Extremely low income limit is $30,800.</quote></quote> So what should an average person make then? Because I'm reading this information as broke, dead broke, and "how the fuck are you not homeless".</quote> The 'Very Low' limit is found by taking 50% of the median household income and adjusting it. The Extremely Low limit is found by taking 60% of the Very Low limit and adjusting it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem boy 04/02/18 10:33:59 PM #38:	CiIantro posted... Balrog0 posted... CiIantro posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics You fucking shitting me? It is what happens when you have extreme gentrification as a result of a high concentration of high-paying jobs in a popular area. Christ, you trumpanzees are unbelievable. Everything is about politics with you. It is about politics, specifically shitty policies like prop 8 at the state level and an abuse of environmental regulations and exclusionary zoning on the local level Since it's been mentioned, Houston has added population and jobs just as fast as any other metro and it's much more affordable than the California metros for a reason. Edit wow. holy shit, prop 13, not 8. 8 is good for urbanism if anything! Give me a break. Nobody wants to live in Houston. Bay Area is expensive because large numbers of wealthy people are drawn there (whether for work or otherwise). It is basic supply and demand. Learn how gentrification works. Texas is booming bro. Houston, Austin, Dallas --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:898957626] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics </quote> You fucking shitting me? It is what happens when you have extreme gentrification as a result of a high concentration of high-paying jobs in a popular area. Christ, you trumpanzees are unbelievable. Everything is about politics with you. </quote> It is about politics, specifically shitty policies like prop 8 at the state level and an abuse of environmental regulations and exclusionary zoning on the local level Since it's been mentioned, Houston has added population and jobs just as fast as any other metro and it's much more affordable than the California metros for a reason. Edit wow. holy shit, prop 13, not 8. 8 is good for urbanism if anything!</quote> Give me a break. Nobody wants to live in Houston. Bay Area is expensive because large numbers of wealthy people are drawn there (whether for work or otherwise). It is basic supply and demand. Learn how gentrification works.</quote> Texas is booming bro. Houston, Austin, Dallas</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 04/02/18 11:36:37 PM #39:	San Francisco is not the result of gentrification. Gentrification is a good thing. What you have in San Francisco is regulations that are out of control. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:898960993] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>San Francisco is not the result of gentrification. Gentrification is a good thing. What you have in San Francisco is regulations that are out of control.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 04/02/18 11:43:25 PM #40:	CiIantro posted... Balrog0 posted... CiIantro posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics You fucking shitting me? It is what happens when you have extreme gentrification as a result of a high concentration of high-paying jobs in a popular area. Christ, you trumpanzees are unbelievable. Everything is about politics with you. It is about politics, specifically shitty policies like prop 8 at the state level and an abuse of environmental regulations and exclusionary zoning on the local level Since it's been mentioned, Houston has added population and jobs just as fast as any other metro and it's much more affordable than the California metros for a reason. Edit wow. holy shit, prop 13, not 8. 8 is good for urbanism if anything! Give me a break. Nobody wants to live in Houston. Bay Area is expensive because large numbers of wealthy people are drawn there (whether for work or otherwise). It is basic supply and demand. Learn how gentrification works. It is basic supply and demand, go look up new housing construction permitted in Houston v SF or Santa Clara County and get back to me Yeah wealthy people like the bay but the people pushing up housing prices are the upper middle class techies and other white collar workers. San Jose, Fremont, Hayward, Oakland arenot a top tier cities, dude, it's not even no. 1 in the US from the standpoint of the global rich. Not even getting into the greater bay. It's way more complex than you are wanting it to be and yeah it's politics --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:898961322] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics</quote> You fucking shitting me? It is what happens when you have extreme gentrification as a result of a high concentration of high-paying jobs in a popular area. Christ, you trumpanzees are unbelievable. Everything is about politics with you.</quote> It is about politics, specifically shitty policies like prop 8 at the state level and an abuse of environmental regulations and exclusionary zoning on the local level Since it's been mentioned, Houston has added population and jobs just as fast as any other metro and it's much more affordable than the California metros for a reason. Edit wow. holy shit, prop 13, not 8. 8 is good for urbanism if anything!</quote> Give me a break. Nobody wants to live in Houston. Bay Area is expensive because large numbers of wealthy people are drawn there (whether for work or otherwise). It is basic supply and demand. Learn how gentrification works.</quote> It is basic supply and demand, go look up new housing construction permitted in Houston v SF or Santa Clara County and get back to me Yeah wealthy people like the bay but the people pushing up housing prices are the upper middle class techies and other white collar workers. San Jose, Fremont, Hayward, Oakland arenot a top tier cities, dude, it's not even no. 1 in the US from the standpoint of the global rich. Not even getting into the greater bay. It's way more complex than you are wanting it to be and yeah it's politics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 04/02/18 11:45:18 PM #41:	halomonkey1_3_5 posted... this is why I'm going to Las Vegas instead of Cali if can get past the heat issues and the crime. it isn't that bad to live at. rent is reasonable. going to school there really **ing sucks. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:898961404] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted...</cite> <quote>this is why I'm going to Las Vegas instead of Cali</quote> if can get past the heat issues and the crime. it isn't that bad to live at. rent is reasonable. going to school there really **ing sucks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 04/02/18 11:45:32 PM #42:	'I live in milpitas because I'm wealthy' said nobody You give me a break --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:898961413] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>'I live in milpitas because I'm wealthy' said nobody You give me a break</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeyPuff 04/02/18 11:53:44 PM #43:	FLUFFYGERM posted... that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics Fucking lawl --- http://imgur.com/anVgnqe Hi, I'm puff_stinks/___ingGorilla http://imgur.com/YtOjPfY Taxin' that ass <cite>HeyPuff posted [p:898961792] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics</quote> Fucking lawl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kayoticdreamz 04/02/18 11:55:01 PM #44:	FLUFFYGERM posted... that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics <cite>kayoticdreamz posted [p:898961831] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>that's what happens when you let leftism run your economics</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 04/02/18 11:58:25 PM #45:	SF is not really caused too much by gentrification. It's just a huge clusterfuck. RoboLaserGandhi posted... Big cities are so dumb. Why LIVE in the city? Just go to work there and spend the extra 30 minutes a day driving back and forth while you live in a suburb as a middle class person at the same income. There's lots of factors, but the most important factor for NYC at least, is that the suburbs cost more than the citiy. In very far off directions, to the point it's very hard to commute. Especially when figuring in that NYC has one of the worst traffic in the world. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:898961992] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>SF is not really caused too much by gentrification. It's just a huge clusterfuck. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>Big cities are so dumb. Why LIVE in the city? Just go to work there and spend the extra 30 minutes a day driving back and forth while you live in a suburb as a middle class person at the same income.</quote> There's lots of factors, but the most important factor for NYC at least, is that the suburbs cost more than the citiy. In very far off directions, to the point it's very hard to commute. Especially when figuring in that NYC has one of the worst traffic in the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 04/03/18 12:04:55 AM #46:	DoctorVader posted... SF is not really caused too much by gentrification. It's just a huge clusterfuck. RoboLaserGandhi posted... Big cities are so dumb. Why LIVE in the city? Just go to work there and spend the extra 30 minutes a day driving back and forth while you live in a suburb as a middle class person at the same income. There's lots of factors, but the most important factor for NYC at least, is that the suburbs cost more than the citiy. In very far off directions, to the point it's very hard to commute. Especially when figuring in that NYC has one of the worst traffic in the world. Another big difference between California and eastern metros is that California built up based on car and retroactively put in rail like BART That implies yoog differences in price for close in suburbs vs far out exurbs That's why the Sunbelt metros are usually the preferred comparison with respect to affordability --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:898962263] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>SF is not really caused too much by gentrification. It's just a huge clusterfuck. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>Big cities are so dumb. Why LIVE in the city? Just go to work there and spend the extra 30 minutes a day driving back and forth while you live in a suburb as a middle class person at the same income.</quote> There's lots of factors, but the most important factor for NYC at least, is that the suburbs cost more than the citiy. In very far off directions, to the point it's very hard to commute. Especially when figuring in that NYC has one of the worst traffic in the world.</quote> Another big difference between California and eastern metros is that California built up based on car and retroactively put in rail like BART That implies yoog differences in price for close in suburbs vs far out exurbs That's why the Sunbelt metros are usually the preferred comparison with respect to affordability</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFVII_REMAKE 04/03/18 12:35:00 AM #47:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... Big cities are so dumb. Why LIVE in the city? Just go to work there and spend the extra 30 minutes a day driving back and forth while you live in a suburb as a middle class person at the same income. You can get a bunch of things done if you do 1 hour round trip commutes. Even worse if you already work 12 hour days. <cite>FFVII_REMAKE posted [p:898963495] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>Big cities are so dumb. Why LIVE in the city? Just go to work there and spend the extra 30 minutes a day driving back and forth while you live in a suburb as a middle class person at the same income.</quote> You can get a bunch of things done if you do 1 hour round trip commutes. Even worse if you already work 12 hour days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkman124 04/03/18 9:06:50 AM #49:	Balrog0 posted... It's way more complex than you are wanting it to be and yeah it's politics but, to be clear, it's the politics of "NIMBY" not the politics of "extreme leftism". --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:898975150] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>It's way more complex than you are wanting it to be and yeah it's politics </quote> but, to be clear, it's the politics of "NIMBY" not the politics of "extreme leftism".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 04/03/18 9:28:42 AM #50:	Darkman124 posted... but, to be clear, it's the politics of "NIMBY" not the politics of "extreme leftism". very much so the other thing is that california politics are not 'far left' --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:898975881] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>but, to be clear, it's the politics of "NIMBY" not the politics of "extreme leftism". </quote> very much so the other thing is that california politics are not 'far left'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 04/03/18 9:30:58 AM #51:	also what even is 30 minutes from SF? another part of SF? it took that long to get from san jose to santa clara like 25 years ago, people who have never been to the bay (or a couple other choice megapolis regions) really have no concept of real congestion --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:898975962] in If you mak... [t:76479338]...</cite> <quote>also what even is 30 minutes from SF? another part of SF? it took that long to get from san jose to santa clara like 25 years ago, people who have never been to the bay (or a couple other choice megapolis regions) really have no concept of real congestion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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