Current Events > I've spent over a year on Facebook singles groups. Here is what women want.

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GreatEvilEmpire posted...

Most women want men who can take care of her future children. They want financial security and men who are not reliant on their parents. In other words...not soyboys.

You're wrong. I am a soyboy and I have financial security and do not rely on my parents.

ssj3vegeta2 posted...

spanky1 posted...

men who are not attracted to overweight women.

XFD

"We can discriminate against you for being short, but you must love us for being fat"
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spanky1 posted...

gbpxl posted...

Anyone who thinks hunting is a masculine trait is someone I don't want to associate with. Taking down a defenseless, innocent animal with a tool that a teenage girl can handle is about as masculine as drop kicking said girl.

If you made this post in the groups that I'm in, you would be absolutely destroyed. They are all about hunting, and they will make fun of anti-hunting people at the drop of a hat.

Am I wrong, though?

Wow women don't want much. It's all a bit contradictory.
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PepperoniMaster posted...

ssj3vegeta2 posted...

spanky1 posted...

men who are not attracted to overweight women.

XFD

"We can discriminate against you for being short, but you must love us for being fat"

Yeah they're single for a reason. I had a friend who was pushing 300 lbs, lived with mom, and didn't work a day in his life. He had high standards. I think the only time he got laid was when he paid for it.

gbpxl posted...

spanky1 posted...

gbpxl posted...

Anyone who thinks hunting is a masculine trait is someone I don't want to associate with. Taking down a defenseless, innocent animal with a tool that a teenage girl can handle is about as masculine as drop kicking said girl.

If you made this post in the groups that I'm in, you would be absolutely destroyed. They are all about hunting, and they will make fun of anti-hunting people at the drop of a hat.

Am I wrong, though?

Technically and philosophically I guess you're not wrong, I mean what you say makes sense. But at the same time, it's too manly for me to do. Buying and maintaining a hunting rifle, going out to some country place and sitting all day in a blind, actually pulling the trigger, and then of course doing all the skinning and organ removal. I could never do that. So you're not wrong but it's also too manly for me as well, but I'm a pansy. I mean when you get down to it in real life, bagging a deer is still a lot of effort. It's a whole hobby that takes a lot of commitment, and I can see why many women would be attracted to a man that does it.
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spanky1 posted...

gbpxl posted...

spanky1 posted...

gbpxl posted...

Anyone who thinks hunting is a masculine trait is someone I don't want to associate with. Taking down a defenseless, innocent animal with a tool that a teenage girl can handle is about as masculine as drop kicking said girl.

If you made this post in the groups that I'm in, you would be absolutely destroyed. They are all about hunting, and they will make fun of anti-hunting people at the drop of a hat.

Am I wrong, though?

Technically and philosophically I guess you're not wrong, I mean what you say makes sense. But at the same time, it's too manly for me to do. Buying and maintaining a hunting rifle, going out to some country place and sitting all day in a blind, actually pulling the trigger, and then of course doing all the skinning and organ removal. I could never do that. So you're not wrong but it's also too manly for me as well, but I'm a pansy. I mean when you get down to it in real life, bagging a deer is still a lot of effort. It's a whole hobby that takes a lot of commitment, and I can see why many women would be attracted to a man that does it.

Like knitting a quilt.

spanky1 posted...

But at the same time, it's too manly for me to do. Buying and maintaining a hunting rifle, going out to some country place and sitting all day in a blind, actually pulling the trigger, and then of course doing all the skinning and organ removal.

most hunters dont process their own meat tbh

you can always lie about it, these women will never investigate the difference
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Balrog0 posted...

most hunters dont process their own meat tbh

Yeah I would just take the carcass to a professional butcher. Create some jobs, you know?
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Night bump. :v
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Balrog0 posted...

spanky1 posted...

But at the same time, it's too manly for me to do. Buying and maintaining a hunting rifle, going out to some country place and sitting all day in a blind, actually pulling the trigger, and then of course doing all the skinning and organ removal.

most hunters dont process their own meat tbh

you can always lie about it, these women will never investigate the difference

You have to field dress a deer (remove the organs) as soon as possible after killing it.
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spanky1 posted...

gbpxl posted...

Anyone who thinks hunting is a masculine trait is someone I don't want to associate with. Taking down a defenseless, innocent animal with a tool that a teenage girl can handle is about as masculine as drop kicking said girl.

If you made this post in the groups that I'm in, you would be absolutely destroyed. They are all about hunting, and they will make fun of anti-hunting people at the drop of a hat.

so basically they're awful obnoxious people

why do we care what their preferences are again?
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they hold the keys to the vagine
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Boy, am I glad women aren't monolithic.
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gbpxl posted...

spanky1 posted...

gbpxl posted...

Anyone who thinks hunting is a masculine trait is someone I don't want to associate with. Taking down a defenseless, innocent animal with a tool that a teenage girl can handle is about as masculine as drop kicking said girl.

If you made this post in the groups that I'm in, you would be absolutely destroyed. They are all about hunting, and they will make fun of anti-hunting people at the drop of a hat.

Am I wrong, though?

You gave an opinion, it's neither right or wrong. They would absolutely slay you though for your views, that's pretty much guaranteed.
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What would these women think of a late 20s guy who watches anime, has an anime pillow, collects anime girl figurines and lives with his parents?

All this topic does for me is reafirm my believes that women are shallow and superficial. They only want the best men possible. A dude who's masculine, tall, strong, etc. Has a six figure job and his own house. These women are money grubbing gold diggers.

Also lol at the part about the man being willing to take in small children that aren't his. That's a deal breaker for me. And the part about being angry if the man isn't attracted to fat woman. That's fucking hilarious. Women want the best looking men, and expect them to be okay with the fact that they're fat and gross? Lol.
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Well, I guess I'll call it a GG and give up on my dreams of getting married. I haven't been in tons of facebook single groups but I've already picked up on this via talking to women in real life and via online dating sites. Most women will never see me as an eligible man.
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Okay, I see a list of demands in the OP.
What I'm not seeing anywhere in there is what most of these women have to offer in return...

"Vagina" is not a valid answer.

It sounds like they want Joe Blow Lumberstud who's muy macho, handy, romantically assertive, and a social guru. The question is why would a guy of that caliber want to waste his time on chunky 30+ single moms when he can get younger and hotter...

The numbers don't add up.


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Delirious_Beard posted...

spanky1 posted...

gbpxl posted...

Anyone who thinks hunting is a masculine trait is someone I don't want to associate with. Taking down a defenseless, innocent animal with a tool that a teenage girl can handle is about as masculine as drop kicking said girl.

If you made this post in the groups that I'm in, you would be absolutely destroyed. They are all about hunting, and they will make fun of anti-hunting people at the drop of a hat.

so basically they're awful obnoxious people

why do we care what their preferences are again?

They may or may not reflect the population you have to deal with, but it's okay if they don't. All I know is it's what I personally have to work with.

Itachi157 posted...

What would these women think of a late 20s guy who watches anime, has an anime pillow, collects anime girl figurines and lives with his parents?

They would think he has serious mental issues.

Tadamoto38 posted...

All this topic does for me is reafirm my believes that women are shallow and superficial. They only want the best men possible. A dude who's masculine, tall, strong, etc. Has a six figure job and his own house. These women are money grubbing gold diggers.

Also lol at the part about the man being willing to take in small children that aren't his. That's a deal breaker for me. And the part about being angry if the man isn't attracted to fat woman. That's fucking hilarious. Women want the best looking men, and expect them to be okay with the fact that they're fat and gross? Lol.

Well, actually, as noted in my opening post, they aren't as gold digging as you'd think. That honestly doesn't seem to be the thing they're after most. The number one thing they want is a man that can take care of stuff, even if that means just working with his hands. They want a man's man, masculine and confident. That's the most important thing. And really that's just what they're hardwired to be attracted to, I think, so I don't think that specifically is shallow, honestly. It's like men who are hardwired to be attracted to boobs. It's not shallow, it just is what it is.

As for children: once you hit your 30s, they all have at least one kid, if not more, and for some bizarre reason, the kids are overwhelmingly boys. It's weird. But anyway. Yeah, if you're anti child in these groups, you will be openly mocked, "that's not a man, that's a boy", coward, and all that kind of stuff. By both the women and the male members of the groups. They're all very sensitive about guy who don't want kids and guy who would run when hearing the woman already has kids.
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much as this thread is full of shit, i will note that i never lead with my lack of desire for children or disinterest in overweight women.

i simply...didn't pursue overweight women, and avoided the subject of children in the early phases until the relationship hinged upon it (at which point I was honest).

the fact that basic positive masculine qualities are valued is something i hope most men continue to understand.

also, being good at dancing is easy AF. know how to six-count swing dance and women who aren't active lindy hoppers will think you rock.
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ClockworkHare posted...

Okay, I see a list of demands in the OP.
What I'm not seeing anywhere in there is what most of these women have to offer in return...

"Vagina" is not a valid answer.

It sounds like they want Joe Blow Lumberstud who's muy macho, handy, romantically assertive, and a social guru. The question is why would a guy of that caliber want to waste his time on chunky 30+ single moms when he can get younger and hotter...

The numbers don't add up.

You'd think I'd go and defend the women at this point, but honestly, you're kinda right. The women are kind of messes in these groups, barflies, etc. And just like sexual economics dictate that the pussy is the gatekeeper of love and sex, sexual economics also dictate that older men have staying power and can get younger women still, leaving the older women to themselves. A man who fulfills everything they want is probably a middle age guy who can get a younger woman who would be more appealing.

This kinda goes into another point: I keep seeing people in the groups going on about "dating isn't like what it used to be", and "people have changed nowadays, it's so much harder." But not one of them ever stops to think that maybe, just maybe, because they're in their 40s now, they're a lot less appealing as a mate, and are passed over in favor of people in their 20s. I don't think dating has changed too much aside from the technology, it's just naturally harder to do as you age, in any era. And it gets disproportionately harder from women as they age rather than men. The problem is they keep the same mentality they have in their 20s, so they end up being alone and on facebook singles groups.

All in all, it's kinda messed up on both sides of the sexes, but I hold no ill will to be honest. We're all animals, these are our mating habits, things are dirty and messy.
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Darkman124 posted...

much as this thread is full of shit, i will note that i never lead with my lack of desire for children or disinterest in overweight women.

i simply...didn't pursue overweight women, and avoided the subject of children in the early phases until the relationship hinged upon it (at which point I was honest).

the fact that basic positive masculine qualities are valued is something i hope most men continue to understand.

also, being good at dancing is easy AF. know how to six-count swing dance and women who aren't active lindy hoppers will think you rock.

That six count dance, man oh man. It's my bane. All the songs are in four count! It doesn't match up! It makes no sense in my head! XD

But yeah the country dance halls are a big deal around here. Big Texas, stuff like that. I've been on the floor a few times, but I'm hopeless really.
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the big secret about women is they talk a much bigger game than they play

most of the women i dated said they would never date an asshole

joke's on them!
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Asherlee10 posted...

So, really this is just about women in Houston who are a part of this one group on Facebook.

sounds like, yes. anecdotal fallacy strikes again!
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Asherlee10 posted...

So, really this is just about women in Houston who are a part of this one group on Facebook.

Many facebook groups. There are several thousand members, so it's a good chunk of the population, and it's the part of the population that is out and about and actively searching for love. But yeah, Texas.
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Darkman124 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

So, really this is just about women in Houston who are a part of this one group on Facebook.

sounds like, yes. anecdotal fallacy strikes again!

I would call it more than anecdotal.
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spanky1 posted...

I would call it more than anecdotal.

of course you would: it's your anecdote!
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gbpxl posted...

Anyone who thinks hunting is a masculine trait is someone I don't want to associate with. Taking down a defenseless, innocent animal with a tool that a teenage girl can handle is about as masculine as drop kicking said girl.

What a ****ing girl. I mean that with all sincerity.
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this confirms the average man is unfuckable
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Asherlee10 posted...

spanky1 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

So, really this is just about women in Houston who are a part of this one group on Facebook.

Many facebook groups. There are several thousand members, so it's a good chunk of the population, and it's the part of the population that is out and about and actively searching for love. But yeah, Texas.

But it's still only people that get on a Facebook singles group. You might have completely opposite experience in Houston if you went to a business social for young professionals or something.

Yeah, that's true. But I mean still, are the results that unbelievable or insulting, really? The main takeaway is that women are attracted to masculinity. That's no surprise, right? I'm willing to bet the rest of the population would be similar to my opening post, just less of a "country, conservative" slant, if that makes sense. Women are women, they want a manly guy, that's just nature.
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MakoReizei posted...

this confirms the average man is unfuckable

average woman limitless dick etc
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there have been studies of the direct link between traditional facets of masculinity and attraction response in women of a representative sample

i recall a lengthy discussion that led me to directly reaching out to the author. lemme see if i can find the study, author was more than happy to chat with me since i have a .edu email
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spanky1 posted...

(I hope there's a lot of ado in this topic. :3)

A few notes before I get into it:

This is just raw information. I make no judgements or complaints or anything like that, just relaying information.

It's not one single group, it's various groups each with different levels of activity and tone.

This is located in the Houston, Texas area. Which is an extremely important fact. This may all be totally different compared to places like California or New York. The women are 90% conservative, so obviously they're attracted to that kinda stuff, more religious, more republican. I say that while acknowledging the fact that Houston proper is actually a liberal city. The members of these groups all seem to live in the suburbs, however, and the suburbs of Houston are far different than the actual city, and are much more conservative, with preferences to country stuff.

I never really interact much in the groups, so this isn't from personal experience, but rather by observing myriads of public posts and discussions about what people are attracted to in a partner.

So, without further ado (damn it!), my findings:

The most important thing, by far: Masculinity. In its most basic forms. Women are attracted to men that are masculine, capable, have skills, are physically tall/large/strong. They want men who drive large pickup trucks. Most of them admit to being turned off to men who don't know how to change their own oil or make repairs around the house. With respect to love language, acts of service seem to be the most important thing. They want their man to be able to DO things. Build stuff. Haul a trailer. Hunting is a huge one. Manly stuff. Fishing. Something that is outdoors. They want a man that can dance. They want a man who is super confident, who can make decisions without being wishy washy, who plans a date and knows what he's doing. Someone with large forearm muscles. Someone who could physically defend them in a fight and make them feel safe. The ability to maintain an interesting conversation. Masculinity and the confidence that goes with it is basically what they are hardwired to go crazy over.

With regard to looks: Skinny men are absolutely a no. Being a little chubby is actually okay but not really fat or anything, and being super ripped is actually a turn off. Most of them prefer beards. Forearms are the most attractive part of a man.

With regard to money: Being rich isn't a requirement, but you must have a steady job and live on your own. You must be prepared to take on a family of small children. To be fair, they honestly don't seem to be gold diggers, and most seem really cool about it. They're even okay with making more money than you. They just want you to at least "hold your own", and they seem to hold themselves to the same standards.

Things they 100% do not want and are completely unattracted to: being short, being skinny, having small forearms, lack of confidence, inability to have a conversation, men who complain being nice doesn't get them anywhere, video games, geek culture, not having a job, sending dick picks, not being able to dance, still living with your parents, not wanting children, men who are not attracted to overweight women.

Do with this what you will, CE.

Meh, even the most liberal woman politically/socially will have some conservative sounding views if they have kids and are talking about the man that they are looking for, at least ideally.
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HotMaladorianAI posted...

Meh, even the most liberal woman politically will have some conservative sounding views if they have kids and are talking about the man that they are looking for, at least ideally.

Maybe. I do know that I didn't even touch on religion, because I know that's super geographic. There are polls on what your religion is in the groups sometimes, and the first one I saw blew my mind. I was expecting it to be mostly Christian, sure, but I wasn't prepared for about 95% Christian. I really didn't realize that many people around me were that religious, I didn't know my town as much as I thought I did. They're all very Christian, and many of them, if not most, would not date a man who doesn't share their religion.
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spanky1 posted...

HotMaladorianAI posted...

Meh, even the most liberal woman politically will have some conservative sounding views if they have kids and are talking about the man that they are looking for, at least ideally.

Maybe. I do know that I didn't even touch on religion, because I know that's super geographic. There are polls on what your religion is in the groups sometimes, and the first one I saw blew my mind. I was expecting it to be mostly Christian, sure, but I wasn't prepared for about 95% Christian. I really didn't realize that many people around me were that religious, I didn't know my town as much as I thought I did. They're all very Christian, and many of them, if not most, would not date a man who doesn't share their religion.

I think Atheist women would also be into the same traditional masculine traits too either way. Especially if they also have kids and decent jobs themselves.
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