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Kid_Buu 03/22/18 12:34:56 PM #1:	being trans isn't a mental illness because a mental illness must negatively impact your life. gender dysphoria is a mental illness because it negatively impacts your life. there are trans people who are not dysphoric. examples include people who are satisfied with their transition, non-binary people, and trans people who only experience gender euphoria and not dysphoria. Kannys note: gender euphoria is the term for being happy with transitioning. like if you get called your chosen name and it feels great. --- I am Kaname_Madoka SASUGA MUTEN SHANTSA SAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <cite>Kid_Buu posted [p:898283165] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote>being trans isn't a mental illness because a mental illness must negatively impact your life. gender dysphoria is a mental illness because it negatively impacts your life. there are trans people who are not dysphoric. examples include people who are satisfied with their transition, non-binary people, and trans people who only experience gender euphoria and not dysphoria. Kannys note: gender euphoria is the term for being happy with transitioning. like if you get called your chosen name and it feels great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcturus1121 03/22/18 12:37:17 PM #2:	In DSM-V, a book that is used to list criteria for every mental illness, they actually thought about removing gender dysphoria but if they did this then no procedures, medications, therapies, etc... would be covered by insurance so it is one of the reasons it was left in it. --- [l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l] <cite>Arcturus1121 posted [p:898283293] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote>In DSM-V, a book that is used to list criteria for every mental illness, they actually thought about removing gender dysphoria but if they did this then no procedures, medications, therapies, etc... would be covered by insurance so it is one of the reasons it was left in it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 03/22/18 12:38:17 PM #3:	I can't imagine going through a change and accepting your change is only a positive experience. That's a hardship, too. It's gotta be. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:898283356] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote>I can't imagine going through a change and accepting your change is only a positive experience. That's a hardship, too. It's gotta be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 03/22/18 12:39:23 PM #4:	dont they have high suicide rates --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:898283429] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote>dont they have high suicide rates</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kid_Buu 03/22/18 12:43:02 PM #5:	Arcturus1121 posted... In DSM-V, a book that is used to list criteria for every mental illness, they actually thought about removing gender dysphoria but if they did this then no procedures, medications, therapies, etc... would be covered by insurance so it is one of the reasons it was left in it. yeah I never said gender dysphoria isnt a mental illness --- I am Kaname_Madoka SASUGA MUTEN SHANTSA SAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <cite>Kid_Buu posted [p:898283620] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Arcturus1121 posted...</cite> <quote>In DSM-V, a book that is used to list criteria for every mental illness, they actually thought about removing gender dysphoria but if they did this then no procedures, medications, therapies, etc... would be covered by insurance so it is one of the reasons it was left in it.</quote> yeah I never said gender dysphoria isnt a mental illness</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 03/22/18 12:44:21 PM #7:	Kid_Buu posted... being trans isn't a mental illness because a mental illness must negatively impact your life. Having suicide and depression rates more than 10x higher than the general population definitely has a negative impact in your life. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:898283707] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kid_Buu posted...</cite> <quote>being trans isn't a mental illness because a mental illness must negatively impact your life. </quote> Having suicide and depression rates more than 10x higher than the general population definitely has a negative impact in your life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kid_Buu 03/22/18 12:45:43 PM #8:	Asherlee10 posted... Kid_Buu posted... a mental illness must negatively impact your life. I'm not sure that is accurate. Where are you getting that info from? dsm 5 --- I am Kaname_Madoka SASUGA MUTEN SHANTSA SAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <cite>Kid_Buu posted [p:898283786] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kid_Buu posted...</cite> <quote>a mental illness must negatively impact your life. </quote> I'm not sure that is accurate. Where are you getting that info from?</quote> dsm 5</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 03/22/18 12:45:55 PM #9:	Aint it all basically coming down to a hormone imbalance in the brain? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:898283803] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote>Aint it all basically coming down to a hormone imbalance in the brain?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kid_Buu 03/22/18 12:46:01 PM #10:	The Admiral posted... Kid_Buu posted... being trans isn't a mental illness because a mental illness must negatively impact your life. Having suicide and depression rates more than 10x higher than the general population definitely has a negative impact in your life. I'm not suicidal, nor am I depressed. shrug --- I am Kaname_Madoka SASUGA MUTEN SHANTSA SAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <cite>Kid_Buu posted [p:898283811] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kid_Buu posted...</cite> <quote>being trans isn't a mental illness because a mental illness must negatively impact your life. </quote> Having suicide and depression rates more than 10x higher than the general population definitely has a negative impact in your life.</quote> I'm not suicidal, nor am I depressed. shrug</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 03/22/18 12:46:35 PM #11:	Asherlee10 posted... Kid_Buu posted... a mental illness must negatively impact your life. I'm not sure that is accurate. Where are you getting that info from? If it's interchangeable with "disorder" then that's basically the definition. Everyone deals with aberrant brain chemistry to some extent, but the point where it negatively impacts your life to a large extent is when it crosses the threshold into disorder territory. --- ultimate milf hunter https://i.imgur.com/lCEdce6.gifv https://i.imgur.com/2N1Ezia.gifv https://i.imgur.com/ukJ6sPJ.jpg https://youtu.be/IDYaHvDiTr4 <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:898283841] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kid_Buu posted...</cite> <quote>a mental illness must negatively impact your life. </quote> I'm not sure that is accurate. Where are you getting that info from?</quote> If it's interchangeable with "disorder" then that's basically the definition. Everyone deals with aberrant brain chemistry to some extent, but the point where it negatively impacts your life to a large extent is when it crosses the threshold into disorder territory.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kid_Buu 03/22/18 12:46:59 PM #12:	Foppe posted... Aint it all basically coming down to a hormone imbalance in the brain? that's a common theory yeah. --- I am Kaname_Madoka SASUGA MUTEN SHANTSA SAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <cite>Kid_Buu posted [p:898283863] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Foppe posted...</cite> <quote>Aint it all basically coming down to a hormone imbalance in the brain?</quote> that's a common theory yeah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 03/22/18 12:51:44 PM #14:	refmon posted... dont they have high suicide rates I'm not suicidal. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:898284113] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>refmon posted...</cite> <quote>dont they have high suicide rates</quote> I'm not suicidal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Proclose 03/22/18 12:52:30 PM #15:	But for those who can't or haven't started transitioning, the chances of them having dysphoria and not having euphoria would rise, no? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>Proclose posted [p:898284148] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote>But for those who can't or haven't started transitioning, the chances of them having dysphoria and not having euphoria would rise, no?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kid_Buu 03/22/18 12:52:37 PM #17:	Asherlee10 posted... Kid_Buu posted... Asherlee10 posted... Kid_Buu posted... a mental illness must negatively impact your life. I'm not sure that is accurate. Where are you getting that info from? dsm 5 Want to provide where in the entire DSM 5 you are referencing that? I'm on mobile right now so I can't sift through it right now but here's a mayo clinic link instead https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mental-illness/symptoms-causes/syc-20374968 Many people have mental health concerns from time to time. But a mental health concern becomes a mental illness when ongoing signs and symptoms cause frequent stress and affect your ability to function. --- I am Kaname_Madoka SASUGA MUTEN SHANTSA SAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <cite>Kid_Buu posted [p:898284159] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kid_Buu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kid_Buu posted...</cite> <quote>a mental illness must negatively impact your life. </quote> I'm not sure that is accurate. Where are you getting that info from?</quote> dsm 5</quote> Want to provide where in the entire DSM 5 you are referencing that?</quote> I'm on mobile right now so I can't sift through it right now but here's a mayo clinic link instead https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mental-illness/symptoms-causes/syc-20374968 Many people have mental health concerns from time to time. But a mental health concern becomes a mental illness when ongoing signs and symptoms cause frequent stress and affect your ability to function.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 03/22/18 1:05:18 PM #18:	Kid_Buu posted... there are trans people who are not dysphoric. examples include people who are satisfied with their transition This is a very silly common statement. "There are people with Bipolar 1 without mania if they keep it stabilized with medication!" --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:898284879] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kid_Buu posted...</cite> <quote>there are trans people who are not dysphoric. examples include people who are satisfied with their transition</quote> This is a very silly common statement. "There are people with Bipolar 1 without mania if they keep it stabilized with medication!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonGirlYuki 03/22/18 1:10:00 PM #20:	Sayoria posted... refmon posted... dont they have high suicide rates I'm not suicidal. A sample size of 1 isn't good for determining overall suicide rates. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:898285160] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>refmon posted...</cite> <quote>dont they have high suicide rates</quote> I'm not suicidal.</quote> A sample size of 1 isn't good for determining overall suicide rates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myzz7 03/22/18 1:10:59 PM #21:	Kid_Buu posted... gender dysphoria is a mental illness because it negatively impacts your life. suicide attempts 42-46% https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf if that's not indicative of mental illness then i don't know what is. --- http://s10.postimage.org/mxioonsd1/gildavatar.gif http://gifgifs.com/res/0916/57ebaeea6c7a9047727112.gif <cite>myzz7 posted [p:898285230] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kid_Buu posted...</cite> <quote>gender dysphoria is a mental illness because it negatively impacts your life. </quote> suicide attempts 42-46% https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf if that's not indicative of mental illness then i don't know what is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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r4X0r 03/22/18 1:38:03 PM #23:	Liberals: "Being confused as to your gender isn't a mental illness!" Also liberals: "Wanting to own a firearm is totally a mental illness!" --- I faced it all and I stood tall- And did it my way. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:898286884] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote>Liberals: "Being confused as to your gender isn't a mental illness!" Also liberals: "Wanting to own a firearm is totally a mental illness!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 03/22/18 1:38:03 PM #24:	DragonGirlYuki posted... Sayoria posted... refmon posted... dont they have high suicide rates I'm not suicidal. A sample size of 1 isn't good for determining overall suicide rates. Same can be said about the idea of a "man" going into the women's room and to peep on women/harrass women. Any one or two people who were to try to do that shouldn't speak against us as a group. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:898286887] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>refmon posted...</cite> <quote>dont they have high suicide rates</quote> I'm not suicidal.</quote> A sample size of 1 isn't good for determining overall suicide rates.</quote> Same can be said about the idea of a "man" going into the women's room and to peep on women/harrass women. Any one or two people who were to try to do that shouldn't speak against us as a group.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 03/22/18 1:38:40 PM #25:	r4X0r posted... Liberals: "Being confused as to your gender isn't a mental illness!" Also liberals: "Wanting to own a firearm is totally a mental illness!" I have never heard a liberal say that second line. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:898286923] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals: "Being confused as to your gender isn't a mental illness!" Also liberals: "Wanting to own a firearm is totally a mental illness!"</quote> I have never heard a liberal say that second line.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/22/18 1:40:36 PM #26:	myzz7 posted... Kid_Buu posted... gender dysphoria is a mental illness because it negatively impacts your life. suicide attempts 42-46% https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf if that's not indicative of mental illness then i don't know what is. This. I'm sure someone will come in and say that the suicide rate is 100% the result of society and has nothing to do with brain chemistry, but I will laugh at those people. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:898287036] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>myzz7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kid_Buu posted...</cite> <quote>gender dysphoria is a mental illness because it negatively impacts your life. </quote> suicide attempts 42-46% https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf if that's not indicative of mental illness then i don't know what is.</quote> This. I'm sure someone will come in and say that the suicide rate is 100% the result of society and has nothing to do with brain chemistry, but I will laugh at those people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoseIsHorriblle 03/22/18 1:45:32 PM #27:	Gender dysphoria is a mental disease and there is nothing you can do to disprove it. Transgendered are mentally ill. This is science we are talking about. You can either accept science or choose to ignore it but that won't change reality. <cite>RoseIsHorriblle posted [p:898287289] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote>Gender dysphoria is a mental disease and there is nothing you can do to disprove it. Transgendered are mentally ill. This is science we are talking about. You can either accept science or choose to ignore it but that won't change reality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 03/22/18 1:48:25 PM #28:	PC culture and the general stigma on mental health would rather have people deny there is a problem rather than confront it. Also lol @r4X0r I guess some liberals do think owning any gun makes you a crazy gun nut. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:898287471] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote>PC culture and the general stigma on mental health would rather have people deny there is a problem rather than confront it. Also lol @r4X0r I guess some liberals do think owning any gun makes you a crazy gun nut.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 03/22/18 1:50:32 PM #29:	DragonGirlYuki posted... PC culture and the general stigma on mental health would rather have people deny there is a problem rather than confront it. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:898287593] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>PC culture and the general stigma on mental health would rather have people deny there is a problem rather than confront it. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The23rdMagus 03/22/18 1:51:03 PM #30:	Asherlee10 posted... Kid_Buu posted... Asherlee10 posted... Kid_Buu posted... Asherlee10 posted... Kid_Buu posted... a mental illness must negatively impact your life. I'm not sure that is accurate. Where are you getting that info from? dsm 5 Want to provide where in the entire DSM 5 you are referencing that? I'm on mobile right now so I can't sift through it right now but here's a mayo clinic link instead https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mental-illness/symptoms-causes/syc-20374968 Many people have mental health concerns from time to time. But a mental health concern becomes a mental illness when ongoing signs and symptoms cause frequent stress and affect your ability to function. Mental illness can be mental illness without significant stress or inhibit someone's ability to function. See posts #16 and #18 My concern is the ulterior motive I often see of using a mental illness classification to stigmatize others. Calling someone "mentally ill" is loaded beyond belief in this day and age. --- ~Drewnami: The Drew abides.~ Gonads are useful for their purpose, but they are no substitute for brains. -Paul Harvey <cite>The23rdMagus posted [p:898287616] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kid_Buu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kid_Buu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kid_Buu posted...</cite> <quote>a mental illness must negatively impact your life. </quote> I'm not sure that is accurate. Where are you getting that info from?</quote> dsm 5</quote> Want to provide where in the entire DSM 5 you are referencing that?</quote> I'm on mobile right now so I can't sift through it right now but here's a mayo clinic link instead https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mental-illness/symptoms-causes/syc-20374968 Many people have mental health concerns from time to time. But a mental health concern becomes a mental illness when ongoing signs and symptoms cause frequent stress and affect your ability to function.</quote> Mental illness can be mental illness without significant stress or inhibit someone's ability to function. See posts #16 and #18</quote> My concern is the ulterior motive I often see of using a mental illness classification to stigmatize others. Calling someone "mentally ill" is loaded beyond belief in this day and age.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
halomonkey1_3_5 03/22/18 1:52:10 PM #31:	s0nicfan posted... This. I'm sure someone will come in and say that the suicide rate is 100% the result of society and has nothing to do with brain chemistry, but I will laugh at those people. the general US population has a suicide attempt rate of 4.6% Gay, lesbian and bisexual people have a suicide attempt rate somewhere around 10-20% Transgender people have a suicide attempt rate of 41% obviously, every LGBT persons brain is just naturally more fucked up than heterosexual people, and societies treatment of those people has absolutely no bearing on their suicide attempt rates --- Billy Mays: July 20, 1958 - June 28, 2009 The Greatest <cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted [p:898287683] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>This. I'm sure someone will come in and say that the suicide rate is 100% the result of society and has nothing to do with brain chemistry, but I will laugh at those people. </quote> the general US population has a suicide attempt rate of 4.6% Gay, lesbian and bisexual people have a suicide attempt rate somewhere around 10-20% Transgender people have a suicide attempt rate of 41% obviously, every LGBT persons brain is just naturally more fucked up than heterosexual people, and societies treatment of those people has absolutely no bearing on their suicide attempt rates</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 03/22/18 1:52:42 PM #32:	Wait it's not? --- https://i.imgtc.com/usDFlRA.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/GSrk8Nh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TAaXq7d.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/BnnNepT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ggQozRe.png <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:898287711] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote>Wait it's not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The23rdMagus 03/22/18 1:55:12 PM #33:	halomonkey1_3_5 posted... s0nicfan posted... This. I'm sure someone will come in and say that the suicide rate is 100% the result of society and has nothing to do with brain chemistry, but I will laugh at those people. the general US population has a suicide attempt rate of 4.6% Gay, lesbian and bisexual people have a suicide attempt rate somewhere around 10-20% Transgender people have a suicide attempt rate of 41% obviously, every LGBT persons brain is just naturally more fucked up than heterosexual people, and societies treatment of those people has absolutely no bearing on their suicide attempt rates I get what you're saying, but also understand that a lot of people like to conflate gender identity with sexual identity as it is, so this should probably be understood that it's in terms of suicide rates of marginalized groups. --- ~Drewnami: The Drew abides.~ Gonads are useful for their purpose, but they are no substitute for brains. -Paul Harvey <cite>The23rdMagus posted [p:898287878] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>This. I'm sure someone will come in and say that the suicide rate is 100% the result of society and has nothing to do with brain chemistry, but I will laugh at those people. </quote> the general US population has a suicide attempt rate of 4.6% Gay, lesbian and bisexual people have a suicide attempt rate somewhere around 10-20% Transgender people have a suicide attempt rate of 41% obviously, every LGBT persons brain is just naturally more fucked up than heterosexual people, and societies treatment of those people has absolutely no bearing on their suicide attempt rates</quote> I get what you're saying, but also understand that a lot of people like to conflate gender identity with sexual identity as it is, so this should probably be understood that it's in terms of suicide rates of marginalized groups.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 03/22/18 1:56:25 PM #34:	DragonGirlYuki posted... PC culture and the general stigma on mental health would rather have people deny there is a problem rather than confront it. Also lol @r4X0r I guess some liberals do think owning any gun makes you a crazy gun nut. If I am happy doing what I am doing and my choices effect no one other than myself, stay the fuck out of my life. It's simple as that. Society today gets involved in issues that doesn't concern them. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:898287939] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>PC culture and the general stigma on mental health would rather have people deny there is a problem rather than confront it. Also lol @r4X0r I guess some liberals do think owning any gun makes you a crazy gun nut.</quote> If I am happy doing what I am doing and my choices effect no one other than myself, stay the fuck out of my life. It's simple as that. Society today gets involved in issues that doesn't concern them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/22/18 1:56:28 PM #35:	it typically causes mental illness at the very least --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:898287942] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote>it typically causes mental illness at the very least</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 03/22/18 1:57:53 PM #36:	obviously, every LGBT persons brain is just naturally more fucked up than heterosexual people, and societies treatment of those people has absolutely no bearing on their suicide attempt rates So do bipolar people also have higher suicide rates because people treat them badly? --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:898288016] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><quote>obviously, every LGBT persons brain is just naturally more fucked up than heterosexual people, and societies treatment of those people has absolutely no bearing on their suicide attempt rates</quote> So do bipolar people also have higher suicide rates because people treat them badly?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/22/18 1:59:39 PM #37:	halomonkey1_3_5 posted... s0nicfan posted... This. I'm sure someone will come in and say that the suicide rate is 100% the result of society and has nothing to do with brain chemistry, but I will laugh at those people. the general US population has a suicide attempt rate of 4.6% Gay, lesbian and bisexual people have a suicide attempt rate somewhere around 10-20% Transgender people have a suicide attempt rate of 41% obviously, every LGBT persons brain is just naturally more fucked up than heterosexual people, and societies treatment of those people has absolutely no bearing on their suicide attempt rates It's cute how you list out the different suicide rates for LGB and Trans people and then attempt to bundle them together into the same conclusion as if they're the same. It's also cute how you did exactly what I assumed someone would by implying that society's impact on the rates explains the full (or vast majority of the) 5-10X jump in rates compared to everyone else. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:898288127] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>This. I'm sure someone will come in and say that the suicide rate is 100% the result of society and has nothing to do with brain chemistry, but I will laugh at those people. </quote> the general US population has a suicide attempt rate of 4.6% Gay, lesbian and bisexual people have a suicide attempt rate somewhere around 10-20% Transgender people have a suicide attempt rate of 41% obviously, every LGBT persons brain is just naturally more fucked up than heterosexual people, and societies treatment of those people has absolutely no bearing on their suicide attempt rates</quote> It's cute how you list out the different suicide rates for LGB and Trans people and then attempt to bundle them together into the same conclusion as if they're the same. It's also cute how you did exactly what I assumed someone would by implying that society's impact on the rates explains the full (or vast majority of the) 5-10X jump in rates compared to everyone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 03/22/18 2:00:29 PM #38:	SageHarpuia posted... obviously, every LGBT persons brain is just naturally more fucked up than heterosexual people, and societies treatment of those people has absolutely no bearing on their suicide attempt rates So do bipolar people also have higher suicide rates because people treat them badly? You are a damn i.... if you think society hasn't been a living Hell for LGBT people. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:898288175] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote><quote>obviously, every LGBT persons brain is just naturally more fucked up than heterosexual people, and societies treatment of those people has absolutely no bearing on their suicide attempt rates</quote> So do bipolar people also have higher suicide rates because people treat them badly?</quote> You are a damn i.... if you think society hasn't been a living Hell for LGBT people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 03/22/18 2:01:09 PM #39:	Sayoria posted... DragonGirlYuki posted... PC culture and the general stigma on mental health would rather have people deny there is a problem rather than confront it. Also lol @r4X0r I guess some liberals do think owning any gun makes you a crazy gun nut. If I am happy doing what I am doing and my choices effect no one other than myself, stay the fuck out of my life. It's simple as that. Society today gets involved in issues that doesn't concern them. Agreed. Government has no place in the nation's bedrooms. Also if I am being responsible and not hurting anyone with my guns, stop trying to take them away from me. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:898288215] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>PC culture and the general stigma on mental health would rather have people deny there is a problem rather than confront it. Also lol @r4X0r I guess some liberals do think owning any gun makes you a crazy gun nut.</quote> If I am happy doing what I am doing and my choices effect no one other than myself, stay the fuck out of my life. It's simple as that. Society today gets involved in issues that doesn't concern them.</quote> Agreed. Government has no place in the nation's bedrooms. Also if I am being responsible and not hurting anyone with my guns, stop trying to take them away from me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 03/22/18 2:02:28 PM #40:	Sayoria posted... r4X0r posted... Liberals: "Being confused as to your gender isn't a mental illness!" Also liberals: "Wanting to own a firearm is totally a mental illness!" I have never heard a liberal say that second line. If you've never heard somebody accuse gun owners of having Paranoid Person Disorder then you must not get out much. Go google "Gun owners are paranoid" if you're actually being honest and have never heard that. --- I faced it all and I stood tall- And did it my way. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:898288285] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals: "Being confused as to your gender isn't a mental illness!" Also liberals: "Wanting to own a firearm is totally a mental illness!"</quote> I have never heard a liberal say that second line.</quote> If you've never heard somebody accuse gun owners of having Paranoid Person Disorder then you must not get out much. Go google "Gun owners are paranoid" if you're actually being honest and have never heard that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 03/22/18 2:02:32 PM #41:	Sayoria posted... SageHarpuia posted... obviously, every LGBT persons brain is just naturally more fucked up than heterosexual people, and societies treatment of those people has absolutely no bearing on their suicide attempt rates So do bipolar people also have higher suicide rates because people treat them badly? You are a damn i.... if you think society hasn't been a living Hell for LGBT people. That wasn't my question though. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:898288291] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote><quote>obviously, every LGBT persons brain is just naturally more fucked up than heterosexual people, and societies treatment of those people has absolutely no bearing on their suicide attempt rates</quote> So do bipolar people also have higher suicide rates because people treat them badly?</quote> You are a damn i.... if you think society hasn't been a living Hell for LGBT people.</quote> That wasn't my question though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 03/22/18 2:05:04 PM #42:	s0nicfan posted... cute Why does every super trans person who argues say shit like this? --- https://i.imgtc.com/usDFlRA.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/GSrk8Nh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TAaXq7d.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/BnnNepT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ggQozRe.png <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:898288455] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>cute</quote> Why does every super trans person who argues say shit like this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 03/22/18 2:06:51 PM #43:	DragonGirlYuki posted... Agreed. Government has no place in the nation's bedrooms. Also if I am being responsible and not hurting anyone with my guns, stop trying to take them away from me. I never said people should take your guns. You are protected by the second amendment and it should remain that way. Shit still needs to be done though. r4X0r posted... If you've never heard somebody accuse gun owners of having Paranoid Person Disorder then you must not get out much. Go google "Gun owners are paranoid" if you're actually being honest and have never heard that. That one also introduces a hilarious double standard of "Gun owners are paranoid people" and "I'm paranoid that any gun owner could shoot me at any time" but this is a thread about people who don't know what gender to pick, not people who don't know what caliber to pick. Not denying it has never, ever happened. I just never once heard it from anyone and I know super crazy liberals. SageHarpuia posted... Sayoria posted... SageHarpuia posted... obviously, every LGBT persons brain is just naturally more fucked up than heterosexual people, and societies treatment of those people has absolutely no bearing on their suicide attempt rates So do bipolar people also have higher suicide rates because people treat them badly? You are a damn i.... if you think society hasn't been a living Hell for LGBT people. That wasn't my question though. My point still stands. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:898288548] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote> Agreed. Government has no place in the nation's bedrooms. Also if I am being responsible and not hurting anyone with my guns, stop trying to take them away from me.</quote> I never said people should take your guns. You are protected by the second amendment and it should remain that way. Shit still needs to be done though. <cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote> If you've never heard somebody accuse gun owners of having Paranoid Person Disorder then you must not get out much. Go google "Gun owners are paranoid" if you're actually being honest and have never heard that. That one also introduces a hilarious double standard of "Gun owners are paranoid people" and "I'm paranoid that any gun owner could shoot me at any time" but this is a thread about people who don't know what gender to pick, not people who don't know what caliber to pick.</quote> Not denying it has never, ever happened. I just never once heard it from anyone and I know super crazy liberals. <cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote><quote>obviously, every LGBT persons brain is just naturally more fucked up than heterosexual people, and societies treatment of those people has absolutely no bearing on their suicide attempt rates</quote> So do bipolar people also have higher suicide rates because people treat them badly?</quote> You are a damn i.... if you think society hasn't been a living Hell for LGBT people.</quote> That wasn't my question though.</quote> My point still stands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 03/22/18 2:07:26 PM #44:	DocileOrangeCup posted... s0nicfan posted... cute Why does every super trans person who argues say shit like this? Super trans person? Fuck, sign me up. Where's my cape? --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:898288589] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>DocileOrangeCup posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>cute</quote> Why does every super trans person who argues say shit like this?</quote> Super trans person? Fuck, sign me up. Where's my cape?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 03/22/18 2:08:09 PM #45:	Sayoria posted... Super trans person? Fuck, sign me up. Where's my cape? You don't qualify sorry --- https://i.imgtc.com/usDFlRA.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/GSrk8Nh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TAaXq7d.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/BnnNepT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ggQozRe.png <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:898288642] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Super trans person? Fuck, sign me up. Where's my cape?</quote> You don't qualify sorry</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 03/22/18 2:09:20 PM #46:	The thing is the left wants to ban certain guns just because they look scary and it hurts their feelings, even though they are rarely used in crime. Basically it is an emotional response not grounded in fact. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:898288706] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote>The thing is the left wants to ban certain guns just because they look scary and it hurts their feelings, even though they are rarely used in crime. Basically it is an emotional response not grounded in fact.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Proclose 03/22/18 2:13:04 PM #47:	This topic is a mess --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>Proclose posted [p:898288920] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote>This topic is a mess</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 03/22/18 2:14:38 PM #48:	Proclose posted... This topic is a mess It was likely intended to be one from the topic creater. Their main is warned too. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:898289016] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Proclose posted...</cite> <quote>This topic is a mess</quote> It was likely intended to be one from the topic creater. Their main is warned too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 03/22/18 2:15:01 PM #49:	DocileOrangeCup posted... Sayoria posted... Super trans person? Fuck, sign me up. Where's my cape? You don't qualify sorry Why not? I have x-ray vision and I have the power to burn people. DragonGirlYuki posted... The thing is the left wants to ban certain guns just because they look scary and it hurts their feelings, even though they are rarely used in crime. Basically it is an emotional response not grounded in fact. And I'm not a left person. I know about a shooting in Texas last year that was stopped by a man with a gun. 26 dead. The man used an AR-15. Saved the place from further damage. If we banned guns, how would we protect ourselves from people who illegally get them? People with them illegally wowuld be like "Shit, no cops near here. No one has a gun. I can just score so many points in here before someone will stop me!" .... I mean cmon. Yes, the left speaks of emotion and their emotion and heart is in the right place, but that's why I am not left. I like thinking logical when I am not trolling. I know shit about guns and I am happy to admit it. But I'll still say that while I support guns in some instances, I generally hate the NRA. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:898289027] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>DocileOrangeCup posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Super trans person? Fuck, sign me up. Where's my cape?</quote> You don't qualify sorry</quote> Why not? I have x-ray vision and I have the power to burn people. <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>The thing is the left wants to ban certain guns just because they look scary and it hurts their feelings, even though they are rarely used in crime. Basically it is an emotional response not grounded in fact.</quote> And I'm not a left person. I know about a shooting in Texas last year that was stopped by a man with a gun. 26 dead. The man used an AR-15. Saved the place from further damage. If we banned guns, how would we protect ourselves from people who illegally get them? People with them illegally wowuld be like "Shit, no cops near here. No one has a gun. I can just score so many points in here before someone will stop me!" .... I mean cmon. Yes, the left speaks of emotion and their emotion and heart is in the right place, but that's why I am not left. I like thinking logical when I am not trolling. I know shit about guns and I am happy to admit it. But I'll still say that while I support guns in some instances, I generally hate the NRA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Proclose 03/22/18 2:15:27 PM #50:	DragonGirlYuki posted... Proclose posted... This topic is a mess It was likely intended to be one from the topic creater. Their main is warned too. Trans things are one of the few things she takes seriously, so I doubt it. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>Proclose posted [p:898289044] in "Why ... [t:76441446]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Proclose posted...</cite> <quote> This topic is a mess</quote> It was likely intended to be one from the topic creater. Their main is warned too.</quote> Trans things are one of the few things she takes seriously, so I doubt it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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