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CruelBuffalo
03/22/18 2:18:23 PM
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I love non medical professionals arguing about medical terms
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IslamMD
03/22/18 2:18:54 PM
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I will just leave this here

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/28/the-w-h-o-says-being-transgender-is-a-mental-illness-but-thats-about-to-change/

We found distress and dysfunction were very powerfully predicted by the experiences of social rejection or violence that people had, he said. But they were not actually predicted by gender incongruence itself. This finding contradicts the basic classification of a mental illness, which is that distress or dysfunction are essential elements of the condition, the paper said.

Reed hopes his work shows that being transgender does not have to equate to suffering. Its actually the external factors, Reed said, that cause the suffering: the societal stigma, the violence and the prejudices. Remove them, and all that remains is the feeling of gender incongruence, the label proposed in ICD-11 in a new chapter called Conditions Related to Sexual Health, which will be medically and biologically oriented.

This issue echoes past controversies. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), the psychiatric disorder guidebook, once included homosexuality as a mental illness. In 1973, the diagnosis became sexual orientation disturbance, and then disappeared completely in 1987, largely because of gay rights advocates.

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DragonGirlYuki
03/22/18 2:20:36 PM
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Sayoria posted...
And I'm not a left person. I know about a shooting in Texas last year that was stopped by a man with a gun. 26 dead. The man used an AR-15. Saved the place from further damage. If we banned guns, how would we protect ourselves from people who illegally get them? People with them illegally wowuld be like "s***, no cops near here. No one has a gun. I can just score so many points in here before someone will stop me!" ....

I mean cmon. Yes, the left speaks of emotion and their emotion and heart is in the right place, but that's why I am not left. I like thinking logical when I am not trolling. I know s*** about guns and I am happy to admit it. But I'll still say that while I support guns in some instances, I generally hate the NRA.


Glad that you are logical and knowledgeable about the subject. Yeah taking away guns is only going to harm law abiding citizens. Bad guys don't care for the law anyways.

The NRA has kinda gone off the deep end. They are too commercialized these days.
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_Goggalor_
03/22/18 2:20:44 PM
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I'd say dysphoria qualifies as a mental illness.
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Kid_Buu
03/22/18 2:39:32 PM
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why the fuck are you people talking about guns
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CruelBuffalo
03/22/18 2:59:39 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
I love non medical professionals arguing about medical terms


It's good to have an open dialogue, though.


With knowledgeable people capable of hearing others and willing to change their minds.

Not people who already have their mind made up haphazardly using non-medical definitions as medical terms to justify their idea
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Foppe
03/22/18 3:29:57 PM
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Kid_Buu posted...
why the fuck are you people talking about guns

Because America!
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s0nicfan
03/22/18 3:44:10 PM
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IslamMD posted...
I will just leave this here

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/28/the-w-h-o-says-being-transgender-is-a-mental-illness-but-thats-about-to-change/

We found distress and dysfunction were very powerfully predicted by the experiences of social rejection or violence that people had, he said. But they were not actually predicted by gender incongruence itself. This finding contradicts the basic classification of a mental illness, which is that distress or dysfunction are essential elements of the condition, the paper said.

Reed hopes his work shows that being transgender does not have to equate to suffering. Its actually the external factors, Reed said, that cause the suffering: the societal stigma, the violence and the prejudices. Remove them, and all that remains is the feeling of gender incongruence, the label proposed in ICD-11 in a new chapter called Conditions Related to Sexual Health, which will be medically and biologically oriented.

This issue echoes past controversies. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), the psychiatric disorder guidebook, once included homosexuality as a mental illness. In 1973, the diagnosis became sexual orientation disturbance, and then disappeared completely in 1987, largely because of gay rights advocates.


Historical suicide rates for homosexual men was <20% going back to before it was openly accepted in society, so the idea that it's a societal problem and not a personal problem isn't based on the actual evidence. Even assuming the most generous recorded rates, Trans people are still committing suicide at twice the rate of homosexuals during the AIDS epidemic. It's a very real problem, and we need to find a way to deal with it, but plugging your ears and screaming that "If society was nicer it would go away" is at best not helping the problem, at worst making it harder to solve.

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DragonGirlYuki
03/22/18 3:44:36 PM
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Kid_Buu posted...
why the fuck are you people talking about guns

Why not? Guns are awesome.
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Dusk_
03/22/18 3:51:03 PM
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It is a metal illness.. this is fact.
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CruelBuffalo
03/22/18 4:30:30 PM
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Dusk_ posted...
It is a metal illness.. this is fact.

http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx

I guess they disagree :(
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Sayoria
03/22/18 5:13:06 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Dusk_ posted...
It is a metal illness.. this is fact.

http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx

I guess they disagree :(


People on forums know more than researchers.
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Kid_Buu
03/22/18 5:13:49 PM
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Sayoria posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Dusk_ posted...
It is a metal illness.. this is fact.

http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx

I guess they disagree :(


People on forums know more than researchers.

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Kid_Buu
03/23/18 2:32:46 AM
#66:


hmm
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Eevee-Trainer
03/23/18 2:59:19 AM
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@DocileOrangeCup

Do I qualify as a super trans person?
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Nightmare_Luna
03/23/18 3:13:50 AM
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what the fuck is a non binary

what does that even mean
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Vulgorn
03/23/18 3:21:06 AM
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Eevee-Trainer posted...
@DocileOrangeCup

Do I qualify as a super trans person?


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Zeeak4444
03/23/18 3:21:25 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Dusk_ posted...
It is a metal illness.. this is fact.

http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx

I guess they disagree :(


I'll never understand people like him. Everytime I see him post it's something equally as garbage as that statement.
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ModLogic
03/23/18 3:31:56 AM
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Zeeak4444
03/23/18 3:35:23 AM
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ModLogic posted...
Kid_Buu posted...
must negatively impact your life.

so like anti consumer gaming fanboyism


I know your just messing around but idk if the OP has been corrected yet so here we go.

No because that statement is wrong. It must cause severe distress or impairment. Just negatively impacting your life is a terrible understatement.
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ModLogic
03/23/18 3:39:25 AM
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no im quite serious. fanboyism needs to be taken seriously. there could be treatment for sufferers.
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DocileOrangeCup
03/23/18 1:28:44 PM
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Eevee-Trainer posted...
@DocileOrangeCup

Do I qualify as a super trans person?

Hmmmm

What are your abilities?
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Eevee-Trainer
03/23/18 2:02:40 PM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
What are your abilities?

I can throw bricks extremely well and I'm cute as hell.
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DocileOrangeCup
03/23/18 2:21:34 PM
#76:


Eevee-Trainer posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...
What are your abilities?

I can throw bricks extremely well and I'm cute as hell.

So hell of an arm and conceited.... 50/50.
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ForestLogic
03/23/18 2:24:45 PM
#77:


Sayoria posted...
Same can be said about the idea of a "man" going into the women's room and to peep on women/harrass women. Any one or two people who were to try to do that shouldn't speak against us as a group.


You're the first and only person who brought that up in this topic. Try harder next time.
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Kid_Buu
03/24/18 1:25:47 PM
#78:


bunp
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Kaname_Madoka
03/25/18 6:12:17 AM
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Kid_Buu posted...
bunp

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