Poll of the Day > 22 y/o Girl Arrested in a BIKINI Sobs UNCONTROLLABLY as she got 14 YEARS Prison

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Full Throttle
03/09/18 10:47:42 PM
#1:


Would you want someone to get a lenient sentence if they were "remorseful"?


22 y/o Former College Student, Shana Elliot was imprisoned to 14 YEARS in Prison after the drunk college student killed a father and his UNBORN child in a car crash!!

She got 7 years for each life she took as she was arrested in 2016 for it. Shana was dressed in a BIKINI when she was arrested and was disorientated when she was seen walking back and forth on the road as she told a cop "Kill me now, please".

The horrific crash claimed the lives of 23 y/o Fabian Guerrero Moreno and injured his 5 months pregnant wife, Kristin Nicole who lost her unborn child in the accident

Kristin said "You've shown you're incapable of remorse, i don't buy your crocodile tears, or the sweet little innocent girl they try to portray you to be. You're a monster, you're not sorry for what you've done, you're sorry because it landed you right there, you're sorry because you go caught"

Shana will also face 10 years probation for intoxication assaults in the case which is set at a later date if her sentences take place consecutively

She issued an apology with "I just want to say to the victim's family that i'm sorry from the deepest of my heart and i know that an apology doesn't do much, i know it doesn't, but i pray for forgiveness every day"

A cam video showed Sahan walking in a line in a sobriety test for a cop as she sobs and struggles to walk straight where she begged the officer to KILL HER following the fatal crash.

Her blood alcohol was .199 where the legal limit is 0.08. She admitted to drinking beer and liquor while floating down the driver at Texas State Tubes with riends that day

Doctors tried saving Kristin's baby by inducing labour but sadly the child was stillborn

Hours before the crash, the couple checked into Joe's Crab Shack as they celebrated Fabian's new US residency status

Would you want leniency in someone's sentence if they were 'remorseful"?.

Shana in a Bikini doing the sobriety test -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/09/06/4A06B77C00000578-0-image-m-10_1520578179592.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/09/06/4A06B77800000578-0-image-m-11_1520578189971.jpg

Shana - Prisoner

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/09/22/49FEF94100000578-5481111-Texas_State_University_public_relations_student_Shana_Elliot-a-1_1520633015391.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/09/23/4A0CA24000000578-5483999-image-m-9_1520639941717.jpg

Fabian (Deceased) and Kristin -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/08/10/49FEF94F00000578-5476747-image-m-6_1520503670440.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/10/00/4A0CC6EA00000578-5483999-Kristian_Guerrero_pictured_above_Thursday_shared_sharp_words_to_-m-8_1520643513463.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/09/22/49FEF95500000578-5481111-The_happy_couple_had_been_planning_to_host_a_gender_reveal_party-a-2_1520633015392.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/08/10/49FEF95900000578-5476747-image-a-16_1520503783096.jpg

The Crash -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/08/10/49FEF93D00000578-5476747-image-a-5_1520503668220.jpg
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Questionmarktarius
03/09/18 11:07:56 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
Her blood alcohol was .199 where the legal limit is 0.08.

.199 is pretty damn drunk.
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Golden Road
03/09/18 11:21:05 PM
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I'm not sure how she's shown that she's incapable of remorse--it's not the kind of crime where you usually think of someone as an irredeemable monster--but at the same time, I don't really want to argue with the woman who had her husband and baby killed. Genuinely remorseful or not, Shana isn't owed forgiveness.
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wwinterj25
03/09/18 11:22:47 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
Would you want someone to get a lenient sentence if they were "remorseful"?


Nope as you clearly can fake that and even if you wasn't that doesn't make the crime any less of a crime.
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Grendel
03/10/18 5:30:56 AM
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Wait, maybe I'm missing something, but how exactly can the unborn child dying be manslaughter if it's not murder to abort it? Seems like a bit of a contradiction.
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ninja_lootz
03/10/18 5:53:50 AM
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Grendel posted...
Wait, maybe I'm missing something, but how exactly can the unborn child dying be manslaughter if it's not murder to abort it? Seems like a bit of a contradiction.

She should get a reduced sentence for killing a parasite, imo.
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Lokarin
03/10/18 5:58:35 AM
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Need more Car control
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RoboXgp89
03/10/18 6:35:56 AM
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a 5 month old fetus is nothing doesn't even have a nervous system or memory really

if only there was some way to make cars brake when they're about to slam into each other... if only...
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BlackScythe0
03/10/18 7:25:48 AM
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Golden Road posted...
I'm not sure how she's shown that she's incapable of remorse--it's not the kind of crime where you usually think of someone as an irredeemable monster--but at the same time, I don't really want to argue with the woman who had her husband and baby killed. Genuinely remorseful or not, Shana isn't owed forgiveness.


I don't know the details of this case, but if it's like Ethan Couch I can see it.

He is the affulenza dude that got drunk and plowed into a bunch of people then got a slap on the wrist because he was rich only to ignore the orders, because he and his family were monsters, and flee to mexico.

This is the kind of crime where someone can behave in a manner to show they are an irredeemable monster.
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HANGtheDJ_86
03/10/18 9:13:32 AM
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As someone who gets blackout drunk regularly I can safely say that sucks.
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Zeus
03/14/18 11:01:53 PM
#11:


Full Throttle posted...
22 y/o Former College Student, Shana Elliot was imprisoned to 14 YEARS in Prison after the drunk college student killed a father and his UNBORN child in a car crash!!

She got 7 years for each life she took as she was arrested in 2016 for it. Shana was dressed in a BIKINI when she was arrested and was disorientated when she was seen walking back and forth on the road as she told a cop "Kill me now, please".

The horrific crash claimed the lives of 23 y/o Fabian Guerrero Moreno and injured his 5 months pregnant wife, Kristin Nicole who lost her unborn child in the accident


...once again demonstrating that unborn babies are considered 3/5s of a person.

Full Throttle posted...
Hours before the crash, the couple checked into Joe's Crab Shack as they celebrated Fabian's new US residency status


Now that makes it even sadder.

Full Throttle posted...
Would you want leniency in someone's sentence if they were 'remorseful"?.


Not in DUIs. Obviously for a DUI they didn't mean to do something, so the remorse is less genuine.
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Tluhdatsi
03/14/18 11:09:06 PM
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Throw the book at her; she killed two people through criminal negligence. Let her remorse be a factor later, in parole hearings.
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minervo
03/14/18 11:19:18 PM
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Kristin said "You've shown you're incapable of remorse, i don't buy your crocodile tears, or the sweet little innocent girl they try to portray you to be. You're a monster, you're not sorry for what you've done, you're sorry because it landed you right there, you're sorry because you go caught"

I feel bad for the circumstances of the lady, but she needs to find it in her heart to forgive the dumb college student or all that rage will eat her alive.
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dioxxys
03/15/18 12:12:02 AM
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minervo posted...
I feel bad for the circumstances of the lady, but she needs to find it in her heart to forgive the dumb college student or all that rage will eat her alive.

I'd say no.

The woman lost her entire life in that moment, her lover and unborn child were killed by this girl's stupidity, she has all the right to be mad.

Also we need to stop coddling people because they are "young".
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Revelation34
03/15/18 12:20:32 AM
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Golden Road posted...
I'm not sure how she's shown that she's incapable of remorse--it's not the kind of crime where you usually think of someone as an irredeemable monster--but at the same time, I don't really want to argue with the woman who had her husband and baby killed. Genuinely remorseful or not, Shana isn't owed forgiveness.


She was just talking from anger. She doesn't truly mean it.

dioxxys posted...
minervo posted...
I feel bad for the circumstances of the lady, but she needs to find it in her heart to forgive the dumb college student or all that rage will eat her alive.

I'd say no.

The woman lost her entire life in that moment, her lover and unborn child were killed by this girl's stupidity, she has all the right to be mad.

Also we need to stop coddling people because they are "young".


If it isn't a child when they abort it then how is it a child in this case either?
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LittleRoyal
03/15/18 1:13:57 AM
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She killed an unborn baby so no she should get way more than 14 years
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SirPikachu
03/15/18 2:01:11 AM
#17:


Nope, it's fair. She shouldn't made the decision to drive drunk. It's disgusting how many people do it and how many people still die from drunk driving. It's a selfish action and should be punished.
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Sethera
03/15/18 4:57:26 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
If it isn't a child when they abort it then how is it a child in this case either?

I don't know a lot on the subject, but are there actually abortions at 5 months of pregnancy?
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faramir77
03/15/18 5:26:13 AM
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Grendel posted...
Wait, maybe I'm missing something, but how exactly can the unborn child dying be manslaughter if it's not murder to abort it? Seems like a bit of a contradiction.


A woman choosing to have an abortion is not the same as having a forced miscarriage because of a stupid decision made by someone else.

The unborn child is not really a life, but taking that away from the mother is essentially the exact same thing and thus should be treated the same in court.

This moron girl is lucky that she's only getting 14 years for this. At least she'll have some of her youth left when she's released at age 36. I'm also not buying that she's remorseful for this, drinking and driving is universally known to be an insanely stupid idea and she accepted the consequences as soon as she got in the car.
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bulbinking
03/15/18 5:49:00 AM
#20:


Why did she ask for cop to shoot her if she wasnt remorseful?

Pretty sure she saw the gore of the accident, realized the weight of what she did, and wanted to just did instead of suffer through her life getting ruined.

Not saying I think she should get leniancy, just pointing out the flawed logic of this girls accuser.
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Sethera
03/15/18 6:11:09 AM
#21:


bulbinking posted...
Why did she ask for cop to shoot her if she wasnt remorseful?


Not saying she wasn't, but don't forget that
Full Throttle posted...
Her blood alcohol was .199 where the legal limit is 0.08


She was completely hammered.
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Revelation34
03/15/18 1:15:16 PM
#22:


Sethera posted...
I don't know a lot on the subject, but are there actually abortions at 5 months of pregnancy?


Yes.

bulbinking posted...
Why did she ask for cop to shoot her if she wasnt remorseful?

Pretty sure she saw the gore of the accident, realized the weight of what she did, and wanted to just did instead of suffer through her life getting ruined.

Not saying I think she should get leniancy, just pointing out the flawed logic of this girls accuser.


Because people are morons.
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Grendel
03/19/18 4:42:39 AM
#23:


faramir77 posted...

The unborn child is not really a life, but taking that away from the mother is essentially the exact same thing and thus should be treated the same in court.


I don't agree. It's either a person entitled to legal protections or it isn't. Maybe you could go out on a stretch and call it an illegal abortion, but making it a form of murder is hypocritical at best. As much as I want this idiot to have the book thrown at her, I'm not willing to sacrifice legal consistency to do that.
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VeeVees
03/19/18 5:09:00 AM
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should've been death penalty
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yutterh
03/19/18 8:05:40 AM
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Grendel posted...
faramir77 posted...

The unborn child is not really a life, but taking that away from the mother is essentially the exact same thing and thus should be treated the same in court.


I don't agree. It's either a person entitled to legal protections or it isn't. Maybe you could go out on a stretch and call it an illegal abortion, but making it a form of murder is hypocritical at best. As much as I want this idiot to have the book thrown at her, I'm not willing to sacrifice legal consistency to do that.


I'm against abortions unless special circumstances. But even if I was, she denied the woman her child. Getting an abortion and killing someone's unborn child are completely different things. Even trying to argue that the accident should be considered a legal abortion is fuckin stupid. One an abortion is when a person has no intention of raising the child, whatever those reasons may be, and the other is taking someone's hopes and dreams and their future of raising the child. Like I can't even believe y'all are trying to say some shit like this, I usually don't get aggressive or say shit but you all are fuckin morons. *gets ready for moderation*
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TheCyborgNinja
03/19/18 8:22:19 AM
#26:


Golden Road posted...
I'm not sure how she's shown that she's incapable of remorse--it's not the kind of crime where you usually think of someone as an irredeemable monster--but at the same time, I don't really want to argue with the woman who had her husband and baby killed. Genuinely remorseful or not, Shana isn't owed forgiveness.

No she isn't. If you accidentally kill people by doing something objectively stupid and unnecessary, you may as well get the chair. This is the worst post I've seen in a long time and part of the problem with society.
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DrYuya
03/19/18 11:11:40 AM
#27:


Worked at GEICO for about a year. I HATED that we covered drunk driving accidents, because we still defined them as "accidents" when our insured got wasted and then decided to do stupid shit like drive and make sure their stupid drunk ass was affecting the lives of everyone else around them.

Drunk "accidents" are about as close to an intentional act as your going to get IMO. It's just your own stupidity leading you through to a series of choices that could all be easily avoided with more than a couple of brain cells in your head.

I barely see the difference between someone who goes so out of their way to get drunk and be on the road and dangerous enough to kill someone vs someone who doesn't like someone and doesn't know how to keep their emotions in check and decides to kill that person. Just an end product of being someone to stupid to live to begin with really.
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Runner_style
03/19/18 11:57:46 AM
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Remorseful? She's only sorry she got caught.
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Warri0r_Drag0n
03/19/18 12:15:21 PM
#29:


SirPikachu posted...
Nope, it's fair. She shouldn't made the decision to drive drunk. It's disgusting how many people do it and how many people still die from drunk driving. It's a selfish action and should be punished.


This 100%
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goldbman
03/19/18 12:20:37 PM
#30:


LittleRoyal posted...
She killed an unborn baby so no she should get way more than 14 years

But abortion... Anyways the real tragedy is the loss of the grown adults life.
I blame America for tolerating alcohol and not trying to get rid of it via prohibition (which was working)
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Revelation34
03/19/18 12:31:46 PM
#31:


yutterh posted...
I'm against abortions unless special circumstances. But even if I was, she denied the woman her child. Getting an abortion and killing someone's unborn child are completely different things. Even trying to argue that the accident should be considered a legal abortion is fuckin stupid. One an abortion is when a person has no intention of raising the child, whatever those reasons may be, and the other is taking someone's hopes and dreams and their future of raising the child. Like I can't even believe y'all are trying to say some shit like this, I usually don't get aggressive or say shit but you all are fuckin morons. *gets ready for moderation*


Both are fetuses is what the argument is.

TheCyborgNinja posted...

No she isn't. If you accidentally kill people by doing something objectively stupid and unnecessary, you may as well get the chair. This is the worst post I've seen in a long time and part of the problem with society.


There's not enough money in the world to execute somebody for doing something stupid.

goldbman posted...
I blame America for tolerating alcohol and not trying to get rid of it via prohibition (which was working)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M" data-time="

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Questionmarktarius
03/19/18 12:43:10 PM
#32:


goldbman posted...
I blame America for tolerating alcohol and not trying to get rid of it via prohibition (which was working)


http://werehistory.org/why-prohibition-failed/
By 1930, the failures of Prohibition were hard to miss. Despite an effort of nearly a decade, the federal government had been unable to stem liquor traffic, and indeed found itself in the midst of increasing complaints about corruption, crime, casual disregard for the law, and diminishing support for Prohibition itself. While the numbers of drunks staggering in the streets had reportedly declined, the character of drinking had changed. Prohibition encouraged the popularity of the cocktail as a mark of modern sophistication by encouraging mixers that disguised the foul taste of low-quality spirits. Drinking moved away from the dinner table into the public world, and women joined men at speakeasies and nightclubs. Alcoholic beverages accompanied college men and women on their dates. Even Americans who might be leery of indulging in alcohol near their neighbors were more willing to do so far from home. American tourists sought out destinations like Miami and Havana where alcoholic beverages were readily available. As one law enforcement officer wryly noted, in Miami every bellhop served as a bartender.
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PKMNsony
03/19/18 12:46:59 PM
#33:


Depends, does their remorse fix the problem?
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JTekashiro
03/19/18 2:45:56 PM
#34:


PKMNsony posted...
Depends, does their remorse fix the problem?


Does incarcerating her fix the problem?
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VeeVees
03/19/18 4:34:17 PM
#35:


No
and no
That's why she should be executed. It's the only way to guarantee she will never do it again.
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Questionmarktarius
03/19/18 4:49:21 PM
#36:


JTekashiro posted...
PKMNsony posted...
Depends, does their remorse fix the problem?


Does incarcerating her fix the problem?

She's sure as hell not going to drunkedly vehicular-homicide a family for fourteen years.
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Revelation34
03/19/18 4:50:49 PM
#37:


VeeVees posted...
No
and no
That's why she should be executed. It's the only way to guarantee she will never do it again.


Hard to get alcohol or cars in a prison.
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ninja_lootz
03/19/18 6:38:42 PM
#38:


Revelation34 posted...
VeeVees posted...
No
and no
That's why she should be executed. It's the only way to guarantee she will never do it again.


Hard to get alcohol or cars in a prison.

But not impossible. Prison wine is a thing and inmates are well known for their ability to craft machines out of whatever is available. Given enough time she could certainly make a car. Maybe even a sick ass dune buggy.
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DrYuya
03/19/18 8:10:46 PM
#39:


Choking someone put with bare hands is absolutely free if its a debate on the cost effectiveness of execution.

Bludgeoning and bullets to the head are a little more practical but of course as taxpayers wed have to pay for the sticks and bullets. I dont mind my tax dollars going to that though
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Revelation34
03/19/18 10:05:05 PM
#40:


DrYuya posted...
Choking someone put with bare hands is absolutely free if its a debate on the cost effectiveness of execution.

Bludgeoning and bullets to the head are a little more practical but of course as taxpayers wed have to pay for the sticks and bullets. I dont mind my tax dollars going to that though


That's not why the death penalty is so expensive. It's the appeals. Though I think lethal injection is like 30k for an entire syringe. Not exactly sure about that.
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elg3cko
03/19/18 10:14:40 PM
#41:


bulbinking posted...
Why did she ask for cop to shoot her if she wasnt remorseful?

Pretty sure she saw the gore of the accident, realized the weight of what she did, and wanted to just did instead of suffer through her life getting ruined.

Not saying I think she should get leniancy, just pointing out the flawed logic of this girls accuser.


Agreed.

Additionally, I think it should be reduced sentence for the unborn child. As another poster argued, yes, it was not the same as an abortion decision, but there was also no true guarantee the unborn fetus would have made it to full term either.
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