Poll of the Day > Hey America.... ... what's lunch debt?

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Lokarin
03/03/18 9:53:57 PM
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WastelandCowboy
03/03/18 9:56:17 PM
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It's credit that you can use for paying for lunch in school, if you don't bring cash.
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Lokarin
03/03/18 10:03:47 PM
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Why does America do school lunches if you have to pay for them? That seems like a massive drain of resources. It'd be a lot easier to just let the kids go to the 7/11 and get food there
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jsb0714
03/03/18 10:08:57 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Why does America do school lunches if you have to pay for them? That seems like a massive drain of resources. It'd be a lot easier to just let the kids go to the 7/11 and get food there

It is typical of you to be unable to grasp any sort of concept? Perhaps American schools are not what you should be concerned about.
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Mead
03/03/18 10:09:56 PM
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When you eat a light lunch and are still kinda hungry afterwards

You carry a lunch debt until you find a snack or have dinner
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Lokarin
03/03/18 10:10:14 PM
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jsb0714 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Why does America do school lunches if you have to pay for them? That seems like a massive drain of resources. It'd be a lot easier to just let the kids go to the 7/11 and get food there

It is typical of you to be unable to grasp any sort of concept? Perhaps American schools are not what you should be concerned about.


There's an elementary school here, lots of students go to the McDonalds for lunch
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WastelandCowboy
03/03/18 10:14:16 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Why does America do school lunches if you have to pay for them? That seems like a massive drain of resources. It'd be a lot easier to just let the kids go to the 7/11 and get food there

Because someone has to still pay for the food they're eating. Can't get it for free.

If they didn't bring their own lunch to school, aren't of the necessary age to go off-campus for food, they can buy food with either cash or credit. When the time comes, they'll need to pay off the credit, just like everyone else on Earth does with their credit cards.
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myghostisdead
03/03/18 10:15:44 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Why does America do school lunches if you have to pay for them? That seems like a massive drain of resources. It'd be a lot easier to just let the kids go to the 7/11 and get food there


Not all schools make kids pay. The school I used to teach at has free breakfast and lunch for all students and they kept healthy snacks available at all times. They also offer free breakfast and lunch through the summer for anybody under 18.

We don't have 7/11's here and the closest convenience store is a couple miles away, which makes it inconvenient.
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Lokarin
03/03/18 10:16:43 PM
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So.... end school lunches? If you have to pay at school, just bring your own stuff you've already paid for
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WastelandCowboy
03/03/18 10:17:17 PM
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myghostisdead posted...
Lokarin posted...
Why does America do school lunches if you have to pay for them? That seems like a massive drain of resources. It'd be a lot easier to just let the kids go to the 7/11 and get food there


Not all schools make kids pay. The school I used to teach at has free breakfast and lunch for all students and they kept healthy snacks available at all times. They also offer free breakfast and lunch through the summer for anybody under 18.

We don't have 7/11's here and the closest convenience store is a couple miles away, which makes it inconvenient.

The kids might not be paying, but their parents probably are, through taxes.

Lokarin posted...
So.... end school lunches? If you have to pay at school, just bring your own stuff you've already paid for

What about all those children whose families don't have enough food at home for them to bring to school?
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myghostisdead
03/03/18 10:25:24 PM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
myghostisdead posted...
Lokarin posted...
Why does America do school lunches if you have to pay for them? That seems like a massive drain of resources. It'd be a lot easier to just let the kids go to the 7/11 and get food there


Not all schools make kids pay. The school I used to teach at has free breakfast and lunch for all students and they kept healthy snacks available at all times. They also offer free breakfast and lunch through the summer for anybody under 18.

We don't have 7/11's here and the closest convenience store is a couple miles away, which makes it inconvenient.

The kids might not be paying, but their parents probably are, through taxes.

Lokarin posted...
So.... end school lunches? If you have to pay at school, just bring your own stuff you've already paid for

What about all those children whose families don't have enough food at home for them to bring to school?


Understood, there is no such thing as a free lunch but at least the kids were not hungry. It is a very poor area. We had kids to show up at events just because they were hungry asking if we were serving food.
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Lokarin
03/03/18 10:32:07 PM
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myghostisdead posted...
What about all those children whose families don't have enough food at home for them to bring to school?


But you have to pay... if you've already paid at the store, why are you paying at school? If you can't afford the store, how can you afford school?
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Sahuagin
03/03/18 10:38:42 PM
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Lokarin posted...
That seems like a massive drain of resources.

why does it seem like a "drain of resources"? there's people that need food, so have a kitchen and sell them food.
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myghostisdead
03/03/18 10:39:30 PM
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Lokarin posted...
myghostisdead posted...
What about all those children whose families don't have enough food at home for them to bring to school?


But you have to pay... if you've already paid at the store, why are you paying at school? If you can't afford the store, how can you afford school?


Why is that post attributed to me?
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WastelandCowboy
03/03/18 10:40:32 PM
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Lokarin posted...
WastelandCowboy posted...
What about all those children whose families don't have enough food at home for them to bring to school?


But you have to pay... if you've already paid at the store, why are you paying at school? If you can't afford the store, how can you afford school?

What?

Think of it this way. Parents get paid for work and pay taxes. Whatever's leftover from taxes and their paycheck, they use to pay for bills and food. However, there's not enough food for their kids to take to school, as their budget only allows for food for breakfast and dinner. Lunches are paid on credit and the credit payment deducted from their next paycheck.
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Lokarin
03/03/18 10:43:45 PM
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myghostisdead posted...
Why is that post attributed to me?


Quoting is weird when click'n'dragging
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aDirtyShisno
03/03/18 10:46:58 PM
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Shit... all of this shows how bs it was for me growing up. When I went to school if you didnt have the money you were absolutely not allowed to get a lunch under any circumstances and there was no debt you could incur. The poverty level to get a free lunch was super low and unless your parents were lying claiming like three cousins and a nephew on their paperwork you couldnt qualify for a free lunch.
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Lokarin
03/03/18 10:53:54 PM
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I know I joke that America is a 3rd world county where kids can't afford to eat, and I don't want to diminish the poor who might need these services...

But when I think AVERAGE SCHOOL there are no poor people, because being poor isn't normal.
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jsb0714
03/03/18 11:05:51 PM
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Lokarin posted...
But when I think...

Actually, nothing you have posted suggests that at all.
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wwinterj25
03/03/18 11:09:29 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Why does America do school lunches if you have to pay for them?


They do the same over here. The only free school lunches are for those with parents who are unemployed. Schools are not charities.
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Lokarin
03/03/18 11:14:33 PM
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jsb0714 posted...
Lokarin posted...
But when I think...

Actually, nothing you have posted suggests that at all.


Don't be a negative nancy - school lunches aren't a thing here, let alone lines of credit for children.
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LinkPizza
03/03/18 11:26:29 PM
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I know when I was going through school, they were just starting to try the pin system. Well, when I transferred from Private school, at least. The pin system was when you'd bring the ones to school, put it in using your pin, and then just use it almost like debit card, but without the card. But I was never able to to do a school credit.

As for Off-campus, most schools I know when I was going had stopped that. And the only school that actually ever had a chance to go was high school. Not elementary of middle. But I think something had happened. Like an accident or something. So, we weren't allowed to leave unless you had special permission based on certain classes, so...
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Dikitain
03/03/18 11:28:44 PM
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Lokarin posted...
jsb0714 posted...
Lokarin posted...
But when I think...

Actually, nothing you have posted suggests that at all.


Don't be a negative nancy - school lunches aren't a thing here, let alone lines of credit for children.

So kids don't eat?

I mean when I was in school you either:

1) Brought your lunch
2) Bought your lunch
3) Got PB&J with skim milk

You weren't allowed to leave campus (unless you were a senior) so those were your only options.
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Lokarin
03/03/18 11:31:41 PM
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Dikitain posted...
You weren't allowed to leave campus (unless you were a senior) so those were your only options.


I think that might be the main difference - even elementary school students are free to leave and come back any time during the day.
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dragon504
03/03/18 11:33:10 PM
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For those with low income, there were reduced prices for school lunch and those that were even worse off got their lunch for free when I went.
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LinkPizza
03/03/18 11:34:29 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Dikitain posted...
You weren't allowed to leave campus (unless you were a senior) so those were your only options.


I think that might be the main difference - even elementary school students are free to leave and come back any time during the day.

Depending on where you live, that can be dangerous. Which is probably another main difference...
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Lokarin
03/03/18 11:40:01 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Lokarin posted...
Dikitain posted...
You weren't allowed to leave campus (unless you were a senior) so those were your only options.


I think that might be the main difference - even elementary school students are free to leave and come back any time during the day.

Depending on where you live, that can be dangerous. Which is probably another main difference...


The neighbourhood being dangerous is probably worse than any lunch issue... do people just accept this as normal?
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Dikitain
03/03/18 11:40:48 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Lokarin posted...
Dikitain posted...
You weren't allowed to leave campus (unless you were a senior) so those were your only options.


I think that might be the main difference - even elementary school students are free to leave and come back any time during the day.

Depending on where you live, that can be dangerous. Which is probably another main difference...

I don't know if it was dangerous in my area, but it certainly wasn't really an option. My town didn't have fast food until I was like 15, and the diner was a good hour long walk from either the elementary/middle school (they were right next to each other) or the high school. Plus, most kids lived a good 5 miles or so from the school so it was not like they were going to walk home.

The only reason kids would have to leave campus would be to do some drugs in the woods behind the school. Otherwise you are basically just walking though fields.
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LinkPizza
03/03/18 11:44:09 PM
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Dikitain posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Lokarin posted...
Dikitain posted...
You weren't allowed to leave campus (unless you were a senior) so those were your only options.


I think that might be the main difference - even elementary school students are free to leave and come back any time during the day.

Depending on where you live, that can be dangerous. Which is probably another main difference...

I don't know if it was dangerous in my area, but it certainly wasn't really an option. My town didn't have fast food until I was like 15, and the diner was a good hour long walk from either the elementary/middle school (they were right next to each other) or the high school. Plus, most kids lived a good 5 miles or so from the school so it was not like they were going to walk home.

The only reason kids would have to leave campus would be to do some drugs in the woods behind the school. Otherwise you are basically just walking though fields.

This, too. If not places around close by, leaving campus wouldn't do much for anyone in terms of food.
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Lokarin
03/03/18 11:49:16 PM
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Dikitain posted...
Plus, most kids lived a good 5 miles or so from the school so it was not like they were going to walk home.


This is a fair and legitimate reason. But this sounds like an outlier.
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jramirez23
03/04/18 12:18:06 AM
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Sad.
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LinkPizza
03/04/18 12:23:27 AM
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Lokarin posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Lokarin posted...
Dikitain posted...
You weren't allowed to leave campus (unless you were a senior) so those were your only options.


I think that might be the main difference - even elementary school students are free to leave and come back any time during the day.

Depending on where you live, that can be dangerous. Which is probably another main difference...


The neighbourhood being dangerous is probably worse than any lunch issue... do people just accept this as normal?

whole that can be an issue, it's not necessarily the neighborhood itself being dangerous. But letting a school full of kids just go wherever. Especially since the closest places to eat may not be that close. and the fact that a lot of them are really young. And there a lot of them most of the time(again depending on where you live).

Or just the fact that they might not have money to go get food from wherever... Or the time(again, depending)...
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bulbinking
03/04/18 1:17:45 AM
#33:


Lokarin posted...
Why does America do school lunches if you have to pay for them? That seems like a massive drain of resources. It'd be a lot easier to just let the kids go to the 7/11 and get food there


Corporations control almost all of our food including public school.

Its a billion dollar market getting your brand to supply food products for public schools, and ofc they will be making profit as everything a corporation does is done for a profit in public or private.
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WarGreymon77
03/04/18 2:15:09 AM
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I don't know anything about a lunch debt. I always took a lunchbox to school, but there are programs for free or reduced price school lunch for low income families.
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WarGreymon77
03/04/18 2:18:11 AM
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Lokarin posted...
I know I joke that America is a 3rd world county where kids can't afford to eat, and I don't want to diminish the poor who might need these services...

But when I think AVERAGE SCHOOL there are no poor people, because being poor isn't normal.

Being poor is normal in my county. Not country, but county.
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SinisterSlay
03/04/18 11:43:03 PM
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Honestly though the state should be paying for it. It's not expensive to feed kids basic meals but it drastically improves a child's ability to learn.
But teaching kids isn't really a priority in the States.
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Zeus
03/04/18 11:52:43 PM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
Because someone has to still pay for the food they're eating. Can't get it for free.


Speaking off, I'm still not sure why schools give free lunches based on income to kids already receiving SNAP. That's always seemed like double-dipping.

Lokarin posted...
I know I joke that America is a 3rd world county where kids can't afford to eat, and I don't want to diminish the poor who might need these services...


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Lokarin posted...
Dikitain posted...
You weren't allowed to leave campus (unless you were a senior) so those were your only options.


I think that might be the main difference - even elementary school students are free to leave and come back any time during the day.


America actually has laws against letting young kids just travel by themselves. Does Canada -- an even more liberal-progressive nation -- not have similar laws?

Lokarin posted...
Dikitain posted...
Plus, most kids lived a good 5 miles or so from the school so it was not like they were going to walk home.


This is a fair and legitimate reason. But this sounds like an outlier.


It's really not. Most students tend to live miles from their school, unless it's a heavily urbanized area or some shit. By the time you'd walk to your house for lunch, your lunch break will have already ended a while ago.
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Lokarin
03/05/18 12:32:51 AM
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Zeus posted...
Most students tend to live miles from their school,


That's weird ... there's barely a town at all here that doesn't have a school. It's rare for a bus to even fill with kids since so many can just walk
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LinkPizza
03/05/18 12:55:58 AM
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Lokarin posted...
Zeus posted...
Most students tend to live miles from their school,


That's weird ... there's barely a town at all here that doesn't have a school. It's rare for a bus to even fill with kids since so many can just walk

I guess that's the difference between there and here. Most of the buses I rode to and from school were filled. And the schools weren't near that many houses. Some, sure. But like 95% or more students didn't really live in walking distance. And wouldn't be able to make it home(or even halfway) before lunch was over...
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WarGreymon77
03/05/18 2:09:27 AM
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The high school here is miles and miles away in the countryside. It's really inconvenient. I guess it's to try to be a somewhat equal distance to the 3 main towns that attend there.
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03/05/18 4:23:18 AM
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In America you get protesters when you remove snack machines and replace unhealthy food menu items in elementary schools.

In my -public- high school we had to sit down and watch a 30-minute ad that sponsored the school every day. They don't have the money for free lunch.
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BeerOnTap
03/05/18 6:02:31 AM
#42:


myghostisdead posted...
Lokarin posted...
Why does America do school lunches if you have to pay for them? That seems like a massive drain of resources. It'd be a lot easier to just let the kids go to the 7/11 and get food there


Not all schools make kids pay. The school I used to teach at has free breakfast and lunch for all students and they kept healthy snacks available at all times. They also offer free breakfast and lunch through the summer for anybody under 18.

We don't have 7/11's here and the closest convenience store is a couple miles away, which makes it inconvenient.


This is called Provision 1 or Provision 2. It's a federal program. When over 80% of the school qualifies for "free" meals, they just go ahead and make it "free" for everyone.

(I put free in quotations because it's really not free. The real word I wish they used should be "subsidized", because somewhere along the line the taxpayers are paying for it by having their money stolen from them by government).
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BeerOnTap
03/05/18 6:06:04 AM
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bulbinking posted...
Lokarin posted...
Why does America do school lunches if you have to pay for them? That seems like a massive drain of resources. It'd be a lot easier to just let the kids go to the 7/11 and get food there


Corporations control almost all of our food including public school.

Its a billion dollar market getting your brand to supply food products for public schools, and ofc they will be making profit as everything a corporation does is done for a profit in public or private.


This seems more like an answer a butthurt communist would give, than the correct answer.
Goods and services should be provided by private companies. When government has a monopoly on things, just like any other monopoly, it is never good.
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bulbinking
03/05/18 11:01:21 AM
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BeerOnTap posted...
bulbinking posted...
Lokarin posted...
Why does America do school lunches if you have to pay for them? That seems like a massive drain of resources. It'd be a lot easier to just let the kids go to the 7/11 and get food there


Corporations control almost all of our food including public school.

Its a billion dollar market getting your brand to supply food products for public schools, and ofc they will be making profit as everything a corporation does is done for a profit in public or private.


This seems more like an answer a butthurt communist would give, than the correct answer.
Goods and services should be provided by private companies. When government has a monopoly on things, just like any other monopoly, it is never good.


They own a monopoly on our food.

http://www.cracked.com/article_24854_5-ridiculous-reasons-why-school-lunch-in-america-sucks.html

Only americans dont seem to care about it because we grew up on boxed meals and processed fast food like mass fed cattle, and everybody wonders why we are so fat (and it spreads to other countries that begin adopting a western diet)

I was lucky enough to have a mother who knew how to cook. I can literally survive anywhere there is edible plants and game to catch. That freedom is what has been taken from you. This is what urbanization does and the mass agrigulture practices used to sustain it.

Also, standardized state sponsored education is communistic if anything.

Its no wonder our kids are getting fed poison and taught just enough for teachers to get their paycheck from the government.
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