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N3xtG3nGam3r
02/26/18 5:20:04 AM
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..as well as making them illegal to own. If this passes, it will be a 5th degree Felony apparently. My home town being one of them. I live in the northern part of Columbus, Ohio, 20 minutes from the edge of the city.

Link:

http://myfox28columbus.com/news/local/ohio-lawmakers-introduce-bill-to-ban-assault-weapons

The current definition for Assault Weapon (by the standards of the people creating the legislation) is any gun that houses 10 or more bullets in a single magazine, and/or is capable of semi-automatic fire.

So, in other words, all guns will be illegal, besides like...bolt action rifles, Lol. Theyre all up in arms about Assault Rifles but are going to eliminate all guns with their ignorant blanket statement of what an Assault Weapon is,

I dont own any guns, but would definitely like to get a nice pistol to go shooting with, but other than that, I get the controversy behind all this stuff. However, its painfully evident that the common man doesnt understand a damn thing about guns if this is the bill theyre proposing.

These are the same people that think Assault Rifle = standard rifle, as well as the AR in AR-15 standing for Assault Rifle.

Shooting someone with a pistol doesnt make it an assault pistol lol. Hitting someone with a hammer doesnt make it an assault hammeruh oh, better ban those while were at it...

Its sad really...
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Sativa_Rose
02/26/18 5:41:24 AM
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Holy shit, this would be literal gun confiscation.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
02/26/18 6:02:08 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Holy shit, this would be literal gun confiscation.

And it will never happen. This will never hold up in court. They can ban sales but they can't do shit about guns that are already purchased. Imagine how many people would die if they were dumb enough to go try stealing people's guns.
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Patchwork
02/26/18 6:08:03 AM
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Insanity.
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hypnoticspector
02/26/18 6:10:16 AM
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this will never pass, ohio bro.
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NibeIungsnarf
02/26/18 6:11:21 AM
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Next they'll ban ice cream.
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008Zulu
02/26/18 6:22:15 AM
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N3xtG3nGam3r posted...
Its sad really...

Blame the mentally ill people who fell through America's fishing net of a health care system.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
02/26/18 6:30:42 AM
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N3xtG3nGam3r posted...
The current definition for Assault Weapon (by the standards of the people creating the legislation) is any gun that houses 10 or more bullets in a single magazine, and/or is capable of semi-automatic fire.

So, in other words, all guns will be illegal, besides like...bolt action rifles, Lol. Theyre all up in arms about Assault Rifles but are going to eliminate all guns with their ignorant blanket statement of what an Assault Weapon is,

You lied

Senate Bill 260 defines an assault weapon as, "a semi-automatic firearm capable of accepting a detachable magazine with the capacity to accept ten or more cartridges, and a semi-automatic firearm with a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept ten or more cartridges.""


That's literally not the same thing you said
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Coffeebeanz
02/26/18 6:51:36 AM
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I'm pretty sure a state can't determine what is or is not a felony.
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Sativa_Rose
02/26/18 6:56:14 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
I'm pretty sure a state can't determine what is or is not a felony.


Yes they can, under their own state laws. They can't change federal law. Most crimes aren't prosecuted under federal jurisdiction though, just stuff where it legally makes sense.

Like the Florida shooter is being prosecuted by Florida, not federal court. On the other hand, Martin Shkreli is in federal court because the federal government enforces the laws relating to wall street basically.
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voldothegr8
02/26/18 7:37:43 AM
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These bozos tried this some years back, it'll be thrown out just as quick.
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N3xtG3nGam3r
02/26/18 7:39:29 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
N3xtG3nGam3r posted...
The current definition for Assault Weapon (by the standards of the people creating the legislation) is any gun that houses 10 or more bullets in a single magazine, and/or is capable of semi-automatic fire.

So, in other words, all guns will be illegal, besides like...bolt action rifles, Lol. Theyre all up in arms about Assault Rifles but are going to eliminate all guns with their ignorant blanket statement of what an Assault Weapon is,

You lied

Senate Bill 260 defines an assault weapon as, "a semi-automatic firearm capable of accepting a detachable magazine with the capacity to accept ten or more cartridges, and a semi-automatic firearm with a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept ten or more cartridges.""


That's literally not the same thing you said


A semi automatic gun that takes 10 or more bullets in its clip....thats what I said, worded slightly different, and when I say worded slightly different, I dont mean some play on words thats deceivingI said the same thing, just with a word or two sequenced differently in the sentence structure. Unless youre nitpicking the part where I said and/or...which I will fix right now. Edit: stuck with it like that, cant edit it for whatever reason.

I posted the link, and you can take their definition straight out of the link anyways...I didnt lie about anything dude, not sure what youre talking about, but if the plan is to argue about a difference of one word or something, have at it, Ill be discussing the topic at hand while you talk to yourself,
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Youngster_Joey_
02/26/18 7:45:09 AM
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"We're not trying to take your guns away!"

*literally tries to take your guns away*
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N3xtG3nGam3r
02/26/18 7:52:30 AM
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hypnoticspector posted...
this will never pass, ohio bro.


Yeah, I hope not. Everyone should hope nothing like this passes in any state. All it takes is one state to set the precedent. And in this case, I feel If it does get passed, the amount of time its will take to undo it, the damage will have already been done, and other states may blindly try and pass shit like this just as quick.
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DirkDiggles
02/26/18 7:57:05 AM
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N3xtG3nGam3r posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
N3xtG3nGam3r posted...
The current definition for Assault Weapon (by the standards of the people creating the legislation) is any gun that houses 10 or more bullets in a single magazine, and/or is capable of semi-automatic fire.

So, in other words, all guns will be illegal, besides like...bolt action rifles, Lol. Theyre all up in arms about Assault Rifles but are going to eliminate all guns with their ignorant blanket statement of what an Assault Weapon is,

You lied

Senate Bill 260 defines an assault weapon as, "a semi-automatic firearm capable of accepting a detachable magazine with the capacity to accept ten or more cartridges, and a semi-automatic firearm with a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept ten or more cartridges.""


That's literally not the same thing you said


A semi automatic gun that takes 10 or more bullets in its clip....thats what I said, worded slightly different, and when I say worded slightly different, I dont mean some play on words thats deceivingI said the same thing, just with a word or two sequenced differently in the sentence structure. Unless youre nitpicking the part where I said and/or...which I will fix right now. Edit: stuck with it like that, cant edit it for whatever reason.

I posted the link, and you can take their definition straight out of the link anyways...I didnt lie about anything dude, not sure what youre talking about, but if the plan is to argue about a difference of one word or something, have at it, Ill be discussing the topic at hand while you talk to yourself,


Pay him no mind. He's one of those anti-gun nuts
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
02/26/18 7:58:25 AM
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oh ok i see we're talking to people who don't know that legislative wording is super specific for a reason
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Offworlder1
02/26/18 8:20:37 AM
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I hope this shit does not go through, Ohio does not need to be fucked in the ass like NY, Cali, or MD.
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silentwing26x
02/26/18 8:45:35 AM
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But I thought they're not trying to take guns away.
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itachi15243
02/26/18 8:57:20 AM
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Wouldn't it be easy to get around this by just getting a smaller clip, or something along those lines?
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darkjedilink
02/26/18 9:00:54 AM
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itachi15243 posted...
Wouldn't it be easy to get around this by just getting a smaller clip, or something along those lines?

No, because it's still 'capable.'
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Veggeta_EDGE
02/26/18 9:02:10 AM
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dey r tryin to take are gunz
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itachi15243
02/26/18 9:05:41 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
itachi15243 posted...
Wouldn't it be easy to get around this by just getting a smaller clip, or something along those lines?

No, because it's still 'capable.'


I'm sure there's some way to modify a gun to only except the smaller magazines.
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DifferentialEquation
02/26/18 9:10:59 AM
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This is what they left means when they say they just want "sensible gun control"
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darkjedilink
02/26/18 9:21:02 AM
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Something something 'common sense gun control,' something something 'not taking your guns,' something something 'slippery slope fallacy.'
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darkjedilink
02/26/18 9:21:28 AM
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itachi15243 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
itachi15243 posted...
Wouldn't it be easy to get around this by just getting a smaller clip, or something along those lines?

No, because it's still 'capable.'

I'm sure there's some way to modify a gun to only except the smaller magazines.

There isn't.
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CaptainCrunch
02/26/18 9:26:06 AM
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Good luck confiscating those guns, lel
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DifferentialEquation
02/26/18 9:56:58 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Something something 'common sense gun control,' something something 'not taking your guns,' something something 'slippery slope fallacy.'


No matter how many times they try this, they'll insist that gun owners are just being paranoid.
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darkjedilink
02/26/18 10:02:40 AM
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I'm surprised none of the resident CElibs who swear up and down that liberals don't want to take guns away from law-abiding citizens aren't in here crying fake news.
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Awesome
02/26/18 10:04:30 AM
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if it happens then civil war 2 happens sooner than i thought
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Questionmarktarius
02/26/18 10:28:45 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Basically people with high capacity magazines will just not be allowed to take their guns anywhere until they get a smaller magazine, like in Cali

Depends on the exact wording.
The very existence of eleven-round magazines that fit some-odd gun may well be enough to ban that some-odd gun.

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DifferentialEquation
02/26/18 10:32:08 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Basically people with high capacity magazines will just not be allowed to take their guns anywhere until they get a smaller magazine, like in Cali

Depends on the exact wording.
The very existence of eleven-round magazines that fit some-odd gun may well be enough to ban that some-odd gun.

https://ii.cheaperthandirt.com/fcgi-bin/iipsrv.fcgi?FIF=/images/cheaperthandirt/source/75571_1.tif&wid=1000&cvt=jpeg


Actually it sounds like a compatible 10 round magazine would classify it as an "assault weapon"
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Howl
02/26/18 10:39:55 AM
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"Common sense gun control" everyone.
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gmanthebest
02/26/18 10:40:44 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Something something 'common sense gun control,' something something 'not taking your guns,' something something 'slippery slope fallacy.'

This

CaptainCrunch posted...
Good luck confiscating those guns, lel

And this
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creativerealms
02/26/18 10:42:31 AM
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Somehow I think the republicans will be against State Rights
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Questionmarktarius
02/26/18 10:44:17 AM
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Soon:
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Howl
02/26/18 10:44:59 AM
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creativerealms posted...
Somehow I think the republicans will be against State Rights


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darkjedilink
02/26/18 10:45:29 AM
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creativerealms posted...
Somehow I think the republicans will be against State Rights

States don't have the right to violate the Constitution.
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Dark_Spiret
02/26/18 10:52:12 AM
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fucking traitors.
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DifferentialEquation
02/26/18 10:56:36 AM
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Just so we understand the left's point of view, the right, who wants civilians to be able to arm themselves, are fascists. And the left, who is pleading via emotional rhetoric for the government to confiscate our firearms and only allow police/military to have them, are the good guys.
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DifferentialEquation
02/26/18 11:47:15 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Basically people with high capacity magazines will just not be allowed to take their guns anywhere until they get a smaller magazine, like in Cali

Depends on the exact wording.
The very existence of eleven-round magazines that fit some-odd gun may well be enough to ban that some-odd gun.

https://ii.cheaperthandirt.com/fcgi-bin/iipsrv.fcgi?FIF=/images/cheaperthandirt/source/75571_1.tif&wid=1000&cvt=jpeg


And, if one doesn't exist, it would be easy enough for someone with an agenda to start creating them in order to have more and more firearms outlawed.
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BarneyBosco
02/26/18 11:51:18 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
Just so we understand the left's point of view, the right, who wants civilians to be able to arm themselves, are fascists. And the left, who is pleading via emotional rhetoric for the government to confiscate our firearms and only allow police/military to have them, are the good guys.

Well with the Florida school shooting the schools armed resource officer Scot Peterson hid outside while the kid went on his killing spree. And didn't another 3 officers arrive only to hang out for 4 minutes before moving? I don't think its a good idea to trust liberals with guns to defend anyone.
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darkjedilink
02/26/18 11:59:57 AM
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BarneyBosco posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Just so we understand the left's point of view, the right, who wants civilians to be able to arm themselves, are fascists. And the left, who is pleading via emotional rhetoric for the government to confiscate our firearms and only allow police/military to have them, are the good guys.

Well with the Florida school shooting the schools armed resource officer Scot Peterson hid outside while the kid went on his killing spree. And didn't another 3 officers arrive only to hang out for 4 minutes before moving? I don't think its a good idea to trust liberals with guns to defend anyone.

'but you don't NEED guns for self defense! the police will save you!'
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MorbidFaithless
02/26/18 12:12:46 PM
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Finally a step in the right direction.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
02/26/18 12:16:18 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
but you don't NEED guns for self defense! the police will save you!'

> lives 45 minutes away from state police bArracks
Yeah if someone is trying to break into my house I'm not even wasting my time calling until I kill the dude (if they managed to get inside)
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silentwing26x
02/26/18 12:17:31 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
I'm surprised none of the resident CElibs who swear up and down that liberals don't want to take guns away from law-abiding citizens aren't in here crying fake news.


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Questionmarktarius
02/26/18 12:27:40 PM
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Offworlder1
02/26/18 12:31:00 PM
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@Trigg3rH4ppy

You call the police when the threat is neutralized, not killed, you do not want to go to jail for wording it wrong and sounding like a psycho. Dont give the left any ammo to use against you cause we all know they would try painting you as some crazy gun owner.
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DifferentialEquation
02/26/18 12:52:27 PM
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Will the left finally admit that they want gun confiscation? Do they understand why this bill would just be the first step of many if they're going to turn someone into a felon for owning a .22 semi-auto pistol with a 10 round magazine, but not a Binelli M4 or a Winchester .357 lever action?
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darkjedilink
02/26/18 12:53:59 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Simple workaround:
https://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Revolver-Gun-handgun-Multiple-Cylinder.jpg

Nope. By the letter of the law, that's a deadly, military-style assault weapon.
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