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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
02/26/18 12:58:18 PM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
I'm pretty sure a state can't determine what is or is not a felony.


Lol what?

Anyways, utterly disgusting. As a non gun owner it makes me want to go buy a gun.
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Questionmarktarius
02/26/18 1:01:45 PM
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I wonder what the viability would be of opening up a firearm storage facilities in Indiana, Kentucky, and West Virginia...
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s0nicfan
02/26/18 1:01:54 PM
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Questionmarktarius
02/26/18 1:04:56 PM
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OmegaShinkai
02/26/18 1:05:07 PM
#55:


YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
a semi-automatic firearm capable of accepting a detachable magazine with the capacity to accept ten or more cartridges

I had a shitty little .22LR rifle when I was younger and had family in West Virginia

According to this that is now an assault weapon
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Deadpool_18
02/26/18 1:05:33 PM
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Good. Im glad.
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Deadpool_18
02/26/18 1:06:05 PM
#57:


OmegaShinkai posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
a semi-automatic firearm capable of accepting a detachable magazine with the capacity to accept ten or more cartridges

I had a shitty little .22LR rifle when I was younger and had family in West Virginia

According to this that is now an assault weapon


Ah
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darkjedilink
02/26/18 1:30:33 PM
#58:


OmegaShinkai posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
a semi-automatic firearm capable of accepting a detachable magazine with the capacity to accept ten or more cartridges

I had a shitty little .22LR rifle when I was younger and had family in West Virginia

According to this that is now an assault weapon

That's what happens when you use a made-up term to scare constituents into giving up their fundamental rights.

Slippery slope fallacy, indeed.
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darkjedilink
02/26/18 2:03:51 PM
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Nothing, libs?
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gmanthebest
02/26/18 2:12:57 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Nothing, libs?

Of course not.
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Offworlder1
02/26/18 2:16:35 PM
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They need time in their safe space to come up with a reply.
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hockeybub89
02/26/18 2:27:32 PM
#62:


silentwing26x posted...
darkjedilink posted...
I'm surprised none of the resident CElibs who swear up and down that liberals don't want to take guns away from law-abiding citizens aren't in here crying fake news.


@TheVipaGTS
@hockeybub89

I don't want to take guns away. I don't speak for Columbus, Ohio and their feelings on "assault" weapons.
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gmanthebest
02/26/18 2:30:38 PM
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Wonder how many criminals would turn in their guns. They're known to follow the law, yeah?
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Swampthing1138
02/26/18 2:35:18 PM
#64:


Good. You can't be trusted with them.
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darkjedilink
02/26/18 2:38:14 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
darkjedilink posted...
I'm surprised none of the resident CElibs who swear up and down that liberals don't want to take guns away from law-abiding citizens aren't in here crying fake news.


@TheVipaGTS
@hockeybub89

I don't want to take guns away. I don't speak for Columbus, Ohio and their feelings on "assault" weapons.

Have you not repeatedly stated 'nobody wants to take your guns?'
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hockeybub89
02/26/18 2:44:50 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
darkjedilink posted...
I'm surprised none of the resident CElibs who swear up and down that liberals don't want to take guns away from law-abiding citizens aren't in here crying fake news.


@TheVipaGTS
@hockeybub89

I don't want to take guns away. I don't speak for Columbus, Ohio and their feelings on "assault" weapons.

Have you not repeatedly stated 'nobody wants to take your guns?'

No?

Some people want to. I don't think they will be successful on any real scale though
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darkjedilink
02/26/18 4:38:47 PM
#67:


gmanthebest posted...
Wonder how many criminals would turn in their guns. They're known to follow the law, yeah?

Asking them to would be racist, I'm sure.
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N3xtG3nGam3r
02/26/18 8:21:19 PM
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Look, my thing with this, is that if by some disgusting alt-left miracle, guns throughout the states end up being banned, the CIA will just start running guns into the country like they do with drugs.

Then, youll have people going to the black market for firearms, and since the criminal organizations will have complete control over the gun market, they could literally NOT sell a single semi-auto weapon at all, and just force anyone trying to obtain a firearm to get a fully automatic. Considering these guns wouldnt be regulated in anyway shape or form by laws, chances are the guns would most likely be fully automatic that people would have access to, especially if they are being brought in from third world militarized countries.

And people trying to buy a gun arent going to say no just because its automatic. Auto/semi-auto, whats it matter? Theyre all felonies now.

This is of course a hypothetical, but if people cant see the possible problems something like this can cause (whether its this scenario or one way worse, or not as baditd still be pretty bad) then they have no business speaking on the issue, because those exact people who have no business speaking on the issue, are the vocal minority, who end up helping mainstream media push this bullshit anti-gun agenda.

Of course I think there need to be more restrictions, and mental health issues have contributed to mass shootings as far back as 30+ years ago, and the families didnt go after the NRAthey went after big pharma who had people losing their minds due to the combinations of drugs and effects of said drugs, and the effects it had on these past shooters...and guess what? Those families WON.

MSM is part of the corrupt capitalist machine that sides with big pharma, and keeps things like that under lock and key, and out of the headlines.

Meanwhile, we fight amongst ourselves over whether its guns, or the people using the guns and their state of mind, all the while the establishment doesnt have to lift a finger to solve the real problem, or force the real societal culprits to own up for their misgivings.
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N3xtG3nGam3r
02/26/18 8:37:39 PM
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Also, people saying ohh, no way will people give up their guns...they cant take peoples guns away...

Yeah, your weapons are registered (depending how you bought them I guess), and all they have to do is skim through the registry database and mail out a letter to all those with the guns, and say It is on record that you own X,Y, and Zyou have until (insert arbitrary date) to turn in your registered firearms. If you do not comply or do not prove you no longer own these guns, you will be charged with possessing X,Y, and Z, and charged with (insert new BS law youre breaking) which is a 5th degree Felony, and a warrant will be issued for your arrest.

Thats literally it. And on top of letters theyd have public service announcements on the TV, Radio, all across social media, so there wouldnt be any I missed the message leeway.

I was discussing this exact problem on reddit yesterday, and two people claimed that this happened (not sure what city/statepossibly NY) in their state, and they were forced to take their guns in, and forfeit them. They did not receive any compensation, no tax write off, no nothing. If youve got thousands of dollars invested into this hobby, youll be shit out of luck, unless the city or state this happens in decides to not be complete pieces of shit about it (if theyre pieces of shit and pass the law that is).

Just food for thought.
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Howl
02/26/18 8:43:12 PM
#70:


N3xtG3nGam3r posted...
Also, people saying ohh, no way will people give up their guns...they cant take peoples guns away...

Yeah, your weapons are registered (depending how you bought them I guess), and all they have to do is skim through the registry database and mail out a letter to all those with the guns, and say It is on record that you own X,Y, and Zyou have until (insert arbitrary date) to turn in your registered firearms. If you do not comply or do not prove you no longer own these guns, you will be charged with possessing X,Y, and Z, and charged with (insert new BS law youre breaking) which is a 5th degree Felony, and a warrant will be issued for your arrest.

Thats literally it. And on top of letters theyd have public service announcements on the TV, Radio, all across social media, so there wouldnt be any I missed the message leeway.

I was discussing this exact problem on reddit yesterday, and two people claimed that this happened (not sure what city/statepossibly NY) in their state, and they were forced to take their guns in, and forfeit them. They did not receive any compensation, no tax write off, no nothing. If youve got thousands of dollars invested into this hobby, youll be shit out of luck, unless the city or state this happens in decides to not be complete pieces of shit about it (if theyre pieces of shit and pass the law that is).

Just food for thought.


People will not turn in their guns willingly. It's a joke to believe millions of people could be prosecuted for that.
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Sativa_Rose
02/26/18 10:06:51 PM
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NY State confiscated some guns a while back IIRC. You had to turn in the guns by a specific date or give the police the address of where the guns would be stored out of state. If you did not, then you were a criminal.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
02/26/18 10:13:22 PM
#72:


Offworlder1 posted...
@Trigg3rH4ppy

You call the police when the threat is neutralized, not killed, you do not want to go to jail for wording it wrong and sounding like a psycho. Dont give the left any ammo to use against you cause we all know they would try painting you as some crazy gun owner.

I'm a registered democrat. I'm not a rootin tootin pro gun guy but I have a wife and a daughter and a bullpup shotgun to defend them with. Realistically if someone broke in to rob me I wouldn't engage them unless they try to come upstairs. You have to round a corner to get up my staircase so it's the perfect place to defend the bedrooms.

My shit can be replaced and I don't want to kill someone unless they're a threat. I could never forgive myself if something happened to my kid or her mom though, because I was worried about hurting the person that hurt them. Chances are if they're willing to break into a house that obviously has people home then they're willing to cause harm.
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FLUFFYGERM
02/26/18 10:17:53 PM
#73:


hockeybub89 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
darkjedilink posted...
I'm surprised none of the resident CElibs who swear up and down that liberals don't want to take guns away from law-abiding citizens aren't in here crying fake news.


@TheVipaGTS
@hockeybub89

I don't want to take guns away. I don't speak for Columbus, Ohio and their feelings on "assault" weapons.

Have you not repeatedly stated 'nobody wants to take your guns?'

No?

Some people want to. I don't think they will be successful on any real scale though


yes you have lmfao

even though you sugarcoat it you've historically made it pretty obvious that's what you want
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TheVipaGTS
02/26/18 10:22:24 PM
#74:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
darkjedilink posted...
I'm surprised none of the resident CElibs who swear up and down that liberals don't want to take guns away from law-abiding citizens aren't in here crying fake news.


@TheVipaGTS
@hockeybub89

I don't want to take guns away. I don't speak for Columbus, Ohio and their feelings on "assault" weapons.

Have you not repeatedly stated 'nobody wants to take your guns?'

No?

Some people want to. I don't think they will be successful on any real scale though


yes you have lmfao

even though you sugarcoat it you've historically made it pretty obvious that's what you want

i fully admit its what i'd want but i also fully admit its impossible and not worth discussing in today's climate. i don't support banning or confiscating guns.
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FLUFFYGERM
02/26/18 10:24:42 PM
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you're not fooling anyone, Vipa. we've all seen your posts on the subject. you definitely supported moves like these in the past.
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TheVipaGTS
02/26/18 10:25:27 PM
#76:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
you're not fooling anyone, Vipa. we've all seen your posts on the subject. you definitely supported moves like these in the past.

no i haven't but whatever you say.
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OpheliaAdenade
02/26/18 10:28:08 PM
#77:


Remember kids, guns don't kill people, the person shooting the gun does. :v And if you dare try to question it there is a congressional gag order in place.

But also remember, drugs DO kill people, not the person shooting them. Thus we should ban them because they're dangerous.
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hockeybub89
02/27/18 12:31:41 AM
#78:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
darkjedilink posted...
I'm surprised none of the resident CElibs who swear up and down that liberals don't want to take guns away from law-abiding citizens aren't in here crying fake news.


@TheVipaGTS
@hockeybub89

I don't want to take guns away. I don't speak for Columbus, Ohio and their feelings on "assault" weapons.

Have you not repeatedly stated 'nobody wants to take your guns?'

No?

Some people want to. I don't think they will be successful on any real scale though


yes you have lmfao

even though you sugarcoat it you've historically made it pretty obvious that's what you want

Nah. I plan on buying some guns. I have never wanted guns banned, but I also wouldn't care if they were, on the nonexistent chance it ever happens. Despite things I have said, I have a teensy bit of faith in the American people that we would remain a civilized nation.

It's weird how McCarthyist you are about differing opinions.
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FrisbeeDude
02/27/18 12:35:39 AM
#79:


OpheliaAdenade posted...
Remember kids, guns don't kill people, the person shooting the gun does. :v And if you dare try to question it there is a congressional gag order in place.

But also remember, drugs DO kill people, not the person shooting them. Thus we should ban them because they're dangerous.

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N3xtG3nGam3r
02/27/18 12:54:28 AM
#80:


Howl posted...
N3xtG3nGam3r posted...
Also, people saying ohh, no way will people give up their guns...they cant take peoples guns away...

Yeah, your weapons are registered (depending how you bought them I guess), and all they have to do is skim through the registry database and mail out a letter to all those with the guns, and say It is on record that you own X,Y, and Zyou have until (insert arbitrary date) to turn in your registered firearms. If you do not comply or do not prove you no longer own these guns, you will be charged with possessing X,Y, and Z, and charged with (insert new BS law youre breaking) which is a 5th degree Felony, and a warrant will be issued for your arrest.

Thats literally it. And on top of letters theyd have public service announcements on the TV, Radio, all across social media, so there wouldnt be any I missed the message leeway.

I was discussing this exact problem on reddit yesterday, and two people claimed that this happened (not sure what city/statepossibly NY) in their state, and they were forced to take their guns in, and forfeit them. They did not receive any compensation, no tax write off, no nothing. If youve got thousands of dollars invested into this hobby, youll be shit out of luck, unless the city or state this happens in decides to not be complete pieces of shit about it (if theyre pieces of shit and pass the law that is).

Just food for thought.


People will not turn in their guns willingly. It's a joke to believe millions of people could be prosecuted for that.


Im tellin you man, its already happened. I cant find the link, and after 30 minutes going back through my Reddit history, I cant find the two guys talking about turning their guns in.

What I did find from a google search was this though, which is pretty much the same thing:

https://www.google.com/amp/boston.cbslocal.com/2018/02/02/bump-stock-massachusetts-ban/amp/

Bump stocks banned, and requested to have them turned in. One guy apparently spent $250 on hiswhich is on the lower end of the spectrum cost wise for a pistol.

The punishment is pretty damn steep too, this is taken from the article:

...All licensed gun owners in Massachusetts got letters explaining bump stocks would have to be surrendered by February 1. The new law carries stiff penalties, from 18 months to life behind bars for those found guilty...

Now, youre telling me if you got a letter in the mail and instead of bump-stocks, it was semi-auto firearms, you wouldnt turn it in? Especially if they had names and addresses of all those who have these weapons? Im pretty sure like 99% of people would, 0.5% wouldnt, and take it to court to fight the constitutionality of the law, and the remaining .05% wouldnt do a damn thing and just be lazy/say fuck that.

Id even say that the police could probably get a warrant to search your house if you were on the list and did not comply (for firearms, not the bump-stocks). Nowadays Im sure most judges would grant the warrant.

Anyways, Im not saying this or bringing up this to argue with you personally, Im just bringing this shit up because such is the world we live in where we always say that aint gonna happen..no fucking way.. and then it happens.
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pres_madagascar
02/27/18 1:00:06 AM
#81:


Coffeebeanz posted...
I'm pretty sure a state can't determine what is or is not a felony.


Marijuana
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MaverickXeo
02/27/18 1:14:06 AM
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I'd be more upset that I paid for something that gets taken away. If they offered reimbursement, thats a different story.

Otherwise, taking something you legally paid for is theft.

pres_madagascar posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
I'm pretty sure a state can't determine what is or is not a felony.


Marijuana


States did not change pot 'felonies...' They only changed what is enforced. It is still a federal concern, but the states have agreed not to press charges.
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