Current Events > ALERT: Mueller indicts 16 Russians

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s0nicfan posted...

Shuto-uke posted...

Polycosm posted...

How will Fox cover this story today?
A. conspicuous silence
B. move goalposts
C. "...but do you even care?"
D. "We'll cover this on Monday" / cut to gruesome car crash footage

E: other: talk about some Mexicans that their viewers should be raging about

F:
Funbazooka posted...

DOJ: There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.

Why did you repeat C?

KazumaKiryu posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

KazumaKiryu posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

also im very surprised KK is promoting this

Don't call me that and I promote the truth in everything I do.

but you realize this doesn't make Trump look good, right?

Yeah seriously. Maybe he thought he was on his alt.

Derp. I have no alt. I post breaking news stories when I can. This is big news.

The only way you wouldn't have an alt is if your main was banned

Also remember when you said the memo was going to be huge and totally change everything and people were going to go to jail because of it? Lmfao
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Mueller isnt finished yet goons
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Shuto-uke posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Shuto-uke posted...

Polycosm posted...

How will Fox cover this story today?
A. conspicuous silence
B. move goalposts
C. "...but do you even care?"
D. "We'll cover this on Monday" / cut to gruesome car crash footage

E: other: talk about some Mexicans that their viewers should be raging about

F:
Funbazooka posted...

DOJ: There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.

Why did you repeat C?

lol. That isn't a repeat of C.
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CADE FOSTER posted...

Mueller isnt finished yet goons

That's what you've been saying for a year.
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Rosenstein said that this specific indictment didn't have to do with any American citizens. He didn't up and say that there was nothing there entirely, only as it pertained to this specific indictment.
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darkjedilink posted...

CADE FOSTER posted...

Mueller isnt finished yet goons

That's what you've been saying for a year.

Because you guys have been saying it should be finished by now since about a month into it, proving your complete and utter ignorance on the history of Special counsels
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darkjedilink posted...

CADE FOSTER posted...

Mueller isnt finished yet goons

That's what you've been saying for a year.

And he's right? The investigation isn't done.
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shanefu22 posted...

Can't get Trump? Might as well arrest some foreigners!

BillyKidd posted...

so, 5 indicted for identity theft, and 11 for shitposting. Wow, he sure got them now.

Imagine being this partisan...
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

CADE FOSTER posted...

Mueller isnt finished yet goons

That's what you've been saying for a year.

Because you guys have been saying it should be finished by now since about a month into it, proving your complete and utter ignorance on the history of Special counsels

So given the history of special councils, when we're in year 3 of Trump's presidency and there's still no charges, are we then allowed to start laughing openly?
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

CADE FOSTER posted...

Mueller isnt finished yet goons

That's what you've been saying for a year.

Because you guys have been saying it should be finished by now since about a month into it, proving your complete and utter ignorance on the history of Special counsels

took 2 years to get Nixon
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darkjedilink posted...

CADE FOSTER posted...

Mueller isnt finished yet goons

That's what you've been saying for a year.

It isnt. Things will continue, more people will be found to have done bad stuff, Trump remains safe, repeat until its actually over. In the end, Trump will be fine, but who knows about anyone else and that is where the entertainment is.
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s0nicfan posted...

So given the history of special councils, when we're in year 3 of Trump's presidency and there's still no charges, are we then allowed to start laughing openly?

Except you're already doing that, so you can't play that card lmao
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darkjedilink posted...

Funbazooka posted...

DOJ: There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.

Shhhhhhh! CElibs will either die of stroke or heart attack.

Seriously - someone in this thread wants Trump executed for treason over this.

I didn't address anything I may or may not want. I simply asked about whether or not it could happen. Do you twist the words of other people a lot or is this just an isolated instance?
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

So given the history of special councils, when we're in year 3 of Trump's presidency and there's still no charges, are we then allowed to start laughing openly?

Except you're already doing that, so you can't play that card lmao

So? In 3 years when I'm still doing that, will you stop complaining and maybe accept it's valid? I'm less concerned about when I can start saying it and more concerned when YOU will start believing it.
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s0nicfan posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

So given the history of special councils, when we're in year 3 of Trump's presidency and there's still no charges, are we then allowed to start laughing openly?

Except you're already doing that, so you can't play that card lmao

So? In 3 years when I'm still doing that, will you stop complaining and maybe accept it's valid? I'm less concerned about when I can start saying it and more concerned when YOU will start believing it.

If they find there was collision, will you believe it?
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Funbazooka posted...

DOJ: There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.

Shhhhhhh! CElibs will either die of stroke or heart attack.

Seriously - someone in this thread wants Trump executed for treason over this.

I didn't address anything I may or may not want. I simply asked about whether or not it could happen. Do you twist the words of other people a lot or is this just an isolated instance?

I mean you're responding to a guy who literally believes that Liberals are responsible for his "wife" leaving him.
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LordRazziel posted...

s0nicfan posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

So given the history of special councils, when we're in year 3 of Trump's presidency and there's still no charges, are we then allowed to start laughing openly?

Except you're already doing that, so you can't play that card lmao

So? In 3 years when I'm still doing that, will you stop complaining and maybe accept it's valid? I'm less concerned about when I can start saying it and more concerned when YOU will start believing it.

If they find there was collision, will you believe it?

Of course, because they'll have all the evidence to prove it. I don't know if you believe ME when I say I'll believe it, but I would.
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s0nicfan posted...

LordRazziel posted...

s0nicfan posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

So given the history of special councils, when we're in year 3 of Trump's presidency and there's still no charges, are we then allowed to start laughing openly?

Except you're already doing that, so you can't play that card lmao

So? In 3 years when I'm still doing that, will you stop complaining and maybe accept it's valid? I'm less concerned about when I can start saying it and more concerned when YOU will start believing it.

If they find there was collision, will you believe it?

Of course, because they'll have all the evidence to prove it. I don't know if you believe ME when I say I'll believe it, but I would.

Not certain, it does seem you let partisan politics dictate how you interpret information.
Not just gonna claim to know how you would react.
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darkjedilink posted...

Seriously - someone in this thread wants Trump executed for treason over this.

18 U.S. Code 2381 - Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103322, title XXXIII, 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
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lol know we know why liberal savior Bernard Sanders voted against them sanctions
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LordRazziel posted...

s0nicfan posted...

LordRazziel posted...

s0nicfan posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

So given the history of special councils, when we're in year 3 of Trump's presidency and there's still no charges, are we then allowed to start laughing openly?

Except you're already doing that, so you can't play that card lmao

So? In 3 years when I'm still doing that, will you stop complaining and maybe accept it's valid? I'm less concerned about when I can start saying it and more concerned when YOU will start believing it.

If they find there was collision, will you believe it?

Of course, because they'll have all the evidence to prove it. I don't know if you believe ME when I say I'll believe it, but I would.

Not certain, it does seem you let partisan politics dictate how you interpret information.
Not just gonna claim to know how you would react.

Usually the only reason I jump in on interpreting information is because partisan politics have ALREADY biased it and I'm just tipping the scales. For example: The TC indicated that the russian people indicted:

during which they boosted the candidacy of Donald Trump.

What the TC failed to mention (see post https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76325730#19) is that the group being indicted bought facebook ads, MOST of which were either pro-hillary or pro-BLM, and only a couple that supported Trump, because their goal was to divide the country.

My stance has been pretty consistently "Trump does enough dumb shit on his own, so stop making up more shit because it weakens your entire platform." I'd rather people judge him on his actual actions and not spinning reality to turn him into Hitler.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

CADE FOSTER posted...

Mueller isnt finished yet goons

That's what you've been saying for a year.

Because you guys have been saying it should be finished by now since about a month into it, proving your complete and utter ignorance on the history of Special counsels

No, YOU guys have been saying 'any day now' since before inauguration.

I've been saying 'where's the evidence Trump was involved?' This indictment suggests there still is none, yet you got people in this thread hoping for Trump's death as a result.
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s0nicfan posted...

MOST of which were either pro-hillary or pro-BLM, and only a couple that supported Trump

Indictment doesn't give qualifiers like most or couple, stop lying.

s0nicfan posted...

My stance has been pretty consistently "Trump does enough dumb shit on his own, so stop making up more shit because it weakens your entire platform."

Bullshit. Your entire stance to defend Trump at every moment and consistently attack "leftist/liberals/sjws/etc" over some victim complex you have where you view any criticism from them, legit or not, as complete bullshit that you need to attack.
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SlashmanSG posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Seriously - someone in this thread wants Trump executed for treason over this.

18 U.S. Code 2381 - Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103322, title XXXIII, 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

What part of 'no American was involved' don't you understand?
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The goal of supporting Hillary seems to be upsetting the alt-right anti-muslim sentiment.
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darkjedilink posted...

No, YOU guys have been saying 'any day now' since before inauguration.

I've been saying 'where's the evidence Trump was involved?' This indictment suggests there still is none, yet you got people in this thread hoping for Trump's death as a result.

Let the investigation play out. I'll make my conclusion after the special prosecutor is finished, as well as after I get to see all the documents as best as possible. Oh, and people hoping for Trumps death are stupid.

If you think he's innocent then you have nothing to worry about
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Indictment doesn't give qualifiers like most or couple, stop lying.

Indictments don't, but Facebook has already revealed all the ads purchased BY the agency being indicted. I linked to them earlier in the topic. You can decide exactly what you think "most" is in terms of percentage, but it's very clearly over 50%. Maybe try reading the topic first before saying shit like this.

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Bullshit. Your entire stance to defend Trump at every moment and consistently attack "leftist/liberals/sjws/etc" over some victim complex you have where you view any criticism from them, legit or not, as complete bullshit that you need to attack.

Funny, because in this topic I'm providing sourced information to back up my claims, and you're attacking my character based on whatever label you've decided best allows you to ignore what I'm saying, so between the two of us and how we're actually behaving, I'm inclined to think maybe you're just not entirely honest.
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Bio1590 posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Funbazooka posted...

DOJ: There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.

Shhhhhhh! CElibs will either die of stroke or heart attack.

Seriously - someone in this thread wants Trump executed for treason over this.

I didn't address anything I may or may not want. I simply asked about whether or not it could happen. Do you twist the words of other people a lot or is this just an isolated instance?

I mean you're responding to a guy who literally believes that Liberals are responsible for his "wife" leaving him.

I don't really make an effort to remember who is who in the list of trump CEpporters >_>
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

but according to Agent Orange there was no interference

According to your Messiah Obama, Romney was a buffoon when said we should worry about Russia.
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freedom of speech and how is it identity theft if you use a pseudonym name?

tommybel89 posted...

If FB ads are enough to swing your vote, you're a moron.

This is 100% true.

But a lot of Americans...are morons. I would not be shocked at all if some stupid Facebook ads made several million morons vote one way versus the other.
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Sparksfanboy posted...

When will the backpedaling, goalpoast moving, lying antics of the alt-right end? It's been a continual conga line of scapegoating since this whole thing started.

"There was no collusion with the Russian."
"Okay, so one of our aides colluded with the Russians, no one else did."
"But Hillary."
"Okay, so some of the inner circle that we dumped for absolutely seperate reasons months ago was colluding with the Russians. We weren't."
"Okay, so maybe there is a small chance that several others were colluding with the Russians, but there is absolutely no proof that Trump or his family was involved."
"But Hillary's emails."
"It's not illegal to collude with the Russians."
"Okay so people are getting arrested for colluding with the Russians. Trump won't be though."
"But Obama."
...

No American has been arrested for colluding with the Russians.
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CADE FOSTER posted...

tommybel89 posted...

If FB ads are enough to swing your vote, you're a moron.

its america i mean our schools are shit

Stop deflecting to the schools. The education system has issues, but people acting stupid is on the people. A lot of students are more interested in Instagram, Twitter and their online persona instead of cracking open a god damn book or joining a sports or academic team. This doesnt even touch upon the fact that parenting and close friends also play a significant role in students lives.
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darkjedilink posted...

No American has been arrested for colluding with the Russians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg

DifferentialEquation posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

but according to Agent Orange there was no interference

According to your Messiah Obama, Romney was a buffoon when said we should worry about Russia.

i dont recall the exact context in which that was said or what it was about, specifically. but if Obama somehow implied that we shouldn't do anything about Russia ever, then I'd say he was wrong.
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Funny how all these "patriotic" Americans are fine with clear interference in our nations elections conducted by organizations directly funded by a foreign government. Especially when they cite "muhfreezepeach" when said foreign government goes out of their way to censor information and dissension in their own country.

Really makes you think
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

but according to Agent Orange there was no interference

According to your Messiah Obama, Romney was a buffoon when said we should worry about Russia.

i dont recall the exact context in which that was said or what it was about, specifically. but if Obama somehow implied that we shouldn't do anything about Russia ever, then I'd say he was wrong.

It's a reference to the 2012 election debate when Romney called Russia our greatest geo-political threat facing America and Obama told him the Cold War was over. It's used by Trump toadies to point out hypocrisy while completely ignoring events that had happened since the time Obama made that comment, such as the annexation of Crimea in 2014.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

darkjedilink posted...

No American has been arrested for colluding with the Russians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg

Yeah, let's pretend I wasn't speaking in the context of Trump's election.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

but according to Agent Orange there was no interference

According to your Messiah Obama, Romney was a buffoon when said we should worry about Russia.

i dont recall the exact context in which that was said or what it was about, specifically. but if Obama somehow implied that we shouldn't do anything about Russia ever, then I'd say he was wrong.

It's a reference to the 2012 election debate when Romney called Russia our greatest geo-political threat facing America and Obama told him the Cold War was over. It's used by Trump toadies to point out hypocrisy while completely ignoring events that had happened since the time Obama made that comment, such as the annexation of Crimea in 2014.

Odd because in 2014 Obama thinks that Russia going after Crimea is evidence of their overall weakness.

With respect to Mr. Romneys assertion that Russia is our number one geopolitical foe, the truth of the matter is that America has got a whole lot of challenges. Russia is a regional power that is threatening some of its immediate neighbors not out of strength but out of weakness. Ukraine has been a country, [over] which Russia had enormous influence for decades, since the breakup of the Soviet Union. We have considerable influence on our neighbors; we generally dont need to invade them in order to have a strong cooperative relationship with them. The fact that Russia felt compelled to go in militarily and lay bare these violations of international law indicates [that they have] less influence, not more.

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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

but according to Agent Orange there was no interference

According to your Messiah Obama, Romney was a buffoon when said we should worry about Russia.

i dont recall the exact context in which that was said or what it was about, specifically. but if Obama somehow implied that we shouldn't do anything about Russia ever, then I'd say he was wrong.

It's a reference to the 2012 election debate when Romney called Russia our greatest geo-political threat facing America and Obama told him the Cold War was over. It's used by Trump toadies to point out hypocrisy while completely ignoring events that had happened since the time Obama made that comment, such as the annexation of Crimea in 2014.

No, Crimea kinda proves Romney was right.
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darkjedilink posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

but according to Agent Orange there was no interference

According to your Messiah Obama, Romney was a buffoon when said we should worry about Russia.

i dont recall the exact context in which that was said or what it was about, specifically. but if Obama somehow implied that we shouldn't do anything about Russia ever, then I'd say he was wrong.

It's a reference to the 2012 election debate when Romney called Russia our greatest geo-political threat facing America and Obama told him the Cold War was over. It's used by Trump toadies to point out hypocrisy while completely ignoring events that had happened since the time Obama made that comment, such as the annexation of Crimea in 2014.

No, Crimea kinda proves Romney was right.

I never said that he wasn't. I was instead saying that Obama making that comment in 2012 leaves out the context of Russian action since 2012 and is used as a way to discredit him.

But yes, Obama was wrong and Romney was correct there.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

but according to Agent Orange there was no interference

According to your Messiah Obama, Romney was a buffoon when said we should worry about Russia.

i dont recall the exact context in which that was said or what it was about, specifically. but if Obama somehow implied that we shouldn't do anything about Russia ever, then I'd say he was wrong.

It's a reference to the 2012 election debate when Romney called Russia our greatest geo-political threat facing America and Obama told him the Cold War was over. It's used by Trump toadies to point out hypocrisy while completely ignoring events that had happened since the time Obama made that comment, such as the annexation of Crimea in 2014.

No, Crimea kinda proves Romney was right.

I never said that he wasn't. I was instead saying that Obama making that comment in 2012 leaves out the context of Russian action since 2012 and is used as a way to discredit him.

But yes, Obama was wrong and Romney was correct there.

And when Obama doubled down in 2014 by saying that Russia invading Crimea means that they are a weak regional power and therefore he was right in 2012?
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ThePrinceFish posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

but according to Agent Orange there was no interference

According to your Messiah Obama, Romney was a buffoon when said we should worry about Russia.

i dont recall the exact context in which that was said or what it was about, specifically. but if Obama somehow implied that we shouldn't do anything about Russia ever, then I'd say he was wrong.

It's a reference to the 2012 election debate when Romney called Russia our greatest geo-political threat facing America and Obama told him the Cold War was over. It's used by Trump toadies to point out hypocrisy while completely ignoring events that had happened since the time Obama made that comment, such as the annexation of Crimea in 2014.

Odd because in 2014 Obama thinks that Russia going after Crimea is evidence of their overall weakness.

With respect to Mr. Romneys assertion that Russia is our number one geopolitical foe, the truth of the matter is that America has got a whole lot of challenges. Russia is a regional power that is threatening some of its immediate neighbors not out of strength but out of weakness. Ukraine has been a country, [over] which Russia had enormous influence for decades, since the breakup of the Soviet Union. We have considerable influence on our neighbors; we generally dont need to invade them in order to have a strong cooperative relationship with them. The fact that Russia felt compelled to go in militarily and lay bare these violations of international law indicates [that they have] less influence, not more.

Yeah, that totally reads like political bullshit speak to me, something Obama certainly made a habit out of doing. It comes off, at least to me, as an attempt to basically discredit Russia to the world and basically say "they aren't shit, America is still on top" instead of propping them up.
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Trump's response to this is making him look guiltier .
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

I never said that he wasn't. I was instead saying that Obama making that comment in 2012 leaves out the context of Russian action since 2012 and is used as a way to discredit him.

There's no context to ignore. Obama said it, and it was a really fucking stupid thing to say in 2012. Then, in 2014, after Crimea, he doubled-down on that same rhetoric.
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A source speaking to Bloomberg just said that Mueller hasn't yet determined if the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.

Translation -- Mueller still has nothing on Trump - Russia.

And these latest indictments suggest he never will.

DifferentialEquation posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

but according to Agent Orange there was no interference

According to your Messiah Obama, Romney was a buffoon when said we should worry about Russia.

Obama is no one's messiah, and it looks like he was wrong and Romney was right. I give Romney credit, as much as I hated him at the time. I also didn't believe him, but it appears I should have.
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Russia being proven to have done what everyone aside from Trump supporters already knew they did. What a shock