Current Events > Nikolas Cruz the Florida shooter regrets and is deeply sad, shares the pain.

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iClockwork
02/16/18 6:19:26 AM
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/sad-remorseful-nikolas-cruzs-lawyer-12034133

Nikolas Cruz, the suspected gunman, was charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder today.

Both of his lawyers, Melissa McNeill and Gordon Weekes have spoken of Cruz's condition as "sad" after 17 people were killed and many more injured in the atrocity at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland yesterday.

Students and staff barricaded themselves inside classrooms - with one group hiding in a closet as pupils cried in terror - as the shooter carried out the Valentine's Day massacre with an assault rifle.

Today the suspect's lawyer said he was both mournful and remorseful and 'felt the pain felt by the community'.

When asked to describe Cruz's demeanor Ms McNeill replied: "He's a broken human being, he's a broken child.

"The sadness this community is feeling, I mean my children go to school in this community. I feel horrible for these families.

"And Mr Cruz feels that pain."


There's no justifying murdering innocent children but its a shame another life will be lost because of a momentary lapse in judgement.
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Zeeak4444
02/16/18 6:20:02 AM
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Said no one ever.
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boxington
02/16/18 6:21:59 AM
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iClockwork posted...
but its a shame another life will be lost because of a momentary lapse in judgement.


pretty low to troll about a tragedy like this
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Mal_Fet
02/16/18 6:22:54 AM
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That's nice.

I hope he fries.
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iClockwork
02/16/18 6:24:07 AM
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boxington posted...
pretty low to troll about a tragedy like this

Nobodys trolling dude. Literally a person made a terrible decision and it will cost him his life to. This in no way takes away from the victims and honestly it kinda makes me just as sick that people fetishize punishment.
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ThePieReborn
02/16/18 6:25:36 AM
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Duly noted.
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V-E-G-Y-
02/16/18 6:26:47 AM
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ClockworkHare
02/16/18 6:30:52 AM
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He's still alive?

Wow, didn't expect that....
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Chicken
02/16/18 6:33:19 AM
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ClockworkHare posted...
He's still alive?

Wow, didn't expect that....

He probably wussed out at the last second. They probably have him on suicide watch.
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boxington
02/16/18 6:36:09 AM
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iirc, he tried to sneak out with the other students, but was caught
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iClockwork
02/16/18 6:37:47 AM
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Chicken posted...
ClockworkHare posted...
He's still alive?

Wow, didn't expect that....

He probably wussed out at the last second. They probably have him on suicide watch.

Supposedly he dropped the rifle and ran during the confusion first to a Walmart then to a McDonalds where he was taken into custody.
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UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:39:51 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Chicken posted...
ClockworkHare posted...
He's still alive?

Wow, didn't expect that....

He probably wussed out at the last second. They probably have him on suicide watch.

Supposedly he dropped the rifle and ran during the confusion first to a Walmart then to a McDonalds where he was taken into custody.

That's unusual.

Most of these killers have an endgame of killing themselves.

This guy wanted to live?

Suppose he got away. Sure he would have been caught within a week or so... But just imagine killing 17 kids and then the next day just going to McDonalds and watching The Simpsons like nothing happened
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iClockwork
02/16/18 6:42:59 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
iClockwork posted...
Chicken posted...
ClockworkHare posted...
He's still alive?

Wow, didn't expect that....

He probably wussed out at the last second. They probably have him on suicide watch.

Supposedly he dropped the rifle and ran during the confusion first to a Walmart then to a McDonalds where he was taken into custody.

That's unusual.

Most of these killers have an endgame of killing themselves.

This guy wanted to live?

Suppose he got away. Sure he would have been caught within a week or so... But just imagine killing 17 kids and then the next day just going to McDonalds and watching The Simpsons like nothing happened

Thats why im of the opinion that people can have a moment of clarity and truly regret what theyve done.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
02/16/18 6:43:50 AM
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IClockwork is trying to be an edgier 2ND rate @UnfairRepresent . There's only room for the one contrarian on this board, so now to the king TC.

Seriously though you've been trolling a lot about dumb shit lately
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UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 6:45:07 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
IClockwork is trying to be an edgier 2ND rate @UnfairRepresent . There's only room for the one contrarian on this board, so now to the king TC.

I disagree that I am a contrarian.
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GOOMFalse
02/16/18 6:47:17 AM
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Yeah, poor guy. It was just a small mistake, i mean, who hasn't accidentally brought a rifle to a school and murdered people on accident 17 times?
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iClockwork
02/16/18 6:48:13 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
IClockwork is trying to be an edgier 2ND rate @UnfairRepresent . There's only room for the one contrarian on this board, so now to the king TC.

Seriously though you've been trolling a lot about dumb shit lately

How is stating what ive posted edgy? It might benefit some of us to have really look at the people behind these events to better understand and hopefully help prevent these instqnces from reoccuring.
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scorpion41
02/16/18 6:51:13 AM
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Hes about to try and play the system like the Joker killer did. Theyll start with trying for sympathy before pleading insanity. Itll be a shit show for the next few months.
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LightningAce11
02/16/18 6:53:42 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
IClockwork is trying to be an edgier 2ND rate @UnfairRepresent . There's only room for the one contrarian on this board, so now to the king TC.

I disagree that I am a contrarian.

Lol.
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Stewman_Magoo
02/16/18 7:14:20 AM
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Glad to know the shooter is at least human...

Welp, good luck with that impending death penalty!

Oh who am I kidding, he'll probably be deemed not criminally responsible
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Dash_Harber
02/16/18 7:17:10 AM
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iClockwork posted...
a momentary lapse in judgement.


From all the evidence so far, he'd actually been pretty open about wanting to shoot people, bragged about his AR-15, and routinely spouted white supremacist bullshit on any forum that he could, so I wouldn't all it 'momentary'.
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Chicken
02/16/18 7:19:09 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
iClockwork posted...
a momentary lapse in judgement.


From all the evidence so far, he'd actually been pretty open about wanting to shoot people, bragged about his AR-15, and routinely spouted white supremacist bullshit on any forum that he could, so I wouldn't all it 'momentary'.


I wonder how many CE users fall under this description as well.
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Patchwork
02/16/18 7:22:29 AM
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iClockwork posted...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/sad-remorseful-nikolas-cruzs-lawyer-12034133

Nikolas Cruz, the suspected gunman, was charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder today.

Both of his lawyers, Melissa McNeill and Gordon Weekes have spoken of Cruz's condition as "sad" after 17 people were killed and many more injured in the atrocity at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland yesterday.

Students and staff barricaded themselves inside classrooms - with one group hiding in a closet as pupils cried in terror - as the shooter carried out the Valentine's Day massacre with an assault rifle.

Today the suspect's lawyer said he was both mournful and remorseful and 'felt the pain felt by the community'.

When asked to describe Cruz's demeanor Ms McNeill replied: "He's a broken human being, he's a broken child.

"The sadness this community is feeling, I mean my children go to school in this community. I feel horrible for these families.

"And Mr Cruz feels that pain."


There's no justifying murdering innocent children but its a shame another life will be lost because of a momentary lapse in judgement.


A momentary lapse in judgement stole 17 lives. His life is forfeit. Fuck him.
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frozenshock
02/16/18 7:22:32 AM
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I have no doubt that he's a broken kid and is depressed.

But the time to express that you're broken and depressed is before you go on a rampage and kill 17 people. It's too late now.
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iClockwork
02/16/18 7:25:59 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
From all the evidence so far, he'd actually been pretty open about wanting to shoot people, bragged about his AR-15, and routinely spouted white supremacist bullshit on any forum that he could, so I wouldn't all it 'momentary'.

Sure but there is a large difference in fantasizing and acting on the action. Once acted on there is absolutely the possibility that Nikolas almost immediately regretted his actions.

Its highly unusual for a shooter to drop his or her weapon and run.
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UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:31:23 AM
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Chicken posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
iClockwork posted...
a momentary lapse in judgement.


From all the evidence so far, he'd actually been pretty open about wanting to shoot people, bragged about his AR-15, and routinely spouted white supremacist bullshit on any forum that he could, so I wouldn't all it 'momentary'.


I wonder how many CE users fall under this description as well.

Dj vu

I am 97% you have said this exact same post in response to a very similar post before.
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frozenshock
02/16/18 7:34:24 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Sure but there is a large difference in fantasizing and acting on the action. Once acted on there is absolutely the possibility that Nikolas almost immediately regretted his actions.

Its highly unusual for a shooter to drop his or her weapon and run.


There's still quite an amount of preparation that it takes to actually bring the guns to school, pull the fire alarm and start shooting. He had plenty of opportunities to change his mind up until the moment he started shooting.

And now 17 people are dead.
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DoubleDare
02/16/18 7:38:29 AM
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Kinda reminds me of Chris Benoit.

I would like to hear more of his story, because of him, people with strong political beliefs are being so vile and hateful to each other, saying "No it is ONLY about GUNS! A GUN DID IT!"
"No its Mental Health"

Heres a clue people: its BOTH.
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DifferentialEquation
02/16/18 7:41:21 AM
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Lots of people are broken and unhappy; they don't go on killing sprees.. I hope he spends the rest of his days in complete misery and then dies a slow and painful death
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Zeeak4444
02/16/18 7:43:01 AM
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DoubleDare posted...
Kinda reminds me of Chris Benoit.

I would like to hear more of his story, because of him, people with strong political beliefs are being so vile and hateful to each other, saying "No it is ONLY about GUNS! A GUN DID IT!"
"No its Mental Health"

Heres a clue people: its BOTH.


Well, let's be fair here. The side saying it's only mental health is also the side that opposes funding research into mental health.

At least guns are something we can make adjustments to right now. As a huge advocate for mental health research I find it disingenuous to be part of the discussion since the idea of funding that route is completely out of the question.
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UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:45:31 AM
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DoubleDare posted...
Kinda reminds me of Chris Benoit.

I would like to hear more of his story, because of him, people with strong political beliefs are being so vile and hateful to each other, saying "No it is ONLY about GUNS! A GUN DID IT!"
"No its Mental Health"

Heres a clue people: its BOTH.

Benoit didn't use guns.
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DoubleDare
02/16/18 7:51:08 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
DoubleDare posted...
Kinda reminds me of Chris Benoit.

I would like to hear more of his story, because of him, people with strong political beliefs are being so vile and hateful to each other, saying "No it is ONLY about GUNS! A GUN DID IT!"
"No its Mental Health"

Heres a clue people: its BOTH.

Benoit didn't use guns.


I meant the feeling remorse afterwards, while we don't know for sure, it seems like he did, by placing bibles next to their heads then killing himself.

And yes, I agree repubicans shouldn't say Mental Health is the problem if they aren't going to do something about it.
Then again they probably still have medical books from the 50s.
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KillerKhan420
02/16/18 7:51:15 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
DoubleDare posted...
Kinda reminds me of Chris Benoit.

I would like to hear more of his story, because of him, people with strong political beliefs are being so vile and hateful to each other, saying "No it is ONLY about GUNS! A GUN DID IT!"
"No its Mental Health"

Heres a clue people: its BOTH.

Benoit didn't use guns.


That's because Benoit was 4 real.

Either way, I don't give a shit a murderer is "sad", fuck him. The best thing would of been to end himself but he couldn't even do that so now, lengthly trial costing alot of money and another 10 years of life until his death which I'm not sure if Florida has the death penalty.
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CaptainCrunch
02/16/18 7:55:26 AM
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Chicken posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
iClockwork posted...
a momentary lapse in judgement.


From all the evidence so far, he'd actually been pretty open about wanting to shoot people, bragged about his AR-15, and routinely spouted white supremacist bullshit on any forum that he could, so I wouldn't all it 'momentary'.


I wonder how many CE users fall under this description as well.


that gunplagirl character is pretty consistent with how she talks about capitalists in regards to this
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Stewman_Magoo
02/16/18 7:56:51 AM
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DoubleDare posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
DoubleDare posted...
Kinda reminds me of Chris Benoit.

I would like to hear more of his story, because of him, people with strong political beliefs are being so vile and hateful to each other, saying "No it is ONLY about GUNS! A GUN DID IT!"
"No its Mental Health"

Heres a clue people: its BOTH.

Benoit didn't use guns.


I meant the feeling remorse afterwards, while we don't know for sure, it seems like he did, by placing bibles next to their heads then killing himself.

And yes, I agree repubicans shouldn't say Mental Health is the problem if they aren't going to do something about it.
Then again they probably still have medical books from the 50s.


https://m.soundcloud.com/lastpodcastontheleft/episode-265-chris-benoit

He suffered extensive head injuries because of his 'finishing move', and other head trauma he sustained most of his life.

They go into quite a bit of detail in this podcast. NSFW though, listen with headphones on if you're in a public place.
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Mister_Spyker
02/16/18 7:56:51 AM
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Imagine having to actually defend this guy in a court of law!
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UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 7:57:39 AM
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Mister_Spyker posted...
Imagine having to actually defend this guy in a court of law!

Someone has to do it man.
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Zodd3224
02/16/18 7:59:19 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...
That's nice.

I hope he fries.

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Kanaya413
02/16/18 8:03:27 AM
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Zodd3224 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
That's nice.

I hope he fries.

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ledbowman
02/16/18 8:05:13 AM
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The State of Florida will execute him.
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Nomadic View
02/16/18 8:08:04 AM
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A lapse in judgement?!

No, a lapse in judgement is when you ordered deep fried Oreo pizza instead of a salad. This was just calculated cruelty.
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GiftedACIII
02/16/18 8:12:10 AM
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Get a load of this guy.
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DoubleDare
02/16/18 8:13:39 AM
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He had to walk to the school he was expelled from, he surely could've thought "hmm maybe this isn't a good idea" at some point
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l Dudeboy l
02/16/18 8:14:18 AM
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Too bad.

Fry the fucker.
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DoubleDare
02/16/18 8:16:25 AM
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Death penalty seems legal in Florida.
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NinjaBreakfast
02/16/18 8:17:06 AM
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It's almost as if the TC is a troll!
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Doe
02/16/18 8:19:23 AM
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Clearly he's not fit to be in society, but that's partially because he surely has some mental disorder going on. I hear the fbi new of his plans since last year but did jack shit
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