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NeonOctopus
02/07/18 7:46:31 PM
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I know the dragon can't kill anyone stronger than him. But he can probably blow up their ships, they can't breathe in space, so they die. Earth is saved. Frieza never finds out about Earth. Yamcha doesn't die and still fucks Bulma every night. Goku gets wished back next year. BAM!

Though there might be problems later. Garlic Jr. shouldn't be a problem with Goku on the roster, but he definitely dies from the heart virus during the Androids, and then Buu appears like 6 years later too.

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DoctorPiranha3
02/07/18 7:47:36 PM
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Same reason they didn't wish to find Dr. Gero's location and snuff him out before he could release the androids.
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Zikten
02/07/18 7:47:39 PM
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no vegeta to help out later. no Trunks
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NeonOctopus
02/07/18 7:48:01 PM
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Zikten posted...
no vegeta to help out later. no Trunks

But they wouldn't know that at the time
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DrizztLink
02/07/18 7:48:19 PM
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littlebro07
02/07/18 7:48:34 PM
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"You could just wish for me, a magical dragon, to send them into an asteroid field. One crossed wire and BOOM"
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YellowSUV
02/07/18 7:48:47 PM
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The dragon might not be able to grant wishes that create a loophole like that.
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Juhanor
02/07/18 7:49:43 PM
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If DB was written by Araki, this would have happened.
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Zikten
02/07/18 8:18:26 PM
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Well it;s good they didn't cause without Trunks they wouldn't survive the androids. and without Vegeta they don't beat Buu
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yusiko
02/07/18 8:20:23 PM
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IIRC the dragon couldnt revive someone who had been dead for more than a year back then so had she wished for the ships to blow up she would have missed her chance at reviving goku
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DoctorPiranha3
02/07/18 8:23:24 PM
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Actually, you guys forget. Oolong did wish for Shenron to kill the Saiyans (of which Bulma got mad for him not considering bringing back Goku), but Shenron said that eliminating the Saiyans is beyond his power.

So there you go.
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NeonOctopus
02/07/18 8:29:18 PM
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...
Actually, you guys forget. Oolong did wish for Shenron to kill the Saiyans (of which Bulma got mad for him not considering bringing back Goku), but Shenron said that eliminating the Saiyans is beyond his power.

So there you go.

NeonOctopus posted...
I know the dragon can't kill anyone stronger than him. But he can probably blow up their ships

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Webmaster4531
02/07/18 8:31:23 PM
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Maybe an intergalactic ship is stronger than Shenron?
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sauceje
02/07/18 8:33:15 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Yamcha doesn't die and still fucks Bulma every night. BAM!

What version of DBZ did you watch that I somehow missed? Yamcha going near women willingly?
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NeonOctopus
02/07/18 8:33:53 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
"You could just wish for me, a magical dragon, to send them into an asteroid field. One crossed wire and BOOM"

Wait, did Abridged address this? I haven't watched it in forever >_>
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DoctorPiranha3
02/07/18 8:35:13 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
DoctorPiranha3 posted...
Actually, you guys forget. Oolong did wish for Shenron to kill the Saiyans (of which Bulma got mad for him not considering bringing back Goku), but Shenron said that eliminating the Saiyans is beyond his power.

So there you go.

NeonOctopus posted...
I know the dragon can't kill anyone stronger than him. But he can probably blow up their ships

It's the same thing in that case.
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Scotty_Rogers
02/08/18 12:00:41 AM
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@DoctorPiranha3 posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
DoctorPiranha3 posted...
Actually, you guys forget. Oolong did wish for Shenron to kill the Saiyans (of which Bulma got mad for him not considering bringing back Goku), but Shenron said that eliminating the Saiyans is beyond his power.

So there you go.

NeonOctopus posted...
I know the dragon can't kill anyone stronger than him. But he can probably blow up their ships

It's the same thing in that case.


No, it's not. Destroying a ship wouldn't be what kills the Saiyan; the lack of oxygen in space would kill them.

The Dragon can't directly affect Vegeta and Nappa because they're stronger. However, he should be able to destroy their ships, as their ships aren't as strong.
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foreveraIone
02/08/18 12:01:29 AM
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...
Same reason they didn't wish to find Dr. Gero's location and snuff him out before he could release the androids.

no they didn't do that because they didn't want to kill him for a crime he didn't do yet.

not blowing up their ships was a plothole
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Second_Chances
02/08/18 12:07:40 AM
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no one thought about it
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Webmaster4531
02/08/18 12:09:40 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
However, he should be able to destroy their ships, as their ships aren't as strong.

Webmaster4531 posted...
Maybe an intergalactic ship is stronger than Shenron?

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Howl
02/08/18 12:13:04 AM
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I'm pretty sure in some of the flashbacks in early DBZ it shows Vegta blowing up some planet and he's just flying in outer space, so maybe he can breathe in outer space anyway somehow. Maybe that's just a completwly false memory or something though.
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Kaname_Madoka
02/08/18 12:26:01 AM
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because toriyama doesnt put effort in
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The_Juice_
02/08/18 12:28:30 AM
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Howl posted...
I'm pretty sure in some of the flashbacks in early DBZ it shows Vegta blowing up some planet and he's just flying in outer space, so maybe he can breathe in outer space anyway somehow. Maybe that's just a completwly false memory or something though.


Frieza's logic in blowing up Namek was "I can breathe in space but Saiyans can't"
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Webmaster4531
02/08/18 12:28:43 AM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
because toriyama doesnt put effort in

How should he have wrote it?
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DoctorVader
02/08/18 12:29:06 AM
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Because Bulma is a dumbass.
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Kaname_Madoka
02/08/18 12:30:30 AM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
because toriyama doesnt put effort in

How should he have wrote it?

he shouldve addressed it in some way
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dave_is_slick
02/08/18 12:37:23 AM
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...
It's the same thing in that case.

No it's not, one is a wish to kill them directly, the other is a wish to blow up their ships.
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alt4445
02/08/18 12:38:52 AM
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Imagine trying to discuss the higher implications of fucking DBZ's plot.
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NeonOctopus
02/08/18 4:39:58 AM
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Howl posted...
I'm pretty sure in some of the flashbacks in early DBZ it shows Vegta blowing up some planet and he's just flying in outer space, so maybe he can breathe in outer space anyway somehow. Maybe that's just a completwly false memory or something though.

Maybe he held his breath >_> But he definitely can not survive in space though. That was the whole tension of Namek blowing up. Goku was unable to survive in space.
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NeonOctopus
02/08/18 4:40:45 AM
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alt4445 posted...
Imagine trying to discuss the higher implications of fucking DBZ's plot.

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frozenshock
02/08/18 4:41:45 AM
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You can't resurrect someone after more than a year with the dragon balls... so if they had destroyed the ships then Goku would have never been able to be resurrected since they would have had to make the wish more than a year after he died
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Scotty_Rogers
02/08/18 4:42:37 AM
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frozenshock posted...
You can't resurrect someone after more than a year with the dragon balls


Resurrection F debunks this myth.
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NeonOctopus
02/08/18 4:44:21 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
frozenshock posted...
You can't resurrect someone after more than a year with the dragon balls


Resurrection F debunks this myth.

Maybe it was different with the new dragonballs. Like how Kami's dragonballs only allowed 1 resurrection total per person.
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frozenshock
02/08/18 4:46:56 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Resurrection F debunks this myth.


What myth? Read the manga. It's what Kami says to Kaio while they are discussing the power of the dragonballs to send everyone to earth while Goku is fighting Freezer
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Tropicalwood
02/08/18 4:47:46 AM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Instead of killing them, why not just ask the dragon to send them to another dimension? Problem solved.

It has to be consensual
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frozenshock
02/08/18 4:49:41 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Maybe it was different with the new dragonballs. Kami's dragonballs only allowed 1 resurrection total per person.


Kami's dragonballs had two conditions when it came to resurrecting people

- You can't express the same wish twice, therefore the same person can't be resurrected twice (which is why they needed the namek balls for Chaozu)

- You can't resurrect someone who's been dead for more than a year

So, if the dragonballs had destroyed the saiyan ships, by the time they would've become usable again Goku would've been dead for more than a year and he couldn't have been ressurected
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Scotty_Rogers
02/08/18 4:59:24 AM
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frozenshock posted...
Scotty_Rogers posted...
Resurrection F debunks this myth.


What myth? Read the manga. It's what Kami says to Kaio while they are discussing the power of the dragonballs to send everyone to earth while Goku is fighting Freezer


When trying to wish back a group of people, you can only wish people who died in the past year.

If it's just one person, there's no time limit to when you can wish them back.
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Dash_Harber
02/08/18 5:00:16 AM
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Or, you know, wish for a device that allows the user to warp reality at will.

Seriously, though, any plot device involving the power of granting wishes in inherently broken and only can function in a story if all the characters are collectively idiots.
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frozenshock
02/08/18 5:03:06 AM
#41:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
When trying to wish back a group of people, you can only wish people who died in the past year.

If it's just one person, there's no time limit to when you can wish them back.


Kami doesn't say that this only applies when wishing back a group of people.
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jumi
02/08/18 5:04:47 AM
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DoctorVader posted...
Because Bulma is a dumbass.


She is literally one of the smartest people on the planet.
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Scotty_Rogers
02/08/18 5:14:00 AM
#43:


frozenshock posted...
Scotty_Rogers posted...
When trying to wish back a group of people, you can only wish people who died in the past year.

If it's just one person, there's no time limit to when you can wish them back.


Kami doesn't say that this only applies when wishing back a group of people.


He was only speaking in regards to a group of beings, not just one being.

Resurrection F proves that you can wish back a single being regardless of how long they've been dead.
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Offworlder1
02/08/18 5:14:45 AM
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The dragonballs of earth are weaker then thr namek dragonballs, they even comment on it in both the manga and anime during the namek saga.
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AuraBlaze1
02/08/18 5:15:19 AM
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Why doesn't Goku just eat Vegeta?
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jumi
02/08/18 5:17:43 AM
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AuraBlaze1 posted...
Why doesn't Goku just eat Vegeta?


Why doesn't Cell, the largest character, not simply eat the rest?
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Hornezz
02/08/18 5:46:20 AM
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Vegeta and Nappa seem to able to breathe and talk in space:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnqtg0bte6w

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NeonOctopus
02/08/18 5:54:57 AM
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Hornezz posted...
Vegeta and Nappa seem to able to breathe and talk in space:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnqtg0bte6w

lol, either
A. They're getting enough residual air from their ships and the planet to be able to do that
B. They have training to hold their breath for a while and talk like that >_>
C. Toryama is just being dumb

Probably C >_>
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DocileOrangeCup
02/08/18 6:01:45 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Probably C >_>

UH WELL TECHNICALLY THEY ARE ONLY IN SPACE FOR A FEW SECONDS BECAUSE OF FAST THEY MOVE AND WHO CAN'T HOLD THEIR BREATH FOR A FEW SECONDS
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frozenshock
02/08/18 6:15:20 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Resurrection F proves that you can wish back a single being regardless of how long they've been dead.


It's not really the same, though. After Piccolo and Kami fused, Dende became the new Kami and he created new dragon balls with different powers than Kami's
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