Current Events > Trump Admin wants to test controversial reverse abortion procedure on teen

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Junkratprime03
01/31/18 3:39:25 PM
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https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/yw5a5g/exclusive-trump-officials-discussed-reversing-abortion-for-undocumented-teen

The Trump administration official in charge of the Office of Refugee Resettlement discussed trying to use a controversial, scientifically unproven method to reverse an undocumented teen's abortion, according to documents reviewed by VICE News.

Scott Lloyd, a longtime crusader against abortion who heads the agency that oversees undocumented minors who enter the country without their parents, spoke with staffers about trying to reverse the abortion of a pregnant teen in their custody, according to a deposition he underwent as part of a lawsuit between the Trump administration and the American Civil Liberties Union.

In the past few years, opponents of abortion have championed the idea of halting a medication abortion midway by using the hormone progesterone. Anti-abortion activists have pushed governors in four states to sign laws requiring healthcare providers to tell patients about this so-called abortion reversal method. But there is no credible medical evidence that such a procedure works, and the mainstream medical community worries that using it amounts to experimentation on women.


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Foppe
01/31/18 3:42:27 PM
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Reverse abortion is what?
Sex?
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Inferno Dive Dragoon
01/31/18 3:42:51 PM
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Junkratprime03 posted...
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/yw5a5g/exclusive-trump-officials-discussed-reversing-abortion-for-undocumented-teen

The Trump administration official in charge of the Office of Refugee Resettlement discussed trying to use a controversial, scientifically unproven method to reverse an undocumented teen's abortion, according to documents reviewed by VICE News.

Scott Lloyd, a longtime crusader against abortion who heads the agency that oversees undocumented minors who enter the country without their parents, spoke with staffers about trying to reverse the abortion of a pregnant teen in their custody, according to a deposition he underwent as part of a lawsuit between the Trump administration and the American Civil Liberties Union.

In the past few years, opponents of abortion have championed the idea of halting a medication abortion midway by using the hormone progesterone. Anti-abortion activists have pushed governors in four states to sign laws requiring healthcare providers to tell patients about this so-called abortion reversal method. But there is no credible medical evidence that such a procedure works, and the mainstream medical community worries that using it amounts to experimentation on women.


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Don't forgot how much they support women!

Class acts, those guys.
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smoliske
01/31/18 3:43:57 PM
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Foppe posted...
Reverse abortion is what?
Sex?


A treatment to reverse the effects of the "abortion pills", known as mifepristone and misoprostol
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Antifar
01/31/18 3:44:29 PM
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Excuse the fuck me
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Darklit_Minuet
01/31/18 3:45:06 PM
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Foppe posted...
Reverse abortion is what?
Sex?

Bring the fetus back to life and reimplant it in the poor teen
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Tmaster148
01/31/18 3:45:55 PM
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Scientific unproven method is exactly the kind of thing Trump's admin will go for. Can't trust the experts cuz you disagree with them so gotta make up stuff that has no grounds in reality.
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Foppe
01/31/18 3:46:39 PM
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Fetus Jesus?
Zombie fetus?
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CableZL
01/31/18 3:48:59 PM
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butthole666
01/31/18 3:50:41 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
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TheVipaGTS
01/31/18 3:50:45 PM
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I cant wait until these dinosaurs stop running this country. What the fuck kind of stupid ass backwards thinking is this..
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prince_leo
01/31/18 3:51:04 PM
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today is just a horrible day for news it seems
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flussence
01/31/18 3:52:11 PM
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This is the sort of shit even China would find unethical
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LightHawKnight
01/31/18 3:52:36 PM
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So human testing is allowed now?
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Freddie_Mercury
01/31/18 3:53:04 PM
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In an internal administration document describing his decision to refuse to allow one of those teenagers whod been impregnated by rape to get an abortion, Lloyd called the procedure violence that has the ultimate destruction of another human being as its goal.


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butthole666
01/31/18 3:55:56 PM
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butthole666 posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

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tremain07
01/31/18 3:58:15 PM
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God, fuck the G.O.P. and Trump for evil shit like this, people who swear these fuckers aren't evil are either blind or benefiting from the acts they do. This is ridiculous that a country that bills itself on freedom and modernization is this willing to go back to 1880's levels of fucking over minorities and women.
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GiftedACIII
01/31/18 4:11:49 PM
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lmao literally human experimentation. The GOP apparently wants to go further and further into undeveloped country status
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Tyranthraxus
01/31/18 4:14:17 PM
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this is literally straight out of the nazi playbooks.
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MorbidFaithless
01/31/18 4:18:20 PM
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tremain07 posted...
God, fuck the G.O.P. and Trump for evil shit like this, people who swear these fuckers aren't evil are either blind or benefiting from the acts they do. This is ridiculous that a country that bills itself on freedom and modernization is this willing to go back to 1880's levels of fucking over minorities and women.

This. The "both sides!!" argument does not work anymore. It hasn't for a while. They are clearly evil. There's no other words for their actions.
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armandro
01/31/18 4:20:10 PM
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trump is gendo
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Solar_Crimson
01/31/18 4:20:47 PM
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masterpug53
01/31/18 4:24:58 PM
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butthole666 posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele


Came in to say that this is borderline Mengele shit.
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Tupacrulez
01/31/18 4:29:23 PM
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LordRazziel
01/31/18 4:33:03 PM
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While it's fucked up that they tried to force the treatment on her and denied abortions, even in the case of rape, I see nothing wrong with an abortion reversal treatment. Just because there isn't evidence that it works, doesn't mean it doesn't. I didn't see them say anything about the treatment being harmful, so I see nothing wrong with reaserching it. To all the people freaking out about human testing, every medical treatment requires human testing.
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Tyranthraxus
01/31/18 4:34:22 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
Just because there isn't evidence that it works, doesn't mean it doesn't.

R u srs?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
01/31/18 4:36:50 PM
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butthole666 posted...
butthole666 posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele


Is this that Mengele Effect they were talking about in that x-files episode?
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CasualGuy
01/31/18 4:38:01 PM
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literal nazi scientist type shit
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/31/18 4:40:00 PM
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I thought they were against anchor babies or . . .? I dunno wtf this article is about.
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LordRazziel
01/31/18 4:40:14 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Just because there isn't evidence that it works, doesn't mean it doesn't.

R u srs?

Yes.
I suppose it would depend on how much research has been done. If it has been minimal, I don't see why they shouldn't look into it. If the research was extensive or conclusive, then it should be abandoned.
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Axiom
01/31/18 4:41:14 PM
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I uh really expected some kind of satirical site and am legitimately shocked this is serious. Congrats Trump administration. You've done something I thought was impossible at this point. You surprised me
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gunplagirl
01/31/18 4:44:02 PM
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This reminds me of that family guy bit where a girl and Brian talked at a Halloween party, and she said she was a victim of the liberal agenda, then said that they'd abort babies and put them back in and abort them again.

Leave it to conservatives to want to make that a reality
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OpShaft
01/31/18 5:14:23 PM
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I don't support this, but isn't any new procedure an "experiment on humans"?
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Tyranthraxus
01/31/18 5:24:12 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Just because there isn't evidence that it works, doesn't mean it doesn't.

R u srs?

Yes.
I suppose it would depend on how much research has been done. If it has been minimal, I don't see why they shouldn't look into it. If the research was extensive or conclusive, then it should be abandoned.

There is no evidence any of the following stuff works:

Law of Attraction
Dianetics
Detox diets

But that doesn't mean they don't work, right?
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A_Good_Boy
01/31/18 5:28:09 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Just because there isn't evidence that it works, doesn't mean it doesn't.

R u srs?

Yes.
I suppose it would depend on how much research has been done. If it has been minimal, I don't see why they shouldn't look into it. If the research was extensive or conclusive, then it should be abandoned.

There is no evidence any of the following stuff works:

Law of Attraction
Dianetics
Detox diets

But that doesn't mean they don't work, right?

What's a placebo?
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Tyranthraxus
01/31/18 5:30:04 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Just because there isn't evidence that it works, doesn't mean it doesn't.

R u srs?

Yes.
I suppose it would depend on how much research has been done. If it has been minimal, I don't see why they shouldn't look into it. If the research was extensive or conclusive, then it should be abandoned.

There is no evidence any of the following stuff works:

Law of Attraction
Dianetics
Detox diets

But that doesn't mean they don't work, right?

What's a placebo?

something that is absolutely known to be completely non functional but given to people who are lied to about its functionality.
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weapon_d00d816
01/31/18 5:30:50 PM
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They're probably more stupid than evil.

"They can just take a pill and reverse it!"
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LordRazziel
01/31/18 5:46:48 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Just because there isn't evidence that it works, doesn't mean it doesn't.

R u srs?

Yes.
I suppose it would depend on how much research has been done. If it has been minimal, I don't see why they shouldn't look into it. If the research was extensive or conclusive, then it should be abandoned.

There is no evidence any of the following stuff works. I no nothing on what the research on
Law of Attraction
Dianetics
Detox diets

But that doesn't mean they don't work, right?

Right.
From what I have heard, though, the evidence that it doesn't work is pretty conclusive.
I know nothing about the research on progesterone to reverse an abortion. Like I said, If the research was extensive or conclusive, then it should be abandoned
That's all I'm saying.
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MorbidFaithless
01/31/18 6:52:11 PM
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...
tremain07 posted...
God, fuck the G.O.P. and Trump for evil shit like this, people who swear these fuckers aren't evil are either blind or benefiting from the acts they do. This is ridiculous that a country that bills itself on freedom and modernization is this willing to go back to 1880's levels of fucking over minorities and women.

This. The "both sides!!" argument does not work anymore.


how many times are you going to post this garbage

Until brainwashed cultists like you get it through your thick skulls. You're on the side of evil but you probably don't even care.
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LordRazziel
01/31/18 7:06:15 PM
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MorbidFaithless posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...
tremain07 posted...
God, fuck the G.O.P. and Trump for evil shit like this, people who swear these fuckers aren't evil are either blind or benefiting from the acts they do. This is ridiculous that a country that bills itself on freedom and modernization is this willing to go back to 1880's levels of fucking over minorities and women.

This. The "both sides!!" argument does not work anymore.


how many times are you going to post this garbage

Until brainwashed cultists like you get it through your thick skulls. You're on the side of evil but you probably don't even care.

I think you're going overboard. Republicans aren't the side of evil. The Democrats certainly aren't the side of good.
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FrenchCrunch
01/31/18 7:07:12 PM
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dude what the fuck is this real
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Kazi1212
01/31/18 7:16:04 PM
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Wow this is legit fucked up
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littlebro07
01/31/18 7:16:37 PM
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"We're totally not Nazis guys...Oh there were some good people on the neo-Nazi side, also we're doing some fucked up experiment on a minority. Did I mention that we're totally not Nazis?"
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BLAKUboy
01/31/18 7:17:48 PM
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So over/under when this guy resigns?
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ScazarMeltex
01/31/18 7:18:59 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
While it's fucked up that they tried to force the treatment on her and denied abortions, even in the case of rape, I see nothing wrong with an abortion reversal treatment. Just because there isn't evidence that it works, doesn't mean it doesn't. I didn't see them say anything about the treatment being harmful, so I see nothing wrong with reaserching it. To all the people freaking out about human testing, every medical treatment requires human testing.


Generally they are volunteers you fucking monster.
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KhlavicLanguage
01/31/18 7:23:34 PM
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I feel sick even reading about this.
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LordRazziel
01/31/18 7:23:36 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
"We're totally not Nazis guys...Oh there were some good people on the neo-Nazi side, also we're doing some fucked up experiment on a minority. Did I mention that we're totally not Nazis?"

You're conflating what one person said with an entire party.
Also, while still horrible, they weren't using her for an experiment. It was their warped sense of morality.
You're trying to make everything fit the way you want. Trouble is, when you do that, it always works.
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