Current Events > Trump Admin wants to test controversial reverse abortion procedure on teen

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Doctor Foxx posted...

LordRazziel posted...

Experimentation doesn't have to determine anything, however, the goal is always to determine something.
They used an experimental drug on her with callous disregard for effectiveness or safety. They did not try preform experimentation on her.

They didn't use an experimental drug on her. she only got a standard abortion treatment.

Using an experimental drug treatment on her to reverse an abortion would be medical experimentation. The government may not be scientists. They are not doing anything themselves. But doctors doing any experimental procedure (or giving patients experimental drug treatments) sure as fuck are documenting things and using it as information for further treatment. You don't just use experimental treatments without observation and documentation! Which makes it an experiment. I think you don't understand this... Something experimental when used and observed is itself experimentation.

Experimenting on humans unethically has a long history in the US. Those receiving experimental treatments have rights. The very first right is consent. She did not offer consent to the experimental treatment they wanted to use.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

Human subject rights

In 2010, the National Institute of Justice in the United States published recommended rights of human subjects:

Voluntary, informed consent
Respect for persons: treated as autonomous agents
The right to end participation in research at any time
Right to safeguard integrity
Benefits should outweigh cost
Protection from physical, mental and emotional harm
Access to information regarding research
Protection of privacy and well-being

This falls on many counts. If it's not an experiment, as you insist, it is cruel and unusual punishment. which is also not ok in America.

Meant to say "tried to use". I insist it is not experimentation because it objectively isn't.
I agree that it's cruel and immoral, and had they gone through with it, it would have been criminal.
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darkphoenix181 posted...

so correct me if I got this wrong

reverse abortion is the mother takes baby poison and they inject into her body baby antidote before the poison kills the baby?

even if it works, I would think the baby is already damaged

So... what's the problem? I can see that being useful if someone tries to kill a baby by making the mother take an abortion pill/
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TrojanPony posted...

So... what's the problem?

Read the first 150 posts
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Tyranthraxus posted...

TrojanPony posted...

So... what's the problem?

Read the first 150 posts

I got tired of the shitflinging and lost all interest so I'm just going to put this down as "Fuckwad leftists and idiot cuckservatives ranting about literally nothing, again".
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TrojanPony posted...

So... what's the problem?

TrojanPony posted...

even if it works, I would think the baby is already damaged

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good lord
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