Poll of the Day > State of the Union Address incoming

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Mead posted...

I ate dinner did anything good happen

Yeah, a pretty strong state of the union address that got some panties in a twist

Mead posted...

I ate dinner did anything good happen

Yes.

Trump told the state of our economy, our crime problems, our foreign relations, and our security, as well as announcing solutions to them, and none of the Democrats, even on bipartisan issues, refused to stand up, clap, or acknowledge Trump.

Noop_Noop posted...

Mead posted...

I ate dinner did anything good happen

Yeah, a pretty strong state of the union address that got some panties in a twist

Never even seen you on this board before and you just seem desperate to troll liberals so
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Also I question whether duckworth is even a real last name
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Mead posted...

Never even seen you on this board before and you just seem desperate to troll liberals so

He is telling the truth

Mead posted...

Noop_Noop posted...

Mead posted...

I ate dinner did anything good happen

Yeah, a pretty strong state of the union address that got some panties in a twist

Never even seen you on this board before and you just seem desperate to troll liberals so

Oh, I've been around for a while.

the US needs to start accepting more than 2 parties.

@Mead Noop is troll_police aka schmendrake so decide how serious you want to take him

JennyBear posted...

Zeus posted...

Those NK stories are horrifying, tbh.

yeah, i really wish the world would unite to end what is happening in NK. they can't fight that many countries. even if a ton of countries don't participate i can't imagine their military is that advanced. they spend their money on fucking nukes to powerplay.

Yes, let's steal more American taxpayer dollars, so that we can pay to meddle in the affairs of yet another foreign country!
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ew I thought I had all of him on ignore
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Oh baby you are breaking my heart.

BADoglick posted...

JennyBear posted...

Zeus posted...

Those NK stories are horrifying, tbh.

yeah, i really wish the world would unite to end what is happening in NK. they can't fight that many countries. even if a ton of countries don't participate i can't imagine their military is that advanced. they spend their money on fucking nukes to powerplay.

Yes, let's steal more American taxpayer dollars, so that we can pay to meddle in the affairs of yet another foreign country!

well if a lot of countries would agree to go in on the effort it wouldn't be that much.

these people are being tortured and murdered.

but you're okay with us wasting taxpayer dollars on a Mexican border wall and keeping Guantanamo Bay open?

Do you also oppose the wars going on against ISIS because it doesn't directly affect the US?

Are you okay with us selling arms to Saudi Arabia and allowing their citizens to immigrate here knowing they were the main financial benefactors for 9/11?

BADoglick posted...

JennyBear posted...

Zeus posted...

Those NK stories are horrifying, tbh.

yeah, i really wish the world would unite to end what is happening in NK. they can't fight that many countries. even if a ton of countries don't participate i can't imagine their military is that advanced. they spend their money on fucking nukes to powerplay.

Yes, let's steal more American taxpayer dollars, so that we can pay to meddle in the affairs of yet another foreign country!

Bro, NK is a problem. Whether your heart bleeds for its civilians, global safety, or national prosperity we should all be able to agree that NK needs to fucking go.

TheWorstPoster posted...

Mead posted...

I ate dinner did anything good happen

Yes.

Trump told the state of our economy, our crime problems, our foreign relations, and our security, as well as announcing solutions to them, and none of the Democrats, even on bipartisan issues, refused to stand up, clap, or acknowledge Trump.

lol. I wish I could meet you in real life.
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i wish we would get rid of the electoral college in the US.

just let people who win the popular vote in their areas get the positions.

i'm glad that gerrymandering is being seen in several courts and reversed.

JennyBear posted...

just let people who win the popular vote in their areas get the positions.

That's what the electoral college IS. Most votes per a statewide basis gets the President.

Or do you want the Presidential Candidates to go to the top 10 metropolitan areas, and absolutely nowhere else?

http://i.imgs.fyi/img/2ihn.jpg

TheWorstPoster posted...

JennyBear posted...

just let people who win the popular vote in their areas get the positions.

That's what the electoral college IS. Most votes per a statewide basis gets the President.

Or do you want the Presidential Candidates to go to the top 10 metropolitan areas, and absolutely nowhere else?

not surprised icoyar hasn't learned about gerrymandering or has and has ignored it.

if your party can only win by rigging votes then you should stop and maybe try a new tactic.

Why the f*** is it a big deal that the opposing party doesn't stand during the SotU?
It literally happens every single time, and it's not a big deal.

TheWorstPoster posted...

http://i.imgs.fyi/img/2ihn.jpg

Who gives a fuck? I didnt care when it was the other way around.
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shadowsword87 posted...

Why the f*** is it a big deal that the opposing party doesn't stand during the SotU?
It literally happens every single time, and it's not a big deal.

Especially for points like ISIS being decemated, or black unemployment being the lowest it's ever been, ever?

Perfect fodder for the Republican Party's political ads for their senatorial runs this year.

TheWorstPoster posted...

Especially for points like ISIS being decemated, or black unemployment being the lowest it's ever been, ever?
Perfect fodder for the Republican Party's political ads for their senatorial runs this year.

See, I'm not actually saying anything political about this.

Both sides do this, and I don't see why it's a big deal.

TheWorstPoster posted...

Like him or hate him, you cannot deny that this SOTU was strong.

uh, what? Half of it was clapping. The other half was split up between anecdotal stories to tug at emotions, lies or massive over exaggeration, and a little bit of actual facts and plans for the future sprinkled in.

IF he didn't keep motioning for people to stand up and clap for him it might have been a decent speech, but it was a still a speech targeted at his base rather than all Americans.
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TheWorstPoster posted...

black unemployment being the lowest it's ever been, ever?

do you realize that numbers like these take years of time and policy to lower?

you are giving props to a president who doesn't deserve it

if you're glad black employment is low thank obama right now

JennyBear posted...

BADoglick posted...

JennyBear posted...

Zeus posted...

Those NK stories are horrifying, tbh.

yeah, i really wish the world would unite to end what is happening in NK. they can't fight that many countries. even if a ton of countries don't participate i can't imagine their military is that advanced. they spend their money on fucking nukes to powerplay.

Yes, let's steal more American taxpayer dollars, so that we can pay to meddle in the affairs of yet another foreign country!

well if a lot of countries would agree to go in on the effort it wouldn't be that much.

these people are being tortured and murdered.

but you're okay with us wasting taxpayer dollars on a Mexican border wall and keeping Guantanamo Bay open?

Do you also oppose the wars going on against ISIS because it doesn't directly affect the US?

Are you okay with us selling arms to Saudi Arabia and allowing their citizens to immigrate here knowing they were the main financial benefactors for 9/11?

Lol, way to project your preconceived biases onto me. You know that I'm not a republican right? Nor a democrat, right?

Addressing your points:
1. I don't care if they're tortured and murdered. Not our problem. Intervention often creates new problems, which brings me to one of your other points....

2. ISIS. ISIS is a direct result of the power vacuum created by our interventions in Iraq and Syria. Literally Iraq and Syria are in the name ISIS. What do you think happens when we invade NK? A power vacuum, meaning now an east asian version of ISIS, or a ginormous welfare burden for the US, South Korea, and whomever you propose splitting this burden with. Canada and Britain helped with Iraq, btw. Did that help then?

3. I never claimed to support the border wall. You made that assumption. The use of tax payer dollars to fund the wall and the taking of land via eminent domain is theft.

4. I never said I supported Guantanamo Bay. You made that assumption. Again. Torture violates the non aggression principle.

5. Do I support selling arms to Saudis? No, because the arms are paid for initially with tax payer dollars, and the resulting profit is kept by the government. That's theft, regardless of the customer.

6. Do I support Saudi immigration despite 9/11? Yes. I don't disparage an entire people due to the actions of a few. While I certainly think that there should be some scrutiny of any person trying to enter the country, I am in favor of a fairly open immigration policy. The welfare state is the underlying problem with the immigration policy in this country; let people in, but make it on their own is the true American way.

So are there any other political opinions you presume for me to have?
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BADoglick posted...

way to project your preconceived biases onto me.

if you don't want people to do this maybe don't make your initial post so inflammatory.

BADoglick posted...

1. I don't care if they're tortured and murdered. Not our problem. Intervention often creates new problems, which brings me to one of your other points....

okay well i disagree with this.

BADoglick posted...

2. ISIS. ISIS is a direct result of the power vacuum created by our interventions in Iraq and Syria. Literally Iraq and Syria are in the name ISIS. What do you think happens when we invade NK? A power vacuum, meaning now an east asian version of ISIS, or a ginormous welfare burden for the US, South Korea, and whomever you propose splitting this burden with. Canada and Britain helped with Iraq, btw. Did that help then?

i don't want to "invade" alone. as a planet we could all donate to try to help them get a non-dictating government.

BADoglick posted...

3. I never claimed to support the border wall. You made that assumption. The use of tax payer dollars to fund the wall and the taking of land via eminent domain is theft.

your only moral objection is because of land ownership?

BADoglick posted...

4. I never said I supported Guantanamo Bay. You made that assumption. Again. Torture violates the non aggression principle.

yeah that was an assumption i made if you don't agree with guantanamo bay i apologize.

BADoglick posted...

3. I never claimed to support the border wall. You made that assumption. The use of tax payer dollars to fund the wall and the taking of land via eminent domain is theft.

if you don't agree with that i also apologize for the assumption

the other parts were questions to gauge your opinion.

i'd be more than happy for us to liberate NK.

As far as NK, everything you're saying is Iraq all over again. Yes, it's terrible. Yes, they could use help. But has Iraq improved? Do you realize how much each individual has spent funding that war? You could buy a Porsche with that money. Not that luxury items are a priority, I'm somewhat of a minimalist myself, but the point stands.

And my moral objection to the wall is that I morally oppose theft and destruction. Animals will die. Trees will be cut down. Homeowners will be forced to sell land for pennies on the dollar to accommodate the construction. And dollars will be stolen from hard working middle class employees to fund said wall. That's my big moral objection to the wall.
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After that State of the Union address--great speech--I don't understand how anyone can hate President Donald Trump. And yet, through the whole thing, the Democrats sat their with a Grumpy Cat expression on their faces, like "Mom, why'd you make me go to school today? I wanted to stay home!"
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I don't think people know what a good speech is.

he was good at reading the teleprompter and doing so people would stand and clap

it was a largely inoffensive speech. but nothingburger? that is more like it
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Doctor Foxx posted...

he was good at reading the teleprompter and doing so people would stand and clap

Eh, I'm not going to give any crap for reading a teleprompter, fair enough this is a big deal so he's being careful not to talk about how mexicans are coming to rape white women.

I'm more sad that there just wasn't any good public speaking skills getting shown off. Nothing bad, but nothing good.

TheWorstPoster posted...

Very nice address.

All of Trump's points, I have read about them over the past year.

Dems are mad.

Like him or hate him, you cannot deny that this SOTU was strong.

^ This.

Everyone was waiting for him to screw up in even the most slightly way, he did not.

Solid Mr. President
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shadowsword87 posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

he was good at reading the teleprompter and doing so people would stand and clap

Eh, I'm not going to give any crap for reading a teleprompter, fair enough this is a big deal so he's being careful not to talk about how mexicans are coming to rape white women.

I'm more sad that there just wasn't any good public speaking skills getting shown off. Nothing bad, but nothing good.

i think he should do the teleprompter more. he was actually coherent and kept on a line of thought without interjecting stories about himself. and maybe practice reading from one
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Doctor Foxx posted...

shadowsword87 posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

he was good at reading the teleprompter and doing so people would stand and clap

Eh, I'm not going to give any crap for reading a teleprompter, fair enough this is a big deal so he's being careful not to talk about how mexicans are coming to rape white women.

I'm more sad that there just wasn't any good public speaking skills getting shown off. Nothing bad, but nothing good.

i think he should do the teleprompter more. he was actually coherent and kept on a line of thought without interjecting stories about himself. and maybe practice reading from one

Most of his speeches are like tonight. You just get the carefully edited crap they show on the news for ratings.
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Can I get a tl;dw?

WarGreymon77 posted...

After that State of the Union address--great speech--I don't understand how anyone can hate President Donald Trump.

really

you really don't understand why people hate him?

after everything that's happened so far

Is America great yet?
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TreGooda posted...

Most of his speeches are like tonight. You just get the carefully edited crap they show on the news for ratings.

Don't bother.

They will think you are lying, while living in their own little bubble, and refuse to even watch his speeches.

I am also forgetting the one time Trump did this as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcGbrBtZzTI

Man, that was a surprisingly good speech. Even CNN's write-up on it acknowledged the merits.
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TheWorstPoster posted...

TreGooda posted...

Most of his speeches are like tonight. You just get the carefully edited crap they show on the news for ratings.

Don't bother.

They will think you are lying, while living in their own little bubble, and refuse to even watch his speeches.

I am also forgetting the one time Trump did this as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcGbrBtZzTI

did you know in that speech he makes fun of hillary for reading off of a teleprompter. his speech and mannerisms were quite different tonight, as he was reading off a teleprompter lol
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likehelly posted...

WarGreymon77 posted...

After that State of the Union address--great speech--I don't understand how anyone can hate President Donald Trump.

really

you really don't understand why people hate him?

after everything that's happened so far

No, I do not. I think he's fucking awesome! I love the man.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

TheWorstPoster posted...

TreGooda posted...

Most of his speeches are like tonight. You just get the carefully edited crap they show on the news for ratings.

Don't bother.

They will think you are lying, while living in their own little bubble, and refuse to even watch his speeches.

I am also forgetting the one time Trump did this as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcGbrBtZzTI

did you know in that speech he makes fun of hillary for reading off of a teleprompter. his speech and mannerisms were quite different tonight, as he was reading off a teleprompter lol

Of course he's just gonna ignore it. Ico lives in his own bizarre little world where he constantly berates the people that live just like he does.
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JennyBear posted...

Noop_Noop posted...

Lol Jen. It seems pretty fucking miserable to always assume the worst about people.

What a life.

i mean isn't that what the GOP is doing with any brown skinned immigrants legal or illegal?

Schmen's phrase only doesn't apply if you think of brown skinned immigrants as people.
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Noop_Noop posted...

Bro, NK is a problem. Whether your heart bleeds for its civilians, global safety, or national prosperity we should all be able to agree that NK needs to fucking go

Sure, I think everyone agrees that. So let us know when you come up with a solution that doesn't involve millions of people dying, a humanitarian crisis larger than any the world has seen in the last 100+ years, and the recession that would almost invariably result from the world's 11th-largest economy being taken offline.

Seriously, that's the problem. Everyone recognizes NK is a threat, everyone wants to see the Kims turfed. Even NK's backers in Russia and China now realise they're dealing with a volatile manchild who ultimately can't be controlled. The US absolutely has the capacity to win a war with North Korea and quite easily at that... but not before NK kills millions - potentially tens of millions - on its way out.
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darkknight109 posted...

Even NK's backers in Russia and China now realise they're dealing with a volatile manchild who ultimately can't be controlled.

Sure, but what do they think about Kim Jong Un

Amirite fellas?

High fives all around
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Doctor Foxx posted...

he was good at reading the teleprompter and doing so people would stand and clap

it was a largely inoffensive speech. but nothingburger? that is more like it

Lol you are soooo mad that he didn't fail

OhhhJa posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

he was good at reading the teleprompter and doing so people would stand and clap

it was a largely inoffensive speech. but nothingburger? that is more like it

Lol you are soooo mad that he didn't fail

Nah I'm impressed though jarred at the total change in demeanor. Hopefully he's healthy
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Good lord, ICOYAR is complaining about people living in their own little bubbles...
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OhhhJa posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

he was good at reading the teleprompter and doing so people would stand and clap

it was a largely inoffensive speech. but nothingburger? that is more like it

Lol you are soooo mad that he didn't fail

But of course, they all think that this man was a genius

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc