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The Great Muta 22 01/26/18 11:16:10 AM #103: |
Asherlee10 posted...
darkjedilink posted...What rights have been threatened, again? It's just wild to me that people think "Well I'm not homophobic and I don't see it therefore it's a dead issue and everyone everywhere will treat them equally". This has NEVER been the case. The country has been through a variation of this same damn issue for decades, just change the group being targeted. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 01/26/18 11:16:53 AM #104: |
darkjedilink posted...
Asherlee10 posted...darkjedilink posted...What rights have been threatened, again? Yes, an owner should not be able to discriminate and refuse rental to a homosexual. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 01/26/18 11:17:27 AM #105: |
Steve Nick posted...
What bathroom should a biological male who has a penis but is trying to appear to be a woman go into? Too bad it's about the comfort of the trans individual. Bigoted discomfort gets no consideration. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/26/18 11:18:30 AM #106: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
darkjedilink posted...Asherlee10 posted...darkjedilink posted...What rights have been threatened, again? So, people have no rights to the property they own? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGrindery 01/26/18 11:19:55 AM #107: |
DevsBro posted...
"Who are the LGBT again? Oh, that group that sues all the bakeries." And also bothers old people by asking them about it when they know damn well what they think. It's just bullying via "Say what you're supposed to or we'll fuck with your everything." As much as I hate Duck Dynasty, that was some bullshit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 01/26/18 11:20:10 AM #108: |
darkjedilink posted...
So, people have no rights to the property they own? If they open a business they have to operate under the law. That's how society works. And stop it with the "GOTCHA!" style questions. It's not productive at all. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkman124 01/26/18 11:20:41 AM #109: |
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Solar_Crimson 01/26/18 11:22:08 AM #111: |
Bullet_Wing posted...
You're talking to the guy who literally blames Obama for his wife leaving him. lolwut --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkman124 01/26/18 11:29:17 AM #117: |
Asherlee10 posted...
Perfect image. I still can't figure out where dark was trying to go with that. to the ignore list --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 01/26/18 11:34:12 AM #118: |
Asherlee10 posted...
Exactly. It's great that we (gay people) have got marriage equality, but that doesn't cover everything. What I was trying to get at earlier is, are there any protections you lack that straight people affirmatively have? Obviously scale and likelihood not withstanding, I mean fundamental, under the law, overt and specific protections. Because refusing to rent to a straight person in Texas seems legal too, unless I'm mistaken. *note, I'm just being pedantic, I agree that sexuality should be protected in more cases, specifically with job security and housing.* --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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philsov 01/26/18 11:48:16 AM #119: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
What I was trying to get at earlier is, are there any protections you lack that straight people affirmatively have? Not that I'm aware of. The post marriage issues revolve around things like housing, employment, and adoption*. In all those scenarios it's a lack of overt protection because those decision are due to private individuals and "soft" since there's a bunch of reasons besides sexuality that one may be deemed unworthy. *See: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gay-couple-sues-citizenship-twins_us_5a69a210e4b00228300971f7?section=us_queer-voices Which is hypothetically something a straight yet infertile couple could also encounter, but then again it goes back to the likelihood thing. Outside of surrogacy, international funsies, and citizenship stuff there are some (Christian) adoption agencies that will indeed outright refuse to connect gay couples with potential non-offspring. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 01/26/18 11:49:48 AM #120: |
Bullet_Wing posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...Bullet_Wing posted...You're talking to the guy who literally blames Obama for his wife leaving him. the fuck? --- I got nothing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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medzz 01/26/18 11:51:20 AM #121: |
And they thought the demands would stop at "equal marriage"
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philsov 01/26/18 11:56:09 AM #124: |
Asherlee10 posted...
Gay people are not a protected class in Texas. Yes, but neither are straight people. A straight person can also be denied insurance/housing because of their orientation. The only difference is straight discrimination is hypothetical and gay discrimination occurs. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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medzz 01/26/18 11:58:29 AM #125: |
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medzz posted...And they thought the demands would stop at "equal marriage" Give me a right they are denied and I will tell you my opinion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CookieMarvin 01/26/18 12:27:58 PM #129: |
Dark_Spiret posted...
having the constant PC culture being shoved down peoples throats now im sure doesnt help. tolerance is making me intolerant is the worst manifestation of contrarianism --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruelBuffalo 01/26/18 12:40:42 PM #130: |
Didnt read the topic but Im guess people are inferring stupid positions off a survey that seems to be within the margin of error of the other years. Am I right?
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philsov 01/26/18 12:48:28 PM #131: |
CruelBuffalo posted...
Didnt read the topic but Im guess people are inferring stupid positions off a survey that seems to be within the margin of error of the other years. Am I right? No, people are inferring stupid positions because of boogeymen and hardly addressing the topic at hand. Welcome to CE, enjoy your stay <3 But, yes. http://www.glaad.org/files/aa/Accelerating%20Acceptance%202018.pdf 2-3% increase in straight person discomfort when confronted with the reality that LTBQG people have professional jobs, hold hands in public, and may even be within their own family. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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glitteringfairy 01/26/18 1:27:15 PM #132: |
People just went ham with the SJW shit.
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LinksLiege 01/26/18 1:29:06 PM #133: |
philsov posted...
2-3% increase in straight person discomfort when confronted with the reality that LTBQG people have professional jobs, hold hands in public, and may even be within their own family. Straight people sound like a bunch of babies. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 01/26/18 1:32:36 PM #134: |
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philsov posted...2-3% increase in straight person discomfort when confronted with the reality that LTBQG people have professional jobs, hold hands in public, and may even be within their own family. To be honest, it's been par the course with the ruling powers through history. In the US, we had period where Black people and other racial minorities didn't have basic rights (White people and Black people couldn't even legally marry, and let's not forget how White men flipped their shit if they saw a White woman with a Black man: see Emmet Till), and where women couldn't even vote or hold decent jobs, and the men in charge fought tooth-and-nail for as long as they could to keep things that way. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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philsov 01/26/18 1:45:33 PM #135: |
LinksLiege posted...
philsov posted...2-3% increase in straight person discomfort when confronted with the reality that LTBQG people have professional jobs, hold hands in public, and may even be within their own family. 31% feel uncomfortable with the idea that their child's teacher is gay, yes. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrojanPony 01/26/18 2:24:31 PM #136: |
philsov posted...
LinksLiege posted...philsov posted...2-3% increase in straight person discomfort when confronted with the reality that LTBQG people have professional jobs, hold hands in public, and may even be within their own family. 31% of how many people interviewed in what part of America? --- "GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site." - CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGrindery 01/26/18 4:04:31 PM #137: |
TheGrindery posted...
DevsBro posted..."Who are the LGBT again? Oh, that group that sues all the bakeries." Nobody else share this point of view? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-Henri 01/26/18 4:15:55 PM #138: |
Nomadic View posted...
UncleBourbon33 posted...SJWs have hurt the gay cause more than they've helped. This. I would also argue that the massive push for the "T and beyond" part of the movement has something to do with this as well. Advocacy for children transitioning, 101 genders and grown men in drag using female washrooms. This insane crap and identity bull is why I think the LGB and the gender insanity or what not should be split as one deals with acceptance of a sexual preference and the other deals with mental health and personal identity issues. --- hey hey you you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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QueenCarly 01/26/18 4:17:19 PM #139: |
darkjedilink posted...
QueenCarly posted...darkjedilink posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...darkjedilink posted...Businesses have a right to refuse service for any reason. I specifically meant private property. Personal property is a different thing altogether. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/26/18 4:21:54 PM #140: |
QueenCarly posted...
darkjedilink posted...QueenCarly posted...darkjedilink posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...darkjedilink posted...Businesses have a right to refuse service for any reason. No, it isn't. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinksLiege 01/26/18 4:31:06 PM #141: |
-Henri posted...
"T and beyond" This tactic within the LGBT community irritates me. Specific groups pretend anything less than explicit inclusion is explicit exclusion, which is stupid. I advocate changing the initialism to GSD, Gender and Sexual Diversity. Boom - everything is covered, it never needs to be altered, and people can finally shut the fuck up about it. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JustMonika 01/26/18 4:32:13 PM #142: |
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s0nicfan 01/26/18 4:36:45 PM #143: |
I would love to see this exact same study done, but split so that people are asked about comfort of gay men, comfort of lesbians, comfort of trans people, and comfort of nonbinary people. I'm willing to bet the increase in discomfort has nothing to do with the "LGB" part, but since it's all bundled you can't tell for sure.
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darkphoenix181 01/26/18 4:58:38 PM #144: |
probably doesn't help that alot of the crazy feminists on tumblr have a certain look that most would assume means they are lesbian
also the idea of men being obsolete going across media and gaining traction in big disney movies might have them question "hmm, where is this coming from?" and possibly conclude it is related to transexuality or lesbianism --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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philsov 01/26/18 5:08:51 PM #145: |
TrojanPony posted...
31% of how many people interviewed in what part of America? About 2000 from all over. It's a harris poll; see my previous link. But, then again about 21% of respondents think TGBLQ people don't deserve equal rights so I expect that exact same sect would be uncomfortable interacting with them in any capacity, so there's a 10-15% margin of people who are still coming to terms with "I want them to be gay in general, but do they really have to be my friends, family, and neighbors? Can't they just be gay somewhere else?" --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 01/26/18 5:09:48 PM #146: |
philsov posted...
TrojanPony posted...31% of how many people interviewed in what part of America? Why did you put the T first? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruelBuffalo 01/26/18 5:09:48 PM #147: |
Again... a 2-3% increase seems to be within margin of error... so you cant really claim its on the rise.
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darkphoenix181 01/26/18 5:10:50 PM #148: |
s0nicfan posted...
philsov posted...TrojanPony posted...31% of how many people interviewed in what part of America? BLTGQ --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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philsov 01/26/18 5:11:44 PM #149: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
BLTGQ Bacon lettuce tomato guac queso --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 01/26/18 5:12:09 PM #150: |
philsov posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...BLTGQ I imagined the sexiest looking BLT ever on the cover of GQ --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 01/26/18 5:40:29 PM #151: |
philsov posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...BLTGQ delicious --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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QueenCarly 01/26/18 7:18:57 PM #152: |
darkjedilink posted...
QueenCarly posted...darkjedilink posted...QueenCarly posted...darkjedilink posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...darkjedilink posted...Businesses have a right to refuse service for any reason. They definitely are. "Private property and ownership, in this context, means ownership of the means of production, not personal possessions). To many socialists, the term private property refers to capital or the means of production, while personal property refers to consumer and non-capital goods and services." --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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