Current Events > Support for LGBT people have declined in the US.

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Please stop responding to DJL
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QueenCarly posted...

darkjedilink posted...

QueenCarly posted...

darkjedilink posted...

QueenCarly posted...

darkjedilink posted...

So, property rights don't exist?

They shouldn't.

So, you legitimately believe this, right? And therefore own nothing?

I specifically meant private property.

Personal property is a different thing altogether.

No, it isn't.

They definitely are.

"Private property and ownership, in this context, means ownership of the means of production, not personal possessions). To many socialists, the term private property refers to capital or the means of production, while personal property refers to consumer and non-capital goods and services."

Socialism is a joke, and so is anyone who uses it to make a point about a capitalist economy.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

Please stop responding to DJL

It's fucking amazing how obvious bait can be and people still fall for it.
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I say this as a non-hetero person myself,

No one is entitled to demand that everyone else around them must feel "comfortable" in their presence.

There is no such thing as the right to not be offended.

Polls about comfort levels... it's ridiculous. This is not an issue.

If people aren't comfortable around you, guess what, you can't force them to be. Move on. Find someone else to associate with.
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LinksLiege posted...

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Please stop responding to DJL

It's fucking amazing how obvious bait can be and people still fall for it.

Or they enjoy arguing and reply anyway, despite realizing it's bait. This is on par with assuming someone didn't get the joke because they didn't laugh. Suppose it just wasn't seen as funny?

philsov posted...

TrojanPony posted...

31% of how many people interviewed in what part of America?

About 2000 from all over. It's a harris poll; see my previous link.

But, then again about 21% of respondents think TGBLQ people don't deserve equal rights so I expect that exact same sect would be uncomfortable interacting with them in any capacity, so there's a 10-15% margin of people who are still coming to terms with "I want them to be gay in general, but do they really have to be my friends, family, and neighbors? Can't they just be gay somewhere else?"

So a mere 620 people represent THE ENTIRE PLANET? Let's just pull up the ISIS, Taliban, and Al Qaeda opinion polls shall we? Oh wait, you can't judge an entire religion by a few bad eggs. :V
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TrojanPony posted...

philsov posted...

TrojanPony posted...

31% of how many people interviewed in what part of America?

About 2000 from all over. It's a harris poll; see my previous link.

But, then again about 21% of respondents think TGBLQ people don't deserve equal rights so I expect that exact same sect would be uncomfortable interacting with them in any capacity, so there's a 10-15% margin of people who are still coming to terms with "I want them to be gay in general, but do they really have to be my friends, family, and neighbors? Can't they just be gay somewhere else?"

So a mere 620 people represent THE ENTIRE PLANET? Let's just pull up the ISIS, Taliban, and Al Qaeda opinion polls shall we? Oh wait, you can't judge an entire religion by a few bad eggs. :V

Why do these old accounts just post all this dumb shit constantly?
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...

thanosibe posted...

daftpunk_mk5 posted...

Like what happened at Planet Fitness. A fully anatomical dude went into the women's locker room, made a lot of women uncomfortable, and when one of them complain, the gym just cancelled her membership. Stuff like that will piss a lot of people off.

Is that not like reasonable? Not the cancelling of her membership but women feeling uncomfortable. I mean if you're older than like 4 and not with your mom but you have a dick maybe not go in the women's room? I dunno.

They banned the lady who complained

She complained through continual harassment. It wasn't anything like a single complaint. She actively sought to shame the individual and warn other people at the facility of this individual. It was fair game for her to make a complaint, nut she took it way too far.

Planet Fitness is also a chain of gyms that caters to the ultra left wing. They take harassment in their facilities very seriously.
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So the study is too broad then, they need to limit it to LGB.
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I think the straw that is changing the tide is the forcing of kids to be trans or pretending like a kid would even know that before puberty.

There's a wait in this country where you can't do a lot of things till you're 18. That has to be one of them. Sorry.
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lilJoe457 posted...

I think the straw that is changing the tide is the forcing of kids to be trans or pretending like a kid would even know that before puberty.

There's a wait in this country where you can't do a lot of things till you're 18. That has to be one of them. Sorry.

That's actually to protect kids from abusive parents who force things like that on their kids.
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Funbazooka posted...

I say this as a non-hetero person myself,

No one is entitled to demand that everyone else around them must feel "comfortable" in their presence.

There is no such thing as the right to not be offended.

Polls about comfort levels... it's ridiculous. This is not an issue.

If people aren't comfortable around you, guess what, you can't force them to be. Move on. Find someone else to associate with.

But that requires people to have some actual agency over their lives and associations. We can't have that, because reasons.
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lilJoe457 posted...

I think the straw that is changing the tide is the forcing of kids to be trans or pretending like a kid would even know that before puberty.

There's a wait in this country where you can't do a lot of things till you're 18. That has to be one of them. Sorry.

Children have a grasp on their gender by ages 3-5. Puberty is irrelevant for someone knowing if they are trans or not.

Ideally, trans people are given access to puberty blockers until they are more able to go through HRT and other steps.
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