Current Events > Jim and Pam are actually the least likeable characters on The Office.

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EffectAndCause
01/24/18 10:14:32 PM
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Their mentality is pretty much everyone is weird but me.
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Lathissamus
01/24/18 10:15:27 PM
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thronedfire2
01/24/18 10:15:34 PM
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other than Stanley and Phyllis their other coworkers were weird as fuck
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EffectAndCause
01/24/18 10:18:04 PM
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Plus Jim as manager always came off as incredibly condescending.
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cjsdowg
01/24/18 10:18:23 PM
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It is Micheal and Jim. Micheal is just a horrible human. Between Scott Tots and the White elephant Christmas episode there is nothing redeemable about the character.

Lathissamus posted...
Phyllis, Creed, and Ryan exist


Why do you dislike Phyllis
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EffectAndCause
01/24/18 10:19:25 PM
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Michael genuinely wanted to pay for those kids college tuition, he is just an idiot who thought hed be a millionaire 10 years later.
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cjsdowg
01/24/18 10:21:32 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
Michael genuinely wanted to pay for those kids college tuition, he is just an idiot who thought hed be a millionaire 10 years later.


He should have said something .. and it is not like he said it 10 years ago and was it. He literally got into their lives as if he was someone who would live up to his promise. You know that one was so horrible people can't watch it lol.
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XxKrazyChaosxX
01/24/18 10:21:40 PM
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Don't forget, Jim screwed up Pam's relationship/engagement with another guy so he could be with her.
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CelestialVoices
01/24/18 10:21:56 PM
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jim halpert is just a jock who likes to bully the kid with ass burgers
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cjsdowg
01/24/18 10:22:21 PM
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XxKrazyChaosxX posted...
Don't forget Jim screw up Pam's relationship/engagement with another guy so he could be with her.


And than had to be saved by Dwight . lol
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rashidajonesacc
01/24/18 10:22:37 PM
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Andy/Angela
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Schwarber
01/24/18 10:22:50 PM
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Definitely Nellie. If she doesn't count Erin's stupidity is pretty grating. If SHE doesn't count it's Andy, I guess.
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EffectAndCause
01/24/18 10:23:47 PM
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Plus lets not forger the Koi Pond episode where Jim allowed Michael to fall into the Koi Pond just because David Wallace insisted Michael go along for the sale because he didnt trust Jim could handle it on his own.
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Balrog0
01/24/18 10:24:06 PM
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Schwarber posted...
Definitely Nellie. If she doesn't count Erin's stupidity is pretty grating. If SHE doesn't count it's Andy, I guess.


All the additional characters are < the originals
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ShiningBlade1
01/24/18 10:24:18 PM
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Schwarber posted...
Definitely Nellie. If she doesn't count Erin's stupidity is pretty grating. If SHE doesn't count it's Andy, I guess.


Fuck Nellie. Erin is super cute so I give her a pass. I really want to like Andy but he is pretty annoying
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Veggeta_MAX
01/24/18 10:24:32 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
Their mentality is pretty much everyone is weird but me.

Except that one episode where they found a daycare for their kid and the dude made them the weird one.
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EffectAndCause
01/24/18 10:26:11 PM
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Plus Pam basically cucked Karen and stole Jim with her whole beach speech.
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TommyG663513
01/24/18 10:26:42 PM
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The whole cast is pretty terrible really. It's why parks n' rec was so much better. That cast was actually likable.
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Veggeta_MAX
01/24/18 10:26:58 PM
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I can't believe the damn show convinced so many people that Pam was actually hot.
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Schwarber
01/24/18 10:27:00 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
Schwarber posted...
Definitely Nellie. If she doesn't count Erin's stupidity is pretty grating. If SHE doesn't count it's Andy, I guess.


All the additional characters are < the originals


True. Original cast it'd have to be Phyllis.
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PiOverlord
01/24/18 10:27:47 PM
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I don't really see what is so terrible about Jim and Pam.
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TheCurseX2
01/24/18 10:29:10 PM
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Can we at least agree that the most underrated is Kevin? A lot of people when it comes to the weird side of the cast always champion Creed, but Kevin was gold.
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TheCurseX2
01/24/18 10:30:26 PM
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PiOverlord posted...
I don't really see what is so terrible about Jim and Pam.


I mean, Jim did knowingly homewreck an engagement and Pam always seemed like a bit of a bitch. I didn't even see her as attractive and Jim ruined a good thing with Karen who was superior in every way.
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jpenny2
01/24/18 10:30:32 PM
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I find Jim and Pam likable through the first couple seasons, but they become worse and worse as the series goes on. It's only made worse by the fact that the show thinks you should like them.
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Veggeta_MAX
01/24/18 10:31:39 PM
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jpenny2 posted...
It's only made worse by the fact that the show thinks you should like them.

This. They weren't very nice people. They were definitely douchebags.
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EffectAndCause
01/24/18 10:32:06 PM
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Plus Pam and Jim originally liked to mock people who were cliche and predictable...and ended up becoming the most cliche, predictable and basic couple in the show.
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DevsBro
01/24/18 10:32:57 PM
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TheCurseX2 posted...
Can we at least agree that the most underrated is Kevin? A lot of people when it comes to the weird side of the cast always champion Creed, but Kevin was gold.

Kevin never failed to at least make me chuckle. Even when it was just his face in the background somewhere. That actor is a freaking genius.
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Joelypoely
01/24/18 10:33:13 PM
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Michael's antics + the Jim and Dwight dynamic give the Office most of its comedy brilliance.
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cjsdowg
01/24/18 10:33:16 PM
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PiOverlord posted...
I don't really see what is so terrible about Jim and Pam.


Mean the people around them.
Jim got his girlfriend to movie this his town, then complain when she moved to house to close to him and then lied about him and Pam with here.
Jim Made Andy go crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLiqJ8-T75A


In almost any other show the evil Becky would have been the person doing that.
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PiOverlord
01/24/18 10:34:51 PM
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I mean, humans are a little selfish. Jim did something that was selfish, but it takes two to tango, and Pam's relationship with Roy was not that healthy. If anything, he saved both Roy and Pam a future with a messy divorce.

Also, when you have feelings for someone, it is really hard to "objectively" judge others. Even if Karen is better than Pam in every single way, his long-lasting, strong feelings he had for Pam is going to cloud his judgement.

I mean, the truth is, many of you guys are Jims and Pams in many ways, even if you want to believe you are not.
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EffectAndCause
01/24/18 10:37:00 PM
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Plus the only times Jim and Pam were ever nice to Michael is when they needed to take advantage of his position for their own benefit, theyre really no better than Ryan in that aspect.
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xMythic
01/24/18 10:48:08 PM
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They became pretty insufferable and definitely had their moment after season 3 but I never found them unlikable.

The only characters I found to be unlikable were Andy in S3 (prior to his trip to anger management) and then again after they ruined his character in S9, Ryan in S4, and Nellie after she took Andy's job.
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The Admiral
01/24/18 10:54:19 PM
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Jim and Pam were objectively assholes. Jim knowingly made out with a woman who was engaged and ditched his girlfriend in NYC to be with another woman. Pam cheated on her fiance and had no remorse about doing so. And yet, somehow, both are supposed to be the heroes of that story.
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xMythic
01/24/18 11:17:55 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Jim and Pam were objectively assholes. Jim knowingly made out with a woman who was engaged and ditched his girlfriend in NYC to be with another woman. Pam cheated on her fiance and had no remorse about doing so. And yet, somehow, both are supposed to be the heroes of that story.

Yeah, what Jim did to Karen was really messed up. I always thought it was odd how he wasn't called out for such a shitty move.
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Vyrulisse
01/24/18 11:19:20 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
I can't believe the damn show convinced so many people that Pam was actually hot.

If you surround a normal 6 with a bunch of 3's she bumps up to at least an 8. It's Science.
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