Current Events > 39 year old Father is being deported after living in United States for 30 years.

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KingCrabCake
01/17/18 8:37:07 PM
#154:


Conflict posted...
I like how the dunderheads itt repeatedly spout "he's a CRIMINAL" and "the law is the law" as if it's completely unheard of for a law to be shitty. I already know how you chucklefucks would be acting during the Civil Rights era


Not really the same. Its a dumb law but he did little (obviously) to become a citizen
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StarKnight23
01/17/18 8:39:34 PM
#155:


Why didn't Obama make this man a citizen?
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KingCrabCake
01/17/18 8:55:33 PM
#156:


StarKnight23 posted...
Why didn't Obama make this man a citizen?

Was too busy bombing kids in the middle east, sending representatives to a thug's funeral, & would have deported him anyway
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Roxborough4Ever
01/17/18 8:56:43 PM
#157:


Conflict posted...
I like how the dunderheads itt repeatedly spout "he's a CRIMINAL" and "the law is the law" as if it's completely unheard of for a law to be shitty. I already know how you chucklefucks would be acting during the Civil Rights era


just more of your own racist assumptions from your own mind.....its all in your head.....your totally a "look at me! look at me! look at me!"....just shut the fuck up, you dont know shit
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southcoast09
01/17/18 8:57:52 PM
#158:


Sounds like he thought the rules didn't apply to him.
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Roxborough4Ever
01/17/18 8:59:01 PM
#159:


southcoast09 posted...
Sounds like he thought the rules didn't apply to him.


but yet the people who want the law applied are 'racist'
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AlecSkorpio
01/17/18 8:59:08 PM
#160:


I'm really confused

My friends mom (a Mexican immigrant) literally just took a class at a library for like two or three months and then took the test and was able to become a citizen no problem like 10 years ago.

Did they change something or what?
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MrBobGray
01/17/18 9:00:57 PM
#161:


Conflict posted...
I like how the dunderheads itt repeatedly spout "he's a CRIMINAL" and "the law is the law" as if it's completely unheard of for a law to be shitty. I already know how you chucklefucks would be acting during the Civil Rights era


He didnt do a god damned thing after numerous notifications to do so. Fuck him. He deserves to be in Mexico.
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Roxborough4Ever
01/17/18 9:01:36 PM
#162:


MrBobGray posted...
Conflict posted...
I like how the dunderheads itt repeatedly spout "he's a CRIMINAL" and "the law is the law" as if it's completely unheard of for a law to be shitty. I already know how you chucklefucks would be acting during the Civil Rights era


He didnt do a god damned thing after numerous notifications to do so. Fuck him. He deserves to be in Mexico.


no, dude, you are just a racist who likes TRUMP...........
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Looked gf
01/17/18 9:01:45 PM
#163:


BlackHorse6969 posted...
adios amigo

ok I lol'd
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MrBobGray
01/17/18 9:03:13 PM
#164:


Roxborough4Ever posted...
MrBobGray posted...
Conflict posted...
I like how the dunderheads itt repeatedly spout "he's a CRIMINAL" and "the law is the law" as if it's completely unheard of for a law to be shitty. I already know how you chucklefucks would be acting during the Civil Rights era


He didnt do a god damned thing after numerous notifications to do so. Fuck him. He deserves to be in Mexico.


no, dude, you are just a racist who likes TRUMP...........


I fucking hate Trump. Your sarcasm noted, this has nothing to do with who I voted for. This lazy asshole did nothing to guarantee his position here with his legal family. Its like he decided our laws dont apply to him or his douchebag haircut. So fuck him. He wont be playing my emotions.
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Rob Cesternino
01/17/18 9:07:20 PM
#165:


I'm sure he'll be able to enjoy some good tacos in Mexico.
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DarkChozoGhost
01/17/18 9:08:12 PM
#166:


The Admiral posted...
Why couldn't be find a legal means to stay if he had been looking for 9 years?

Because the US immigration system is a very convoluted process. It takes longer than 10 years on average
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KingCrabCake
01/17/18 9:09:28 PM
#167:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
The Admiral posted...
Why couldn't be find a legal means to stay if he had been looking for 9 years?

Because the US immigration system is a very convoluted process. It takes longer than 10 years on average

Well he had 30
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AlecSkorpio
01/17/18 9:11:07 PM
#168:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
Because the US immigration system is a very convoluted process. It takes longer than 10 years on average


Source?

I'm not being shitty, I just really want to know because my friends mom made it seem like it took six months to a year at most.
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Dragonblade01
01/17/18 9:11:28 PM
#169:


The laws should get a once-over or two.
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MrBobGray
01/17/18 9:12:06 PM
#170:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
The Admiral posted...
Why couldn't be find a legal means to stay if he had been looking for 9 years?

Because the US immigration system is a very convoluted process. It takes longer than 10 years on average


No it doesnt, lol.
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DarkChozoGhost
01/17/18 9:17:29 PM
#171:


MrBobGray posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
The Admiral posted...
Why couldn't be find a legal means to stay if he had been looking for 9 years?

Because the US immigration system is a very convoluted process. It takes longer than 10 years on average


No it doesnt, lol.

Despite what Fox News tells you, yes, it does.

AlecSkorpio posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
Because the US immigration system is a very convoluted process. It takes longer than 10 years on average


Source?

I'm not being shitty, I just really want to know because my friends mom made it seem like it took six months to a year at most.


https://www.us-immigration.com/us-immigration-news/us-immigration/how-long-does-it-take-for-an-immigrant-to-legally-come-to-the-united-states/
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legendary_zell
01/17/18 9:49:44 PM
#172:


As an immigrant who hasn't been to my home country in over 20 years, my thoughts on the people defending this would earn me my second ever moderation. The immigration system in America is fucked. My aunt works for the immigration agency in Nigeria and it took her several years just to get a VISA to visit us for a summer. It takes years to do anything under this system and when you are here without some random papers, there is a constant threat that you will be separated from your family and sent to a country you have no relationship with.

Just because something is a law doesn't mean it makes sense, makes people safer, or is just. Violating that law is certainly no basis to fucking cheer on draconian consequences.

Someone's homeland is not determined by where they were born. It's about where they are a citizen in all meaningful senses. This guy is an American in every meaningful way, he was simply not lucky enough to have that immense privilege handed to him at birth like most of the people cheering this did. This guy did absolutely nothing wrong and none of you would have done anything different in his situation. If a law is punishing good people and bad people alike for purely formalistic reasons, then it's a garbage law that should be attacked, not defended.

It's disgusting to see people who have never had to interact with the beast that is the immigration system make glib statements about it. It's disgusting that so many of you lack empathy to the point that you would defend this or even joke about it.
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Unquestionable
01/17/18 9:53:10 PM
#173:


legendary_zell posted...
It's disgusting to see people who have never had to interact with the beast that is the immigration system make glib statements about it. It's disgusting that so many of you lack empathy to the point that you would defend this or even joke about it.


Keep in mind that the posters saying this are also the same people who 60 years ago would be saying "Well if we treated the blacks as equals who would we get to do the cheap labor?". Just do what I do and tag them so you can keep track of the closet racists.
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nemu
01/17/18 9:58:28 PM
#174:


On a personal level, I feel bad for the guy, but this is just a pity story to push a narrative. The people running the story couldn't actually care less. We have laws, and those laws need to be enforced. There's probably a better way to handle cases like this, and there are probably of plenty of cases that should have higher priority. At the end of the day, he's here illegally and has seemingly not taken the proper steps in two decades, so it's his fault in the end. If we feel bad for every single individual case, the problem will never be solved.
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1500
01/17/18 9:59:57 PM
#175:


I don't know why this is even up for debate.

He came in the United States illegally. He should've known that before getting married and having children

he broke the law by coming in the USA illegally. It's the LAW, and he broke the law. All ICE is doing is enforcing the law.

He can always reunite with his wife and kids in Mexico so it's not like they are breaking the family apart.
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samurai bandit
01/17/18 10:00:08 PM
#176:


The Admiral posted...
Why couldn't be find a legal means to stay if he had been looking for 9 years?

Because as opposed to what Trump says, it is actually hard to get legal migration status. Of course he still blames legal immigrants for the problems and for "stealing" jobs anyway
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1500
01/17/18 10:03:13 PM
#177:


legendary_zell posted...
As an immigrant who hasn't been to my home country in over 20 years, my thoughts on the people defending this would earn me my second ever moderation. The immigration system in America is fucked. My aunt works for the immigration agency in Nigeria and it took her several years just to get a VISA to visit us for a summer. It takes years to do anything under this system and when you are here without some random papers, there is a constant threat that you will be separated from your family and sent to a country you have no relationship with.

Just because something is a law doesn't mean it makes sense, makes people safer, or is just. Violating that law is certainly no basis to fucking cheer on draconian consequences.

Someone's homeland is not determined by where they were born. It's about where they are a citizen in all meaningful senses. This guy is an American in every meaningful way, he was simply not lucky enough to have that immense privilege handed to him at birth like most of the people cheering this did. This guy did absolutely nothing wrong and none of you would have done anything different in his situation. If a law is punishing good people and bad people alike for purely formalistic reasons, then it's a garbage law that should be attacked, not defended.

It's disgusting to see people who have never had to interact with the beast that is the immigration system make glib statements about it. It's disgusting that so many of you lack empathy to the point that you would defend this or even joke about it.


except he broke the law by entering the united states illegally. If he wanted citizenship, he should've just applied for a green card like every body else.

I was born in the philippines and emigrated to the united states when i was 4 years old. My parents had to wait 5-6 years to get their visa to come here. After 10 years of staying here, i became a naturalized citizen. it's unfair for a former immigrant such as myself who had to wait a long time to get his visa whereas there are people entering the country illegally. It's a slap in the face from someone who had to wait to get their visa.
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OctilIery
01/17/18 10:03:38 PM
#178:


The Admiral posted...
Why couldn't be find a legal means to stay if he had been looking for 9 years?

There are almost no options to become a legal resident without leaving the country for the duration. Military is the only one I know of.
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MrBobGray
01/17/18 10:04:36 PM
#179:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
MrBobGray posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
The Admiral posted...
Why couldn't be find a legal means to stay if he had been looking for 9 years?

Because the US immigration system is a very convoluted process. It takes longer than 10 years on average


No it doesnt, lol.

Despite what Fox News tells you, yes, it does.

AlecSkorpio posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
Because the US immigration system is a very convoluted process. It takes longer than 10 years on average


Source?

I'm not being shitty, I just really want to know because my friends mom made it seem like it took six months to a year at most.


https://www.us-immigration.com/us-immigration-news/us-immigration/how-long-does-it-take-for-an-immigrant-to-legally-come-to-the-united-states/


I dont watch Fox News, so drop your ignorant fucking accusations.
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Unquestionable
01/17/18 10:16:16 PM
#180:


MrBobGray posted...
I dont watch Fox News, so drop your ignorant fucking accusations.


To be fair you started it by throwing out your lack of knowledge of the immigration system to bandwagon with posters with questionable racial views.
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legendary_zell
01/17/18 10:17:31 PM
#181:


1500 posted...
legendary_zell posted...
As an immigrant who hasn't been to my home country in over 20 years, my thoughts on the people defending this would earn me my second ever moderation. The immigration system in America is fucked. My aunt works for the immigration agency in Nigeria and it took her several years just to get a VISA to visit us for a summer. It takes years to do anything under this system and when you are here without some random papers, there is a constant threat that you will be separated from your family and sent to a country you have no relationship with.

Just because something is a law doesn't mean it makes sense, makes people safer, or is just. Violating that law is certainly no basis to fucking cheer on draconian consequences.

Someone's homeland is not determined by where they were born. It's about where they are a citizen in all meaningful senses. This guy is an American in every meaningful way, he was simply not lucky enough to have that immense privilege handed to him at birth like most of the people cheering this did. This guy did absolutely nothing wrong and none of you would have done anything different in his situation. If a law is punishing good people and bad people alike for purely formalistic reasons, then it's a garbage law that should be attacked, not defended.

It's disgusting to see people who have never had to interact with the beast that is the immigration system make glib statements about it. It's disgusting that so many of you lack empathy to the point that you would defend this or even joke about it.


except he broke the law by entering the united states illegally. If he wanted citizenship, he should've just applied for a green card like every body else.

I was born in the philippines and emigrated to the united states when i was 4 years old. My parents had to wait 5-6 years to get their visa to come here. After 10 years of staying here, i became a naturalized citizen. it's unfair for a former immigrant such as myself who had to wait a long time to get his visa whereas there are people entering the country illegally. It's a slap in the face from someone who had to wait to get their visa.


He didn't do anything other than stay in his country. He was brought here as a minor and this place is home to him. Are you suggesting that he should have voluntarily left to go to a country he had no relationship with? I'm an immigrant and I had to wait a while to be legalized too, nothing about that experience leads me to believe that makes sense. This guy being kicked out is a slap in the face for justice and fairness. I'm not trying to invalidate your experience or tell you that you don't have the right to feel angry with people who voluntarily jump the line while you had to wait. But this guy didn't do that.

Moreover, you keep repeating that it's the law that this guy had to be deported like that's the be all end all. The law itself is corrupt as it has been throughout American history. A rule being on the books does not mean its worth the paper it's printed on. It can still be unjust and worthy of being disregarded in certain circumstances. Using the law as a reason why you MUST take certain unjust actions is a dark dark pathway as has been proven over and over.
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BeantownHero
01/17/18 10:21:59 PM
#182:


Many in this country have more sympathy for old Nazis facing justice than they do for lifelong immigrants being deported smfh
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AlephZero
01/17/18 10:24:35 PM
#183:


open the borders anyone who wants to can come in
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Offworlder1
01/17/18 10:26:49 PM
#184:


He had atleast 2 decades to become a legal citizen but did not, sounds like he was not trying very hard.
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Giant_Aspirin
01/17/18 10:26:52 PM
#185:


based on what i read in the first page, i certainly hope @HypnoCoosh doesn't break a single law, under any circumstances, for any reason, ever. because, after all, he dearly believes in a strict following of the law, to the letter, with absolutely zero exceptions. under no circumstances should any law, regardless of intent or application to the current situation, ever be broken.

i bet he literally never speeds (even 1MPH over when literally nobody else is around, because that's illegal), never jaywalks and most certainly doesn't spit on the sidewalk. and, depending on the state he's in, he may not even engage in sodomy, which includes oral sex in some cases, because dammit, that's the letter of the law and it must be obeyed.
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Waluigi7
01/17/18 10:29:07 PM
#186:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
based on what i read in the first page, i certainly hope @HypnoCoosh doesn't break a single law, under any circumstances, for any reason, ever. because, after all, he dearly believes in a strict following of the law, to the letter, with absolutely zero exceptions. under no circumstances should any law, regardless of intent or application to the current situation, ever be broken.

i bet he literally never speeds, never jaywalks and most certainly doesn't spit on the sidewalk. and, depending on the state he's in, he may not even engage in sodomy, which includes oral sex in some cases.

He's a troll.
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legendary_zell
01/17/18 10:29:35 PM
#187:


BeantownHero posted...
Many in this country have more sympathy for old Nazis facing justice than they do for lifelong immigrants being deported smfh


Giant_Aspirin posted...
based on what i read in the first page, i certainly hope @HypnoCoosh doesn't break a single law, under any circumstances, for any reason, ever. because, after all, he dearly believes in a strict following of the law, to the letter, with absolutely zero exceptions. under no circumstances should any law, regardless of intent or application to the current situation, ever be broken.

i bet he literally never speeds, never jaywalks and most certainly doesn't spit on the sidewalk. and, depending on the state he's in, he may not even engage in sodomy, which includes oral sex in some cases.


I hope he's never so much as streamed an episode of Sailor Moon from a streaming site.
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Giant_Aspirin
01/17/18 10:30:42 PM
#188:


Waluigi7 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
based on what i read in the first page, i certainly hope @HypnoCoosh doesn't break a single law, under any circumstances, for any reason, ever. because, after all, he dearly believes in a strict following of the law, to the letter, with absolutely zero exceptions. under no circumstances should any law, regardless of intent or application to the current situation, ever be broken.

i bet he literally never speeds, never jaywalks and most certainly doesn't spit on the sidewalk. and, depending on the state he's in, he may not even engage in sodomy, which includes oral sex in some cases.

He's a troll.


yeah i know, i just like poking fun at him when he acts like this
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legendary_zell
01/17/18 10:31:20 PM
#189:


This is a great topic to see who substitutes archaic and discriminatory laws for their moral compass or even their basic humanity.
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CEs_EFG
01/17/18 10:32:46 PM
#190:


if you're married to a Citizen it takes like a year to get residency idk wtf he was doing
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01/17/18 10:32:57 PM
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CEs_EFG
01/17/18 10:33:51 PM
#192:


legendary_zell posted...
He didn't do anything other than stay in his country. He was brought here as a minor and this place is home to him. Are you suggesting that he should have voluntarily left to go to a country he had no relationship with? I'm an immigrant and I had to wait a while to be legalized too, nothing about that experience leads me to believe that makes sense. This guy being kicked out is a slap in the face for justice and fairness. I'm not trying to invalidate your experience or tell you that you don't have the right to feel angry with people who voluntarily jump the line while you had to wait. But this guy didn't do that.

Moreover, you keep repeating that it's the law that this guy had to be deported like that's the be all end all. The law itself is corrupt as it has been throughout American history. A rule being on the books does not mean its worth the paper it's printed on. It can still be unjust and worthy of being disregarded in certain circumstances. Using the law as a reason why you MUST take certain unjust actions is a dark dark pathway as has been proven over and over.


also this guy is doing nothing but tugging at feelings
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Offworlder1
01/17/18 10:35:13 PM
#193:


@CEs_EFG

Yup, and he had 20 years to get this done but instead did jack shit and is being deported, sounds like a case of fair next.
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Rika_Furude
01/17/18 10:35:57 PM
#194:


So why couldnt he obtain legal status in 30 years?
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50Blessings
01/17/18 10:45:16 PM
#195:


https://www.roadtostatus.com/long-take-become-u-s-citizen/
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CEs_EFG
01/17/18 10:52:29 PM
#196:


50Blessings posted...
https://www.roadtostatus.com/long-take-become-u-s-citizen/


i was talking about residency though, residency means he can stay here as long as he wants bruh
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smoliske
01/17/18 10:55:34 PM
#197:


he should have thought about this possibility before he came here illegally

now he has no choice but to immigrate the right way
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Questionmarktarius
01/17/18 10:57:39 PM
#199:


HypnoCoosh posted...
So he had 30 years to become a legal citizen?

About eleven of which were after he was told to leave.
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Zeus
01/17/18 10:57:43 PM
#200:


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DarkChozoGhost
01/18/18 12:26:24 AM
#201:


MrBobGray posted...
I dont watch Fox News, so drop your ignorant fucking accusations.

Well then, what's the source that led you to believe that lie?
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ChromaticAngel
01/18/18 12:51:22 AM
#202:


AlecSkorpio posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
Because the US immigration system is a very convoluted process. It takes longer than 10 years on average


Source?

I'm not being shitty, I just really want to know because my friends mom made it seem like it took six months to a year at most.


It's a year to get a green card. The green card can be revoked and you can get deported if you commit a crime and the judge is having a bad day. The green card, if you don't know what that is, is basically a visa with no expiration date. You're not a citizen if you have one, you just get to "visit" here forever or until you are deported or extradited.

Actually becoming a citizen looks like this:

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1500
01/18/18 12:57:53 AM
#203:


legendary_zell posted...

He didn't do anything other than stay in his country. He was brought here as a minor and this place is home to him. Are you suggesting that he should have voluntarily left to go to a country he had no relationship with? I'm an immigrant and I had to wait a while to be legalized too, nothing about that experience leads me to believe that makes sense. This guy being kicked out is a slap in the face for justice and fairness. I'm not trying to invalidate your experience or tell you that you don't have the right to feel angry with people who voluntarily jump the line while you had to wait. But this guy didn't do that.

Moreover, you keep repeating that it's the law that this guy had to be deported like that's the be all end all. The law itself is corrupt as it has been throughout American history. A rule being on the books does not mean its worth the paper it's printed on. It can still be unjust and worthy of being disregarded in certain circumstances. Using the law as a reason why you MUST take certain unjust actions is a dark dark pathway as has been proven over and over.


dude, he was given a deportation order years ago. SO he knew for a while he was going to be deported.

yeah, it's not his fault he entered illegally(it's his parents or whoever brought him here illegally) but it's NOT a mitigating circumstance for him to stay in this country. HE'S STILL HER ILLEGALLY and the govt. decided to deport him.

it's the law. If you don't intend to respect the law, then society would be in chaos
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