Current Events > 39 year old Father is being deported after living in United States for 30 years.

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With two immigration agents hovering nearby, Jorge Garcia pulled his family close for one final hug near security gates at Detroit Metropolitan Airport. His wife and 15-year-old daughter sobbed in his arms. His 12-year-old son stood stoically. Garcia was silent.

Soon after, the 39-year-old landscaper from Lincoln Park, Mich., boarded a plane bound for Mexico, deported to his home country on Monday after three decades in the United States.

Garcia was brought to the country with an undocumented relative when he was 10 years old, according to the Detroit Free Press. He had faced a removal order from immigration courts since 2009, but his deportation was stayed during the Obama administration as his family looked for ways to get him legal status. Under President Trump, that was no longer an option.

This isn't justice this is disgusting. Hopefully after thirty years this man has somewhere to go after being dumped on the border.
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yeah but hes an illegal!
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this is actually a good thing. we've made america greater by getting rid of him, so now his kids will grow up in an even better country!

What the fuck?
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FrenchCrunch posted...

this is actually a good thing. we've made america greater by getting rid of him, so now his kids will grow up in an even better country!

By getting rid of a man who has never committed so much as a traffic violation, who pays his taxes every year? Get real.
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Why couldn't be find a legal means to stay if he had been looking for 9 years?
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So he had 30 years to become a legal citizen?
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Absent fathers have never contributed to criminality in the youth of America. This is clearly in our best interest. Those children are obviously better off.
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thanks for protecting us from these scurrry scurrry aliens!
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The Admiral posted...

Why couldn't be find a legal means to stay if he had been looking for 9 years?

HypnoCoosh posted...

So he had 30 years to become a legal citizen?

lol jesus
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You don't get a pass on breaking the law just because you've been breaking it a long time. If the guy is 39 then he had twenty one years as a legal adult to get his immigration status in order.

Go home, illegals.
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Balrog0 posted...

lol jesus

Laws are laws.

30 years man.
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don't enter the country illegally, don't get deported
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The Admiral posted...

Why couldn't be find a legal means to stay if he had been looking for 9 years?

It outlines quite well why in the article. Even if he hadn't tried, do you feel that dumping this man in Mexico after 30 years is the justice that should be served?
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r4X0r posted...

You don't get a pass on breaking the law just because you've been breaking it a long time. If the guy is 39 then he had twenty one years as a legal adult to get his immigration status in order.

Go home, illegals.

Then why did we send him out of his home?
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iClockwork posted...

The Admiral posted...

Why couldn't be find a legal means to stay if he had been looking for 9 years?

It outlines quite well why in the article. Even if he hadn't tried, do you feel that dumping this man in Mexico after 30 years is the justice that should be served?

It doesn't explain it at all. His wife is US citizen on top of that, so I don't see why he couldn't get legal entry through her.
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The Admiral posted...

It doesn't explain it at all. His wife is US citizen on top of that, so I don't see why he couldn't get legal entry through her.

It does explain why his path to citizenship was obstructed. Even if he hadn't tried, do you feel that dumping this man in Mexico after 30 years is the justice that should be served in this case?
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HypnoCoosh posted...

Balrog0 posted...

lol jesus

Laws are laws.

30 years man.

do you think we should give preference to people who come here as minors? he was too old to qualify for DACA and feared immediate deportation which is super likely

I mean Obama was decried as the deporter in chief, which a lot of people forget...
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iClockwork posted...

It does explain why his path to citizenship was obstructed. Even if he hadn't tried, do you feel that dumping this man in Mexico after 30 years is the justice that should be served in this case?

No.

The process needs to be fixed.

But the law is the law.
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The Admiral posted...

It doesn't explain it at all. His wife is US citizen on top of that, so I don't see why he couldn't get legal entry through her.

Garcia and his wife, an American citizen and retired autoworker, met in Detroit and got married 15 years ago. When they tried to get him legal status in 2005, they wound up in deportation proceedings, she told ABC News. She added that he checked in regularly with ICE officials, never traveling outside their town without permission. He appears to have no criminal record in the United States.

Garcia received multiple stays of removal during President Barack Obamas two terms but was too old to qualify for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, the policy created by the Obama administration to protect children of undocumented immigrants from deportation. Immigrants who were 31 or younger as of June 15, 2012, can qualify for DACA status.

Another Obama-era program, Deferred Action for Parents of Americans, sought to protect undocumented adult immigrants like Garcia with children who were American citizens or lawful permanent residents. The policy was blocked by federal courts.

In November, after his last check-in, immigration agents told Garcia that he would have to leave the country, according to local media. The Garcias said they asked ICE if they could hold off on deporting him to see if Congress and the White House work out a deal to pass DACA legislation. Garcia could remain through the holidays, immigration agents reportedly told him, but he had to return to Mexico by Jan. 15.
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To be honest, he's an American. Should've let him stay.
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HypnoCoosh posted...

iClockwork posted...

It does explain why his path to citizenship was obstructed. Even if he hadn't tried, do you feel that dumping this man in Mexico after 30 years is the justice that should be served in this case?

No.

The process needs to be fixed.

But the law is the law.

Why don't you ever support changes to the law, then. You always seem to oppose them.
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Justice is blind

Unless you have a really sad story :(
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Should've let him stay.

Under what law?

They are following the laws.

Congress needs to get the fuck off their ass and fix this shit.
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Something is missing from this story. According to the article, they started to process of trying to get legalization about 13 years ago, but he only faced a removal order about 9 years ago. He also would have normally been granted citizenship through marriage with his wife.
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Spooking posted...

I know, it's terrible. His parents really did him a disservice by setting him up to fail. They knew about the immigration laws in the US, didn't they?

So he and his family should be punished? Was he suppose to immediately, as an 18 year old, went back to Mexico with no family there?
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s0nicfan posted...

Something is missing from this story. According to the article, they started to process of trying to get legalization about 13 years ago, but he only faced a removal order about 9 years ago. He also would have normally been granted citizenship through marriage with his wife.

Whether the immigrant can "adjust status" -- that is, apply for a green card without leaving the United States -- depends on whether he or she fits into one of a few narrow exceptions. The immigrant can adjust status only if he or she either:

legally entered the U.S. with a visa or after inspection by an immigration officer (and wasn't just using the visa with the intention of applying for a green card based on marriage, which happens to be visa fraud) and is either marrying a U.S. citizen or still on a valid visa, or
had a visa petition or labor certification filed for him or her several years ago when a law called "245(i)" was still in force.

If, however, the immigrant entered the United States by unlawful means, such as having been a stowaway or crossing over the border through a fence, adjustment of status is not an option. The only possibility is to apply for the green card through "consular processing," meaning the immigrant will attend an interview at a U.S. embassy or consulate in his or her home country. That, however, carries a risk of not being allowed back into the U.S. for many years -- three years if the period of unlawful presence was 180 days or more, and ten years if the period of unlawful stay was one year or more.
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iClockwork posted...

Spooking posted...

I know, it's terrible. His parents really did him a disservice by setting him up to fail. They knew about the immigration laws in the US, didn't they?

So he and his family should be punished? Was he suppose to immediately, as an 18 year old, went back to Mexico with no family there?

What concept of law and order don't you get?

Don't like?

Tell congress to get off their asses and do something besides play "career politician" all day
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ThePrinceFish posted...

Justice is blind

Unless you have a really sad story :(

no, it's fine to say that this is the justice the law requires

it isn't really okay to pretend the law is giving reasonable alternatives to these people and then say justice has been done, though, which is how I interpret the credulous "wow he reallyt couldnt get citizenship in 10 year?!?!" comments..
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America should let people get away with breaking the law if theyve been doing it for long enough.
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ey. he enjoyed 30 years of American life for free as an illegal. that's more fulfilling than most illegals can enjoy. he has no reason to complain or whine. i hope he can start a new family in mexico.

adios amigo
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I don't understand the concept of giving illegals a free pass if they've been here longer. If anything, they owe Americans more. He should be thrown in prison, but instead he'll just get deported and then sneak back across the border a week later.
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BlackHorse6969 posted...

ey. he enjoyed 30 years of American life for free as an illegal. that's more fulfilling than most illegals can enjoy. he has no reason to complain or whine. i hope he can start a new family in mexico.

adios amigo

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BlackHorse6969 posted...

ey. he enjoyed 30 years of American life for free as an illegal. that's more fulfilling than most illegals can enjoy. he has no reason to complain or whine. i hope he can start a new family in mexico.

adios amigo

I dont understand why his family didnt go with him. Some wife, son and daughter they turned out to be.
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Balrog0 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Something is missing from this story. According to the article, they started to process of trying to get legalization about 13 years ago, but he only faced a removal order about 9 years ago. He also would have normally been granted citizenship through marriage with his wife.

Whether the immigrant can "adjust status" -- that is, apply for a green card without leaving the United States -- depends on whether he or she fits into one of a few narrow exceptions. The immigrant can adjust status only if he or she either:

legally entered the U.S. with a visa or after inspection by an immigration officer (and wasn't just using the visa with the intention of applying for a green card based on marriage, which happens to be visa fraud) and is either marrying a U.S. citizen or still on a valid visa, or
had a visa petition or labor certification filed for him or her several years ago when a law called "245(i)" was still in force.

If, however, the immigrant entered the United States by unlawful means, such as having been a stowaway or crossing over the border through a fence, adjustment of status is not an option. The only possibility is to apply for the green card through "consular processing," meaning the immigrant will attend an interview at a U.S. embassy or consulate in his or her home country. That, however, carries a risk of not being allowed back into the U.S. for many years -- three years if the period of unlawful presence was 180 days or more, and ten years if the period of unlawful stay was one year or more.

If he's been checking in with ICE for 13 years, and was a qualified candidate for deferment under Obama, it's strange that this wasn't presented as an option. That also doesn't explain why ICE was fine with him for 4 years and then suddenly they hit him with a removal order during Obama's Tenure.
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s0nicfan posted...

Balrog0 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Something is missing from this story. According to the article, they started to process of trying to get legalization about 13 years ago, but he only faced a removal order about 9 years ago. He also would have normally been granted citizenship through marriage with his wife.

Whether the immigrant can "adjust status" -- that is, apply for a green card without leaving the United States -- depends on whether he or she fits into one of a few narrow exceptions. The immigrant can adjust status only if he or she either:

legally entered the U.S. with a visa or after inspection by an immigration officer (and wasn't just using the visa with the intention of applying for a green card based on marriage, which happens to be visa fraud) and is either marrying a U.S. citizen or still on a valid visa, or
had a visa petition or labor certification filed for him or her several years ago when a law called "245(i)" was still in force.

If, however, the immigrant entered the United States by unlawful means, such as having been a stowaway or crossing over the border through a fence, adjustment of status is not an option. The only possibility is to apply for the green card through "consular processing," meaning the immigrant will attend an interview at a U.S. embassy or consulate in his or her home country. That, however, carries a risk of not being allowed back into the U.S. for many years -- three years if the period of unlawful presence was 180 days or more, and ten years if the period of unlawful stay was one year or more.

If he's been checking in with ICE for 13 years, and was a qualified candidate for deferment under Obama, it's strange that this wasn't presented as an option. That also doesn't explain why ICE was fine with him for 4 years and then suddenly they hit him with a removal order during Obama's Tenure.

he probably didnt want to leave and risk not coming back for 10 years is all
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iClockwork posted...

The Admiral posted...

Why couldn't be find a legal means to stay if he had been looking for 9 years?

It outlines quite well why in the article. Even if he hadn't tried, do you feel that dumping this man in Mexico after 30 years is the justice that should be served?

In this particular case, probably not. But this is an outlier and is being highlighted for that reason, so I don't consider it an issue with the policy at large.
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So.. send a man who essentially isn't really Mexican, and knows nothing about the society and has no means to support himself... to Mexico, after he's spent 30 years in the country and had the run around when trying to get citizenship?

Merica.
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The Admiral posted...

In this particular case, probably not. But this is an outlier and is being highlighted for that reason, so I don't consider it an issue with the policy at large.

please, prove this with numbers or reputable articles
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Balrog0 posted...

please, prove this with numbers or reputable articles

You prove it since you obviously feel indifferent.

Law and order.

Don't like get pissed at congress.
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Balrog0 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Balrog0 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Something is missing from this story. According to the article, they started to process of trying to get legalization about 13 years ago, but he only faced a removal order about 9 years ago. He also would have normally been granted citizenship through marriage with his wife.

Whether the immigrant can "adjust status" -- that is, apply for a green card without leaving the United States -- depends on whether he or she fits into one of a few narrow exceptions. The immigrant can adjust status only if he or she either:

legally entered the U.S. with a visa or after inspection by an immigration officer (and wasn't just using the visa with the intention of applying for a green card based on marriage, which happens to be visa fraud) and is either marrying a U.S. citizen or still on a valid visa, or
had a visa petition or labor certification filed for him or her several years ago when a law called "245(i)" was still in force.

If, however, the immigrant entered the United States by unlawful means, such as having been a stowaway or crossing over the border through a fence, adjustment of status is not an option. The only possibility is to apply for the green card through "consular processing," meaning the immigrant will attend an interview at a U.S. embassy or consulate in his or her home country. That, however, carries a risk of not being allowed back into the U.S. for many years -- three years if the period of unlawful presence was 180 days or more, and ten years if the period of unlawful stay was one year or more.

If he's been checking in with ICE for 13 years, and was a qualified candidate for deferment under Obama, it's strange that this wasn't presented as an option. That also doesn't explain why ICE was fine with him for 4 years and then suddenly they hit him with a removal order during Obama's Tenure.

he probably didnt want to leave and risk not coming back for 10 years is all

Given the lack of other options, and the end result, it sounds like that was a poor choice on his part.
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HypnoCoosh posted...

You prove it since you obviously feel indifferent.

prove what? that what he said isn't true? there's a range of possible alternatives, how about the person making the claim do the work

HypnoCoosh posted...

Law and order.

Don't like get pissed at congress.

seems like deflection since you have no reason to think I havent?
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s0nicfan posted...

Given the lack of other options, and the end result, it sounds like that was a poor choice on his part.

guess he and his family deserve the consequences then, huh?
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Balrog0 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Given the lack of other options, and the end result, it sounds like that was a poor choice on his part.

guess he and his family deserve the consequences then, huh?

According to the laws of our country, they sure do.
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Funkydog posted...

So.. send a man who essentially isn't really Mexican, and knows nothing about the society and has no means to support himself... to Mexico, after he's spent 30 years in the country and had the run around when trying to get citizenship?

Merica.

No means to support himself? What does he do now and why can't he do that in Mexico?

Enforcing the law on people who break it. Merica.
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Balrog0 posted...

seems like deflection since you have no reason to think I havent?

If he didn't get legal status in 30 years bro it ain't no one else fault but his own.

If it is another problem identify it so it can be investigated.
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ThePrinceFish posted...

According to the laws of our country, they sure do.

Yep.

So I'm glad your morals end there! There's never been an unjust law or policy promulgated by our federal government ever!

cue bitching about socialized medicine or whatever
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Balrog0 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Given the lack of other options, and the end result, it sounds like that was a poor choice on his part.

guess he and his family deserve the consequences then, huh?

If he had a channel to seek legal status over 9 years and chose to not act on it in the hopes that he would be granted amnesty through legal changes? A little bit, yea. It's entirely possible ICE didn't tell him what his options are, in which case he doesn't really deserve what's happening, but assuming they did, he gambled and lost.
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