Poll of the Day > Trump derides protections for immigrants from 'shithole' countries.

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I'm confused. Are they going to laze about like parasites before or after they steal our jobs?
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Mead posted...

How about you provide an actual source for your claims instead of just insisting that it is true

France's no-go zones.

Mead posted...

The amount of historical ignorance in this view is staggering. Everything that makes America great was built on the backs of workers coming from other countries to make something better than what they were born into

If youre gonna try and say who should and should not be able to come to this country you should probably study the history of it a bit

It wasn't a boat from Africa that colonised America in the first place. The ones who did come came from a successful background and got shit done in a time when you couldn't choose to not contribute.

People with skills made America, not people with detrimental cultures that ruined their own countries in the first place.
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Qwert379 posted...

Mead posted...

Qwert379 posted...

Gonna get hated for saying this

I see his point, getting immigrants that can contribute to the economy is far better than taking in immigrants who are just going to drain money out of the country

1-2 geniuses from Norway is far better than 200,000 immigrants that can't even read or speak english that are just going to be a burden

The amount of historical ignorance in this view is staggering. Everything that makes America great was built on the backs of workers coming from other countries to make something better than what they were born into

If youre gonna try and say who should and should not be able to come to this country you should probably study the history of it a bit

When you have hundreds of thousands of refugees who will not make any effort to improve themselves and remain content on living on donations while breeding like rabbits you will change your tune

People who came to the USA all those years ago had the will to make something of themselves not laze around and parasite off others

Ill make sure I screenshot this and send it to the interpreter I had in Iraq who immigrated here to America and contributes/pays his taxes.
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I guess what you're really arguing is whether you can make predictions from examining the behavior of a large population of people.

Personally, I think there are outliers but averages are averages. But I guess the change in environment is also something to consider.

Cacciato posted...

Ill make sure I screenshot this and send it to the interpreter I had in Iraq who immigrated here to America and contributes/pays his taxes.

Are you seriously calling the interpreter an unskilled refugee? What a fucking racist.
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We seem to be perpetually locked into a pattern of Republican Presidents fucking shit up royally, and the following Democratic President having to spend all his time to un-fuck everything.

It's impossible to calculate how much damage Dump and the GOP has already done to the US.

You know how armchair historians like to be smug and say America will fall like Rome, since all empires must fall? This is what it looks like: eating yourself from the inside out.
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...

We seem to be perpetually locked into a pattern of Republican Presidents fucking shit up royally, and the following Democratic President having to spend all his time to un-fuck everything.

Because Democrats don't fuck things up too.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

We seem to be perpetually locked into a pattern of Republican Presidents fucking shit up royally, and the following Democratic President having to spend all his time to un-fuck everything.

Because Democrats don't fuck things up too.

To levels where it's worth mentioning in comparisons to GOP fuck-ups?

No, not remotely.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Cacciato posted...

Ill make sure I screenshot this and send it to the interpreter I had in Iraq who immigrated here to America and contributes/pays his taxes.

Are you seriously calling the interpreter an unskilled refugee? What a fucking racist.

I know youre not the smartest, especially when your usual argumentative approach is to google a response and still fuck it up somehow, but try to keep quiet on shit you dont understand.
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Kyuubi is actually a bot designed to motivate new users to find and figure out how to use the ignore function
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Mead posted...

Kyuubi is actually a bot designed to motivate new users to find and figure out how to use the ignore function

I like Kyuubi. Like I said in my other post, he googles the point hes trying to make and posts the first link without checking it and just looks stupid.

His only good contribution was posting hospital photos from a building overlooking the Thames.
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Cacciato posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Cacciato posted...

Ill make sure I screenshot this and send it to the interpreter I had in Iraq who immigrated here to America and contributes/pays his taxes.

Are you seriously calling the interpreter an unskilled refugee? What a fucking racist.

I know youre not the smartest, especially when your usual argumentative approach is to google a response and still fuck it up somehow, but try to keep quiet on shit you dont understand.

You're the one arguing that a bilingual Iraqi interpreter who worked with the military is remotely close to refugees who have demonstratably annexed off parts of 1st world countries to make Syria 2.0.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Mead posted...

How about you provide an actual source for your claims instead of just insisting that it is true

France's no-go zones.

Mead posted...

The amount of historical ignorance in this view is staggering. Everything that makes America great was built on the backs of workers coming from other countries to make something better than what they were born into

If youre gonna try and say who should and should not be able to come to this country you should probably study the history of it a bit

It wasn't a boat from Africa that colonised America in the first place. The ones who did come came from a successful background and got shit done in a time when you couldn't choose to not contribute.

People with skills made America, not people with detrimental cultures that ruined their own countries in the first place.

Does that include the black slaves from African countries that most of them brought with them? Oh that's right, they don't count.

Guys it's okay, Trump didn't actually say it, he confirmed in a tweet, phew.

GastroFan posted...

Does that include the black slaves from African countries that most of them brought with them? Oh that's right, they don't count.

A) They didn't come by choice.
B) Due to lack of choice they were productive.
C) When freedom was gained, inherently they had been blended in to the surrounding culture, not aggressively cling on to incompatible traditions, and;
D) Nobody was allowed to fuck around then, people trying to control areas and turn it to shit would either be shut down or disconnected from the world and die.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Due to lack of choice they were productive.
C) When freedom was gained, inherently they had been blended in to the surrounding culture

Lmao inherently? Their culture was stripped from them, and a new one was forced onto them.
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those people were captured and sold into slavery, white people just didn't go sailing around scooping up africans' like 90% of people beleive
american natives yeah, but the africans were suppllied by the mali tribe
and whatever the adult africans did the irish and the germans had to do too or else their asses would get sent back!

like others said it was either work or die
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RoboXgp89 posted...

american natives yeah, but the africans were suppllied by the mali tribe

The millions of Africans impacted by the transatlantic slave trade were not supplied by one fucking tribe.
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RCtheWSBC posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Due to lack of choice they were productive.
C) When freedom was gained, inherently they had been blended in to the surrounding culture

Lmao inherently? Their culture was stripped from them, and a new one was forced onto them.

Stripped from them by not being exposed to the other culture i.e. A natural, inherent, consequence of their family being taken as slaves.
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No, more like stripped from them as in "if you continue to practice those aspects of your culture on our land we'll punish you." And then forcing them to convert to Christianity.
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Nazi rallies contain very fine people but make sure we don't have to deal with immigrants from brown countries
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RCtheWSBC posted...

No, more like stripped from them as in "if you continue to practice those aspects of your culture on our land we'll punish you." And then forcing them to convert to Christianity.

Ya, because they were fuckin' slaves, not free people, they are going to be made to mesh to the culture of their owner(s). That is inherent to slavery (at least by competent slave holders).

And not to be a dick, but you can't make somebody believe in a God. You can force them to follow practices or recite the Bible, but you can't forcibly change people's mind against their will.

You're also acting like it's odd for people in a foreign land, even free ones, to be expected to practice the culture of the land to at least some extent. That's how people successfully cohabit in society, not become a rebel horde like in Europe.
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https://www.npr.org/2018/01/12/577598401/in-morning-tweet-trump-denies-calling-african-countries-by-a-vulgar-slur

Updated 10:19 a.m. ET

President Trump is denying reports, from NPR and other news outlets, that in a Thursday meeting at the White House, he disparaged African nations as "shithole countries" and questioned why the United States would admit immigrants from them and other nations, like Haiti.

Trump told lawmakers that the U.S. should instead seek out more immigrants from countries like Norway.

A White House statement issued Thursday notably did not deny that Trump used the vulgarity to refer to African countries, but on Friday morning, Trump shifted gears.

"This was not the language used," Trump said in a tweet.

The language used by me at the DACA meeting was tough, but this was not the language used. What was really tough was the outlandish proposal made - a big setback for DACA!
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 12, 2018

Trump then denied he said "anything derogatory" about Haitians or Haiti except that it's a "very poor and troubled country."

Never said anything derogatory about Haitians other than Haiti is, obviously, a very poor and troubled country. Never said take them out. Made up by Dems. I have a wonderful relationship with Haitians. Probably should record future meetings - unfortunately, no trust!
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 12, 2018

But, in addition to the reports from multiple news outlets about the language used by the president, Illinois Democrat Dick Durbin confirmed the president's remarks.

"The president erupted several times with questions, and in the course of his comments, said things which were hate-filled, vile and racist," the senator told reporters. "I use those words advisably. I understand how powerful they are. But I cannot believe that in the history of the White House and in that Oval Office, any president has ever spoken the words that I personally heard our president speak yesterday.

"You've seen the comments in the press. I've not read one of them that's inaccurate."

Sen. Durbin on Trump comments. Was in the room. Calls racist language heartbreaking. @cbschicago pic.twitter.com/lKM5QDPr5r
Mike Puccinelli (@MPuccinelliCBS2) January 12, 2018

Trump criticized the tentative bipartisan agreement drafted by Durbin, Arizona Republican Jeff Flake and four other senators.

Trump blasted the proposal as "a big step backwards" and said it didn't provide enough funding for a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, a key campaign promise Trump made in 2016.

Earlier in the week, Trump had assured lawmakers that he would accept any agreement crafted by Congress.

"I will be signing," he said in a Cabinet Room meeting Tuesday. "I'm not going to say, 'Oh, gee, I want this or that.' I'll be signing it."

In the wake of Trump's comments, attention has shifted away from the contents of a proposed DACA deal to a statement many view as racist.

"President Trump's comments are racist and a disgrace," said Maryland Rep. Steny Hoyer, the second-ranking Democrat in the House. "They do not reflect our nation's values."

Democratic Rep. Cedric Richmond of Louisiana, who chairs the Congressional Black Caucus, said the latest statement is "yet another confirmation of [Trump's] racially insensitive and ignorant views."

He added, "[The] president's slogan 'Make America Great Again' is really code for 'Make America White Again.' "

Many Republicans also criticized Trump.

Utah Republican Rep. Mia Love, whose family descended from Haiti, called the president's comments "unkind, divisive [and] elitist."

They "fly in the face of our nation's values," Love added. "This behavior is unacceptable from the leader of our nation."

Fellow Utahan, Sen. Orrin Hatch, a staunch Trump ally, said: "I look forward to getting a more detailed explanation regarding the president's comments. Part of what makes America so special is that we welcome the best and brightest in the world, regardless of their country of origin."

MannerSaurus posted...

Sigh. I didn't want that corrupt fascist evil bitch Hillary as president, but this isn't any better. This was literally the worst election. It was like asking which leg I wanted chainsawed off. Is this really the best this country has to offer? Can we please start over with two new candidates?

Thats the problem. There really arent any that people can agree on. People dont trust the two main parties, they dont trust third party candidates.
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TyVulpine posted...

MannerSaurus posted...

Sigh. I didn't want that corrupt fascist evil bitch Hillary as president, but this isn't any better. This was literally the worst election. It was like asking which leg I wanted chainsawed off. Is this really the best this country has to offer? Can we please start over with two new candidates?

Thats the problem. There really arent any that people can agree on. People dont trust the two main parties, they dont trust third party candidates.

Most Democrats and Republicans trust their party - hence why they call themselves a Republican or a Democrat.

If they call themselves a Republican or a Democrat and dont trust their party, theyre likely leaning more to the other political affiliations like Independent or Green and but arent confident enough in the party or the respective politicians to make the jump to the group. This usually happens when both parties (Republican and Democrat) have shit candidates for the election and opens eyes to the scenario that as we, as a society and country, evolve and grow, that were not just black and white anymore, but varying shades of grey, hence the need for multiple political parties with their own respective politicians that arent just black or white.

ok.
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Qwert379 posted...

Mead posted...

Qwert379 posted...

Gonna get hated for saying this

I see his point, getting immigrants that can contribute to the economy is far better than taking in immigrants who are just going to drain money out of the country

1-2 geniuses from Norway is far better than 200,000 immigrants that can't even read or speak english that are just going to be a burden

The amount of historical ignorance in this view is staggering. Everything that makes America great was built on the backs of workers coming from other countries to make something better than what they were born into

If youre gonna try and say who should and should not be able to come to this country you should probably study the history of it a bit

When you have hundreds of thousands of refugees who will not make any effort to improve themselves and remain content on living on donations while breeding like rabbits you will change your tune

People who came to the USA all those years ago had the will to make something of themselves not laze around and parasite off others

Are you...are you dumb?
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